Just as Hitler was able to come to power in Germany due to the economic chaos caused by the treaty the Germans were forced to sign by the allies after at the end of WWI…So too did Saddam rise to power as a result of the chaos formented by the CIA in Iraq…

Denis replied:

The CIA did not foment chaos resulting in Saddam’s rise to power. Also, he murdered his way to the top. That is provable. Your position is not.

Mr. Pinga did not wish to try and prove his point further.

Mr. Pinga said:

It was after all Ronald Reagan (the false god who gave us no fault divorce of extreme right wing nuts) who sold Saddam the poison gas he used on the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq war…

Denis replied:

The U.S. under Reagan or any other U.S. administration never sold Saddam poison gas. That is provable. Your position is not.

Mr. Pinga did not wish to try and prove his point further.

Mr. Pinga said:

By placing America on a pedestal and worshiping her as a goddess (just as they do women) while claiming that she has never and will never do no wrong…That each and every act by those within the American govenment in regards to foreign policy no matter how immoral is justified…

Conservatives show just how much they have in common with the cowardly feminists and liberals that insist that females have all the rights but none of the responibilities…

Denis replied:

Many men here are not Republican’s. There is as must criticism of those chivilrous traditionalists as there are of liberals. We do see the threat of feminism. Glad to see a few of you liberals are finally “getting it” too. I suspect most here are Independents.

Finally, I have a lot of problems with Republican’s and not only the Democrats. Afterall, the Republican’s voted for the VAWA as much as the Democrats. I have big problems with Bush except for the war on terrorism and the Supreme Court nominations. I disagree with Democrats on virtually everything. We have a two party system. Feminists are the dominant force in the Democratic party and any man that votes for them is voting against himself 100% of the time. Third parties to date have had little impact besides taking enough votes from one side to let the other side win. Therefore I believe in working within that reality. Those Democrats who are Kool-Aid free and see the dangers of feminism should look at their own party. The age 30 and under female vote is reliably Democratic. The Republican’s and Democrat’s both work to win over this demographic. In the process BOTH screw over men. The Democrats (liberals) give this demograhic ever more freebies at the expense of men. The Republican’s (traditionalists) also work to give this demographic freebies at the expense of men to get their vote. The key to neutralizing this threat to men (in each case)is to move the age 30 and under female vote from the Democrat column to the Republican column. I don’t say this out of any love for Republican’s. Where are they going to go? A third party? Read text above. If they vote Republican the traditionalists will no longer have to screw the men to win the women and the liberals will no longer be able to screw the men to get the women’s vote. Will this happen. Not likely in the near future.

Mr Pinga replied:

Logic is definitely not their strong suit and they are like my Dad used to be and my brothers are today…Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…In order to massage their bruised male egos and prove to themselves that they are the man…

Mr. Pinga-Actually we only stomp on males (if you really are males-you exhibit too much emotionalism that we sometimes forget you claim to be males)who say things they can’t back up, keep avoiding challenges to their thinking, and who make subsequent accusations that we have refuted earlier.

Mr. Pinga said:

Growing up history was a hobby of mine…

I’m glad it was only a hobby. You would not be able to make a living at it. You can’t back up any of your positions. The problem with logic, as any rational person reading this thread can see, is not your strength.

Mr. Pinga said:

BTW After giving in repeatedly to my stepmothers whims throughout the years my father, who was a successful Chiropractor, died from an STD infection intentionally passed on to him by one of my stepmothers…

Denis said: (to himself)

WTF?! huh?

Mr. Pinga did not reply but continued with:

Many years ago our own military leaders considered sponsoring terrorist acts against the unsuspecting American people in order to garner popular support for their agenda…Fortunately they abandoned that dispecible idea…

Guys like Will, Denis, Hal and Squiggy whose eyes can not see and itching ears can not hear anything except for what they want to see and hear…Are little better that useful idiots for the Talirepublicans and conservatives who are also beholden to their female supporters…

Denis said(to himself):

female supporters? WTF? huh?

Mr. Pinga said:

Take care for your path ends in the lake of fire created for the Devil and His angels at the end of time…

Denis said (to himself):

this fucker is nuts

And yet you know enough about me to condemn me to hell? Wow, that’s some amazing power you control.

By the way, I’m buying stock in ALCOA, as obviously they’re selling you a lot lately.

As it was my Father never left nor divorced any of his wives in spite of my mothers well documented (by her own addmission) acts of adultry…

My mother and first stepmother left my father when they realized that they could no longer control him…His third wife left when she realized that she could con my dad out of his money wether she was married to him or not…She even went so far as to bare two children from another relationship that she convinced my father was platonic…

My own mother has been married 8 times and recently divorced her 8th husband on paper in order to apply for her 7th husbands (who is deceased) social security and plans to remarry my current stepfather…

My fathers primary fault and the cause of his downfall was that like you and those of your ilk…He refused to listen to those who tried to tell him the truth about what was really going on until he was forced to admit it…But only after it was already too late to avoid the fate of an untimely death…

The only so called holy grail that your ilk seeks is absolute power which is why both lib. dem. and con. repub. seek to subvert both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…

Take care for your path ends in the lake of fire created for the Devil and His angels at the end of time…

Immorality has its price.

Right. Telling you and “dad” you’re wrong is “stomping” on you. An ego that easily bruised is pretty pathetic. And it’s “whipped”, not “whooped” (or is that stomping on you again?).

Lib. Dem’s and Con. Repub’s are fighting an all out war to take over this country and they could care less about the Constitution of the Bill of Rights…

Typical liberal, are you? The only time you people ever quote the constitution is when you have no argument, and conservatives call you on it. The constitution is your impediment, not ours. It’s our holy grail.

Logic is definitely not their strong suit and they are like my Dad used to be and my brothers are today…Pussy whooped to the core yet always looking to stomp on any and all males who appear weaker then themselves in their eyes…In order to massage their bruised male egos and prove to themselves that they are the man…

Growing up history was a hobby of mine…The CIA
will not hesitate to cause the fall of a foreign gov. that will not do our bidding…Nor could they care less if their hand picked replacement is a murderous dictator as long as he does our gov. bidding…

Many years ago our own military leaders considered sponsoring terrorist acts against the unsuspecting American people in order to garner popular support for their agenda…Fortunately they abandoned that dispecible idea…

Lib. Dem’s and Con. Repub’s are fighting an all out war to take over this country and they could care less about the Constitution of the Bill of Rights…there is No lie is too low and no act so vile that they wouldn’t hesitate to utter or committ if it will acheive their goals..

Because of the support of the religious right and the war on terror Bush has been able to speed up boththe concentration of governmental power in the hands of one party. As well as the steady erosion of the rights enjoyed by the Ameruican people that are guarenteed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights…

Guys like Will, Denis, Hal and Squiggy whose eyes can not see and itching ears can not hear anything except for what they want to see and hear…Are little better that useful idiots for the Talirepublicans and conservatives who are also beholden to their female supporters…

These guys have worked long and hard to hijack and subvert MND from a MRA site to an extreme right wing nut site and unfortunately they have succeeded…

BTW After giving in repeatedly to my stepmothers whims throughout the years my father, who was a successful Chiropractor, died from an STD infection intentionally passed on to him by one of my stepmothers…

Actually “We” are not at war with ourselves, Liberals and apparently the Democrat faithful are at war with America, the Constitution, and anybody that stands between them and power.

As a Christian, I fear very little (the words “Speaker of the House Pelosi” come to mind). Faith in God eliminates those kinds of unreasoned fears from which you seem to suffer. God provides all I need whether protection or sufficiency.

As for “feminist shaming tactics,” as Dennis said…If the shoe fits…You are the one spouting feminist terms and analogies, not us.

“Liberal males have the cloudy reasoning of an adolescent girl emoting at the school prom.”

Please note how this so-called MRA immediately lapses into feminist “shaming” tactics.

This site is becoming a textbook for why there is no actual Men’s Movement.

Unless we’re referring to the useless excretion of what feminists call — “boys talkin’ shit.”

I find it amusing that so much psychological projection can be inspired just by simple questions that rattle the cages of the conservatively conscripted hereabouts.

Not one reply has disproved or even intelligently critiqued that MAIN IDEA —

WE ARE AT WAR WITH OURSELVES!

When you get up in the morning, are you worried that Osama may nuke your town?

Or, are you more worried that you can’t afford to top off your gas tank?

FEAR is the ideology of this administration.

And when you are afraid, REASON flies away.

It’s simple biology, really.

Frightened mammals do not reason well.

Thet behave like ….

well, contemporary Americans.

That is not only,

Sad, sad, sad, it’s

Scary, scary, scary…

As for the rest of your blather, Conservatives don’t accuse

“those who disagree with them are giving aid and comfort to the enemy”

Only those who make public statements which actually do give aid and comfort to the enemy. There is a difference between a statement of disagreement and a statement which echoes the lies of our enemies. There is a difference between saying that our policies are wrong, and fighting every single action our duly elected government and our military takes even when those actions are clearly in the best interest of the security of our nation.

Dad, it is YOUR “logic” and that of those like you that is toxic, not logic itself.

B.)The U.S. under Reagan or any other U.S. administration never sold Saddam poison gas. That is provable. Your position is not.

C.) This is a men’s site. You will see that men here are brutally honest regarding women and feminism. There is no pedestal for women here. That is provable. Your position is not.

D.) Many men here are not Republican’s. There is as must criticism of those chivilrous traditionalists as there are of liberals. We do see the threat of feminism. Glad to see a few of you liberals are finally “getting it” too. I suspect most here are Independents.

Finally, I have a lot of problems with Republican’s and not only the Democrats. Afterall, the Republican’s voted for the VAWA as much as the Democrats. I have big problems with Bush except for the war on terrorism and the Supreme Court nominations. I disagree with Democrats on virtually everything. We have a two party system. Feminists are the dominant force in the Democratic party and any man that votes for them is voting against himself 100% of the time. Third parties to date have had little impact besides taking enough votes from one side to let the other side win. Therefore I believe in working within that reality. Those Democrats who are Kool-Aid free and see the dangers of feminism should look at their own party. The age 30 and under female vote is reliably Democratic. The Republican’s and Democrat’s both work to win over this demographic. In the process BOTH screw over men. The Democrats (liberals) give this demograhic ever more freebies at the expense of men. The Republican’s (traditionalists) also work to give this demographic freebies at the expense of men to get their vote. The key to neutralizing this threat to men (in each case)is to move the age 30 and under female vote from the Democrat column to the Republican column. I don’t say this out of any love for Republican’s. Where are they going to go? A third party? Read text above. If they vote Republican the traditionalists will no longer have to screw the men to win the women and the liberals will no longer be able to screw the men to get the women’s vote. Will this happen. Not likely in the near future.

Although I understand there may be some impact on some readers using dramatic words like “extreme right wing nuts” (way over used btw-probably has already lost it’s impact), and other silly phrases like “toxin of logic” (laughable when you consider that the messages are not logical at all, not factual at all, but are purely emotive).

Please post more often.

The toxin of logic may eventually cure MND of it’s delusional right-wing dementia.

It’s a challenge.

These guys don’t even see FEMINISM as a threat to their existence.

They’re more obsessed with electing Rebublicans who voted 100% for VAWA 2005!

And, it’s a freakin’ MRA site!

Comedy UN-central, if you get my drift….

Sad, sad, sad…..

“And blaming the U.S. foreign policy for those traits shows that you’re substituting some jackass’s lamebrained political ideology for actual facts.”

In fact, I did not blame U.S. policy makers at all. I observed that they employed useful idiots.

Like…. ummmm …. YOU!

To make MY point.

Feminists seek to shut down anyone who disagrees with them by calling labeling those who oppose them as sexist…

Liberals do the same by labeling those who disagree with them as racists…

So it doesn’t surprise me in the least that conservatives (extreme right wing nuts) do the same by claiming that those who disagree with them are giving aid and comfort to the enemy…

It just so happens that DadwithGirls is correct in that past American foreign policy has bought about the very conditions we face today…

Just as Hitler was able to come to power in Germany due to the economic chaos caused by the treaty the Germans were forced to sign by the allies after at the end of WWI…So too did Saddam rise to power as a result of the chaos formented by the CIA in Iraq…

It was after all Ronald Reagan (the false god who gave us no fault divorce of extreme right wing nuts) who sold Saddam the poison gas he used on the Kurds during the Iran-Iraq war…

By placing America on a pedestal and worshiping her as a goddess (just as they do women) while claiming that she has never and will never do no wrong…That each and every act by those within the American govenment in regards to foreign policy no matter how immoral is justified…

Conservatives show just how much they have in common with the cowardly feminists and liberals that insist that females have all the rights but none of the responibilities…