spectator.org

Friday, August 4, 2006
By MNDwire

Does a craven, doddering, almost senescent Old Europe have the will and the courage to defend Western Civilization?

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7 Responses to “spectator.org”

  1. 1
    emarel Says:

    No, it doesn’t.

  2. 2
    Hal Says:

    They are no longer either “western” or “civilized”. What is there for them to defend?

  3. 3
    DadWithGirls Says:

    The author of the piece writes – “The terrorists are fighting a war against the West.”

    It’s interesting that the “terrorists” consider the U.S., U.K., France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Sweden, Norway, Finland,Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Canada, and all the industrialized Asian counties, etc. — as the “west.”

    Yet cowboy America wants to “go it alone…” in the permanent War on Terrorism.

    (BTW, you can’t wage war on a “tactic” that’s 4,000 years old… you can’t kill a strategy.)

    We don’t like our “western” allies, and don’t plan to like them anytime soon.

    Wonder if it’s because most Americans live within 250 miles of where they were born, and have never left the continental U.S.?

    Naw…. couldn’t be that simple.

  4. 4
    fourthwire Says:

    “Yet cowboy America wants to “go it alone…”

    LOL……. Which idiot told you THAT bit of nonsense……….

    …… and why are you naive enough to believe her, dwc?

    If America “wants to go it alone”, then what are OTHER nation’s troops doing in Afghanistan and Iraq, do you suppose?

    Why would the U.S. government bother to spend time with a worthless organization like the U.N. trying to build a consensus on terrorism, do you suppose?

    Don’t get to read the news much, do you…..

    “We don’t like our “western” allies, and don’t plan to like them anytime soon.”

    Focus, international genius. Some allies such as the Brits and the Aussies show that they have the balls to stand up to terrorism.

    Other nominal allies do not. Try to keep up.

    “Wonder if it’s because most Americans live within 250 miles of where they were born, and have never left the continental U.S.?

    Do you know of many nations whose citizens do NOT live within 250 miles of where they were born, geographic genius?

    As for the majority of Americans never leaving the continental U.S., that’s generally true of ALL large nations.

    Do you believe that the majority of Canadians live beyond 250 miles from where they were born, or have left Canada?

    “Naw…. couldn’t be that simple.”

    ….. but anyone with your grasp of terrorism and Americans certainly is…..

  5. 5
    chas Says:

    We can’t expect much from Europe or the Catholic Church until this hippy generation dies off. Too many of them, like our Dems, are still imagining there are no heaven and no country, which makes cowardice absolute.

    We could require all countries who want to be out ally, use at least twenty percent of their government spending on military.

  6. 6
    Hal Says:

    Strange, fourthwire, you made sense.

    And by the way, the Canadians who move more than 250 miles from home all move to the U.S. to escape their wonderful social “safety-net”.

  7. 7
    fourthwire Says:

    Not strange at all, Hal.

    I have most likely lived in more foreign nations than DWG has, including a few on his list of “Western nations”.

    Some Europeans, living in relatively small nations, cross national borders as you or I would cross state or even county borders, in the case of the smallest ones.

    And quite a few of those individuals have convinced themselves that those frequent cross-border trips for business or pleasure have endowed them with greater sophistication and understanding of international issues than those “provincial” Americans.

    The fact that European nations started both world wars in the last century is usually forgotten in their reasoning………

    ……. not to mention the bloody consequences of their past colonial empires that continue to plague the planet even today.

    Besides, DWG made some fairly outrageous claims that were easy to refute.

    I am not certain of DWG’s nationality, nor is it particularly important, but his arguments resemble those that I have heard before, coming from young European individuals trying to convince themselves of their intellectual/cultural/moral superiority over those damned Yankees.;-)

    “And by the way, the Canadians who move more than 250 miles from home all move to the U.S. to escape their wonderful social “safety-net”.”

    Thanks for pointing that particular phenomenon out. Also, many of the more talented and ambitious professionals from “Old European” nations emigrate to the U.S. and other nations to escape their own national social safety-nets’ burden.

    After Margaret Thatcher dismantled a bit of Britain’s welfare state, it was not uncommon for more talented and ambitious continental Europeans to move to that nation, allowing them to escape the worst excesses of taxation, without even leaving the E.U.

    cheers

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