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June 28th, 2006 at 2:18 am
Meanwhile, over at legalreader.com Darren Mack posted his commentary on the More Bad Judges blog covering his fugitive status, posting from an I.P. address within Mexico. As reported on June 23, 2006, Darren wrote:
Here is the real numbers as was given to me in documents by Darren himself. Don´t let the fancy BS done by the attorneys fool you in the court motions. Remember most if not all has been falsely documented. I saw the real financial and bank records myself.
The order said¨.
44,000 income
15,000 income taxes that no-one remembered that had to be taken out. Remember income taxes?
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29,000 left after taxes
10,000 spousal support as per Weller´s order
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19,000 left after spousal support
14,000 all those items that were listed on the order by Weller but not put into dollars. Just the 2 morgages were 9,000 a month. I have seen the bank records.
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5000 left after paying all the bills ordered to be paid by Weller.
849 child support for one child
1000 child support to the previous wife for another child.
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3151 left after child support
6000 in interest paymts and other expences that Weller did not address in his order but had to be paid. Can´t tell the bank Weller said I don´t have to pay.
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-2849 left after bills that must be paid that Weller did not address.
15000 a month for attys fees to fund a war that he tried to settle many times rather than go BK.
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-17,849 left after attys fees. Remember Darren has yet to spend $1 on rent, food, gas, car, support one child full time that lived with him and one child that lived with him half time.
6000 a month for all the above. Darren had a minus cashflow of
$-23,849 per month
based on Judge Weller´s order. Live with that for 2 years!! and see if you need to file BK. Get a grip people.
So here it is in simple form. Weller a man making $44,000 a month to pay $61,849 before he got $1 to live on himself and to take care of his children when they lived with him. You make your own conclusion of fairness.
Remember criminals like Charla´s atty Shawn Meador and bought and paid for Judges can make anything look reasonable in court docs. The real test is how does it play out when you have to write the check and balance the checkbook. Don´t be fooled by the surface level BS. I have seen the bank records.
Posted by: mark at June 21, 2006 07:53 PM
And a few hours later he wrote:
That is just one order. The first financial order that was posted is just one of 20 or more things that were Nazi like against Darren. By the way anyone who understands the law would know that he couldn’t appeal until the entire case was finished including custody and the divorce decree issues. That is why those two things were stratigically put off by Shawn Meador into the future so as to keep Darren from any protection from another court. It is my understanding that he was in the middle of an emergency writ but those are very rarely issued.
They make up rules and they are the umpires so when they are crooked like in this case one has absolutely no chance at coming out without being robbed broke, put into BK, jailed, extorting the people around you, and then kidnapping your children. There is one place where one has no constitutional rights and that is in the 4 walls of the divorce court. It is just legalized organized crime.
It was not just with Darren but read fatherunite.org and you will see hundreds of stories of the crimes that divorce industry are inflicting on mostly men thoughtout this country. They are plain out crimes. Read them and weep for crimes being waged against mostly men in this country.
Posted by: Mark at June 22, 2006 11:11 AM
Now if you will look at the More Bad Judges blog itself, you will notice a distinct change in the tone of the comments posted after people had a look at these numbers. If a court order requires payments beyond what a man can reasonably make from his income, the courts, meaning judges and their clerks and bailiffs, fail to or refuse to do the math, ignoring detailed accountings of the budget, income, and expenses, presented by the man’s attorney, then we have a court order with which compliance is impossible.
DUH!!!!!!
Feel good psychobabble does nothing to FIX the BIGOTRY and FAILURE TO DO THE MATH on the part of family court judges who refuse to see the unreasonableness of their orders even when presented with well written pleadings presenting these numbers.
You say you were on Darren Mack’s team and you say he let us down. I say YOU let us down by failing to DEAL WITH THIS NUMBERS PROBLEM THAT AFFLICTS OUR FAMILY COURT SYSTEM!!!!
Therefore, it is no surprise that the math we are now doing is: 250 grains at 4,000 feet per second = severe chest pains!
June 28th, 2006 at 2:28 am
The overall tragedies of Mack’s broken family, homicide, attempted homicide, and custody notwithstanding…….
…….the first thought that crossed my mind upon reading Dean Tong’s title………….
…….was that if more young men read how poorly Mack fared in the jaws of America’s “justice” system, perhaps more of them will hesitate and reconsider marriage, depriving the divorce industry and money-grubbing women of additional cannon fodder.
Certainly many of those young men who dig into this case, and whose temerity pays off through their discovery that Mack had been ordered to pay $120,000 per year in vaginamony ought to.
$120,000 per year…. for past use of a vagina. I’m pretty sure that there are useful lessons to be learned concerning that point alone.
Of course the loss of life, the eventual loss of freedom of Mack, his separation from his daughter all dwarf the financial aspects involved.
But any man somewhat more intelligent than a block of granite ought to be able to draw his own conclusions about the sanity of marrying in America, when a woman can expect $120,000 per year for past use of her vagina.
June 28th, 2006 at 3:24 am
There’s a national debate going on whether
Americans can think mathematically on a par with
Indians, Chinese, Philippinos, etc., etc., but
judges are good enough.
The California senator whose bill established the
state’s guideline did the math and admitted that
the formula he was legislating could produce an
order for a child support amount exceeding 100% of
an obligor’s income, albeit under extreme
conditions. It was still good politics.
I don’t know for sure about Nevada, but most codes
allow some types of interlocutory appeals; however
no one can ever win on appeal on a point over
which a judge has _discretion_. Appeals consider
errors on the part of the lower court, but there’s
no way to `err’ in exercising discretion.
Yes, it is literally _legally_ true that in family
court one has very few due process or other
constitutional rights.
June 28th, 2006 at 4:53 am
All the while judges like Weller get fat and happy off Darren Mack, Mack is prevented from living a normal life. No wonder Mack struck back, especially when men come to know they’ll never have the means to bribe the legislators into passing the correct laws. To Charla Mack’s soul: if you lay down with dogs, you’ll get up with flees – don’t be so greedy in your next lifetime.
June 28th, 2006 at 5:05 am
Has it simply not occured to these idiot family court judges that if you prevent hardworking men from making a living legally, they probably aren’t going to be too happy about it.
For years and years the feminists have shoved their agenda down our throats one increment at a time. They did it by eliminating confrontations before they ever occured. But like with Mack, confrontations are inevitable with the Child Support Slavery laws. There is no room for a man to negotiate, because there is no such thing as being legally safe from the slavery. Men are learning the futility of trying to negotiate.
I predict one day that these family court judges will one day have to answer for their crimes. The greatest of these crimes these judges have committed is treason against the constitution. By knowingly forcing free men into slavery, they are willfully committing murder against every unborn child a slave dad might otherwise have if that dad were allowed to live free. It stands to reason that men like Mack desire vengence.
June 28th, 2006 at 7:47 am
Hello,
Just after reading a couple of lines, it was pretty clear the author wanted to build some name recognition for himself by revealing his ties with Darren Mack. YOu really knew him? WOW!
SAM
June 28th, 2006 at 7:56 am
I’d like to see the media and MRA groups put the emphasis on why a man like Mack would do what he did. Why would a successful man with no trouble with the law before do this? You know, like why did Andrea Yates kill her five kids? Why do adult women molest minor students? Why do lesbian-feminist engineering professors jump off buildings and commit suicide? Believing that MRAs must all come out and condemn Mack, that THIS must be our primary message, is just another example of believing that all men are inherently violent and evil, and must forever defend themselves against this sterotypical condemnation. The message should be similar to:
“Yes, Andrea Yates killed her children, and that was wrong, BUT why did she do it?”
or:
“Yes, when adult women molest children that is wrong, BUT why do they do it?”
or:
“It’s so sad that the lesbian-feminist killed herself, BUT why did she do it?”
How about:
“We all know that murder and attempted murder are wrong, BUT what are the circumstances that would cause an otherwise law abiding man, like Mack, to consider and carry out the actions that he did?”
June 28th, 2006 at 7:57 am
Either a lot of judges are very bad at simple basic math, or a lot of judges pretend they are.
I think its the latter because even a father expected to turn over his life savings to an ex-wife and some lawyers, along with 150% of his income in child support and alimony is quickly tuned out, when making his claim, as a deadbeat who just doesn’t care about his children. On top of the big money-grab, fathers are often more concerned with what it is they are doing to his children in order to get his money. Typically, this means holding the child(ren) for ransom plus the leverage of false allegations in order to secure the cash flow and put him at her mercy for any hope of remaining a parent.
Once you understand how common sense and basic fairness play absolutely no role in family law, you begin to understand how someone like Darren Mack has essentially three choices.
1. Play along. For Mack, this means taking a huge negative cash flow under threat of prison if he doesn’t find a way to vastly increase his already superior income. Of course if he manages to double his already high income, the ex-wife will simply take him back to court to get that too, and the judge will once again repeat the cycle of ignoring basic math and give the superior rights gender parent pretty much whatever she wants. Its a lose-lose proposition for him, but if she allows him to be a father to his child(ren) its about as good as it gets.
2. Kill himself. This is an increasingly popular choice for divorced fathers once they understand how the system works. They thought they lived in a free country, had rights, and that the best interests of the child actually mattered, only to learn its all about gender and money, and the father is the one everybody wants to take money from under the guise of concern for his child(ren).
3. Go ballistic. The father’s life is basically over once a mother decides to cash him in at a nearby family court, especially if she is struck by the slightest whim of vindictiveness. The only thing that can subdue the greedy lawyers and judges under feminist jurisprudence is the choice of the mother. Fewer women have even basic decency in these days of female entitlement, so more and more fathers are put in a position where this seems to be way to go. With family law corrupted beyond recognition of anything remotely resembling fairness or justice, this is the only thing a mother, a judge, or a lawyer has to fear as a negative consequence for putting men in such a position.
While the law today revolves around ensuring women have a “choice” in everything, even if that means aborting, abusing, or otherwise harming her children and using a court of law to satisfy a malicious and/or greedy whim, this is pretty much all there is as far as “choice” for fathers. Darren Mack allegedly chose option 3.
June 28th, 2006 at 8:57 am
DCFather-
yes. And what you have posted should be in the MSM.
Afterall, if Andrea Yates “snapped”, and if school teachers molesting children have a “bipolar condition” perhaps Mack also “snapped”.
I’d like to see someone in the media put together an honest look into why someone like Mack would “snap”. What have the Family Courts done?
June 28th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
During my three yearlong divorce, on a three yearlong marriage, I had negative cash flow in each month.
While I explained to my attorneys, and, as a pro se, to the judge, my financial difficulties, they did not care. Instead they focused on my non-marital cash from a recent real estate closing. I received less than 10% of my money.
Bottom line, if you’re a guy do not get married, as risk is high. It could cripple you financially and emotionally.
Further, divorced dads do not get support from friends and family, because they understand divorce from feminist moms, movies, and television.
I read a government statistic that tens of thousands of men committ suicide every year during a seperation and or divorce.
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/03/15/divorce.suicide.wmd/
June 29th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
This situation reminds me of the last time I was on jury duty and I told the judge I was facing economic hardship and didn’t want to serve. I said I would have been happy to serve, even if I was unpaid, under ordinary circumstances.
She didn’t care and kept me on.
I then heard the case and observed that while the man was facing a charge for DV, women jurors stated that the had a bias that a woman could hit a man but not vice versa and she didn’t dismiss them. I wanted to stay at that point even under duress just to ensure justice was done. Until I found out I was an alternate and just wasting my time.
I then revealed to the judge, in hearing distance of the other selected jurors, that I was a victim of DV but I didn’t do anything because I was advised that the system was rigged against men. She was less than pleased but dismissed me.
I left with the impression that judges sometimes have goddess complexes or maybe don’t care about justice.
June 30th, 2006 at 5:56 pm
Tong is just trying to get famous. He was already on teh Rita Cosby show. He blew it with his tests that didn’t find any problems with Mack. Now Mack killed his wife and shot a judge. Tong doesn’t look good. He’s just covering his ass.