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Muslims outraged by Pope Benedict’s comments; here we go again

2006-09-15
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Here we go again with another outburst from the Religion of Perpetual Outrage.  Muslims worldwide are angry again, this time at (Can you guess who?  Drum roll, please. . .) the pope!

Muslims are angry over some remarks made by Pope Benedict XVI during a lecture at a German university.  The Vatican later said that the pope did not intend the remarks to be offensive, but you know how that goes.  Anyway, here are some excerpts from the speech.  As a sort of amusing exercise, see if you can pick out the parts that, once again, have Muslims worldwide having conniption fits.

I was reminded of all this recently, when I read… of part of the dialogue carried on – perhaps in 1391 in the winter barracks near Ankara – by the erudite Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Paleologus and an educated Persian on the subject of Christianity and Islam, and the truth of both.

In the seventh conversation…the emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the “Book” and the “infidels”, he addresses his interlocutor with a startling brusqueness on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying: “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. “God,” he says, “is not pleased by blood – and not acting reasonably is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats.”

Sounds kinda like the pope was basically saying that violent jihad might not be a particularly good thing.  What could be more infuriating than that, especially coming from a pointy-headed chief infidel?  As my grandmother used to say, it’s enough to make an imam — er, I mean, a preacher — cuss.

Reaction from various imams, clerics and other Islamic authority figures continues to pour in now.  Here are a few choice comments:

“He has a dark mentality that comes from the darkness of the Middle Ages. . . .  It looks like an effort to revive the mentality of the Crusades.”  So said Salih Kapusuz, deputy leader of the Turkish prime minister’s party.

Sure, sure, it’s the Crusades all over again.  Anyone can see that.

Or how about this from Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam:  “What he had done is that he has quoted very offensive remarks by some emperor hundreds of years ago.  It is not helpful (because) we have been trying to bridge the gap, calling for dialogue and understanding between religions.”

Really?  I must have missed that call for dialogue and understanding in between the alleged Gitmo Koran-flushing riots and the Mohammad cartoon riots.  I’ll have to pay better attention from now on.

Ms. Aslam went on to say that Muslims had a long history of tolerance, adding that when the Catholic kingdom of Spain expelled its Jewish population in 1492 they were welcomed by Muslim nations such as the Turkish Ottoman Empire.

Well, they’re not very welcome now, are they?  Iran’s President Ahmadgenocide — er, excuse me, Ahmadinejad — wants to wipe that tiny little Zionist regime off the map and the funny thing is, I haven’t heard anything about the Muslim masses protesting his intolerance of Jews.

But maybe the best comment of all came, once again, from the same silver-tongued spokeswoman:  “Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence.”

Wait a minute.  If Islam was actually tolerant as the good lady says, then the mere description of it as intolerant wouldn’t encourage violence, would it?  Doesn’t her statement actually confirm the very thing she is denying, which is the intolerance of Islam?

There I go again, trying to make logical points about something that was said by a representative of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage.  Talk about an exercise in futility.

As of this writing, it remains to be seen if riots will break out around the world as they usually do when someone offends Islamic sensibilities.  We can only hope for the pope’s sake that no one takes to heart one of the placards that was being displayed during the last round of riots: “BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM.”

Greg Strange provides conservative commentary with plenty of acerbic wit on the people, politics, events and absurdities of our time. See more at his website: http://www.greg-strange.com/

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  • Denis

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Just as Hitler was able to come to power in Germany due to the economic chaos caused by the treaty the Germans were forced to sign by the allies after at the end of WWI…So too did Saddam rise to power as a result of the chaos formented by the CIA in Iraq…

    Denis replied:

    The CIA did not foment chaos resulting in Saddam’s rise to power. Also, he murdered his way to the top. That is provable. Your position is not.

    Mr. Pinga did not wish to try and prove his point further.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    It was after all Ronald Reagan (the false god who gave us no fault divorce of extreme right wing nuts) who sold Saddam the poison gas he used on the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq war…

    Denis replied:

    The U.S. under Reagan or any other U.S. administration never sold Saddam poison gas. That is provable. Your position is not.

    Mr. Pinga did not wish to try and prove his point further.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    By placing America on a pedestal and worshiping her as a goddess (just as they do women) while claiming that she has never and will never do no wrong…That each and every act by those within the American govenment in regards to foreign policy no matter how immoral is justified…

    Conservatives show just how much they have in common with the cowardly feminists and liberals that insist that females have all the rights but none of the responibilities…

    Denis replied:

    Many men here are not Republican’s. There is as must criticism of those chivilrous traditionalists as there are of liberals. We do see the threat of feminism. Glad to see a few of you liberals are finally “getting it” too. I suspect most here are Independents.

    Finally, I have a lot of problems with Republican’s and not only the Democrats. Afterall, the Republican’s voted for the VAWA as much as the Democrats. I have big problems with Bush except for the war on terrorism and the Supreme Court nominations. I disagree with Democrats on virtually everything. We have a two party system. Feminists are the dominant force in the Democratic party and any man that votes for them is voting against himself 100% of the time. Third parties to date have had little impact besides taking enough votes from one side to let the other side win. Therefore I believe in working within that reality. Those Democrats who are Kool-Aid free and see the dangers of feminism should look at their own party. The age 30 and under female vote is reliably Democratic. The Republican’s and Democrat’s both work to win over this demographic. In the process BOTH screw over men. The Democrats (liberals) give this demograhic ever more freebies at the expense of men. The Republican’s (traditionalists) also work to give this demographic freebies at the expense of men to get their vote. The key to neutralizing this threat to men (in each case)is to move the age 30 and under female vote from the Democrat column to the Republican column. I don’t say this out of any love for Republican’s. Where are they going to go? A third party? Read text above. If they vote Republican the traditionalists will no longer have to screw the men to win the women and the liberals will no longer be able to screw the men to get the women’s vote. Will this happen. Not likely in the near future.

    Mr Pinga replied:

    Logic is definitely not their strong suit and they are like my Dad used to be and my brothers are today…Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…In order to massage their bruised male egos and prove to themselves that they are the man…

    Mr. Pinga-Actually we only stomp on males (if you really are males-you exhibit too much emotionalism that we sometimes forget you claim to be males)who say things they can’t back up, keep avoiding challenges to their thinking, and who make subsequent accusations that we have refuted earlier.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Growing up history was a hobby of mine…

    I’m glad it was only a hobby. You would not be able to make a living at it. You can’t back up any of your positions. The problem with logic, as any rational person reading this thread can see, is not your strength.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    BTW After giving in repeatedly to my stepmothers whims throughout the years my father, who was a successful Chiropractor, died from an STD infection intentionally passed on to him by one of my stepmothers…

    Denis said: (to himself)

    WTF?! huh?

    Mr. Pinga did not reply but continued with:

    Many years ago our own military leaders considered sponsoring terrorist acts against the unsuspecting American people in order to garner popular support for their agenda…Fortunately they abandoned that dispecible idea…

    Guys like Will, Denis, Hal and Squiggy whose eyes can not see and itching ears can not hear anything except for what they want to see and hear…Are little better that useful idiots for the Talirepublicans and conservatives who are also beholden to their female supporters…

    Denis said(to himself):

    female supporters? WTF? huh?

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Take care for your path ends in the lake of fire created for the Devil and His angels at the end of time…

    Denis said (to himself):

    this fucker is nuts

  • Denis

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Just as Hitler was able to come to power in Germany due to the economic chaos caused by the treaty the Germans were forced to sign by the allies after at the end of WWI…So too did Saddam rise to power as a result of the chaos formented by the CIA in Iraq…

    Denis replied:

    The CIA did not foment chaos resulting in Saddam’s rise to power. Also, he murdered his way to the top. That is provable. Your position is not.

    Mr. Pinga did not wish to try and prove his point further.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    It was after all Ronald Reagan (the false god who gave us no fault divorce of extreme right wing nuts) who sold Saddam the poison gas he used on the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq war…

    Denis replied:

    The U.S. under Reagan or any other U.S. administration never sold Saddam poison gas. That is provable. Your position is not.

    Mr. Pinga did not wish to try and prove his point further.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    By placing America on a pedestal and worshiping her as a goddess (just as they do women) while claiming that she has never and will never do no wrong…That each and every act by those within the American govenment in regards to foreign policy no matter how immoral is justified…

    Conservatives show just how much they have in common with the cowardly feminists and liberals that insist that females have all the rights but none of the responibilities…

    Denis replied:

    Many men here are not Republican’s. There is as must criticism of those chivilrous traditionalists as there are of liberals. We do see the threat of feminism. Glad to see a few of you liberals are finally “getting it” too. I suspect most here are Independents.

    Finally, I have a lot of problems with Republican’s and not only the Democrats. Afterall, the Republican’s voted for the VAWA as much as the Democrats. I have big problems with Bush except for the war on terrorism and the Supreme Court nominations. I disagree with Democrats on virtually everything. We have a two party system. Feminists are the dominant force in the Democratic party and any man that votes for them is voting against himself 100% of the time. Third parties to date have had little impact besides taking enough votes from one side to let the other side win. Therefore I believe in working within that reality. Those Democrats who are Kool-Aid free and see the dangers of feminism should look at their own party. The age 30 and under female vote is reliably Democratic. The Republican’s and Democrat’s both work to win over this demographic. In the process BOTH screw over men. The Democrats (liberals) give this demograhic ever more freebies at the expense of men. The Republican’s (traditionalists) also work to give this demographic freebies at the expense of men to get their vote. The key to neutralizing this threat to men (in each case)is to move the age 30 and under female vote from the Democrat column to the Republican column. I don’t say this out of any love for Republican’s. Where are they going to go? A third party? Read text above. If they vote Republican the traditionalists will no longer have to screw the men to win the women and the liberals will no longer be able to screw the men to get the women’s vote. Will this happen. Not likely in the near future.

    Mr Pinga replied:

    Logic is definitely not their strong suit and they are like my Dad used to be and my brothers are today…Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…In order to massage their bruised male egos and prove to themselves that they are the man…

    Mr. Pinga-Actually we only stomp on males (if you really are males-you exhibit too much emotionalism that we sometimes forget you claim to be males)who say things they can’t back up, keep avoiding challenges to their thinking, and who make subsequent accusations that we have refuted earlier.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Growing up history was a hobby of mine…

    I’m glad it was only a hobby. You would not be able to make a living at it. You can’t back up any of your positions. The problem with logic, as any rational person reading this thread can see, is not your strength.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    BTW After giving in repeatedly to my stepmothers whims throughout the years my father, who was a successful Chiropractor, died from an STD infection intentionally passed on to him by one of my stepmothers…

    Denis said: (to himself)

    WTF?! huh?

    Mr. Pinga did not reply but continued with:

    Many years ago our own military leaders considered sponsoring terrorist acts against the unsuspecting American people in order to garner popular support for their agenda…Fortunately they abandoned that dispecible idea…

    Guys like Will, Denis, Hal and Squiggy whose eyes can not see and itching ears can not hear anything except for what they want to see and hear…Are little better that useful idiots for the Talirepublicans and conservatives who are also beholden to their female supporters…

    Denis said(to himself):

    female supporters? WTF? huh?

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Take care for your path ends in the lake of fire created for the Devil and His angels at the end of time…

    Denis said (to himself):

    this fucker is nuts

  • Denis

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Just as Hitler was able to come to power in Germany due to the economic chaos caused by the treaty the Germans were forced to sign by the allies after at the end of WWI…So too did Saddam rise to power as a result of the chaos formented by the CIA in Iraq…

    Denis replied:

    The CIA did not foment chaos resulting in Saddam’s rise to power. Also, he murdered his way to the top. That is provable. Your position is not.

    Mr. Pinga did not wish to try and prove his point further.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    It was after all Ronald Reagan (the false god who gave us no fault divorce of extreme right wing nuts) who sold Saddam the poison gas he used on the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq war…

    Denis replied:

    The U.S. under Reagan or any other U.S. administration never sold Saddam poison gas. That is provable. Your position is not.

    Mr. Pinga did not wish to try and prove his point further.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    By placing America on a pedestal and worshiping her as a goddess (just as they do women) while claiming that she has never and will never do no wrong…That each and every act by those within the American govenment in regards to foreign policy no matter how immoral is justified…

    Conservatives show just how much they have in common with the cowardly feminists and liberals that insist that females have all the rights but none of the responibilities…

    Denis replied:

    Many men here are not Republican’s. There is as must criticism of those chivilrous traditionalists as there are of liberals. We do see the threat of feminism. Glad to see a few of you liberals are finally “getting it” too. I suspect most here are Independents.

    Finally, I have a lot of problems with Republican’s and not only the Democrats. Afterall, the Republican’s voted for the VAWA as much as the Democrats. I have big problems with Bush except for the war on terrorism and the Supreme Court nominations. I disagree with Democrats on virtually everything. We have a two party system. Feminists are the dominant force in the Democratic party and any man that votes for them is voting against himself 100% of the time. Third parties to date have had little impact besides taking enough votes from one side to let the other side win. Therefore I believe in working within that reality. Those Democrats who are Kool-Aid free and see the dangers of feminism should look at their own party. The age 30 and under female vote is reliably Democratic. The Republican’s and Democrat’s both work to win over this demographic. In the process BOTH screw over men. The Democrats (liberals) give this demograhic ever more freebies at the expense of men. The Republican’s (traditionalists) also work to give this demographic freebies at the expense of men to get their vote. The key to neutralizing this threat to men (in each case)is to move the age 30 and under female vote from the Democrat column to the Republican column. I don’t say this out of any love for Republican’s. Where are they going to go? A third party? Read text above. If they vote Republican the traditionalists will no longer have to screw the men to win the women and the liberals will no longer be able to screw the men to get the women’s vote. Will this happen. Not likely in the near future.

    Mr Pinga replied:

    Logic is definitely not their strong suit and they are like my Dad used to be and my brothers are today…Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…In order to massage their bruised male egos and prove to themselves that they are the man…

    Mr. Pinga-Actually we only stomp on males (if you really are males-you exhibit too much emotionalism that we sometimes forget you claim to be males)who say things they can’t back up, keep avoiding challenges to their thinking, and who make subsequent accusations that we have refuted earlier.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Growing up history was a hobby of mine…

    I’m glad it was only a hobby. You would not be able to make a living at it. You can’t back up any of your positions. The problem with logic, as any rational person reading this thread can see, is not your strength.

    Mr. Pinga said:

    BTW After giving in repeatedly to my stepmothers whims throughout the years my father, who was a successful Chiropractor, died from an STD infection intentionally passed on to him by one of my stepmothers…

    Denis said: (to himself)

    WTF?! huh?

    Mr. Pinga did not reply but continued with:

    Many years ago our own military leaders considered sponsoring terrorist acts against the unsuspecting American people in order to garner popular support for their agenda…Fortunately they abandoned that dispecible idea…

    Guys like Will, Denis, Hal and Squiggy whose eyes can not see and itching ears can not hear anything except for what they want to see and hear…Are little better that useful idiots for the Talirepublicans and conservatives who are also beholden to their female supporters…

    Denis said(to himself):

    female supporters? WTF? huh?

    Mr. Pinga said:

    Take care for your path ends in the lake of fire created for the Devil and His angels at the end of time…

    Denis said (to himself):

    this fucker is nuts

  • Squiggy

    Will unless you know someone personally you should refrain from making snap judgements about their lives…

    And yet you know enough about me to condemn me to hell? Wow, that’s some amazing power you control.

    By the way, I’m buying stock in ALCOA, as obviously they’re selling you a lot lately.

  • Squiggy

    Will unless you know someone personally you should refrain from making snap judgements about their lives…

    And yet you know enough about me to condemn me to hell? Wow, that’s some amazing power you control.

    By the way, I’m buying stock in ALCOA, as obviously they’re selling you a lot lately.

  • Squiggy

    Will unless you know someone personally you should refrain from making snap judgements about their lives…

    And yet you know enough about me to condemn me to hell? Wow, that’s some amazing power you control.

    By the way, I’m buying stock in ALCOA, as obviously they’re selling you a lot lately.

  • Denis

    I’m still waiting for one factual and truthful point. That kool-Aid must be pretty strong stuff for you “guys”.

  • Denis

    I’m still waiting for one factual and truthful point. That kool-Aid must be pretty strong stuff for you “guys”.

  • Denis

    I’m still waiting for one factual and truthful point. That kool-Aid must be pretty strong stuff for you “guys”.

  • Mr. Pinga

    Will unless you know someone personally you should refrain from making snap judgements about their lives…

    As it was my Father never left nor divorced any of his wives in spite of my mothers well documented (by her own addmission) acts of adultry…

    My mother and first stepmother left my father when they realized that they could no longer control him…His third wife left when she realized that she could con my dad out of his money wether she was married to him or not…She even went so far as to bare two children from another relationship that she convinced my father was platonic…

    My own mother has been married 8 times and recently divorced her 8th husband on paper in order to apply for her 7th husbands (who is deceased) social security and plans to remarry my current stepfather…

    My fathers primary fault and the cause of his downfall was that like you and those of your ilk…He refused to listen to those who tried to tell him the truth about what was really going on until he was forced to admit it…But only after it was already too late to avoid the fate of an untimely death…

  • Mr. Pinga

    Will unless you know someone personally you should refrain from making snap judgements about their lives…

    As it was my Father never left nor divorced any of his wives in spite of my mothers well documented (by her own addmission) acts of adultry…

    My mother and first stepmother left my father when they realized that they could no longer control him…His third wife left when she realized that she could con my dad out of his money wether she was married to him or not…She even went so far as to bare two children from another relationship that she convinced my father was platonic…

    My own mother has been married 8 times and recently divorced her 8th husband on paper in order to apply for her 7th husbands (who is deceased) social security and plans to remarry my current stepfather…

    My fathers primary fault and the cause of his downfall was that like you and those of your ilk…He refused to listen to those who tried to tell him the truth about what was really going on until he was forced to admit it…But only after it was already too late to avoid the fate of an untimely death…

  • Mr. Pinga

    Will unless you know someone personally you should refrain from making snap judgements about their lives…

    As it was my Father never left nor divorced any of his wives in spite of my mothers well documented (by her own addmission) acts of adultry…

    My mother and first stepmother left my father when they realized that they could no longer control him…His third wife left when she realized that she could con my dad out of his money wether she was married to him or not…She even went so far as to bare two children from another relationship that she convinced my father was platonic…

    My own mother has been married 8 times and recently divorced her 8th husband on paper in order to apply for her 7th husbands (who is deceased) social security and plans to remarry my current stepfather…

    My fathers primary fault and the cause of his downfall was that like you and those of your ilk…He refused to listen to those who tried to tell him the truth about what was really going on until he was forced to admit it…But only after it was already too late to avoid the fate of an untimely death…

  • Mr. Pinga

    Yada…Yada…Yada…Squiggy you’d be well advised to peddle your con. repub. propaganda and out right lies to the choir of useful bigots in the churchs of the reglious right…

    The only so called holy grail that your ilk seeks is absolute power which is why both lib. dem. and con. repub. seek to subvert both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…

    Take care for your path ends in the lake of fire created for the Devil and His angels at the end of time…

  • Mr. Pinga

    Yada…Yada…Yada…Squiggy you’d be well advised to peddle your con. repub. propaganda and out right lies to the choir of useful bigots in the churchs of the reglious right…

    The only so called holy grail that your ilk seeks is absolute power which is why both lib. dem. and con. repub. seek to subvert both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…

    Take care for your path ends in the lake of fire created for the Devil and His angels at the end of time…

  • Mr. Pinga

    Yada…Yada…Yada…Squiggy you’d be well advised to peddle your con. repub. propaganda and out right lies to the choir of useful bigots in the churchs of the reglious right…

    The only so called holy grail that your ilk seeks is absolute power which is why both lib. dem. and con. repub. seek to subvert both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…

    Take care for your path ends in the lake of fire created for the Devil and His angels at the end of time…

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Perhaps if your father had stayed married to his first wife rather than cruising through a series of “stepmothers” he would still be alive.

    Immorality has its price.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Perhaps if your father had stayed married to his first wife rather than cruising through a series of “stepmothers” he would still be alive.

    Immorality has its price.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Perhaps if your father had stayed married to his first wife rather than cruising through a series of “stepmothers” he would still be alive.

    Immorality has its price.

  • Squiggy

    Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…

    Right. Telling you and “dad” you’re wrong is “stomping” on you. An ego that easily bruised is pretty pathetic. And it’s “whipped”, not “whooped” (or is that stomping on you again?).

    Lib. Dem’s and Con. Repub’s are fighting an all out war to take over this country and they could care less about the Constitution of the Bill of Rights…

    Typical liberal, are you? The only time you people ever quote the constitution is when you have no argument, and conservatives call you on it. The constitution is your impediment, not ours. It’s our holy grail.

  • Squiggy

    Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…

    Right. Telling you and “dad” you’re wrong is “stomping” on you. An ego that easily bruised is pretty pathetic. And it’s “whipped”, not “whooped” (or is that stomping on you again?).

    Lib. Dem’s and Con. Repub’s are fighting an all out war to take over this country and they could care less about the Constitution of the Bill of Rights…

    Typical liberal, are you? The only time you people ever quote the constitution is when you have no argument, and conservatives call you on it. The constitution is your impediment, not ours. It’s our holy grail.

  • Squiggy

    Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…

    Right. Telling you and “dad” you’re wrong is “stomping” on you. An ego that easily bruised is pretty pathetic. And it’s “whipped”, not “whooped” (or is that stomping on you again?).

    Lib. Dem’s and Con. Repub’s are fighting an all out war to take over this country and they could care less about the Constitution of the Bill of Rights…

    Typical liberal, are you? The only time you people ever quote the constitution is when you have no argument, and conservatives call you on it. The constitution is your impediment, not ours. It’s our holy grail.

  • Mr. Pinga

    Hello DadwithGirls…

    Logic is definitely not their strong suit and they are like my Dad used to be and my brothers are today…Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…In order to massage their bruised male egos and prove to themselves that they are the man…

    Growing up history was a hobby of mine…The CIA
    will not hesitate to cause the fall of a foreign gov. that will not do our bidding…Nor could they care less if their hand picked replacement is a murderous dictator as long as he does our gov. bidding…

    Many years ago our own military leaders considered sponsoring terrorist acts against the unsuspecting American people in order to garner popular support for their agenda…Fortunately they abandoned that dispecible idea…

    Lib. Dem’s and Con. Repub’s are fighting an all out war to take over this country and they could care less about the Constitution of the Bill of Rights…there is No lie is too low and no act so vile that they wouldn’t hesitate to utter or committ if it will acheive their goals..

    Because of the support of the religious right and the war on terror Bush has been able to speed up boththe concentration of governmental power in the hands of one party. As well as the steady erosion of the rights enjoyed by the Ameruican people that are guarenteed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…

    Guys like Will, Denis, Hal and Squiggy whose eyes can not see and itching ears can not hear anything except for what they want to see and hear…Are little better that useful idiots for the Talirepublicans and conservatives who are also beholden to their female supporters…

    These guys have worked long and hard to hijack and subvert MND from a MRA site to an extreme right wing nut site and unfortunately they have succeeded…

    BTW After giving in repeatedly to my stepmothers whims throughout the years my father, who was a successful Chiropractor, died from an STD infection intentionally passed on to him by one of my stepmothers…

  • Mr. Pinga

    Hello DadwithGirls…

    Logic is definitely not their strong suit and they are like my Dad used to be and my brothers are today…Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…In order to massage their bruised male egos and prove to themselves that they are the man…

    Growing up history was a hobby of mine…The CIA
    will not hesitate to cause the fall of a foreign gov. that will not do our bidding…Nor could they care less if their hand picked replacement is a murderous dictator as long as he does our gov. bidding…

    Many years ago our own military leaders considered sponsoring terrorist acts against the unsuspecting American people in order to garner popular support for their agenda…Fortunately they abandoned that dispecible idea…

    Lib. Dem’s and Con. Repub’s are fighting an all out war to take over this country and they could care less about the Constitution of the Bill of Rights…there is No lie is too low and no act so vile that they wouldn’t hesitate to utter or committ if it will acheive their goals..

    Because of the support of the religious right and the war on terror Bush has been able to speed up boththe concentration of governmental power in the hands of one party. As well as the steady erosion of the rights enjoyed by the Ameruican people that are guarenteed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…

    Guys like Will, Denis, Hal and Squiggy whose eyes can not see and itching ears can not hear anything except for what they want to see and hear…Are little better that useful idiots for the Talirepublicans and conservatives who are also beholden to their female supporters…

    These guys have worked long and hard to hijack and subvert MND from a MRA site to an extreme right wing nut site and unfortunately they have succeeded…

    BTW After giving in repeatedly to my stepmothers whims throughout the years my father, who was a successful Chiropractor, died from an STD infection intentionally passed on to him by one of my stepmothers…

  • Mr. Pinga

    Hello DadwithGirls…

    Logic is definitely not their strong suit and they are like my Dad used to be and my brothers are today…Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…In order to massage their bruised male egos and prove to themselves that they are the man…

    Growing up history was a hobby of mine…The CIA
    will not hesitate to cause the fall of a foreign gov. that will not do our bidding…Nor could they care less if their hand picked replacement is a murderous dictator as long as he does our gov. bidding…

    Many years ago our own military leaders considered sponsoring terrorist acts against the unsuspecting American people in order to garner popular support for their agenda…Fortunately they abandoned that dispecible idea…

    Lib. Dem’s and Con. Repub’s are fighting an all out war to take over this country and they could care less about the Constitution of the Bill of Rights…there is No lie is too low and no act so vile that they wouldn’t hesitate to utter or committ if it will acheive their goals..

    Because of the support of the religious right and the war on terror Bush has been able to speed up boththe concentration of governmental power in the hands of one party. As well as the steady erosion of the rights enjoyed by the Ameruican people that are guarenteed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…

    Guys like Will, Denis, Hal and Squiggy whose eyes can not see and itching ears can not hear anything except for what they want to see and hear…Are little better that useful idiots for the Talirepublicans and conservatives who are also beholden to their female supporters…

    These guys have worked long and hard to hijack and subvert MND from a MRA site to an extreme right wing nut site and unfortunately they have succeeded…

    BTW After giving in repeatedly to my stepmothers whims throughout the years my father, who was a successful Chiropractor, died from an STD infection intentionally passed on to him by one of my stepmothers…

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    DAd,
    Your statement doesn’t hold water. I do see feminism as a real threat to our society as do most conservatives. However, I don’t fear feminist anymore than I fear Osama Bin Loser. I also don’t fear not being able to “top off [my] gas tank” As with all of your ilk you immediately rush to the extreme. Your hyper-emotional reactions are those of a woman (or a Liberal).

    Actually “We” are not at war with ourselves, Liberals and apparently the Democrat faithful are at war with America, the Constitution, and anybody that stands between them and power.

    As a Christian, I fear very little (the words “Speaker of the House Pelosi” come to mind). Faith in God eliminates those kinds of unreasoned fears from which you seem to suffer. God provides all I need whether protection or sufficiency.

    As for “feminist shaming tactics,” as Dennis said…If the shoe fits…You are the one spouting feminist terms and analogies, not us.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    DAd,
    Your statement doesn’t hold water. I do see feminism as a real threat to our society as do most conservatives. However, I don’t fear feminist anymore than I fear Osama Bin Loser. I also don’t fear not being able to “top off [my] gas tank” As with all of your ilk you immediately rush to the extreme. Your hyper-emotional reactions are those of a woman (or a Liberal).

    Actually “We” are not at war with ourselves, Liberals and apparently the Democrat faithful are at war with America, the Constitution, and anybody that stands between them and power.

    As a Christian, I fear very little (the words “Speaker of the House Pelosi” come to mind). Faith in God eliminates those kinds of unreasoned fears from which you seem to suffer. God provides all I need whether protection or sufficiency.

    As for “feminist shaming tactics,” as Dennis said…If the shoe fits…You are the one spouting feminist terms and analogies, not us.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    DAd,
    Your statement doesn’t hold water. I do see feminism as a real threat to our society as do most conservatives. However, I don’t fear feminist anymore than I fear Osama Bin Loser. I also don’t fear not being able to “top off [my] gas tank” As with all of your ilk you immediately rush to the extreme. Your hyper-emotional reactions are those of a woman (or a Liberal).

    Actually “We” are not at war with ourselves, Liberals and apparently the Democrat faithful are at war with America, the Constitution, and anybody that stands between them and power.

    As a Christian, I fear very little (the words “Speaker of the House Pelosi” come to mind). Faith in God eliminates those kinds of unreasoned fears from which you seem to suffer. God provides all I need whether protection or sufficiency.

    As for “feminist shaming tactics,” as Dennis said…If the shoe fits…You are the one spouting feminist terms and analogies, not us.

  • Denis

    If the shoe fits. You think and behave like a girl. “Immediately lapse”??? Please. I have written unemotional commentary here in response to your, and your like minded Kool-Aid drinker’s falsifications, histrionics and silly insults. When I use a metaphor that fits, you wet your pants and emote again like a girl. Like an offended girl, like a feminist, you believe it is your right alone to throw dirt, but not truth, and then when dirt is finally thrown back you behave like a spoiled crying girl who can’t have her way. Save your “shaming” verbiage for your sewing circle. It is utterly scary that there are adult males in this country who think and behave as you.

  • Denis

    If the shoe fits. You think and behave like a girl. “Immediately lapse”??? Please. I have written unemotional commentary here in response to your, and your like minded Kool-Aid drinker’s falsifications, histrionics and silly insults. When I use a metaphor that fits, you wet your pants and emote again like a girl. Like an offended girl, like a feminist, you believe it is your right alone to throw dirt, but not truth, and then when dirt is finally thrown back you behave like a spoiled crying girl who can’t have her way. Save your “shaming” verbiage for your sewing circle. It is utterly scary that there are adult males in this country who think and behave as you.

  • Denis

    If the shoe fits. You think and behave like a girl. “Immediately lapse”??? Please. I have written unemotional commentary here in response to your, and your like minded Kool-Aid drinker’s falsifications, histrionics and silly insults. When I use a metaphor that fits, you wet your pants and emote again like a girl. Like an offended girl, like a feminist, you believe it is your right alone to throw dirt, but not truth, and then when dirt is finally thrown back you behave like a spoiled crying girl who can’t have her way. Save your “shaming” verbiage for your sewing circle. It is utterly scary that there are adult males in this country who think and behave as you.

  • DadWithGirls

    Denis–

    “Liberal males have the cloudy reasoning of an adolescent girl emoting at the school prom.”

    Please note how this so-called MRA immediately lapses into feminist “shaming” tactics.

    This site is becoming a textbook for why there is no actual Men’s Movement.

    Unless we’re referring to the useless excretion of what feminists call — “boys talkin’ shit.”

  • DadWithGirls

    Denis–

    “Liberal males have the cloudy reasoning of an adolescent girl emoting at the school prom.”

    Please note how this so-called MRA immediately lapses into feminist “shaming” tactics.

    This site is becoming a textbook for why there is no actual Men’s Movement.

    Unless we’re referring to the useless excretion of what feminists call — “boys talkin’ shit.”

  • DadWithGirls

    Denis–

    “Liberal males have the cloudy reasoning of an adolescent girl emoting at the school prom.”

    Please note how this so-called MRA immediately lapses into feminist “shaming” tactics.

    This site is becoming a textbook for why there is no actual Men’s Movement.

    Unless we’re referring to the useless excretion of what feminists call — “boys talkin’ shit.”

  • Denis

    Your disconnect from reality is remarkable.

  • Denis

    Your disconnect from reality is remarkable.

  • Denis

    Your disconnect from reality is remarkable.

  • DadWithGirls

    W.M. — “Dad, it is YOUR “logic” and that of those like you that is toxic, not logic itself.”

    I find it amusing that so much psychological projection can be inspired just by simple questions that rattle the cages of the conservatively conscripted hereabouts.

    Not one reply has disproved or even intelligently critiqued that MAIN IDEA —

    WE ARE AT WAR WITH OURSELVES!

    When you get up in the morning, are you worried that Osama may nuke your town?

    Or, are you more worried that you can’t afford to top off your gas tank?

    FEAR is the ideology of this administration.

    And when you are afraid, REASON flies away.

    It’s simple biology, really.

    Frightened mammals do not reason well.

    Thet behave like ….

    well, contemporary Americans.

  • DadWithGirls

    W.M. — “Dad, it is YOUR “logic” and that of those like you that is toxic, not logic itself.”

    I find it amusing that so much psychological projection can be inspired just by simple questions that rattle the cages of the conservatively conscripted hereabouts.

    Not one reply has disproved or even intelligently critiqued that MAIN IDEA —

    WE ARE AT WAR WITH OURSELVES!

    When you get up in the morning, are you worried that Osama may nuke your town?

    Or, are you more worried that you can’t afford to top off your gas tank?

    FEAR is the ideology of this administration.

    And when you are afraid, REASON flies away.

    It’s simple biology, really.

    Frightened mammals do not reason well.

    Thet behave like ….

    well, contemporary Americans.

  • DadWithGirls

    W.M. — “Dad, it is YOUR “logic” and that of those like you that is toxic, not logic itself.”

    I find it amusing that so much psychological projection can be inspired just by simple questions that rattle the cages of the conservatively conscripted hereabouts.

    Not one reply has disproved or even intelligently critiqued that MAIN IDEA —

    WE ARE AT WAR WITH OURSELVES!

    When you get up in the morning, are you worried that Osama may nuke your town?

    Or, are you more worried that you can’t afford to top off your gas tank?

    FEAR is the ideology of this administration.

    And when you are afraid, REASON flies away.

    It’s simple biology, really.

    Frightened mammals do not reason well.

    Thet behave like ….

    well, contemporary Americans.

  • Denis

    Liberal males have the cloudy reasoning of an adolescent girl emoting at the school prom.

    That is not only,

    Sad, sad, sad, it’s

    Scary, scary, scary…

  • Denis

    Liberal males have the cloudy reasoning of an adolescent girl emoting at the school prom.

    That is not only,

    Sad, sad, sad, it’s

    Scary, scary, scary…

  • Denis

    Liberal males have the cloudy reasoning of an adolescent girl emoting at the school prom.

    That is not only,

    Sad, sad, sad, it’s

    Scary, scary, scary…

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Pinga is completely wrong. America did NOT sell “Saddam the poison gas he used on the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq war.” That is a fabrication, and anyone willing to do a modicum of research rather than drinking the Left-wing Moonbat Kool-aid, would know that.

    As for the rest of your blather, Conservatives don’t accuse

    “those who disagree with them are giving aid and comfort to the enemy”

    Only those who make public statements which actually do give aid and comfort to the enemy. There is a difference between a statement of disagreement and a statement which echoes the lies of our enemies. There is a difference between saying that our policies are wrong, and fighting every single action our duly elected government and our military takes even when those actions are clearly in the best interest of the security of our nation.

    Dad, it is YOUR “logic” and that of those like you that is toxic, not logic itself.







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