Another Man’s Wife, Part one

2006-07-05
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She sat there in the hospital bed, crying and despondent, six months pregnant, recovering from surgery.  According to the x-rays, the lower part of Ann’s right leg now looked like a shelf at a hardware store; all the screws and plates needed to repair a spiral fracture.  “Chuck works so hard… he’s tried everything and his family is so rotten to me…” and it got worse from there.  My job, as a friend of the family and all around ‘good guy’ (note the sarcasm) was to cheer her up and the only way to do that, sadly, was to do a fair amount of lying.  She is and always has been an honorable wife and committed mother, and her husband, now working on job #6 in seven years, was no where around.  He wasn’t around two days earlier when she went in for surgery when she called asking me if I could find him.  They had no health insurance, he kept getting fired from job after job and his family hated her because she didn’t belong to their little corner of Christianity; they were German and Lutheran, she was native American and Church of Christ. She was from the South; he was born and raised in Wisconsin.  They had two little girls at home and a friend was watching them while Chuck, the husband was… somewhere. What had started out as a kind gesture on my part was now starting to turn into torture. 

 
It was a Friday night in September, 2004 and she sat there in bed, crying and despondent, six months pregnant, recovering from surgery.  I had gone to church with these folks for years and Ann had always been very kind to me.  She was something of a kindred spirit being an Evangelical Southerner in the heart of the Midwest.  As the years had gone by, my opinion of this young mother had done nothing but go up.  My opinion of her husband, the quintessential redneck for Jerkwater, USA, had done nothing but go down.

 
In Chuck’s case here was a guy who was working on job #6 in seven years, ignored Ann’s advice at one job, wouldn’t leave the girls alone and gets fired, ignores my advice at another job and gets fired, ignored my advice again on an investment and gets creamed, gets in trouble at a restaurant with one of the waitresses (I had lunch with Chuck one day at this restaurant and one of his employees, a cute red head, came up and berated him on ‘why are you telling people I look fat with my clothes off.’) It certainly made her angry and after she was done publicly raking him over the coals, he sheepishly asked “I guess you guys will be testifying at my divorce?” My friend told him not to worry about a divorce, but to worry about getting fired.  And in a few weeks Chuck got canned… again. 
In addition, this wonderful husband, fully supported by a loving wife, allowed his wacko, myopic, ethnocentric, cultish family to insult, demean and ignore Ann. Repeatedly. And I saw it when she came home from the hospital.  Those wonderful pseudo-Christian people couldn’t have cared less about her surgery and the help a six month’s pregnant woman with two toddler age children would need to recover.  And where’s Chuck?  Was he a ‘man?’  Did he defend his wife and say ‘go away until you people can show some proper respect?’ Not likely… he didn’t respect her, why should they?

 
Over the last few years he referred to Ann in the company of others as ‘fat,’ a ‘bitch’ and bragged about her ‘nude pics’ on the internet.  I don’t care what the ‘context’ was, you don’t say that stuff to your wife, especially when she is announcing she is pregnant or especially on their wedding anniversary, which Chuck did.  “Yeah, guess your fat rump will get fatter.  You guys want to see pictures of her fat rump? They’re on the internet” he said smugly. When I found the pictures in question (yes… you would be curious too) I was furious. It had to do with her giving birth to their second child and I can think of few women who would want to be photographed or video taped doing that.  Ann allowed the photographs for her midwife’s website and I doubt she would want her friends to see them. Or for her loving husband broadcasting that info. Then to add insult literally to injury the old boy starts hassling her about her weight while she’s pregnant and wearing a cast. ‘Honey, you need to lose some weight before spring.’ And Saint Ann’s response: ‘He was just encouraging me…’  Yeah, right. Ann didn’t have a malicious bone in her body and could never believe anyone else does, especially her husband. She really thought Chuck was trying to be ‘helpful.’ In life, there are lots of egocentric people to avoid.  Sadly, she married one.

 
Giving your pregnant, temporarily crippled wife a hard time about her weight is not encouragement, that’s cruel; cruel bordering on sadistic. It is a ‘sugar coated dagger.’  Manipulators have many tools at their disposal. Sometimes they tear at someone else’s self esteem in a jokingly/humorous form, pick at some insecurity they have, beat them down, keep them down and then they’re easy to control that way.  Ann is a very devout Christian; she would submit to her husband because she believes it is her duty.  And whether she was submissive or not, no one deserves that type of psychological subversion.  And in the hospital I saw the end result of Chuck and his family’s handiwork.

 
However, the icing on the cake was the day after Thanksgiving. I was at their house with my kids babysitting their girls so Chuck could take his wife out shopping. It doesn’t sound like much but it was a great source of relief when the poor woman could get out the house for a while. Upon their return, Ann attempted to work her way up a set of wet concrete steps on crutches. But was Chuck standing by his wife, helping her and his unborn son up the stairs? No… he decided something in the garage was more important and when she fell no one was there to catch her.  She could’ve re-injured the leg or lost the baby and I figured he would never make that mistake again.  Once again, I overrated Chuck. He tried to give an ‘encore performance’ by taking her to a birthday party for friend’s baby, and of course he opened no doors, offered no help, found no chairs for her to sit in.  He took the girls out to their van and sat in there while she maneuvered her way out and climbed back in.  I left early as the entire scene was infuriating.  When they left, a friend let me know Chuck ‘parked his butt in the van’ and let her way out by herself.

 
To sum it up, he conned her into marrying him, dragged her up to Wisconsin, lied to keep her up here, lost 5 jobs in five years (two of them apparently because of poor conduct towards women), let his family treat her like crap, HE treated her like crap and she was eventually crushed. And because of who she is, she would never blame any of it on him.  Her husband in her eyes could do no wrong.  And if he did wrong or made a mistake she would still support him to the hilt.  Truly a wife of noble character.  For me, a divorced man with four children and a narcissistic witch for an ex-wife, it was crushing and painful to watch. 

 
Six years had passed since my divorce.  Six years of court dates, bad dates, missed dates, ‘stood up’ dates, and psychotic, man-hating ‘I’m ok-you better be perfect’ dates.  I went home and went to bed every night alone.  I went to movies… alone.  I went to the hospital one night unbearably ill… alone.  I threw birthday parties for my kids… alone.  And I spent every Christmas Eve wrapping presents for my children alone. And this bastard was married to the best woman I had ever known and he treated her like an unwanted, obsolete piece of property.  It is tempting to say he treated her like a ‘two bit whore’ but that wouldn’t be true.  Prostitutes are generally treated better than Ann.

 
She had done her best to deal with the situation at hand, keeping a strong, noble attitude that all would be well; that God was in control.  Ann was kind, non-judgmental, gracious.  Friendly and willing to offer food or help to those who were in need and yes, there really are people like that in the world today.  Women like her are rare.  In post-sexual revolution, post-feminism America, they’re damn near extinct.   She was one of them.  And now pregnant, disabled for a time, her face now covered in acne from the hormonal changes, and I this man who swore never to get married again came to a terrible realization:  I wanted her. Horribly, I wanted her as my wife. 

 
But now that I knew this, now I realized that for months and maybe years I had slowly allowed this friendship to become something far more, now what? The most challenging part of this equation: it wasn’t sexual, it was purely logical and that is far worse than being ‘infatuated’ with someone.  Far worse than a ‘crush.’  I was old enough and experienced enough to know something else for certain:  She was the best. She was the best in character and intellect and in time she would heal from her injuries, so looks were not an issue.  She was the best I had ever known and I wanted her as my wife more than anything I had ever known. Anything.  This is called Coveting.  It is the Tenth Commandment which says not to covet your neighbor’s wife, among other things.  And coveting, the unfulfilled want and desire for something that is morally unattainable, can eventually destroy your character.  

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  • fourthwire

    Setting Ann’s apparently saintly character under the spotlight for a moment, WHO chose an ignoramus like Chuck as her husband?

    WHO chose to have children with Chuck, in spite of the fact that he was a cad, a miserable provider, and a thoughtless, self-centered individual?

    Based on the available evidence as supplied by you, Eric:

    Chuck is callous, self-centered, and emotionally abusive.

    Ann married and reproduced with a man that she seems incapable of seeing accurately for those characteristics that define his behavior.

    “Ann was kind, non-judgmental, gracious. Friendly and willing to offer food or help to those who were in need and yes, there really are people like that in the world today. Women like her are rare. In post-sexual revolution, post-feminism America, they’re damn near extinct.”

    Women like Ann are not necessarily rare, at least outside of the so-called “developed” nations.

    If you TRULY want to find a woman like Ann to marry, your best bets involve searching in those nations not yet subjected to radical feminist ideology.

    And your search for such good-hearted, male- and family-friendly women to marry might be comparitively easier if it were not for a bit of feminazi lobbying that led to a nasty bit of legislation known by the acronym of IMBRA, which essentially treats American prospective husbands as potential woman-hating thugs.

  • fourthwire

    Setting Ann’s apparently saintly character under the spotlight for a moment, WHO chose an ignoramus like Chuck as her husband?

    WHO chose to have children with Chuck, in spite of the fact that he was a cad, a miserable provider, and a thoughtless, self-centered individual?

    Based on the available evidence as supplied by you, Eric:

    Chuck is callous, self-centered, and emotionally abusive.

    Ann married and reproduced with a man that she seems incapable of seeing accurately for those characteristics that define his behavior.

    “Ann was kind, non-judgmental, gracious. Friendly and willing to offer food or help to those who were in need and yes, there really are people like that in the world today. Women like her are rare. In post-sexual revolution, post-feminism America, they’re damn near extinct.”

    Women like Ann are not necessarily rare, at least outside of the so-called “developed” nations.

    If you TRULY want to find a woman like Ann to marry, your best bets involve searching in those nations not yet subjected to radical feminist ideology.

    And your search for such good-hearted, male- and family-friendly women to marry might be comparitively easier if it were not for a bit of feminazi lobbying that led to a nasty bit of legislation known by the acronym of IMBRA, which essentially treats American prospective husbands as potential woman-hating thugs.

  • bethesda_paul

    Women like Ann are not rare. I’ve known plenty of women who adore men who treat them like garbage. In fact, when they finally get away from a bad guy, they very often find someone exactly the same.

    If you want Ann or a woman like her, you have to be like the guys she finds attractive. If not, move on to a woman who doesn’t prefer low-lifes.

    All through your narrative you describe abuse, neglect and humiliation, yet Ann is always enthusiastically optimistic about her jerk husband. It may be difficult to understand, but she has the relationship she wants. She seems to be getting everything she needs from her husband.

  • bethesda_paul

    Women like Ann are not rare. I’ve known plenty of women who adore men who treat them like garbage. In fact, when they finally get away from a bad guy, they very often find someone exactly the same.

    If you want Ann or a woman like her, you have to be like the guys she finds attractive. If not, move on to a woman who doesn’t prefer low-lifes.

    All through your narrative you describe abuse, neglect and humiliation, yet Ann is always enthusiastically optimistic about her jerk husband. It may be difficult to understand, but she has the relationship she wants. She seems to be getting everything she needs from her husband.

  • bethesda_paul

    Women like Ann are not rare. I’ve known plenty of women who adore men who treat them like garbage. In fact, when they finally get away from a bad guy, they very often find someone exactly the same.

    If you want Ann or a woman like her, you have to be like the guys she finds attractive. If not, move on to a woman who doesn’t prefer low-lifes.

    All through your narrative you describe abuse, neglect and humiliation, yet Ann is always enthusiastically optimistic about her jerk husband. It may be difficult to understand, but she has the relationship she wants. She seems to be getting everything she needs from her husband.

  • bethesda_paul

    Women like Ann are not rare. I’ve known plenty of women who adore men who treat them like garbage. In fact, when they finally get away from a bad guy, they very often find someone exactly the same.

    If you want Ann or a woman like her, you have to be like the guys she finds attractive. If not, move on to a woman who doesn’t prefer low-lifes.

    All through your narrative you describe abuse, neglect and humiliation, yet Ann is always enthusiastically optimistic about her jerk husband. It may be difficult to understand, but she has the relationship she wants. She seems to be getting everything she needs from her husband.

  • PolishKnight

    Looking real closely at this article, we can see how both sexes enabled bad behaviour in the other. “Ann” tolerated an abusive louse because of her Christian beliefs. But at the same time, Eric apparently tolerated abusive behaviour from women because of chivalry.

    Chuck apparently got fired twice for “poor conduct towards women”. In our society today, that could easily have been Eric for being too careless. Ann has just one “Chuck” while Eric has a string of women that he encouraged to think lowly of men by his own chivalrous knightly behaviour.

    I liked the story about the redhead waitress. She apparently had no problem “publically raking him over the coals” for saying lewd things about her behind her back. Is that ladylike? Did she need to do this? If a woman had said something like this about him, would he have felt it necessary to make a scene?

  • PolishKnight

    Looking real closely at this article, we can see how both sexes enabled bad behaviour in the other. “Ann” tolerated an abusive louse because of her Christian beliefs. But at the same time, Eric apparently tolerated abusive behaviour from women because of chivalry.

    Chuck apparently got fired twice for “poor conduct towards women”. In our society today, that could easily have been Eric for being too careless. Ann has just one “Chuck” while Eric has a string of women that he encouraged to think lowly of men by his own chivalrous knightly behaviour.

    I liked the story about the redhead waitress. She apparently had no problem “publically raking him over the coals” for saying lewd things about her behind her back. Is that ladylike? Did she need to do this? If a woman had said something like this about him, would he have felt it necessary to make a scene?

  • PolishKnight

    Looking real closely at this article, we can see how both sexes enabled bad behaviour in the other. “Ann” tolerated an abusive louse because of her Christian beliefs. But at the same time, Eric apparently tolerated abusive behaviour from women because of chivalry.

    Chuck apparently got fired twice for “poor conduct towards women”. In our society today, that could easily have been Eric for being too careless. Ann has just one “Chuck” while Eric has a string of women that he encouraged to think lowly of men by his own chivalrous knightly behaviour.

    I liked the story about the redhead waitress. She apparently had no problem “publically raking him over the coals” for saying lewd things about her behind her back. Is that ladylike? Did she need to do this? If a woman had said something like this about him, would he have felt it necessary to make a scene?

  • PolishKnight

    Looking real closely at this article, we can see how both sexes enabled bad behaviour in the other. “Ann” tolerated an abusive louse because of her Christian beliefs. But at the same time, Eric apparently tolerated abusive behaviour from women because of chivalry.

    Chuck apparently got fired twice for “poor conduct towards women”. In our society today, that could easily have been Eric for being too careless. Ann has just one “Chuck” while Eric has a string of women that he encouraged to think lowly of men by his own chivalrous knightly behaviour.

    I liked the story about the redhead waitress. She apparently had no problem “publically raking him over the coals” for saying lewd things about her behind her back. Is that ladylike? Did she need to do this? If a woman had said something like this about him, would he have felt it necessary to make a scene?

  • Toubrouk

    Eric, do yourself a favor; stay away of that woman. It’s like Bethesda Paul said, If she was that much unhappy, why she dint just left eons ago?

    All that crap bring back the movie “Forest Gump” into my mind. The main female role was that “Wonderfull” woman who just keep on getting in the wrong relationships. At the end of the movie, she pass away due to AIDS and leave to the main hero, the charge of his son he never met before.

    My question now is: Do we need to find her an excuse? She could had lived a better life but she had chosen to not do it. Do men really need to be the savior of women at all cost? Now that women can be cops, soldiers and astronauts, why should’nt leave them the choice of their relationships? Why do Ann is still there even if the guy is rotten? Maybe she’s in love with that type of men, Maybe she love the sentiment of martyrdom or maybe she’s just too dumb to see the truth. The fact is, Eric, she had CHOSEN that guy, period.

    Love, for me is just like buying something; “Buyer’s Beware” is my motto. She made her choice to marry him AND to stay with him? Why should you step between her and her need?

  • Toubrouk

    Eric, do yourself a favor; stay away of that woman. It’s like Bethesda Paul said, If she was that much unhappy, why she dint just left eons ago?

    All that crap bring back the movie “Forest Gump” into my mind. The main female role was that “Wonderfull” woman who just keep on getting in the wrong relationships. At the end of the movie, she pass away due to AIDS and leave to the main hero, the charge of his son he never met before.

    My question now is: Do we need to find her an excuse? She could had lived a better life but she had chosen to not do it. Do men really need to be the savior of women at all cost? Now that women can be cops, soldiers and astronauts, why should’nt leave them the choice of their relationships? Why do Ann is still there even if the guy is rotten? Maybe she’s in love with that type of men, Maybe she love the sentiment of martyrdom or maybe she’s just too dumb to see the truth. The fact is, Eric, she had CHOSEN that guy, period.

    Love, for me is just like buying something; “Buyer’s Beware” is my motto. She made her choice to marry him AND to stay with him? Why should you step between her and her need?

  • Toubrouk

    Eric, do yourself a favor; stay away of that woman. It’s like Bethesda Paul said, If she was that much unhappy, why she dint just left eons ago?

    All that crap bring back the movie “Forest Gump” into my mind. The main female role was that “Wonderfull” woman who just keep on getting in the wrong relationships. At the end of the movie, she pass away due to AIDS and leave to the main hero, the charge of his son he never met before.

    My question now is: Do we need to find her an excuse? She could had lived a better life but she had chosen to not do it. Do men really need to be the savior of women at all cost? Now that women can be cops, soldiers and astronauts, why should’nt leave them the choice of their relationships? Why do Ann is still there even if the guy is rotten? Maybe she’s in love with that type of men, Maybe she love the sentiment of martyrdom or maybe she’s just too dumb to see the truth. The fact is, Eric, she had CHOSEN that guy, period.

    Love, for me is just like buying something; “Buyer’s Beware” is my motto. She made her choice to marry him AND to stay with him? Why should you step between her and her need?

  • Toubrouk

    Eric, do yourself a favor; stay away of that woman. It’s like Bethesda Paul said, If she was that much unhappy, why she dint just left eons ago?

    All that crap bring back the movie “Forest Gump” into my mind. The main female role was that “Wonderfull” woman who just keep on getting in the wrong relationships. At the end of the movie, she pass away due to AIDS and leave to the main hero, the charge of his son he never met before.

    My question now is: Do we need to find her an excuse? She could had lived a better life but she had chosen to not do it. Do men really need to be the savior of women at all cost? Now that women can be cops, soldiers and astronauts, why should’nt leave them the choice of their relationships? Why do Ann is still there even if the guy is rotten? Maybe she’s in love with that type of men, Maybe she love the sentiment of martyrdom or maybe she’s just too dumb to see the truth. The fact is, Eric, she had CHOSEN that guy, period.

    Love, for me is just like buying something; “Buyer’s Beware” is my motto. She made her choice to marry him AND to stay with him? Why should you step between her and her need?

  • christianj

    Wait, let me get out the tissues.

    Eric, are you sure your not a female in disguise, maybe just another feminist dragging down males and delving into a bit of male-bashing, as if women as such wonderful creatures and never do anything wrong or incorrect.

    This seems like it would be standard reading at “wommyn’s studies” to improve the angst and handwringing.

    The thing about thoses women in abusive relationships is that if you were to place them in an opposite one they would be bored, longing for the past. This is from on self-confessed female that I have spoken to. Did not want to leave it, and didn’t.

  • christianj

    Wait, let me get out the tissues.

    Eric, are you sure your not a female in disguise, maybe just another feminist dragging down males and delving into a bit of male-bashing, as if women as such wonderful creatures and never do anything wrong or incorrect.

    This seems like it would be standard reading at “wommyn’s studies” to improve the angst and handwringing.

    The thing about thoses women in abusive relationships is that if you were to place them in an opposite one they would be bored, longing for the past. This is from on self-confessed female that I have spoken to. Did not want to leave it, and didn’t.

  • christianj

    Wait, let me get out the tissues.

    Eric, are you sure your not a female in disguise, maybe just another feminist dragging down males and delving into a bit of male-bashing, as if women as such wonderful creatures and never do anything wrong or incorrect.

    This seems like it would be standard reading at “wommyn’s studies” to improve the angst and handwringing.

    The thing about thoses women in abusive relationships is that if you were to place them in an opposite one they would be bored, longing for the past. This is from on self-confessed female that I have spoken to. Did not want to leave it, and didn’t.

  • christianj

    Wait, let me get out the tissues.

    Eric, are you sure your not a female in disguise, maybe just another feminist dragging down males and delving into a bit of male-bashing, as if women as such wonderful creatures and never do anything wrong or incorrect.

    This seems like it would be standard reading at “wommyn’s studies” to improve the angst and handwringing.

    The thing about thoses women in abusive relationships is that if you were to place them in an opposite one they would be bored, longing for the past. This is from on self-confessed female that I have spoken to. Did not want to leave it, and didn’t.

  • dierdre

    We knew a couple who lived next door when I was growing up. The woman was just like the one you describe. She took the marriage itself very seriously and was very Christian. It didn’t matter when the guy had girlfriends or came home throwing up from drinking. The wife would just pray for him. She always said she was put on this earth to put him on the right path.

    I don’t think you are truly coveting if no damage has been done to Ann’s relationship because of you, just really love someone not available to you. But that’s life and sometimes the happy endings are only there for the worst possible human beings. Many decent men and women aren’t so lucky as to have no conscience. We care about how we treat others around us, and that can sometimes leave us lonely.

  • dierdre

    We knew a couple who lived next door when I was growing up. The woman was just like the one you describe. She took the marriage itself very seriously and was very Christian. It didn’t matter when the guy had girlfriends or came home throwing up from drinking. The wife would just pray for him. She always said she was put on this earth to put him on the right path.

    I don’t think you are truly coveting if no damage has been done to Ann’s relationship because of you, just really love someone not available to you. But that’s life and sometimes the happy endings are only there for the worst possible human beings. Many decent men and women aren’t so lucky as to have no conscience. We care about how we treat others around us, and that can sometimes leave us lonely.

  • dierdre

    We knew a couple who lived next door when I was growing up. The woman was just like the one you describe. She took the marriage itself very seriously and was very Christian. It didn’t matter when the guy had girlfriends or came home throwing up from drinking. The wife would just pray for him. She always said she was put on this earth to put him on the right path.

    I don’t think you are truly coveting if no damage has been done to Ann’s relationship because of you, just really love someone not available to you. But that’s life and sometimes the happy endings are only there for the worst possible human beings. Many decent men and women aren’t so lucky as to have no conscience. We care about how we treat others around us, and that can sometimes leave us lonely.

  • dierdre

    We knew a couple who lived next door when I was growing up. The woman was just like the one you describe. She took the marriage itself very seriously and was very Christian. It didn’t matter when the guy had girlfriends or came home throwing up from drinking. The wife would just pray for him. She always said she was put on this earth to put him on the right path.

    I don’t think you are truly coveting if no damage has been done to Ann’s relationship because of you, just really love someone not available to you. But that’s life and sometimes the happy endings are only there for the worst possible human beings. Many decent men and women aren’t so lucky as to have no conscience. We care about how we treat others around us, and that can sometimes leave us lonely.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/category/bullseye/the-daily-cause/ Bill C

    Eric,

    The problem is that Ann likes bad boys and you are a niceguy(TM). You have a problem. You listen to women bitch about their problems and that makes you into a girlfriend and women do not want to sleep with their girlfriends. Stop being this woman’s emotional tampon and get on with your life.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/category/bullseye/the-daily-cause/ Bill C

    Eric,

    The problem is that Ann likes bad boys and you are a niceguy(TM). You have a problem. You listen to women bitch about their problems and that makes you into a girlfriend and women do not want to sleep with their girlfriends. Stop being this woman’s emotional tampon and get on with your life.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/category/bullseye/the-daily-cause/ Bill C

    Eric,

    The problem is that Ann likes bad boys and you are a niceguy(TM). You have a problem. You listen to women bitch about their problems and that makes you into a girlfriend and women do not want to sleep with their girlfriends. Stop being this woman’s emotional tampon and get on with your life.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/category/bullseye/the-daily-cause/ Bill C

    Eric,

    The problem is that Ann likes bad boys and you are a niceguy(TM). You have a problem. You listen to women bitch about their problems and that makes you into a girlfriend and women do not want to sleep with their girlfriends. Stop being this woman’s emotional tampon and get on with your life.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com Mike LaSalle

    This is called Coveting. It is the Tenth Commandment which says not to covet your neighbor’s wife, among other things. And coveting, the unfulfilled want and desire for something that is morally unattainable, can eventually destroy your character.

    The fellow you described turns my stomach. And he certainly doesn’t deserve Ann. Nor she him. (One point: from what I gather, the order of the Ten Commandments is actually in question.)

    I also agree with your assessement regarding Coveting. These events are not occuring outside of any moral (or even physical) context. Therefore the “Law of Coveting” (if you will) is in force.

    Clearly a power imbalance exists between them – I don’t mean to belittle it with obvious tags. But she is doing the right thing in sticking by him. (and shame on you my bad good friend, for having such feelings!! Well, shucks, I guess you can’t control every brainless instinct in your body. Not me, of course. I tend to allow my brainless instincts to roam utterly free in hopes they all cancel each other out in the end….)

    But – Eric – all of this assumes the world is as you have painted it above…. If, on the other hand, part 2 introduces us to the “Rashomon Effect”, then of course a “Rashomon Response” might also be in order…

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com Mike LaSalle

    This is called Coveting. It is the Tenth Commandment which says not to covet your neighbor’s wife, among other things. And coveting, the unfulfilled want and desire for something that is morally unattainable, can eventually destroy your character.

    The fellow you described turns my stomach. And he certainly doesn’t deserve Ann. Nor she him. (One point: from what I gather, the order of the Ten Commandments is actually in question.)

    I also agree with your assessement regarding Coveting. These events are not occuring outside of any moral (or even physical) context. Therefore the “Law of Coveting” (if you will) is in force.

    Clearly a power imbalance exists between them – I don’t mean to belittle it with obvious tags. But she is doing the right thing in sticking by him. (and shame on you my bad good friend, for having such feelings!! Well, shucks, I guess you can’t control every brainless instinct in your body. Not me, of course. I tend to allow my brainless instincts to roam utterly free in hopes they all cancel each other out in the end….)

    But – Eric – all of this assumes the world is as you have painted it above…. If, on the other hand, part 2 introduces us to the “Rashomon Effect”, then of course a “Rashomon Response” might also be in order…

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com Mike LaSalle

    This is called Coveting. It is the Tenth Commandment which says not to covet your neighbor’s wife, among other things. And coveting, the unfulfilled want and desire for something that is morally unattainable, can eventually destroy your character.

    The fellow you described turns my stomach. And he certainly doesn’t deserve Ann. Nor she him. (One point: from what I gather, the order of the Ten Commandments is actually in question.)

    I also agree with your assessement regarding Coveting. These events are not occuring outside of any moral (or even physical) context. Therefore the “Law of Coveting” (if you will) is in force.

    Clearly a power imbalance exists between them – I don’t mean to belittle it with obvious tags. But she is doing the right thing in sticking by him. (and shame on you my bad good friend, for having such feelings!! Well, shucks, I guess you can’t control every brainless instinct in your body. Not me, of course. I tend to allow my brainless instincts to roam utterly free in hopes they all cancel each other out in the end….)

    But – Eric – all of this assumes the world is as you have painted it above…. If, on the other hand, part 2 introduces us to the “Rashomon Effect”, then of course a “Rashomon Response” might also be in order…

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com Mike LaSalle

    This is called Coveting. It is the Tenth Commandment which says not to covet your neighbor’s wife, among other things. And coveting, the unfulfilled want and desire for something that is morally unattainable, can eventually destroy your character.

    The fellow you described turns my stomach. And he certainly doesn’t deserve Ann. Nor she him. (One point: from what I gather, the order of the Ten Commandments is actually in question.)

    I also agree with your assessement regarding Coveting. These events are not occuring outside of any moral (or even physical) context. Therefore the “Law of Coveting” (if you will) is in force.

    Clearly a power imbalance exists between them – I don’t mean to belittle it with obvious tags. But she is doing the right thing in sticking by him. (and shame on you my bad good friend, for having such feelings!! Well, shucks, I guess you can’t control every brainless instinct in your body. Not me, of course. I tend to allow my brainless instincts to roam utterly free in hopes they all cancel each other out in the end….)

    But – Eric – all of this assumes the world is as you have painted it above…. If, on the other hand, part 2 introduces us to the “Rashomon Effect”, then of course a “Rashomon Response” might also be in order…






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