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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/26/parent-activist-murtari-will-remain-in-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-20921</link>
		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Resistance to Civil Government

Thoreau considers an honest citizen&#039;s options when facing immoral acts of government.

&quot;I heartily accept the motto, &quot;That government is best which governs least&quot;; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically.&quot;

&quot;The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies. They are the standing army, and the militia, jailers, constables, posse comitatus, etc. In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgement or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well. Such command no more respect than men of straw or a lump of dirt. They have the same sort of worth only as horses and dogs. Yet such as these even are commonly esteemed good citizens. Others--as most legislators, politicians, lawyers, ministers, and office-holders--serve the state chiefly with their heads; and, as the rarely make any moral distinctions, they are as likely to serve the devil, without intending it, as God. A very few--as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men--serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated as enemies by it. A wise man will only be useful as a man, and will not submit to be &quot;clay,&quot; and &quot;stop a hole to keep the wind away,&quot; but leave that office to his dust at least.&quot;

&quot;Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison.&quot;

&quot;If the tax-gatherer, or any other public officer, asks me, as one has done, &quot;But what shall I do?&quot; my answer is, &quot;If you really wish to do anything, resign your office.&quot; When the subject has refused allegiance, and the officer has resigned from office, then the revolution is accomplished.&quot;

&quot;I do not wish to quarrel with any man or nation. I do not wish to split hairs, to make fine distinctions, or set myself up as better than my neighbors. I seek rather, I may say, even an excuse for conforming to the laws of the land. I am but too ready to conform to them.&quot;

&#039;The lawyer&#039;s truth is not Truth, but consistency or a consistent expediency. Truth is always in harmony with herself, and is not concerned chiefly to reveal the justice that may consist with wrong-doing. He well deserves to be called, as he has been called, the Defender of the Constitution. There are really no blows to be given him but defensive ones. He is not a leader, but a follower. His leaders are the men of &#039;87. &quot;I have never made an effort,&quot; he says, &quot;and never propose to make an effort; I have never countenanced an effort, and never mean to countenance an effort, to disturb the arrangement as originally made, by which various States came into the Union.&quot; Still thinking of the sanction which the Constitution gives to slavery, he says, &quot;Because it was part of the original compact--let it stand.&quot;&#039;

&quot;If we were left solely to the wordy wit of legislators in Congress for our guidance, uncorrected by the seasonable experience and the effectual complaints of the people, America would not long retain her rank among the nations. For eighteen hundred years, though perchance I have no right to say it, the New Testament has been written; yet where is the legislator who has wisdom and practical talent enough to avail himself of the light which it sheds on the science of legislation.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resistance to Civil Government</p>
<p>Thoreau considers an honest citizen&#8217;s options when facing immoral acts of government.</p>
<p>&#8220;I heartily accept the motto, &#8220;That government is best which governs least&#8221;; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies. They are the standing army, and the militia, jailers, constables, posse comitatus, etc. In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgement or of the moral sense; but they put themselves on a level with wood and earth and stones; and wooden men can perhaps be manufactured that will serve the purpose as well. Such command no more respect than men of straw or a lump of dirt. They have the same sort of worth only as horses and dogs. Yet such as these even are commonly esteemed good citizens. Others&#8211;as most legislators, politicians, lawyers, ministers, and office-holders&#8211;serve the state chiefly with their heads; and, as the rarely make any moral distinctions, they are as likely to serve the devil, without intending it, as God. A very few&#8211;as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men&#8211;serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated as enemies by it. A wise man will only be useful as a man, and will not submit to be &#8220;clay,&#8221; and &#8220;stop a hole to keep the wind away,&#8221; but leave that office to his dust at least.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If the tax-gatherer, or any other public officer, asks me, as one has done, &#8220;But what shall I do?&#8221; my answer is, &#8220;If you really wish to do anything, resign your office.&#8221; When the subject has refused allegiance, and the officer has resigned from office, then the revolution is accomplished.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not wish to quarrel with any man or nation. I do not wish to split hairs, to make fine distinctions, or set myself up as better than my neighbors. I seek rather, I may say, even an excuse for conforming to the laws of the land. I am but too ready to conform to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;The lawyer&#8217;s truth is not Truth, but consistency or a consistent expediency. Truth is always in harmony with herself, and is not concerned chiefly to reveal the justice that may consist with wrong-doing. He well deserves to be called, as he has been called, the Defender of the Constitution. There are really no blows to be given him but defensive ones. He is not a leader, but a follower. His leaders are the men of &#8216;87. &#8220;I have never made an effort,&#8221; he says, &#8220;and never propose to make an effort; I have never countenanced an effort, and never mean to countenance an effort, to disturb the arrangement as originally made, by which various States came into the Union.&#8221; Still thinking of the sanction which the Constitution gives to slavery, he says, &#8220;Because it was part of the original compact&#8211;let it stand.&#8221;&#8216;</p>
<p>&#8220;If we were left solely to the wordy wit of legislators in Congress for our guidance, uncorrected by the seasonable experience and the effectual complaints of the people, America would not long retain her rank among the nations. For eighteen hundred years, though perchance I have no right to say it, the New Testament has been written; yet where is the legislator who has wisdom and practical talent enough to avail himself of the light which it sheds on the science of legislation.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.constitution.org/civ/civildis.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.constitution.org/civ/civildis.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: roadkill1965</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/26/parent-activist-murtari-will-remain-in-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-20909</link>
		<dc:creator>roadkill1965</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus, his son can&#039;t visit him in debtor&#039;s prison because the mother moved him to the other side of the country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, his son can&#8217;t visit him in debtor&#8217;s prison because the mother moved him to the other side of the country!</p>
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		<title>By: Teri Stoddard</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/26/parent-activist-murtari-will-remain-in-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-20873</link>
		<dc:creator>Teri Stoddard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John has paid what he can, about half the court-ordered amount, all along.  He calls Dom often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John has paid what he can, about half the court-ordered amount, all along.  He calls Dom often.</p>
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		<title>By: kingatao</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingatao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know the particulars case therefor can&#039;t comment on whether or not theres injustice served, only offer my opinion. If there wasn&#039;t a small willingness to help, if he didn&#039;t pay any childsupport then he suffers the ramifications of such an action within this legal system. Like I said, I don&#039;t know the specifics of this case. From what I read; the fact he was ordered to serve a jail sentence isn&#039;t uncommon for failure to support his children or good faith in doing so. Should the question be, can his kids visit him in jail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know the particulars case therefor can&#8217;t comment on whether or not theres injustice served, only offer my opinion. If there wasn&#8217;t a small willingness to help, if he didn&#8217;t pay any childsupport then he suffers the ramifications of such an action within this legal system. Like I said, I don&#8217;t know the specifics of this case. From what I read; the fact he was ordered to serve a jail sentence isn&#8217;t uncommon for failure to support his children or good faith in doing so. Should the question be, can his kids visit him in jail?</p>
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		<title>By: AlMartin</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/26/parent-activist-murtari-will-remain-in-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-20867</link>
		<dc:creator>AlMartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why has the MSM not picked up on this?  WHY?!!!!

TMOTS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why has the MSM not picked up on this?  WHY?!!!!</p>
<p>TMOTS</p>
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		<title>By: Luek</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/26/parent-activist-murtari-will-remain-in-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-20822</link>
		<dc:creator>Luek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad that people like John are out there fighting for principle and basic human rights against a system that has evidently lost its sense of justice and humanity.

GO JOHN GO! 

You are making the bastards pay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad that people like John are out there fighting for principle and basic human rights against a system that has evidently lost its sense of justice and humanity.</p>
<p>GO JOHN GO! </p>
<p>You are making the bastards pay!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/10/26/parent-activist-murtari-will-remain-in-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-20813</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Crime of Peonage against John continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Crime of Peonage against John continues.</p>
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