Are Female Pigs Chauvinistic?

KateM inquired —

DWD – “Why do you like playing games with women?”

* Actually, I do not play games with women. My experiences with women have taught me that they are poor game-players. So, I no longer desire them as partners or as adversaries. I am indifferent to women. They are, at best, a marginal, silly species.

Why is it that “any woman who would submit to that gambit would be an MRA’s best girlfriend!”? Why the word “submit”?

* Substitute the word — “agree.” Then you will be on a hunt for the truthfulness of feminism…

(By the way, what is an MRA?)

* A Men’s Right’s Advocate.

I agree with you that “using the C-word was a brilliant marketing ploy” by Levy.

* Well, she didn’t actually use the real C-word.
That would have been politically incorrect.

KateM … Thanks for your questions.

They at least distinguish you from the average female, who is still polishing her mirror….

DadWithGirls,

Why do you like playing games with women?

Why is it that “any woman who would submit to that gambit would be an MRA’s best girlfriend!”? Why the word “submit”?

(By the way, what is an MRA?)

I agree with you that “using the C-word was a brilliant marketing ploy” by Levy.

KateM

Marc…

Get laid and either get a disease or end up paying child support for a child I don’t want…No thanks…

As the experts hereabouts advise, I’ve apparently been playing the wrong games with women.

No more “chess” or “checkers” for me.

Maybe “Scrabble” is the best solution?

Because at least the skank you are trying to lay will have to prove that she can spell?

Maybe “Shutes ‘n Ladders” is the better way to go?

No literacy is required. But she can’t be colorblind.

What about maybe “mumblepeg”?

The knife-striking-between-your-fingers very rapidly? ( A game about trust…)

Now, any woman who would submit to that gambit would be an MRA’s best girlfriend!

Women do not like games.

Because it poses the terrible prospect that they might lose.

Kim Gandy at N.O.W. is hysterical over prospects of boy-only schools!

Read between the lines….. always.

“Again, however, I say that the answer to this problem lies with men. It is men and their outdated and damaging embrace of chivalry who create these little demons while their young. Later, the little demons grow up to be entitled pigs, still hoping for handouts and throwing their sexuality out there in hopes their bodies will produce some wealth or validation for them.”

John, you have written some fine posts related to Marc’s blog, and I agree with almost every single one of your sentences.

If I may point out (without seeming to nit-pick) that men can only control their own actions vis-a-vis women.

Men cannot STOP girls from growing up as pigs.

Men can only behave in manners as to remove some of girls’ incentives to do so.

You undoubtedly understand very well that girls are being indoctrinated from a very early age by the mass media, by feminists in the educational systems, and through the disemination of misandry to show disregard for men’s wishes, men’s rights, and men in general.

As for the crucial role men play as fathers, as you know quite a few men are not even ALLOWED to behave as fathers….. except to send their childrens’ mothers that montly check, upon pain of incarceration.

And many of those mothers are not exactly encouraging their daughters to AVOID growing up as pigs.

As you point out, men have enormous untapped power, and I want to stress that I agree with your well-thought-out, and well-written comments, for example:

“Men hold the keys to the solution to the mess we’re in as a gender. We need not ask women for permission. We simply need to open our minds to a new paradigm of thinking about masculinity, gender roles, and we value ourselves.”

Thanks for articulating your thoughts so well about Marc’s blog on this particular topic.

I look forward to reading more of your thoughts on this….. as well as other subjects.

cheers!

John, your insight is very reassuring.
“Men have enormous power as individuals; many just don’t realize it.” – totally agree.
If things move slowly it’s only because we’re up against enormous odds. Tight political controls, public lethargy and a sycophantic media stifle real social change.
Only the quiet actions of individual men will bring the feminized world to its senses.
Great stuff! Thanks.

Fourthwire:

You are right to point out that bad female behavior is caused by girls and women never having been held accountable. The inferiority and insecurity that many abusive women feel is evidence of their emotional need to control their lives, and yet their conditioning to feel entitled causes them to lose that sense of control. They will never break out of this cycle until they stop relying on their political and social perks, and instead stand on their own two feet.

Again, however, I say that the answer to this problem lies with men. It is men and their outdated and damaging embrace of chivalry who create these little demons while their young. Later, the little demons grow up to be entitled pigs, still hoping for handouts and throwing their sexuality out there in hopes their bodies will produce some wealth or validation for them. It’s sad and pathetic, but I place blame with the parents.

Men who do their best as fathers — yet are barred by courts from having a significant influence in their kids’ lives — are in dire need of our assistance. But fathers who face no obstacles to spending time with their kids have a profound impact on them — either by their presence or their absence. Those fathers that choose to but their love and attention into their kids have a special opportunity to raise the next generation of women to be independent, self-respecting, respectful to others, modest, and (most important of all) aware of the absolutely necessary and crucial role fathers must play in their kids’ lives. Such women will live lives worthy of good men. Such women will produce children in an ongoing positive cycle that is good for the family and good for society.

Fathers also can teach their sons how to spot a woman worthy of them, and how to be successful and happy in their selection of a life partner. This is important, because the next generation of men must respect themselves (and their sexuality) enough to demand the best in women, while leaving the skanks and miscreants behind.

In addition to the crucial role men play as fathers, they also have power to exercise in their own romantic endeavors. It is men who provide economic incentives for women to behave badly; Marc talks about this all the time. By avoiding narcissistic women and finding those without the need to be taken care of, men can leave the parasites to themselves and their future lives with cats.

Men have enormous power as individuals; many just don’t realize it. Over time, reason and experience will inform more men that they are looking at a dead-end by feeding the pigs. We in the men’s movement have the technology to spread the message, and guys like Marc Rudov are making that message compelling and interesting.

Men hold the keys to the solution to the mess we’re in as a gender. We need not ask women for permission. We simply need to open our minds to a new paradigm of thinking about masculinity, gender roles, and we value ourselves.

Those women who choose to Miss-behave — in spite of our coming awakening — can fade into a lifetime of irrelevance; this will not bother me one iota.

It’s time for men to realize their power, and seize the day.

John Dias

bravo! marc!

Fourthwire,

You understand precisely the point of my article: no matter how badly women behave — even if it is worse than “stereotypical” male behavior — the laws, law enforcement, judiciary, and media STILL favor them.

Bad female behavior is not derived from feeling superior to men; it comes from never being held accountable — in childhood and adulthood. In reality, people never held accountable don’t feel superior. They feel inferior. Why? Because people who aren’t ever held accountable know, deep down inside, that they are not respected and viewed as peers.

Acting out — by children AND adults — is a cry for help, a cry for supervision, a feeling of INFERIORITY.

“Why do I care if girls and women are MissBehaving pigs?

Because they become girlfriends, sex partners, and mothers—and, consequently, will have the power to control the lives of men.”

Certainly those women will have power to INFLUENCE the lives of men….. but those men who have become CONTROLLED by women are well and truly f*cked……. since they have lost touch with one of the most fundamental aspects of manhood.

“In family courts and criminal courts, judges—especially male judges—tend to give women passes, presuming them innocent while presuming men guilty: in divorce settlements, custody fights, rape accusations, and domestic-violence incidents.

In case after case, a woman falsely accusing a man of rape—even admitting it—thereby committing a felony, is not prosecuted.

Her MissBehaving is overlooked or ignored.

So, I ask you, Ms Levy: How is this raunchy female behavior rooted in a feeling of superiority to men?

It isn’t.

The source of escalating female raunch is the lack of self-respect from growing up coddled, spoiled, and feeling entitled to special privileges and deference.”

Hard to argue those points, Marc.
“Privileged princesses behaving badly”.

And expecting society to accept that behavior because they were born with a vagina, therefore entitling them to superior rights.

John said –
1) Women who have children with men also require the man’s consent in this process.
2)Politicians who pass anti-male and anti-father legislation rely just as much upon the votes of males as they rely upon female votes.

1) wrong! women dictate when a child will be conceived and born. Men may or may not be willing accomplises. In many cases, they are not willing and the child is conceived without his consent.

2) wrong! When did VAWA get put to a vote? No time. Ever. Our only choice is to vote out whomever voted to enact it.

DWG, I know better than to try to educate you (but for the sake of others who may read these posts)………

In fact, the correct answer to a question from a woman such as “Are you seeing anyone right now?” is an affirmative, as Marc points out.

Men IMMEDIATELY become more interesting to women when other women are seeking them, and when those men are having any sort of relationship with other women.

And to correct your illogical assumption, plenty of women can accept that men have given up on women, since THEIR OWN EGOS ARE NOT ON THE LINE.

You may believe that you’re playing checkers, DWG, but you apparently haven’t even worked out how the pieces move yet.

DWG, I know better than to try to educate you (but for the sake of others who may read these posts)………

In fact, the correct answer to a question from a woman such as “Are you seeing anyone right now?” is an affirmative, as Marc points out.

Men IMMEDIATELY become more interesting to women when other women are seeking them, and when those men are having any sort of relationship with other women.

And to correct your illogical assumption, plenty of women can accept that men have given up on women, since THEIR OWN EGOS ARE NOT ON THE LINE.

You may believe that you’re playing checkers, DWG, but you apparently haven’t even worked out how the pieces move yet.

Marc,

The “because I’ve given up on women” comment is merely a strategy…. (Hardly disempowering.)

No woman can accept that you’ve given up on her species!

She will seek earnestly to overcome your expressed commitment to voluntary celebacy.

It’s a chess game, Marc.

Moves. Three ahead and check-mate?

Not checkers.

Bad experiment, DadWithGirls!

Why give a disempowering answer? When you say you have given up on women, you look like a loser. You make it seem that women have defeated you. You’ll never get laid that way.

When a woman asks if you are seeing anyone right now, say: “Of course. What did you have in mind?”

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Here’s an experiment that I encourage all intentionally unmarried MRA’s to try:

Next time a female asks you, “So, are you seeing anyone right now?”

Reply — “No.”

She will automatically ask — “How come?”

State with an evil grin — “Because I have GIVEN UP ON WOMEN.”

After you enjoy her heart-attack expression of shock and disbelief, have fun with the rest of the conversation…

John Dias, I could not agree more.

I would point out that quite a few men in Western nations lack the testicular fortitude to determine their own destiny, particularly in terms of if, when, and whom we marry and reproduce with.

Not only does such a proactive approach work for men on a macro level with respect to sending a firm veto vote with respect to piggish women, such behavior is a real eye-opener for those career women brainwashed by feminist ideology to believe that men’s wishes simply do not matter.

Great post! Clearly (to me, at least!) you “get it”.

Marc wrote — “Women demeaning themselves are not chauvinist pigs — just pigs.”

I have my copy of Ms. Levy’s book in front of me right now, and I just took a look at the index.

There is no reference at all to the words “chauvinist” or chauvinism.”

So in fact she never defines her fundamental criteria. I suspect that using the C-word was a brilliant marketing ploy.

Ariel Levy’s final paragraph in her book reads –

“If we believed that we were sexy and funny and competent and smart, we would not need to be like strippers or like men or like anyone other than our own specific, individual selves. That won’t be easy, but ultimately it would be no more difficult than the kind of contortions Female Chauvinist Pigs are constantly performing in an effort to prove themselves. More importantly, the rewards would be the very things Female Chauvinist Pigs want so desperately, the things women deserve: freedom and power.”

So, is Levy a feminist? A chauvinist?

Marc Rudov wrote:
“Why do I care if girls and women are MissBehaving pigs? Because they become girlfriends, sex partners, and mothers—and, consequently, will have the power to control the lives of men.”

I understand why it is right to “care” that some women are behaving in pig-like fashion, and that such piggish women will go on to become intimates with men and also mothers (both of which roles are ill-suited to piggish women). And yet something in me considers such sentiment misdirected. Either we care about reforming the social perception of femininity (and thus reform society as a whole of female piggishness), or we take a far more effective approach.

Instead of trying to reform society of the attitudes that spawn “Miss-behavior,” why not just appeal to men directly? Women who marry men are not just marrying robots; the man must consent. Women who have children with men also require the man’s consent in this process. Politicians who pass anti-male and anti-father legislation rely just as much upon the votes of males as they rely upon female votes.

A more effective approach to combatting Miss-behavior is, therefore, to appeal to the sensibility and rationality of the individual male. Men must stop putting up with this crap, and choose their mates more carefully. Men must also recognize the anti-male hostility in feminist-inspired laws and concepts, and this is especially important in the educational realm (elementary, secondary, college, and graduate levels all). When men start speaking up (and stop putting up), then we’ll see some progress.

I, as an individual, have no time to reform society of the worms that infest it. But I have fantastic power over my own destiny (even in the misandric and anti-male culture I live in), and I still choose my mates. Rather than enticing men to throw up their hands in desperation upon seeing such a tragic state as our feminist culture displays, we would be more effective in waking them up to their true power as individuals.

Perhaps then, the political dynamic would begin to shift en masse as well.

John Dias
Founder, DontMakeHerMad.com

Fourthwire,

While I agree that feminists definitely feel superior to men and DO exhibit chauvinistic behavior, my article specifically refers to the premise and message of Ariel Levy’s book.

Women demeaning themselves are not chauvinist pigs — just pigs.

“The word chauvinism is derived from Chauvin, a soldier serving in Napoleon’s French army, who was known for his loud-mouthed patriotism.

It has come to mean, in our times, the prejudiced belief in the superiority of one’s own gender, group, or kind.

When men believed that women were naturally relegated and limited to menial tasks and giving birth, that was chauvinism.

Female pigs, however, aren’t feeling or acting superior, and are not chauvinistic.

They are self-loathing and insecure, and now are “out-raunching” men.”

Understanding that you refer to a subset of the female population of the United States when you mention that “female pigs” are not chauvinistic, you are obviously NOT making reference to America’s feminists – those women who certainly exhibit a prejudiced belief in the superiority in the female gender (oddly enough, often while pointing out the “victimization” of females!).

And this chauvinistic attitude among the feminist-influenced mainstream media is obvious to ANYONE with more than three grey cells and a cable TV connection.

Just watch (or listen) how men and women are typically portrayed during commercial advertizing.

Unless it’s a beer or pickup truck commercial, if both actors and actresses participate in those commercials, you know which gender is going to be portrayed as clumsy, bumbling idiots unable to care for themselves, much less their families……………

………….and which gender is going to be portrayed as the wise, informed, hard-working, and intelligent gender.