Comments on: Muslim Who Used SUV in Jihad Attack Just ‘Mentally Unstable’ http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/ Men's Rights Activism, MRA Politics, Analysis, Commentary and Global News Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:52:03 -1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: whraglyn http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17125 whraglyn Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:20:27 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17125 Newsray said: 'whraglyn, Not all muslims are terrorists, but for the last 40 years or so, almost all terrorists are muslim. This is spectacularly wrong. The Irish Republican Army were and are Catholics. The Tamil Tigers are Hindus. Timothy McVeigh was some sort of nominal at least Christian.' How many IRA killers are there now? A handful. How many at their peak? A few hundred at most. How many the have they killed over 40 years? A few hundred at most, mostly other thugs on the other side of The Line. How geographically extensive were, and are, their cowardly terror acts? Limited mostly to isolated incidents in England, with a tiny few blocks of Northern Ireland under their terror rule. How does that compare to the number and effects of the overall Islamic terror front worldwide the last 40 years? Statistically insignificantly. As for the 'Tamil Tigers', do you mean the LTTE as they are now? The Sinhalese domninated Sri Lankan government has de-listed the LTTE as a terrorist organization, and has lifted all Gov. bans and proscriptions. Do you mean the historical actions of the precursors of the LTTE, such as the TNT? They fought against government, military, and police targets, as do the LTTE. Civilian deaths tend to be collateral rather than targeted. They wear military uniforms, and are ordered and ranked in and as military units. They remain in almost continual dialogue with the government, and there has been a working cease-fire in effect since 2001, with Norway as the mediator, and each party recognizing the authority of the other to represent the interests of the client people(s). Does that seem to you in any way similar to the filth who work death in the name of Allah? Indeed, the deaths of many thousands of innocent Tamils at the hands of Sinhalese mobs avenging the deaths of individual policemen or soldiers by the LTTE appears a far worse terror trend than the LTTE operations themselves. The similarity to our Founding Fathers' fight for self-determination is as clear as it is in stark contrast to the disorganized punk-murderers of Islamic terror 'organizations'. And finally, McVeigh's claim to Christianity has been excoriated by every Christian leader. His isolated terror is no more a trend in Christian society than is 'The Passion Of The Christ' a trend in Hollywood filmmaking. How does that compare with the many thousands of muslim mullahs who spew hate and encourage children to kill themselves by murdering innocents, and do so from the 'pulpit' of the mosques and the lecterns of the madrassahs? Can you name the Christian governments which are holding telethons to raise money to give to Christian families whose children elect death, such as Saudi Arabia did last year? Can you name the Christian nations which openly declare in the Name of Christ their national will to destroy utterly all muslims, or to push muslim nations into the sea, or to destroy the muslim faith as offensive to Christ? Which Christian nation gives hundreds of millions annually to Christian terror organizations workding to kill all muslims if they won't convert to Christianity? You know, as do Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and until a year or so ago, Libya? It appears the only 'spectacularly wrong' assertions were made in your attempted rebuttal. And, just as a BTW: Although Ann Coulter was writing satirically when shortly after 9/11 she said: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity." I agreed with that sentiment then, and I think that is the only long term solution to the problem. But, being a Christian, I have the obligation to respect the beliefs of others, and to help them free themselves of tyranny whether terrorist or dictatorial government. And that, my friend, is the basis of the difference between the Christian West and Islam. That is why they want to kill us all, and we want only to help them build liberty around the world. Newsray said:
‘whraglyn,
Not all muslims are terrorists, but for the last 40 years or so, almost all terrorists are muslim.

This is spectacularly wrong.

The Irish Republican Army were and are Catholics.

The Tamil Tigers are Hindus.

Timothy McVeigh was some sort of nominal at least Christian.’

How many IRA killers are there now?
A handful.

How many at their peak?
A few hundred at most.

How many the have they killed over 40 years?
A few hundred at most, mostly other thugs on the other side of The Line.

How geographically extensive were, and are, their cowardly terror acts?
Limited mostly to isolated incidents in England, with a tiny few blocks of Northern Ireland under their terror rule.

How does that compare to the number and effects of the overall Islamic terror front worldwide the last 40 years?
Statistically insignificantly.

As for the ‘Tamil Tigers’, do you mean the LTTE as they are now?
The Sinhalese domninated Sri Lankan government has de-listed the LTTE as a terrorist organization, and has lifted all Gov. bans and proscriptions.

Do you mean the historical actions of the precursors of the LTTE, such as the TNT?

They fought against government, military, and police targets, as do the LTTE.
Civilian deaths tend to be collateral rather than targeted.
They wear military uniforms, and are ordered and ranked in and as military units.

They remain in almost continual dialogue with the government, and there has been a working cease-fire in effect since 2001, with Norway as the mediator, and each party recognizing the authority of the other to represent the interests of the client people(s).

Does that seem to you in any way similar to the filth who work death in the name of Allah?

Indeed, the deaths of many thousands of innocent Tamils at the hands of Sinhalese mobs avenging the deaths of individual policemen or soldiers by the LTTE appears a far worse terror trend than the LTTE operations themselves.

The similarity to our Founding Fathers’ fight for self-determination is as clear as it is in stark contrast to the disorganized punk-murderers of Islamic terror ‘organizations’.

And finally, McVeigh’s claim to Christianity has been excoriated by every Christian leader.

His isolated terror is no more a trend in Christian society than is ‘The Passion Of The Christ’ a trend in Hollywood filmmaking.

How does that compare with the many thousands of muslim mullahs who spew hate and encourage children to kill themselves by murdering innocents, and do so from the ‘pulpit’ of the mosques and the lecterns of the madrassahs?

Can you name the Christian governments which are holding telethons to raise money to give to Christian families whose children elect death, such as Saudi Arabia did last year?

Can you name the Christian nations which openly declare in the Name of Christ their national will to destroy utterly all muslims, or to push muslim nations into the sea, or to destroy the muslim faith as offensive to Christ?

Which Christian nation gives hundreds of millions annually to Christian terror organizations workding to kill all muslims if they won’t convert to Christianity?

You know, as do Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and until a year or so ago, Libya?

It appears the only ’spectacularly wrong’ assertions were made in your attempted rebuttal.

And, just as a BTW:
Although Ann Coulter was writing satirically when shortly after 9/11 she said:
“We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.”

I agreed with that sentiment then, and I think that is the only long term solution to the problem.

But, being a Christian, I have the obligation to respect the beliefs of others, and to help them free themselves of tyranny whether terrorist or dictatorial government.

And that, my friend, is the basis of the difference between the Christian West and Islam.

That is why they want to kill us all, and we want only to help them build liberty around the world.

]]> By: randyf http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17095 randyf Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:00:32 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17095 Once again, you pompous monstrousity of an ignorant slimeball, you can't go on facts. Great Britian, Spain, and Bali are US territories? US mainland? They weren't protecting themselves. The last time I checked, they were attacked by MUSLIMS, not CArl Rove or Bush, something you just keep ignoring. Many people who have fought feel like I do. Look, I'm going to die. Most probably, a lot sooner than you. But no women really fought for the US in WW2, and many men didn't. So, should we be speaking Japaness or German? You pick. History isn't your strong suite. Niether is logic. Or human nature. Other than cowardice. Are you sure you graduated? 45,000 people will DIE on the US roads this year. Or there abouts. Should we all stop driving, my short-witted, fear-driven mongrel? I'm not playing nice with people that will destroy our nation, like you. You want to take on Bush in immigration, his spending, social programs, his being too nice to the enemy, then we'll talk. But the necessity to stop Muslim fanactical aggression I will NOT play nice with. Once again, you pompous monstrousity of an ignorant slimeball, you can’t go on facts. Great Britian, Spain, and Bali are US territories? US mainland? They weren’t protecting themselves. The last time I checked, they were attacked by MUSLIMS, not CArl Rove or Bush, something you just keep ignoring.

Many people who have fought feel like I do. Look, I’m going to die. Most probably, a lot sooner than you. But no women really fought for the US in WW2, and many men didn’t. So, should we be speaking Japaness or German? You pick.

History isn’t your strong suite. Niether is logic. Or human nature. Other than cowardice. Are you sure you graduated?

45,000 people will DIE on the US roads this year. Or there abouts. Should we all stop driving, my short-witted, fear-driven mongrel?

I’m not playing nice with people that will destroy our nation, like you. You want to take on Bush in immigration, his spending, social programs, his being too nice to the enemy, then we’ll talk. But the necessity to stop Muslim fanactical aggression I will NOT play nice with.

]]> By: rastus http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17093 rastus Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:40:45 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17093 Let's please keep in mind that the Inquisition was begun in Spain, in large part as a reaction to the Muslim occupation that they'd only just overthrown. The goal of ferreting out lingering Muslim sentiment and activism was unfortunately taken to extremes, though I suspect that happend more because those in charge didn't want to lose their positions of power once the Muslim threat was discovered to be minimal, not because of their religious fervor. As for Sharia law being enforced in the U.S., know that there are already Muslim communities in Canada that are demanding precisely that, and one Detroit neighborhood's Muslim majority has been agitating for such a change as well. They have already implemented a loudspeaker-broadcast call to prayer 5 times a day. Similar demands are cropping up all over Europe. As their population grows in numbers and influence, the demands increase. Hide your head in the sand at your own peril. Let’s please keep in mind that the Inquisition was begun in Spain, in large part as a reaction to the Muslim occupation that they’d only just overthrown. The goal of ferreting out lingering Muslim sentiment and activism was unfortunately taken to extremes, though I suspect that happend more because those in charge didn’t want to lose their positions of power once the Muslim threat was discovered to be minimal, not because of their religious fervor.

As for Sharia law being enforced in the U.S., know that there are already Muslim communities in Canada that are demanding precisely that, and one Detroit neighborhood’s Muslim majority has been agitating for such a change as well. They have already implemented a loudspeaker-broadcast call to prayer 5 times a day. Similar demands are cropping up all over Europe. As their population grows in numbers and influence, the demands increase.

Hide your head in the sand at your own peril.

]]> By: randyf http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17091 randyf Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:20:51 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17091 Clearmind, (for you, an oxymoron) your just ignorant of reality. Rule #1: Everything, and everybody, alive, dies. Being a coward doesn't change that. 2) Hitler existed. So did Imperial Japan. So does the idiot in Tehran. Muslim fascists exist. THEY TELL YOU they want to kill you. We see the brutality and aggression world wide. The Sudan, Isreal-Palestine, Kosovo, Pakastan, Iraq, Asian-Pacific, India, London, France, Spain, Saudi Arabia, the US. All have been attacked in the last 10 years. Most multiple times. HAD YOU studied in college, and really paid attention to the numbers, you would have seen: 5 million dead after the US pullout, economic basketcases until today in Vietnam for it's people, as well neighboring states as Cambodia, and a backward standard of living for thier people. Funny, but you cowards NEVER think of the ramifications of cut-and-run. World War 2 was a lesson in dealing with fanaticism: kill whole cities, decimate the population if necessary. Real shock and awe: Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki. This was done under FDR and Truman, not rabid Republicans. Had it not been done, the world would be much different now. You take freedom for granted, and assume that the evil deal-makers really control everything, there's just no way Muslims could do that much damage! Look, it's probably no more than 2-10 percent of the Muslim population that is really a problem. The only thing is, that's 20 million plus people world wide, minimum. Real power, my ignoramous, comes at the end of a barrel. That's why Kofi wants only the Lebonese army to have weapons. Even he admits that talk is cheap, in his own perverse way. What good is a strong military if it doesn't protect people? Jackass, we haven't been hit in nearly 5 YEARS. The "Cowboy" has done something right. And we still have lost more in ONE DAY on Sept. 11th than the whole war of Iraq. And you better damn well hope that there are few "cowboys" left, either that, or start turning toward Mecca, dumb---. Clearmind, (for you, an oxymoron) your just ignorant of reality. Rule #1: Everything, and everybody, alive, dies. Being a coward doesn’t change that. 2) Hitler existed. So did Imperial Japan. So does the idiot in Tehran. Muslim fascists exist. THEY TELL YOU they want to kill you. We see the brutality and aggression world wide. The Sudan, Isreal-Palestine, Kosovo, Pakastan, Iraq, Asian-Pacific, India, London, France, Spain, Saudi Arabia, the US. All have been attacked in the last 10 years. Most multiple times.

HAD YOU studied in college, and really paid attention to the numbers, you would have seen: 5 million dead after the US pullout, economic basketcases until today in Vietnam for it’s people, as well neighboring states as Cambodia, and a backward standard of living for thier people. Funny, but you cowards NEVER think of the ramifications of cut-and-run.

World War 2 was a lesson in dealing with fanaticism: kill whole cities, decimate the population if necessary. Real shock and awe: Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki. This was done under FDR and Truman, not rabid Republicans.

Had it not been done, the world would be much different now.

You take freedom for granted, and assume that the evil deal-makers really control everything, there’s just no way Muslims could do that much damage!

Look, it’s probably no more than 2-10 percent of the Muslim population that is really a problem. The only thing is, that’s 20 million plus people world wide, minimum.

Real power, my ignoramous, comes at the end of a barrel. That’s why Kofi wants only the Lebonese army to have weapons. Even he admits that talk is cheap, in his own perverse way.

What good is a strong military if it doesn’t protect people? Jackass, we haven’t been hit in nearly 5 YEARS. The “Cowboy” has done something right. And we still have lost more in ONE DAY on Sept. 11th than the whole war of Iraq.

And you better damn well hope that there are few “cowboys” left, either that, or start turning toward Mecca, dumb—.

]]> By: Roger Knight http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17086 Roger Knight Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:45:40 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17086 clearmind, here's the deal: The Inquisition and the Crusades occurred hundreds of years ago. The "heathen Indians" were not wiped out, the tribes are still here, and it is probable that most Americans have some Native ancestry. Natives often married whites and many of their their children and descendents are not counted among the tribes. I once knew of an Apache who claimed Geronimo as an ancestor working for Boeing making airplanes because he felt that was a better life than sitting in a shack on the reservation in the desert living off of small government and tribal checks! Imagine that! The Native race joining the new civilization instead of wallowing in pity for losing control of the continent! Whoda thunk? Ask any Mexican if he would trade his Catholic religion for the Native beliefs in gods and goddesses that had to be appeased with thousands of human sacrifices! Having one's heart cut out with a big flint knife and then thrown down the pyramid steps appeals to me as much as being stoned to death with rocks not big enough to kill me right away for violating some protocol of Sharia. And yes, Jews did not create Israel with polite letters written to politicians and judges! But all of that was then, this is now. White guilt and hand-wringing are luxuries wa cannot afford. Should we lose this new World War, the New Caliphate will offer all of us, white, black, East Asian, Native American, or any combination thereof, the same three choices regardless of our race and ancestry: 1. Convert to Islam and join the New Caliphate as full Muslim citizens fully bound AND LIMITED by Sharia Law. 2. Accept status as dhimmies with all kinds of humilitaing and disgusting restrictions on our lives, and still be bound by Sharia Law. 3. Die. Once you accept Choice No. 1, even if it was forced at the point of a gun as with these Fox News reporters, any re-conversion back to your own religion will become Choice No. 3. You violate the dhimmie rules, again, Choice No. 3. Any homosexuality, even a false accusation, can result in Choice No. 3. Same with any sexual activity outside the privacy of the tent. Any woman who wants to work to support herself or exposes even an ankle can be presented with Choice No. 3. Same if she accuses a man of rape and does not have four male witnesses to back up her story. Without proof of rape she admitted to adultery or whoring. Choice No. 3 can be accomplished my means of small rocks thrown at her head while she is buried up to her neck. Now if this future under the New Caliphate does not appeal to you, might I suggest you drop all of your fuzzy headed white guilt notions and GET WITH THE PROGRAM! The rest of us could use your help in defending our civilization and way of life, and we are tired of your white guilt bellyacheing about shit that happened in the past. clearmind, here’s the deal:
The Inquisition and the Crusades occurred hundreds of years ago. The “heathen Indians” were not wiped out, the tribes are still here, and it is probable that most Americans have some Native ancestry. Natives often married whites and many of their their children and descendents are not counted among the tribes. I once knew of an Apache who claimed Geronimo as an ancestor working for Boeing making airplanes because he felt that was a better life than sitting in a shack on the reservation in the desert living off of small government and tribal checks! Imagine that! The Native race joining the new civilization instead of wallowing in pity for losing control of the continent!
Whoda thunk?
Ask any Mexican if he would trade his Catholic religion for the Native beliefs in gods and goddesses that had to be appeased with thousands of human sacrifices! Having one’s heart cut out with a big flint knife and then thrown down the pyramid steps appeals to me as much as being stoned to death with rocks not big enough to kill me right away for violating some protocol of Sharia.
And yes, Jews did not create Israel with polite letters written to politicians and judges!
But all of that was then, this is now. White guilt and hand-wringing are luxuries wa cannot afford.
Should we lose this new World War, the New Caliphate will offer all of us, white, black, East Asian, Native American, or any combination thereof, the same three choices regardless of our race and ancestry:
1. Convert to Islam and join the New Caliphate as full Muslim citizens fully bound AND LIMITED by Sharia Law.
2. Accept status as dhimmies with all kinds of humilitaing and disgusting restrictions on our lives, and still be bound by Sharia Law.
3. Die.
Once you accept Choice No. 1, even if it was forced at the point of a gun as with these Fox News reporters, any re-conversion back to your own religion will become Choice No. 3.
You violate the dhimmie rules, again, Choice No. 3.
Any homosexuality, even a false accusation, can result in Choice No. 3. Same with any sexual activity outside the privacy of the tent. Any woman who wants to work to support herself or exposes even an ankle can be presented with Choice No. 3. Same if she accuses a man of rape and does not have four male witnesses to back up her story. Without proof of rape she admitted to adultery or whoring. Choice No. 3 can be accomplished my means of small rocks thrown at her head while she is buried up to her neck.
Now if this future under the New Caliphate does not appeal to you, might I suggest you drop all of your fuzzy headed white guilt notions and GET WITH THE PROGRAM! The rest of us could use your help in defending our civilization and way of life, and we are tired of your white guilt bellyacheing about shit that happened in the past.

]]> By: newsray http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17084 newsray Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:41:27 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17084 whraglyn, <em>Not all muslims are terrorists, but for the last 40 years or so, almost all terrorists are muslim.</em> This is spectacularly wrong. The Irish Republican Army were and are Catholics. The Tamil Tigers are Hindus. Timothy McVeigh was some sort of nominal at least Christian. whraglyn,

Not all muslims are terrorists, but for the last 40 years or so, almost all terrorists are muslim.

This is spectacularly wrong.

The Irish Republican Army were and are Catholics.

The Tamil Tigers are Hindus.

Timothy McVeigh was some sort of nominal at least Christian.

]]> By: whraglyn http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17080 whraglyn Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:50:10 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17080 clearmind, According to eyewitnesses, the man shouted out his terrorist intent at the scene. Even accepting that need not weaken your premise, my friend. Simply accept the fact that Islam breeds such 'mental instability' as a product of organic flaws in the nature of Islam, and we can all agree. Not all muslims are terrorists, but for the last 40 years or so, almost all terrorists are muslim. Trite? Perhaps. Still true, though. clearmind,
According to eyewitnesses, the man shouted out his terrorist intent at the scene.

Even accepting that need not weaken your premise, my friend.

Simply accept the fact that Islam breeds such ‘mental instability’ as a product of organic flaws in the nature of Islam, and we can all agree.

Not all muslims are terrorists, but for the last 40 years or so, almost all terrorists are muslim.

Trite? Perhaps.

Still true, though.

]]> By: Greg http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17075 Greg Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:19:56 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17075 Religion of peace, my ass. Where's some evidence of this? Mustn't hurt the tender muslum feelings by stating the obvious. they might get angry and riot (see France). Actually I believe one of the angles is that he was distraught over his arranged marriage. Seems reasonable.... Religion of peace, my ass. Where’s some evidence of this? Mustn’t hurt the tender muslum feelings by stating the obvious. they might get angry and riot (see France). Actually I believe one of the angles is that he was distraught over his arranged marriage. Seems reasonable….

]]> By: jsriolo http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-17073 jsriolo Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:02:30 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/08/31/jihadist-who-used-suv-in-attack-called-%e2%80%9cmentally-unstable%e2%80%9d/#comment-17073 Unbelievable. I wonder what they would be saying if I, a white male, started taking back Dearborn from the Jihadists. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

I wonder what they would be saying if I, a white male, started taking back Dearborn from the Jihadists.

Unbelievable.

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