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	<title>Comments on: Howard Dean: Karl Rove Lied About Committing Perjury!</title>
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		<title>By: Azrael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/sarcasm on

You guys are all missing the point. It&#039;s not *really* perjury if it&#039;s a Demoncrat doing it. You all ought to know they&#039;re so much better than all the common rabble and far above such petty things.

/sarcasm off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/sarcasm on</p>
<p>You guys are all missing the point. It&#8217;s not *really* perjury if it&#8217;s a Demoncrat doing it. You all ought to know they&#8217;re so much better than all the common rabble and far above such petty things.</p>
<p>/sarcasm off</p>
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		<title>By: dogged out pumas</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogged out pumas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 06:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember this is a &quot;moral victory&quot; for the democrats. And tomorrows NYT headline is:
&quot;Rove decision signals division for republicans, party now divided.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember this is a &#8220;moral victory&#8221; for the democrats. And tomorrows NYT headline is:<br />
&#8220;Rove decision signals division for republicans, party now divided.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Will Malven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Malven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amosbatta,

most people KNOW that Karl Rove was not guilty of &quot;trying to discredit Joe Wilson by illegally giving classified information to the press about his wife.&quot;

He did not even know her name.  The fact that she worked for the CIA was known to virtually everyone inside the Beltway.  She drove her personal vehicle into the CIA complex everyday.

She was no more covert than Joe Wilson was.

Wilson is the original source of the leak, not Rove, not Libby, not Armitage, but Joe Wilson.  Try doing some research and you will discover that.

Whoops I forgot I was talking to a Liberal...myth=reality, opinion=fact.  Nevermind just go back to your tin-hat brigade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amosbatta,</p>
<p>most people KNOW that Karl Rove was not guilty of &#8220;trying to discredit Joe Wilson by illegally giving classified information to the press about his wife.&#8221;</p>
<p>He did not even know her name.  The fact that she worked for the CIA was known to virtually everyone inside the Beltway.  She drove her personal vehicle into the CIA complex everyday.</p>
<p>She was no more covert than Joe Wilson was.</p>
<p>Wilson is the original source of the leak, not Rove, not Libby, not Armitage, but Joe Wilson.  Try doing some research and you will discover that.</p>
<p>Whoops I forgot I was talking to a Liberal&#8230;myth=reality, opinion=fact.  Nevermind just go back to your tin-hat brigade.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lillpop</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lillpop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amosbatto --but I personally see Roveâ€™s behavior as much worse than Clintonâ€™s and I suspect that most Americans agree with me.&quot;

I do not believe most Americans feels that way.

Again, your president LIED under oath not just about whether or not he had sex with Monica, but to obstruct justice in a case brought by Paula Jones.

You may not like Paula Jones, but she is entitled to very constitutional protection afforded every citizen.  Her day in court was obstructured---justice denied---because your president lied under oath.

Any way you try to spin it, the facts are irrefutable: Bill Clinton obstructed justice by committing perjury!

How would you react if it was YOUR daughter who had been so treated?  By the chief law enforcement agent in the land?

BTW, the prosecuter does not agree with you, either. Or he would have nailed Rove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amosbatto &#8211;but I personally see Roveâ€™s behavior as much worse than Clintonâ€™s and I suspect that most Americans agree with me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do not believe most Americans feels that way.</p>
<p>Again, your president LIED under oath not just about whether or not he had sex with Monica, but to obstruct justice in a case brought by Paula Jones.</p>
<p>You may not like Paula Jones, but she is entitled to very constitutional protection afforded every citizen.  Her day in court was obstructured&#8212;justice denied&#8212;because your president lied under oath.</p>
<p>Any way you try to spin it, the facts are irrefutable: Bill Clinton obstructed justice by committing perjury!</p>
<p>How would you react if it was YOUR daughter who had been so treated?  By the chief law enforcement agent in the land?</p>
<p>BTW, the prosecuter does not agree with you, either. Or he would have nailed Rove.</p>
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		<title>By: amosbatto</title>
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		<dc:creator>amosbatto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that anyone questions that Rove was guilty of trying to discredit Joe Wilson by illegally giving classified information to the press about his wife, Valerie Plame and breaking her cover.  

Most Americans consider Clinton&#039;s lies about sex with Monica Lewinsky to be minor peccadillos that didn&#039;t deserve impeachment--they saw it as a largely private matter that was certainly dishonorable, but not an act of policy which hurt the American public.  On the other hand, most Americans don&#039;t consider the lieing about yellow-cake uranium from Niger to be a serious offense since it was used to justify the invasion of Iraq. Polls show that most Americans think that Bush should be impeached if he deliberately lied about weapons of mass destruction. All of this directly relates to the Rove case, since he was attempting to discredit Joe Wilson&#039;s revelations  that he had written reports showing that the documents about uranium from Niger were forgeries. So Wilson was showing that Bush was lieing about evidence of WMDs, and Rove wanted to discredit his story by saying that Wilson only got the assignment because of his wife&#039;s connections. 

It looks like Rove is going to get away with illegal leaks, but I personally see Rove&#039;s behavior as much worse than Clinton&#039;s and I suspect that most Americans agree with me.  Clinton wasn&#039;t trying to deceive Americans about a matter of public policy when he lied, whereas Rove was. If you want to justify it by saying that at least Rove was smart enough not to get caught, then I question your moral values.  Lies about sex are wrong, but it is far worse morally to lie to go to war and then breaking the law to discredit people who proved that you lied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that anyone questions that Rove was guilty of trying to discredit Joe Wilson by illegally giving classified information to the press about his wife, Valerie Plame and breaking her cover.  </p>
<p>Most Americans consider Clinton&#8217;s lies about sex with Monica Lewinsky to be minor peccadillos that didn&#8217;t deserve impeachment&#8211;they saw it as a largely private matter that was certainly dishonorable, but not an act of policy which hurt the American public.  On the other hand, most Americans don&#8217;t consider the lieing about yellow-cake uranium from Niger to be a serious offense since it was used to justify the invasion of Iraq. Polls show that most Americans think that Bush should be impeached if he deliberately lied about weapons of mass destruction. All of this directly relates to the Rove case, since he was attempting to discredit Joe Wilson&#8217;s revelations  that he had written reports showing that the documents about uranium from Niger were forgeries. So Wilson was showing that Bush was lieing about evidence of WMDs, and Rove wanted to discredit his story by saying that Wilson only got the assignment because of his wife&#8217;s connections. </p>
<p>It looks like Rove is going to get away with illegal leaks, but I personally see Rove&#8217;s behavior as much worse than Clinton&#8217;s and I suspect that most Americans agree with me.  Clinton wasn&#8217;t trying to deceive Americans about a matter of public policy when he lied, whereas Rove was. If you want to justify it by saying that at least Rove was smart enough not to get caught, then I question your moral values.  Lies about sex are wrong, but it is far worse morally to lie to go to war and then breaking the law to discredit people who proved that you lied.</p>
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