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	<title>Comments on: Missing Men Give Lie To Fatuous Careerism</title>
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		<title>By: PolishKnight</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/14/missing-men-give-lie-to-fatuous-careerism/comment-page-1/#comment-16271</link>
		<dc:creator>PolishKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Or more broadly, few women want to be married to men who are not good providers. Even successful single women who have high paying careers want to be married to men who are even more successful.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m working on a post that goes into this in more detail.  In the past, professional women demanded such men as a matter of snobbishness.  It was not uncommon in the 90&#039;s for such women to buy their own diamond rings if they couldn&#039;t find a successful man to do it for them.  

Today, times have changed as the fruits of the same leftist tree that created feminism come to, er, ripen.  A decade ago, working class couples were pushed into dual wageearner for simple survival.  Today, many professional women now feel pinched to make ends meet on their own and often struggle to make ends meet even with dual professional incomes.  Living in blue stater metro areas isn&#039;t cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or more broadly, few women want to be married to men who are not good providers. Even successful single women who have high paying careers want to be married to men who are even more successful.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on a post that goes into this in more detail.  In the past, professional women demanded such men as a matter of snobbishness.  It was not uncommon in the 90&#8217;s for such women to buy their own diamond rings if they couldn&#8217;t find a successful man to do it for them.  </p>
<p>Today, times have changed as the fruits of the same leftist tree that created feminism come to, er, ripen.  A decade ago, working class couples were pushed into dual wageearner for simple survival.  Today, many professional women now feel pinched to make ends meet on their own and often struggle to make ends meet even with dual professional incomes.  Living in blue stater metro areas isn&#8217;t cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Career Scam&quot; was one of the biggest foisted on the young women coming of age during the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s along with the &quot;life-style&quot; and &quot;relationship&quot; scams.  I remember hearing a friend of mine talking about his &quot;career&quot; as occupational therapist.  That brought me up short.  A &quot;career&quot; is something pretty much all consuming. Pablo Picasso and &quot;Tiger&quot; Woods had or have careers; grocery clerks and even some doctors and lawyers don&#039;t.  Artists whether successful or not have careers, some might even say &quot;vocations&quot; which is even higher.
    Columnist Bonnie Urbe is still trying to hustle the nonsense that men go off to an exciting, intellectually stimulating world every day when they go to work.  Not the ones I know, and that includes &quot;professional&quot; people.
    The root of this foolishness was expressed by the law professor on &quot;Good Morning, America&quot; who said that the only place for an adult is in an office. This assumes that the relationship between a man and a woman is the same as between a Swede and a Bulgarian.
    Nonsense.
    The difference in that relationship is accidental.  The difference between a man and a woman is substantive.  It has the power to create children and our future.
    I just sick and tired of people who cannot see the obvious or think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Career Scam&#8221; was one of the biggest foisted on the young women coming of age during the 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s along with the &#8220;life-style&#8221; and &#8220;relationship&#8221; scams.  I remember hearing a friend of mine talking about his &#8220;career&#8221; as occupational therapist.  That brought me up short.  A &#8220;career&#8221; is something pretty much all consuming. Pablo Picasso and &#8220;Tiger&#8221; Woods had or have careers; grocery clerks and even some doctors and lawyers don&#8217;t.  Artists whether successful or not have careers, some might even say &#8220;vocations&#8221; which is even higher.<br />
    Columnist Bonnie Urbe is still trying to hustle the nonsense that men go off to an exciting, intellectually stimulating world every day when they go to work.  Not the ones I know, and that includes &#8220;professional&#8221; people.<br />
    The root of this foolishness was expressed by the law professor on &#8220;Good Morning, America&#8221; who said that the only place for an adult is in an office. This assumes that the relationship between a man and a woman is the same as between a Swede and a Bulgarian.<br />
    Nonsense.<br />
    The difference in that relationship is accidental.  The difference between a man and a woman is substantive.  It has the power to create children and our future.<br />
    I just sick and tired of people who cannot see the obvious or think.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Roughly 60% of men out of the labor market are not wed, possibly because few women wish to support men.&quot;

Or more broadly, few women want to be married to men who are not good providers. Even successful single women who have high paying careers want to be married to men who are even more successful. It isn&#039;t unreasonable to assert that women generally want to be married to men who are successful enough so that they (the wives) can have the *option* to not work full-time outside the home. 

&quot;While Miki and Teddi thought it &#039;absolutely degrading&#039; to depend financially on a spouse, the truth is that this is a special privilege and still largely a womenâ€™s privilege.&quot;

Absolutely correct.  But what would have been the reaction from their female listeners if Miki and Teddi had said to the gals &quot;Your stay-at-home lifestyle is a financial burden on your husband. Get off your butts, girls, and go get a job!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Roughly 60% of men out of the labor market are not wed, possibly because few women wish to support men.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or more broadly, few women want to be married to men who are not good providers. Even successful single women who have high paying careers want to be married to men who are even more successful. It isn&#8217;t unreasonable to assert that women generally want to be married to men who are successful enough so that they (the wives) can have the *option* to not work full-time outside the home. </p>
<p>&#8220;While Miki and Teddi thought it &#8216;absolutely degrading&#8217; to depend financially on a spouse, the truth is that this is a special privilege and still largely a womenâ€™s privilege.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely correct.  But what would have been the reaction from their female listeners if Miki and Teddi had said to the gals &#8220;Your stay-at-home lifestyle is a financial burden on your husband. Get off your butts, girls, and go get a job!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is a &quot;pension&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is a &#8220;pension&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: tasmaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>tasmaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Career?!? I&#039;ve had three and am working on my fourth at 52! Anyone who tells you about careers with a straight face is lying to you.
BTW thats:
1. Farmer/Construction -put myself through engineering school. Can&#039;t do that any more because wages haven&#039;t changed in 30 years.
2. Aerospace engineer - downsized in the late 80s
3. Software developer - roadwarrior until 2002
4. Education - after thirty years experience I need to go to school to teach. Even though I have 6 years university and community college experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Career?!? I&#8217;ve had three and am working on my fourth at 52! Anyone who tells you about careers with a straight face is lying to you.<br />
BTW thats:<br />
1. Farmer/Construction -put myself through engineering school. Can&#8217;t do that any more because wages haven&#8217;t changed in 30 years.<br />
2. Aerospace engineer &#8211; downsized in the late 80s<br />
3. Software developer &#8211; roadwarrior until 2002<br />
4. Education &#8211; after thirty years experience I need to go to school to teach. Even though I have 6 years university and community college experience.</p>
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		<title>By: ggreen67</title>
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		<dc:creator>ggreen67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That 13% number seems kind of high. I wonder if they are counting prisoners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That 13% number seems kind of high. I wonder if they are counting prisoners?</p>
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