Comments on: Ordinary Saints http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/ Men's Rights Activism, MRA Politics, Analysis, Commentary and Global News Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:37:06 -1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: BG http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/comment-page-1/#comment-17653 BG Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:42:00 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/#comment-17653 Got it. Got it.

]]> By: Roger Knight http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/comment-page-1/#comment-17647 Roger Knight Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:46:00 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/#comment-17647 Hoax Buster is a laugh and a half! My favorite phony Egyptian story involves a popular Black Studies and Freemason contention: That the pharoahs rode around in hang gliders. It was Thutmosis VI. What? You never heard of Thutmosis VI? Well, they were kind of embarassed by him, like they were of Ahkenaten. Which is like saying the Romans were embarrassed by Caligula. But unlike the Romans with Caligula, the Egyptians managed to keep Thutmosis VI off their king lists. What happened was he built a hang glider. Three straight stickes of wood connected by a steel bracket, over which was streatched a sail of canvas. He would jump off the Pyramids and fly around. Not the most dignified behavior in a Pharoah, but he's Pharoah, what can you do? One day, instead of flying around the Pyramids, he flew right INTO the Pyramids. His body was too badly broken up for a decent mummification! That story makes as much sense as the Bible is Phony Because Egyptians Did Similar Things story told at Hoax Buster. The problem with religion is the same old one: People will believe in God because they cannot accept the Universe is just is, and will believe in ghosts and either an afterlife or reincarnation because they cannot accept death is just death. Unfortunately such faith is prone to abuse by those who want to use it for obtaining wealth without producing something tangible for it and for obtaining political type power. Thus the "My Way or the Afterlife Highway" attitude of those who claim to represent God on Earth. And they will send you on to the Afterlife Highway if you disagree with them! Hoax Buster is a laugh and a half! My favorite phony Egyptian story involves a popular Black Studies and Freemason contention: That the pharoahs rode around in hang gliders. It was Thutmosis VI. What? You never heard of Thutmosis VI? Well, they were kind of embarassed by him, like they were of Ahkenaten. Which is like saying the Romans were embarrassed by Caligula. But unlike the Romans with Caligula, the Egyptians managed to keep Thutmosis VI off their king lists. What happened was he built a hang glider. Three straight stickes of wood connected by a steel bracket, over which was streatched a sail of canvas. He would jump off the Pyramids and fly around. Not the most dignified behavior in a Pharoah, but he’s Pharoah, what can you do? One day, instead of flying around the Pyramids, he flew right INTO the Pyramids.
His body was too badly broken up for a decent mummification!
That story makes as much sense as the Bible is Phony Because Egyptians Did Similar Things story told at Hoax Buster.
The problem with religion is the same old one: People will believe in God because they cannot accept the Universe is just is, and will believe in ghosts and either an afterlife or reincarnation because they cannot accept death is just death.
Unfortunately such faith is prone to abuse by those who want to use it for obtaining wealth without producing something tangible for it and for obtaining political type power. Thus the “My Way or the Afterlife Highway” attitude of those who claim to represent God on Earth. And they will send you on to the Afterlife Highway if you disagree with them!

]]> By: BG http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/comment-page-1/#comment-17640 BG Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:35:14 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/#comment-17640 Roger, you said everything except history repeats itself but not exactly. And, you also noted that people were burned at the stake for non approved views of the universe. You know protestants kept on doing that and still are doing that with Salem witch trials and now "Intellegent Design" etc. They just don't have the power to burn anyone at the stake at the present time but their power is growing. Maybe there's something fundamentally wrong with religion anywhere, not just in government. Don't you wonder what it is? Have you seen http://www.hoax-buster.org Roger, you said everything except history repeats itself but not exactly. And, you also noted that people were burned at the stake for non approved views of the universe. You know protestants kept on doing that and still are doing that with Salem witch trials and now “Intellegent Design” etc. They just don’t have the power to burn anyone at the stake at the present time but their power is growing. Maybe there’s something fundamentally wrong with religion anywhere, not just in government. Don’t you wonder what it is?

Have you seen http://www.hoax-buster.org

]]> By: Roger Knight http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/comment-page-1/#comment-17629 Roger Knight Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:46:16 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/09/11/ordinary-saints/#comment-17629 However, let us not forget that to this day, non-Catholics in Britain celebrate November 5, Guy Fawkes Day, as the anniversary of a victory over terrorism. It was on that day in 1605 that the Gunpowder Plot was thwarted and Parliament and the Scottish King were saved. Fawkes and his co-conspirators loaded over 5,000 pounds of gunpowder into storage units they rented underneath the Houses of Parliament. The idea was to time the explosion to when King James was giving the speech to open Parliament. The place would have been packed with every serving MP, the Royal Family and every other high ranking person who was able to get a ticket. Had the bomb gone off, the Houses of Parliament and the surrounding area would have been as utterly destroyed as the World Trade Center in New York in 2001. With the government murdered, the impact would have been more devastating on the Great Britain then recently formed by the union of Scotland and England through the placement of the Scottish King on the English throne. The Protestant movement was a Christian movement for independence from the Church in Rome, and in England, Wales and Scotland, national independence from any European controlled ecclesiastical heirarchy. The non-Catholic British viewed Catholics with suspicion because of this political dispute. They felt that where there are too many Catholics, there is tyranny from Rome. Tyranny as in burning people like Giordarno Bruno at the stake for postulating that the distant stars were Suns with planets orbiting, and that some of those planets might be Earthlike and have people looking back at us. That kind of tyranny. Thus the laws discriminating against Catholics that Guy Fawkes was fighting with the Gunpowder Plot. Today, we are threatened with the imposition of a new form of religious tyranny in the form of sharia fascism imposed by the New Caliphate through planetary jihad. On September 11, 2001, October 12, 2002, March 11, 2004 and July 7, 2005, these jihadists were more successful than Guy Fawkes and his gang. Please forgive me not considering that those who perpetrate this modern terrorism and their supporters as saints, and because of this I do not consider Nicholas Owen a saint. The solution to what the Catholics in England and the non-Catholics were experiencing in the rest of Europe was the one proposed by Thomas Jefferson and the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, and enshrined in the First Amendment: Complete separation of church and state and the ban on religious tests for public office. How else can a nation with Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish citizens live without religious strife? Unfortunately, to include Muslim citizens in the mix they have accept the equality before the law of the non-Muslims, and not support a Jihad to impose sharia fascism on the Infidel. Otherwise we cannot trust them anymore than the 1605 British could trust Catholics. However, let us not forget that to this day, non-Catholics in Britain celebrate November 5, Guy Fawkes Day, as the anniversary of a victory over terrorism. It was on that day in 1605 that the Gunpowder Plot was thwarted and Parliament and the Scottish King were saved.
Fawkes and his co-conspirators loaded over 5,000 pounds of gunpowder into storage units they rented underneath the Houses of Parliament. The idea was to time the explosion to when King James was giving the speech to open Parliament. The place would have been packed with every serving MP, the Royal Family and every other high ranking person who was able to get a ticket.
Had the bomb gone off, the Houses of Parliament and the surrounding area would have been as utterly destroyed as the World Trade Center in New York in 2001. With the government murdered, the impact would have been more devastating on the Great Britain then recently formed by the union of Scotland and England through the placement of the Scottish King on the English throne.
The Protestant movement was a Christian movement for independence from the Church in Rome, and in England, Wales and Scotland, national independence from any European controlled ecclesiastical heirarchy. The non-Catholic British viewed Catholics with suspicion because of this political dispute. They felt that where there are too many Catholics, there is tyranny from Rome.
Tyranny as in burning people like Giordarno Bruno at the stake for postulating that the distant stars were Suns with planets orbiting, and that some of those planets might be Earthlike and have people looking back at us.
That kind of tyranny.
Thus the laws discriminating against Catholics that Guy Fawkes was fighting with the Gunpowder Plot.
Today, we are threatened with the imposition of a new form of religious tyranny in the form of sharia fascism imposed by the New Caliphate through planetary jihad. On September 11, 2001, October 12, 2002, March 11, 2004 and July 7, 2005, these jihadists were more successful than Guy Fawkes and his gang.
Please forgive me not considering that those who perpetrate this modern terrorism and their supporters as saints, and because of this I do not consider Nicholas Owen a saint.
The solution to what the Catholics in England and the non-Catholics were experiencing in the rest of Europe was the one proposed by Thomas Jefferson and the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, and enshrined in the First Amendment: Complete separation of church and state and the ban on religious tests for public office. How else can a nation with Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish citizens live without religious strife?
Unfortunately, to include Muslim citizens in the mix they have accept the equality before the law of the non-Muslims, and not support a Jihad to impose sharia fascism on the Infidel. Otherwise we cannot trust them anymore than the 1605 British could trust Catholics.

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