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Brave women, but not sisters

2005-08-24
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I found this gem in The Economist while waiting in a doctor’s office.
http://economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4221398

“There is a lot in Poland for an American feminist to get cross about. But Ms Penn struggles, and mostly fails, to make the imaginative leap necessary to see that her subjects’ preoccupations were different. Joanna Szczesna, a magnificent activist to whom Ms Penn devotes considerable space, has complained about the author’s dismay that the women did not gain their share of the political fruits of victory: “It happened that once in my life I put out lots of fires, but it was not because of gender discrimination that I didn’t become a fireperson. I didn’t become one because I didn’t want to be one.””

“However, the greatest problem is that although Ms Penn realises she is talking a different language, she cannot adapt. She writes plaintively that her subjects “had very different understandings of ‘internationalism’, ‘leftist politics’, ‘feminism’ and ‘collaboration’. For many of them, these words held immediate, negative associations with Communism, and when I used them they made people wince or fume…my choice of language sometimes made me appear either highly suspect or incredibly naive.” Quite so.”

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  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4638843 Bill C

    Coming soon, a picture of my wife in her ‘I should be in the kitchen’ tshirt.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4638843 Bill C

    Coming soon, a picture of my wife in her ‘I should be in the kitchen’ tshirt.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/5175957 Denis

    Pete, the “she’s oppressed by the patriarchy and doesn’t even know it” line (still!) only works with Western woman. Eastern European women are too smart to fall for that bullshit line.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/5175957 Denis

    Pete, the “she’s oppressed by the patriarchy and doesn’t even know it” line (still!) only works with Western woman. Eastern European women are too smart to fall for that bullshit line.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/2823051 Pete

    Joanna Szczesna’s attitude is similar to western women who wish to devote their lives to the home and children and yes husbands. The reaction of “puzzlement” and dismay on the part of Ms Penn is similar, although milder, to the feminists’ attitude towards these same western women. I’m surprised Pen didn’t start spewing the “she’s oppressed by the patriarchy and doesn’t even know it” line.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/2823051 Pete

    Joanna Szczesna’s attitude is similar to western women who wish to devote their lives to the home and children and yes husbands. The reaction of “puzzlement” and dismay on the part of Ms Penn is similar, although milder, to the feminists’ attitude towards these same western women. I’m surprised Pen didn’t start spewing the “she’s oppressed by the patriarchy and doesn’t even know it” line.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4638843 Bill C
  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4638843 Bill C
  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/1787606 PolishKnight

    Surprisingly, many gender feminists wind up with submissive men (there’s no shortage of such men, yes?) It’s the naive and easily led normal women who may not even think the feminist label applies to them who are the modern victims of these policies along with normal men who blindly played by all the rules who wind up getting nailed by the family courts.

    Basically, gentlemen, we’re all in the war but at least we know the bullets are flying.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/1787606 PolishKnight

    Surprisingly, many gender feminists wind up with submissive men (there’s no shortage of such men, yes?) It’s the naive and easily led normal women who may not even think the feminist label applies to them who are the modern victims of these policies along with normal men who blindly played by all the rules who wind up getting nailed by the family courts.

    Basically, gentlemen, we’re all in the war but at least we know the bullets are flying.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4638843 Bill C

    “She writes plaintively that her subjects “had very different understandings of ‘internationalism’, ‘leftist politics’, ‘feminism’ and ‘collaboration’. For many of them, these words held immediate, negative associations with Communism…”

    This is precisely why women from Eastern Europe and the Former Soviet Union make much better wives than their western ‘sisters’. Feminists try and cram the world into their mold and keep finding it does not fit. Being a bitter gender warrior is a sure path to a lonely existence. (This goes for men, also.)

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/4638843 Bill C

    “She writes plaintively that her subjects “had very different understandings of ‘internationalism’, ‘leftist politics’, ‘feminism’ and ‘collaboration’. For many of them, these words held immediate, negative associations with Communism…”

    This is precisely why women from Eastern Europe and the Former Soviet Union make much better wives than their western ‘sisters’. Feminists try and cram the world into their mold and keep finding it does not fit. Being a bitter gender warrior is a sure path to a lonely existence. (This goes for men, also.)

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/5771057 Baron Waste

    Almost certainly her Women’s Studies indoctrination cadre should have sent someone else. The reviewer does not mention if Miss Penn even speaks Polish; it would not surprise me to learn that she does not, but did not let that stop her from “analyzing” a situation she literally cannot comprehend.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/5771057 Baron Waste

    Almost certainly her Women’s Studies indoctrination cadre should have sent someone else. The reviewer does not mention if Miss Penn even speaks Polish; it would not surprise me to learn that she does not, but did not let that stop her from “analyzing” a situation she literally cannot comprehend.







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