Comments on: “Misplaced sympathies” on evolution http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/ Men's Rights Activism, MRA Politics, Analysis, Commentary and Global News Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:36:48 -1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: BlogWonks » Logic and evolution http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-11754 BlogWonks » Logic and evolution Fri, 05 May 2006 21:56:40 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/#comment-11754 [...] In my most recent post on evolution, it’s interesting to look at the logic used in the comments: [...] [...] In my most recent post on evolution, it’s interesting to look at the logic used in the comments: [...]

]]> By: wblackburn http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-11683 wblackburn Wed, 03 May 2006 14:15:49 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/#comment-11683 DrDamage, The Kevin Shapiro article was indicating that some people are believing illogically that if there is no need for something, then it doesn't exist. conservativation, If someone breaks your car window, and there is no evidence of who did it, then does that constitute evidence that no one did it? DrDamage,

The Kevin Shapiro article was indicating that some people are believing illogically that if there is no need for something, then it doesn’t exist.

conservativation,

If someone breaks your car window, and there is no evidence of who did it, then does that constitute evidence that no one did it?

]]> By: Hal http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-11676 Hal Wed, 03 May 2006 10:52:35 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/#comment-11676 What do you get when you send an idiot to college? An educated idiot. Therefore no unseen hand exists. What do you get when you send an idiot to college? An educated idiot. Therefore no unseen hand exists.

]]> By: DrDamage http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-11674 DrDamage Wed, 03 May 2006 08:58:30 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/#comment-11674 <blockquote><i>there’s no need for an unseen hand to guide the system, and therefore no unseen hand exists.</i></blockquote> I'm not entirely certain that follows. I'll accept the first part, but the second part seems to be just hanging out there without any visible means of support.

there’s no need for an unseen hand to guide the system, and therefore no unseen hand exists.

I’m not entirely certain that follows. I’ll accept the first part, but the second part seems to be just hanging out there without any visible means of support.

]]> By: conservativation http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-11664 conservativation Tue, 02 May 2006 21:57:29 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/#comment-11664 Thwe system cut off my comment about the above sentence. The words "it seems" can be said differently, like "I believe" which is really what the author is saying. But since the rest of his facts and alleged facts seems very learned, this thing that he "believes" becomes fact in a readers mind who is not careful. I've even seen it claimed that "x number of scholars and y numbers of pages written...therefore it must be true" Glad the author has his beliefs, he joins others who hold studied BELIEFS in the quest for truth. Thwe system cut off my comment about the above sentence. The words “it seems” can be said differently, like “I believe” which is really what the author is saying. But since the rest of his facts and alleged facts seems very learned, this thing that he “believes” becomes fact in a readers mind who is not careful. I’ve even seen it claimed that “x number of scholars and y numbers of pages written…therefore it must be true”

Glad the author has his beliefs, he joins others who hold studied BELIEFS in the quest for truth.

]]> By: conservativation http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-11663 conservativation Tue, 02 May 2006 21:54:31 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/#comment-11663 >>>>it seems that every gap in our current explanatory model has a Tiktaalik waiting to fill it, whether it comes from the Canadian tundra or a DNA microarray. >>>>it seems that every gap in our current explanatory model has a Tiktaalik waiting to fill it, whether it comes from the Canadian tundra or a DNA microarray.

]]> By: conservativation http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-11660 conservativation Tue, 02 May 2006 21:46:34 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/#comment-11660 The absence of evidence IS evidence of absence! To assert otherwise about this statement in the general is absurd. If you care to qualify the statement and make it in particular applicable to your beliefs, maybe it works. But as a stand alone proposition it holds true. And let's be honest, you have "A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion" which is a definition of religion. All the scientists have therefore a religion, not half of them. Two Questions: 1. Are there ANY assumptions, any at all, regardless how "big or small" that must be made to close gaps in evolution theory? 2. Is the "accepted" theory of evolution what you WANT to believe? In other words is there an emotional investment in the acceptance of it? Honestly you must answer yes to both questions. Many will try to say they have no axe to grind, but I've never seen so much proactive convincing from a scientist on other theories. I don't see researchers running about the press insisting they have the answer and really desiring public buy in. Welcome to the ranks of the religious! The absence of evidence IS evidence of absence! To assert otherwise about this statement in the general is absurd. If you care to qualify the statement and make it in particular applicable to your beliefs, maybe it works. But as a stand alone proposition it holds true.
And let’s be honest, you have “A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion” which is a definition of religion. All the scientists have therefore a religion, not half of them.
Two Questions:
1. Are there ANY assumptions, any at all, regardless how “big or small” that must be made to close gaps in evolution theory?
2. Is the “accepted” theory of evolution what you WANT to believe? In other words is there an emotional investment in the acceptance of it?

Honestly you must answer yes to both questions. Many will try to say they have no axe to grind, but I’ve never seen so much proactive convincing from a scientist on other theories. I don’t see researchers running about the press insisting they have the answer and really desiring public buy in.

Welcome to the ranks of the religious!

]]> By: BlogWonks » Karl Lembke http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-11652 BlogWonks » Karl Lembke Tue, 02 May 2006 16:07:49 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/05/02/misplaced-sympathies-on-evolution/#comment-11652 [...] “Misplaced sympathies” on evolution [...] [...] “Misplaced sympathies” on evolution [...]

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