At least he’ll have lived for something. If you’re not willing to die for something, you’re not living. Murtari is courageouslydoing what he can and.

“Is making a point that important? He is one man who will be completely ignored by the state. Nobody cares about Murtari but himself, his son and his family.”

Not true as many stood outside the jail house in protest. Did you? The attitude you promote just continues the abuse us families are suffering. Looks like you need a little more suffering in your life to gain empathy for others.

I haven’t seen or talked to my two adopted children in eight years. I documented the entire ordeal we went through to be used as a tool by others in their fight. It took six years to finish Deadbeat Dad and another year to publish it. It can be found here. http://www.lulu.com/content/315711.

After you read it you might understand a little about what some of us went and are going through. I hope it is of some use to others.

I note that you make no comment as to wishing he comes through his self imposed ordeal without damaging his health.

Mr. Mutari isn’t here to defend himself from you and your accusations and slurs – is it a characteristic of yours to take advantage of anyone or take opportunities like this to attack someone who can’t currently defend himself.

Mr Mutari is a human being, whether or not we agree with his ideas or what he is doing. Your attitude towards him, and the attitudes of others who seem to not care whether he lives through this debases our Western society in my view.

Fathers are routinely being excluded from their children’s lives on the basis of fraudulent evidence. There are lawyers in my country appalled at the family law system they are forced to try to represent.

It isn’t so much of a surprise that people dress up in tights or superhero costumes, but that decent people are forced into such actions.

John is taking things to an even greater extreme and only he knows why he feels he must do this, but the legions of fathers similarly damaged is probably enough cause for this kind of response.

There are “NO” parental rights in relation to the child in the UK – probably contravening human rights conventions according to Clem Henricson of the National Family and Parenting Institute – so maybe John isn’t far off the mark.

Are you not acting like a spoiled child by coming here to defend your laws? If you pride yourself on being such an adult then maybe you should engage with other lawyers who oppose your support for current ‘unjust’ laws.

GrahamG

Murtari can perhaps make a compelling rationalization concerning his current situation by claiming that emotional support and visitation is much more important than the payment of child support. However, claiming that his “civil rights” have been violated is a stretch of the imagination. The fact remains that he and his ex were unable to communicate and had to ask a judge to resolve their disputes. The judge acted within the law. Shared parenting is more of a utopian concept than an exact science. Two parents who are unable to communicate make shared parenting a difficult concept to accept across the board.

Child support is the primary issue given that is what Murtari is in jail for. He is not in jail for protesting the family law system. If his failure to pay child support is actually a protest against the family law system then the classification of “Murtari the deadbeat” is appropriate.

In pressing for reform of the family law system, Murtari is now a liability for all concerned. Legislators are not going to take a twice convicted deadbeat seriously – anymore than they take adults dressing as cartoon characters climbing bridges and what not.

There are more productive ways to bring about changes to the family law system than the route that Murtari is taking. Refusing to eat and costing the taxpayer substantial amounts of money to keep him alive is not going to get an early release for Murtari and will not bring about any reforms.

A good parent will act like an adult and be responsible. Murtari is demonstrating once again that his priorities in life are a bit off center. He is acting like a spoiled child, and his extensive writings support that assertion.

I am sure that whatever people’s views on family law, or John’s campaign objectives, we would all wish that he comes through this self imposed ordeal without harming his health too much in the process.

Please send him my good wishes if any of you are in contact with him, and tell him he has proved his committment beyond any reasonable doubt.

GrahamG

P.S. John may possibly remember me, I’m from the UK and perhaps he’ll remember our discussions regarding “a child’s best interests” and what that phrase may mean.

You, and everyone else, can find all the facts about Murtari on his website.

On his web site, it is stated that he has an annual income of $20,000 plus – $22,000 if I remember correctly. He pays $50 per month – or $600 per year. The math is quite simple after that.

The man has a Masters Degree in computer science. He owns his own company where his 2 employees make more money than he does. Could he make more money? More than likely – but he would rather squander his life in jail and making meaningless protests.

The last thing that the “movement” needs is a deadbeat parent, such as Murtari, pushing for reform.

Well, I’ve been waiting for two days for your numbers on Murtari and his .003% child support, as you claim.

Next time, at least be wearing a boot when you decide to kick a man when he’s down.

http://www.clasp.org/publications/backing_away_on_child_support.pdf

The administrative procedures are methods by which child support orders are made and enforced by an executive agency rather than by courts or judges.

It appears they will and can whatever it takes for Mr. Mutari to pay even if it kills him.

I did find this October 2005 Editorial from the New York Times. It is very long and tedious but read carefully for I found this, “A consensus has emerged that child support should be paid to families and not treated as government revenues. The research is clear that many fathers are unwilling to pay when their child support payments are kept by the government, effectively taxing them at a 100 percent rate. The policy of holding back collections to repay welfare benefits has driven many fathers of children receiving welfare benefits away from steady employment and regular contact with their children and helped to push them into the underground economy. However, the Wisconsin pass-through demonstration and other studies provide solid evidence that fathers pay more support when the money goes to their children instead of the government. Both Senate and House TANF reauthorization bills reflect that consensus by authorizing states to pay more of the child support to children, rather than the government. Yet, if these proposed cuts go through, states will not be able to afford to carry out the distribution reforms intended to bring the child support program into line with the self-sufficiency and family reinforcement goals of welfare reform.”

When you find yourself among these criminals, and explain to them what a joke the lawyers have turned the legal system into, they will demand their speedy trials. Of course by trying to pad their bills the lawyers have created such backlog that they can’t try all the criminals.

I was jailed 16 years ago for failure to pay lawyer support (civil contempt). I was given an indefinite sentence. I used this tactic and was released in 11 days.

I had decided a year earlier to quit playing by their rules, when the child support racketeers decided that I should be paying their protection. I wasn’t behind, and the amount was doable, but it was the second time around with the racketeers. I quit paying. They threatened once to charge me, but when I went to them and suggested they make good on their threat. They showed their true colors. Once you make it clear to them that you will be a political prisoner, they will not want you in their jail. But if you accept them treating you like a criminal, they know they’ve broken you.

The message I leave with is that it is a waste of my time to be involved with men’s rights issues except within my own circle of friends. I also leave with the understanding that the threat to my rights as a man are not only feminists and feminists enablers, but also the fact that most men really do not care strongly enough about their own rights to want to fight for them (with due respect for Stephen Baskerville, Mike LaSalle, AngryHarry, and several others).

There are issues here other than financial, such as a custodial parent being allowed to move a child across the country thus effectively removing the parenting rights of the non-custodial parent. What is more important than access to your child?

However, I would like to know what the financial facts are.

FamilyLawyer wrote “This man pays less than .003% of his annual income towards the care of his child.” .003% of say $100,000 would be $3! I doubt this is true. It makes me wonder if FamilyLawyer is a feminist who can’t do math, a feminist who lies, or both. Am I being redundant here?

Murtari has claimed he can not afford the court ordered payments. Can anyone point me to the facts of what his income is and what he is being told to pay?

That being said, I could not condem someone for shooting a judge in one of these cases IF IT WAS THEIR ONLY OFFENCE. Yep, that’s what I believe and I’m brave enough to say it. Judges take an oath and when they deviate from the constitution and continue to trample people’s rights they become criminals. If a criminal was taking my rights then I would have no qualms about defending myself.

It is the RESPONSIBILITY of courts and judges to protect our freedoms and when they fail in that they need to take personal responsibility for their actions.

And I am pleased to see that he is costing the state much more than the average inmate. Going to the emergency room and the other medical expenses add up quickly! I have heard it costs the average of $30 to $50 dollars a day to keep someone in jail without added expenses:
7 x $30.00 = $210.00 per week or $10,920 per year.
So, when it starts to really costs the taxpayers to play the lock up the “deadbeat (or more than likely “deadbroke”) dad” game the less often incarceration will be used.

We are not going to get past that “in the best interests of the child or children” mantra by being nice and stepping up to the plate and all the rest of that archaic rot!

John is showing us the way and he is a true hero in my opinion.

BP, they pick us off one at a time… Murtari may becoming a Noble focal point for this movement… we’ve needed that for a long time.

Sure, he may be able to help himself, but I get a feeling this is more about what his son will face in the future than what John is trying to fix now.

That six week vacation seemed a bit excessive to me until I realized that maybe he was saying goodbye… We need to make Everyone aware of this man… EVERYONE… by any non-violent means available…