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		<title>By: Jeff Pingle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Pingle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My life, and the lives of my children were destroyed by my abusive wife. See my Facebook page: Jeff Pingle</description>
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		<title>By: 16 Days of Activism: Rutgers Sponsors Global Feminist Terrorism</title>
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		<dc:creator>16 Days of Activism: Rutgers Sponsors Global Feminist Terrorism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rutgers is an integral part of the U.N. Feminist Rumor Mill.Â  Virtually all statistics and conclusions they make have been scientifically proven to be merely fantastical claims about domestic violence. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rutgers is an integral part of the U.N. Feminist Rumor Mill.Â  Virtually all statistics and conclusions they make have been scientifically proven to be merely fantastical claims about domestic violence. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Washington Times Hates Truth About Domestic Violence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Washington Times Hates Truth About Domestic Violence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But the Times article cites a statistic generated by the feminist rumor mill that somehow became &#8220;fact&#8221; at the United Nations: &#8220;A 2005 U.N. Population Fund report found that 70 percent of married women in India were victims of beatings or rape&#8221;. If there is a rumor mill that needs serious questioning by reporters and editors, this is it.Â  Acquiesence to the feminist rumor is why the Times article is biased.Â  Is the Times suggesting it would happily publish statistical agitprop propounded by the Ku Klux Klan and then not question it? Instead of questioning feminist rumor mill factoids, or looking at the truth about domestic violence, the Times dispatched the situation as any feminist would by pretending men are liars and idiots.Â  And, the Times fell over backwards into the Potomac to highlight this instead of publishing original letters which were undoubtedly sent in. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But the Times article cites a statistic generated by the feminist rumor mill that somehow became &#8220;fact&#8221; at the United Nations: &#8220;A 2005 U.N. Population Fund report found that 70 percent of married women in India were victims of beatings or rape&#8221;. If there is a rumor mill that needs serious questioning by reporters and editors, this is it.Â  Acquiesence to the feminist rumor is why the Times article is biased.Â  Is the Times suggesting it would happily publish statistical agitprop propounded by the Ku Klux Klan and then not question it? Instead of questioning feminist rumor mill factoids, or looking at the truth about domestic violence, the Times dispatched the situation as any feminist would by pretending men are liars and idiots.Â  And, the Times fell over backwards into the Potomac to highlight this instead of publishing original letters which were undoubtedly sent in. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Save Indian Family Foundation &#187; Domestic Violence Statistics Scandal: Manufactured Lies Out in Open</title>
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		<dc:creator>Save Indian Family Foundation &#187; Domestic Violence Statistics Scandal: Manufactured Lies Out in Open</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the meantime, SIF memebrs contacted David R. Usher of MensNewsDaily, world&#8217;s most famous Men&#8217;s Rights Blog. He also could not confirm the statistics and accused UN of manufacturing lies. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the meantime, SIF memebrs contacted David R. Usher of MensNewsDaily, world&#8217;s most famous Men&#8217;s Rights Blog. He also could not confirm the statistics and accused UN of manufacturing lies. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TheManOnTheStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheManOnTheStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very first DV-intimate partner report was done in 1975. This report has been touted as fact, which I believe it was.  One minor glitch, the fems have been touting the ##&#039;s of male-female, but seem to forget that the ##&#039;s of female to male was almost equal.  That&#039;s right, the exact report that they have been using as the building block was cherry picked.  Imagine that!

TMOTS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very first DV-intimate partner report was done in 1975. This report has been touted as fact, which I believe it was.  One minor glitch, the fems have been touting the ##&#8217;s of male-female, but seem to forget that the ##&#8217;s of female to male was almost equal.  That&#8217;s right, the exact report that they have been using as the building block was cherry picked.  Imagine that!</p>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All,

There is substantial evidence that VAWA funds are being mis-spent.  In 2005, the GAO was charged with providing a full report to Congress on how VAWA is working.  This report was never done.

The few GAO reports that have been made admit that a substantial number of grants are not being monitored, no reports have been filed, and accounting reports have not been filed by women&#039;s abuse centers.

It appears that a lot of this money is being used to buy Congress, and to finance a feminist cultural invasion of India.

See:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02641t.pdf
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0225.pdf
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02309.pdf</description>
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<p>There is substantial evidence that VAWA funds are being mis-spent.  In 2005, the GAO was charged with providing a full report to Congress on how VAWA is working.  This report was never done.</p>
<p>The few GAO reports that have been made admit that a substantial number of grants are not being monitored, no reports have been filed, and accounting reports have not been filed by women&#8217;s abuse centers.</p>
<p>It appears that a lot of this money is being used to buy Congress, and to finance a feminist cultural invasion of India.</p>
<p>See:<br />
<a href="http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02641t.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02641t.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0225.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0225.pdf</a><br />
<a href="http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02309.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02309.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incredible observations from the Indian woman, Mr. Usher.  Thank you for sharing.

steven deluca&#039;s link to the AMA report doesnt work.  Go to the site and search for the report. It is yet another validation that feminists are promoting lies and propoganda.  The AMA states clearly &quot;There is considerable debate over the relative rates of male-on-female versus female-on-male intimate partner violence. Notwithstanding
the findings of the NVAWS and the NCVS, a number of earlier surveys suggest
nearly equal participation rates for men and women in intimate partner violence.
Best known is the NFVS, which reports that female-on-male rates of aggression
are as high or higher than male-on-female rates,9 and Straus16 notes that his
review of some 30 studies using non-self-selected samples yielded the same
conclusion. According to Straus16p211 the &quot;near equality in assault rates cannot
be attributed to a gender bias in reporting.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredible observations from the Indian woman, Mr. Usher.  Thank you for sharing.</p>
<p>steven deluca&#8217;s link to the AMA report doesnt work.  Go to the site and search for the report. It is yet another validation that feminists are promoting lies and propoganda.  The AMA states clearly &#8220;There is considerable debate over the relative rates of male-on-female versus female-on-male intimate partner violence. Notwithstanding<br />
the findings of the NVAWS and the NCVS, a number of earlier surveys suggest<br />
nearly equal participation rates for men and women in intimate partner violence.<br />
Best known is the NFVS, which reports that female-on-male rates of aggression<br />
are as high or higher than male-on-female rates,9 and Straus16 notes that his<br />
review of some 30 studies using non-self-selected samples yielded the same<br />
conclusion. According to Straus16p211 the &#8220;near equality in assault rates cannot<br />
be attributed to a gender bias in reporting.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David R. Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just recieved a most interesting email from a discussion group of Indian women.  Apparently they do not like the new domestic violence law in India.  They know that feminists are lying and do not want to see the Indian family destroyed as feminists have done in western culture.

See: http://desicritics.org/2006/11/11/135402.php

Below is a fascinating unedited clip from her email, which eloquently describes how life really is in India, and why Indian women do not want western-style feminism rammed down their throats:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;In Western nations, women are not supported by husband or anyone. It goes by give and take policy in marriage. In 2005 as per USA census it is said Marriage is getting extinct in USA.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;do you think any man on the land of india will accept someone he is feeding can control him meaninglessly? by criminal terror fear. Marriage will 100% destroy in a year or 10 yrs, But certainly it will. I guess, outsiders of india is involved for this.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Those women, who are not thinking and running fastly behind feminist organisations are not thinking in a dimension calmly whether it really helps preserve our culture and soul.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;These laws will be used sprucely by manipulative women largely. If any sita using it, her mind will be slowly spoiled by other bad women to misuse it and &quot;umbrella of control&quot; starts in her family. Marriage closes shortly. &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;How can a luv/trust/attachment relationship runs with police, using economic/emotional abuse without physical abuse? &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;In otherwords, we are getting pulled by western nations for their form of life style. no one is thinking about this.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;un married women age grows and they will be more burdened like western women to manage herself or her father less(if) family. No man will come forward to marry her or to live with her in fear of 498a or DV act. what will be the fate of the country?&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;If you see urban women look healthy and ready for beauty contest, but even higher position men or a bureacrat look dry face, peechy personality or dull/pale structure. Am I wrong in not making this research properly? though we call india, male-dominated, it is never. These men are attached and running their families blindly with no expectation. Such highly position kinda men never take care of their women such way in any part of western life. This happens only in India. Now these men start thinking seriously. These men learn theri sons to stay away from urban women for marriages.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Laws when designed in bias to women should have been designed bias towards education and literacy as well. Govt must had designed DVact or
498a differently for educated women after 10th or intermediate atleast, so that misuse gets stopped and country would have flourished infrastructurally. Urban educated ill-women is as cruel as a urban educated ill-men. dont you agree? In that case, how do you agree to keep such laws in the hands of such women? dont you think such women crime increases in society and go unnoticed as there is no law for bad married women to get arrested.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I came to know about this after looking life in the west for several years. Western nations are male dominated but not India.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Infrastructure of India will further deteriorate because all significant thinkers loose balance of their mind to perfectly. 5% intellectuals responsible for 70% growth of the country, anyone thought about this. and this 5% disturbed for 5 to 20 yrs due to 498a or dv act!! what happens? present fate of country happened.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Because of blackmail, by-controll, implicit marital conflicts and years together fight inside courts JUST for finance distribution among couple. Bureacrats and intellectuals mind this way gets ruptured and can&#039;t contribute well or time for the infrastructure better for the country. Intellectuals continue to leave the country.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;This is what you wanted DV or 498a in current form. if any innocent women is learnt about such laws, and one bad individual is enough to change their minds to control their husbands. That starts destruction of marriage and take a lot of time and resources of individuals.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Today india infrastrcutre is affected, I believe, strong reason is 498a. Many officials participate in corruption as they became imbalanced, selfish not thinking properly for the development of the country, just because their minds are affected for 5 to 15 yrs period in controlled, blackmailed marriage. you can&#039;t imagine what happens to brain or physiology of human when stressed for years together. That outcome is the present physic structure of men in India.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;In future, just like in the west, women be it mother, sister will be fed by only brothers or fathers only. Concept of husband will die. If they get husbands, they get poor husbands, who are economically not well otherwise not. Just western life pervades all walks of life in India. Marriage will not happen (bcoz, boys parents learn boys not to, I learn my son to..i need his physical health and mental helath rather marriage life).&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Many intellecutals(70% 498a cases) masters, phds, engineers, doctors are around courts for 5 yrs to 8 yrs to just become innocent after trials. Is this the way country using intellectual resources/proeprty for the country? is this what we wanted India to be?&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;There is chance for India only when dedicated, sacrifice women role is required. India doesn&#039;t afford feminism. It affords active role of BEST women for the development of the nation. Women who are in wonderful marriage and at the same time helping hands for the country flourish and not feminists.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I end up saying only one thing before western feminism takes its troll completely -&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Good women ROLE is must for Indias growth and to preserve marriage value system and spiritual india. Pls. think calmly for a day or 2 and read western life and indian life difference, where it comes. I want my daughter to be part of this marriage system and not living outside marriage with multiple parterns in the name of liberation.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Once majority of Indian men are learnt not to provide/protect/feed his wife for no reciprocation/expectation from herside, that is westernization.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Do you think, a man who simply becomes a pet dog with economic/emotional violence usage by a urban controlling any women. I dont think so. Marriage will 100% break. BUT if the man is intelligent enough to become a beggar, what happens to the fate of that women in the current indian critcal/difficult economy, has any
one thought about it. She will be forced to enter into mal-profession for survival. Bad elements use her more and more. Is this feminism?&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Such cases grow exponentially from year after year. Men stop marrying if not now, after 5 yrs. parents will no longer marry their boys. they learn them how to stay away and take care of themselves.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I disclaim all liabilities, these are my opinions &amp; thoughts and experience for the help to other mankind preserving spiritual india.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;NCRB shows 45% men and 25% women suicide after marriage in India
(http://ncrb.nic.in/ADSI-03.pdf)&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Nagaraj research study (reliable stats : 498a.org/contents/general/
frontline_suicide.pdf) states men vs women suicide rates change after
marriage (before marriage 1:0.9) to 3.4 times (age 35-40).&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;This means&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;a) suicide rates till marriage Women vs. men: 1: 0.9&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;b) suicide rates after marriage (nagaraj study): 1: 3.4&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;c) suicide rates overall : 25%: 46% (http://ncrb.nic.in/ADSI-03.pdf)&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;d) dowry dispute deaths by police FIR stats (shown at National crime stats
bureau, you can get a copy using RTI) in 2004: 98%: 2% (2585 women in#s: 53 men
in #s suicided in 2004). THIS IS WHAT WOMEN ORGS SHOWING TO THE WORLD.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;This 2% men are from women (daughter-in-law) side. Men suiciding in marriage
is not shown here. This figure is terrorizing to rule women orgs, NCW in
amending dangerous laws like 498a and DV/DP act into cultural society.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;CORRECTIONS:
Now my question is what happened to 3.4 times maried men?? where they
are?? I mean&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;That means 10000 suicides in 2004 Nagarajan study (&quot;b&quot;)
states --2270 women suicide and 7730 men suicide BUT above &quot;d&quot; states 53 men
only (which is men died from daughter-in-laws family)&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Balance 7677 (53 subtracted from 7730) -what happened??. Where are these men
deaths?? That means 7677 men died JUST LIKE THAT. They died due to NO family
problems. Reliable stats already states main reason for suicide is family
problems/issues in India.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;So empirical analysis from above research shows that &quot;d&quot; (i.e, 98%
vs. 2%), which is FIRs at police station AND FOOLING COMMAN PPL AND MEDIA
BRINGING DANGEROUS LAWS LIKE 498A, DV ACT.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Conclusions:
In year 2004, approx 2585 women suicided/killed and 7730 (or close) men
suicided/killed after marriage. Dowry burning deaths, so far no reliable source is available
anywhere in my research but women orgs(sponsored/funded by western interests) are using this weapon a lot in last 15+yrs to raise funds. This needs serious independent (100% un related to women orgs or feminist orgs) research whether selfish interests are involved to westernize India breaking family system or reality further.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recieved a most interesting email from a discussion group of Indian women.  Apparently they do not like the new domestic violence law in India.  They know that feminists are lying and do not want to see the Indian family destroyed as feminists have done in western culture.</p>
<p>See: <a href="http://desicritics.org/2006/11/11/135402.php" rel="nofollow">http://desicritics.org/2006/11/11/135402.php</a></p>
<p>Below is a fascinating unedited clip from her email, which eloquently describes how life really is in India, and why Indian women do not want western-style feminism rammed down their throats:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;In Western nations, women are not supported by husband or anyone. It goes by give and take policy in marriage. In 2005 as per USA census it is said Marriage is getting extinct in USA.</em></p>
<p><em>do you think any man on the land of india will accept someone he is feeding can control him meaninglessly? by criminal terror fear. Marriage will 100% destroy in a year or 10 yrs, But certainly it will. I guess, outsiders of india is involved for this.</em></p>
<p><em>Those women, who are not thinking and running fastly behind feminist organisations are not thinking in a dimension calmly whether it really helps preserve our culture and soul.</em></p>
<p><em>These laws will be used sprucely by manipulative women largely. If any sita using it, her mind will be slowly spoiled by other bad women to misuse it and &#8220;umbrella of control&#8221; starts in her family. Marriage closes shortly. </em></p>
<p><em>How can a luv/trust/attachment relationship runs with police, using economic/emotional abuse without physical abuse? </em></p>
<p><em>In otherwords, we are getting pulled by western nations for their form of life style. no one is thinking about this.</em></p>
<p><em>un married women age grows and they will be more burdened like western women to manage herself or her father less(if) family. No man will come forward to marry her or to live with her in fear of 498a or DV act. what will be the fate of the country?</em></p>
<p><em>If you see urban women look healthy and ready for beauty contest, but even higher position men or a bureacrat look dry face, peechy personality or dull/pale structure. Am I wrong in not making this research properly? though we call india, male-dominated, it is never. These men are attached and running their families blindly with no expectation. Such highly position kinda men never take care of their women such way in any part of western life. This happens only in India. Now these men start thinking seriously. These men learn theri sons to stay away from urban women for marriages.</em></p>
<p><em>Laws when designed in bias to women should have been designed bias towards education and literacy as well. Govt must had designed DVact or<br />
498a differently for educated women after 10th or intermediate atleast, so that misuse gets stopped and country would have flourished infrastructurally. Urban educated ill-women is as cruel as a urban educated ill-men. dont you agree? In that case, how do you agree to keep such laws in the hands of such women? dont you think such women crime increases in society and go unnoticed as there is no law for bad married women to get arrested.</em></p>
<p><em>I came to know about this after looking life in the west for several years. Western nations are male dominated but not India.</em></p>
<p><em>Infrastructure of India will further deteriorate because all significant thinkers loose balance of their mind to perfectly. 5% intellectuals responsible for 70% growth of the country, anyone thought about this. and this 5% disturbed for 5 to 20 yrs due to 498a or dv act!! what happens? present fate of country happened.</em></p>
<p><em>Because of blackmail, by-controll, implicit marital conflicts and years together fight inside courts JUST for finance distribution among couple. Bureacrats and intellectuals mind this way gets ruptured and can&#8217;t contribute well or time for the infrastructure better for the country. Intellectuals continue to leave the country.</em></p>
<p><em>This is what you wanted DV or 498a in current form. if any innocent women is learnt about such laws, and one bad individual is enough to change their minds to control their husbands. That starts destruction of marriage and take a lot of time and resources of individuals.</em></p>
<p><em>Today india infrastrcutre is affected, I believe, strong reason is 498a. Many officials participate in corruption as they became imbalanced, selfish not thinking properly for the development of the country, just because their minds are affected for 5 to 15 yrs period in controlled, blackmailed marriage. you can&#8217;t imagine what happens to brain or physiology of human when stressed for years together. That outcome is the present physic structure of men in India.</em></p>
<p><em>In future, just like in the west, women be it mother, sister will be fed by only brothers or fathers only. Concept of husband will die. If they get husbands, they get poor husbands, who are economically not well otherwise not. Just western life pervades all walks of life in India. Marriage will not happen (bcoz, boys parents learn boys not to, I learn my son to..i need his physical health and mental helath rather marriage life).</em></p>
<p><em>Many intellecutals(70% 498a cases) masters, phds, engineers, doctors are around courts for 5 yrs to 8 yrs to just become innocent after trials. Is this the way country using intellectual resources/proeprty for the country? is this what we wanted India to be?</em></p>
<p><em>There is chance for India only when dedicated, sacrifice women role is required. India doesn&#8217;t afford feminism. It affords active role of BEST women for the development of the nation. Women who are in wonderful marriage and at the same time helping hands for the country flourish and not feminists.</em></p>
<p><em>I end up saying only one thing before western feminism takes its troll completely -</em></p>
<p><em>Good women ROLE is must for Indias growth and to preserve marriage value system and spiritual india. Pls. think calmly for a day or 2 and read western life and indian life difference, where it comes. I want my daughter to be part of this marriage system and not living outside marriage with multiple parterns in the name of liberation.</em></p>
<p><em>Once majority of Indian men are learnt not to provide/protect/feed his wife for no reciprocation/expectation from herside, that is westernization.</em></p>
<p><em>Do you think, a man who simply becomes a pet dog with economic/emotional violence usage by a urban controlling any women. I dont think so. Marriage will 100% break. BUT if the man is intelligent enough to become a beggar, what happens to the fate of that women in the current indian critcal/difficult economy, has any<br />
one thought about it. She will be forced to enter into mal-profession for survival. Bad elements use her more and more. Is this feminism?</em></p>
<p><em>Such cases grow exponentially from year after year. Men stop marrying if not now, after 5 yrs. parents will no longer marry their boys. they learn them how to stay away and take care of themselves.</em></p>
<p><em>I disclaim all liabilities, these are my opinions &#038; thoughts and experience for the help to other mankind preserving spiritual india.</em></p>
<p><em>NCRB shows 45% men and 25% women suicide after marriage in India<br />
(<a href="http://ncrb.nic.in/ADSI-03.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ncrb.nic.in/ADSI-03.pdf</a>)</em></p>
<p><em>Nagaraj research study (reliable stats : 498a.org/contents/general/<br />
frontline_suicide.pdf) states men vs women suicide rates change after<br />
marriage (before marriage 1:0.9) to 3.4 times (age 35-40).</em></p>
<p><em>This means</em></p>
<p><em>a) suicide rates till marriage Women vs. men: 1: 0.9</em></p>
<p><em>b) suicide rates after marriage (nagaraj study): 1: 3.4</em></p>
<p><em>c) suicide rates overall : 25%: 46% (<a href="http://ncrb.nic.in/ADSI-03.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ncrb.nic.in/ADSI-03.pdf</a>)</em></p>
<p><em>d) dowry dispute deaths by police FIR stats (shown at National crime stats<br />
bureau, you can get a copy using RTI) in 2004: 98%: 2% (2585 women in#s: 53 men<br />
in #s suicided in 2004). THIS IS WHAT WOMEN ORGS SHOWING TO THE WORLD.</em></p>
<p><em>This 2% men are from women (daughter-in-law) side. Men suiciding in marriage<br />
is not shown here. This figure is terrorizing to rule women orgs, NCW in<br />
amending dangerous laws like 498a and DV/DP act into cultural society.</em></p>
<p><em>CORRECTIONS:<br />
Now my question is what happened to 3.4 times maried men?? where they<br />
are?? I mean</em></p>
<p><em>That means 10000 suicides in 2004 Nagarajan study (&#8221;b&#8221;)<br />
states &#8211;2270 women suicide and 7730 men suicide BUT above &#8220;d&#8221; states 53 men<br />
only (which is men died from daughter-in-laws family)</em></p>
<p><em>Balance 7677 (53 subtracted from 7730) -what happened??. Where are these men<br />
deaths?? That means 7677 men died JUST LIKE THAT. They died due to NO family<br />
problems. Reliable stats already states main reason for suicide is family<br />
problems/issues in India.</em></p>
<p><em>So empirical analysis from above research shows that &#8220;d&#8221; (i.e, 98%<br />
vs. 2%), which is FIRs at police station AND FOOLING COMMAN PPL AND MEDIA<br />
BRINGING DANGEROUS LAWS LIKE 498A, DV ACT.</em></p>
<p><em>Conclusions:<br />
In year 2004, approx 2585 women suicided/killed and 7730 (or close) men<br />
suicided/killed after marriage. Dowry burning deaths, so far no reliable source is available<br />
anywhere in my research but women orgs(sponsored/funded by western interests) are using this weapon a lot in last 15+yrs to raise funds. This needs serious independent (100% un related to women orgs or feminist orgs) research whether selfish interests are involved to westernize India breaking family system or reality further.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<description>Thanks RK.  I&#039;ll keep my eyes on this case as it does illustrate the abuses of family law(lessness).

My disappointment is that an issue that affected three main players plus peripherals (OJ slaughtering two innocents -for those freshly out from under a rock) garnered more attention than an issue that negatively affects many millions (and that a law-abiding judge of the court was shot!! Oh, my!).

&quot;And of course, Darren is not the only one with a motive!&quot; RK
Hell, I could be a viable suspect in that case. Scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks RK.  I&#8217;ll keep my eyes on this case as it does illustrate the abuses of family law(lessness).</p>
<p>My disappointment is that an issue that affected three main players plus peripherals (OJ slaughtering two innocents -for those freshly out from under a rock) garnered more attention than an issue that negatively affects many millions (and that a law-abiding judge of the court was shot!! Oh, my!).</p>
<p>&#8220;And of course, Darren is not the only one with a motive!&#8221; RK<br />
Hell, I could be a viable suspect in that case. Scary.</p>
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		<description>wheresmy40, I believe Darran Mack attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the charges related to the Judge Weller shooting on the grounds that the prosecution has no more evidence that Darran did it than they do against any other Nevada resident.
And of course, Darren is not the only one with a motive!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Mack
is usually up to date on the Mack saga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wheresmy40, I believe Darran Mack attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the charges related to the Judge Weller shooting on the grounds that the prosecution has no more evidence that Darran did it than they do against any other Nevada resident.<br />
And of course, Darren is not the only one with a motive!<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Mack" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Mack</a><br />
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		<title>By: steven deluca</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven deluca</dc:creator>
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		<description>Years ago a woman speaking at a world conference as a member of the  American Psychiatric Association, reported two studies about therapists having sex with clients.  The numbers were very small (self reported - anon) with males out numbering females by double.  The way this woman saw it, women had different motives, love/nurturing and the men, well, the men, of course, were self centered pigs.  How did she determine that ... from her tone, and attitude, you could tell that she didn&#039;t think much of men.  She is likely one of those women who can watch the Vagina Monologue play, see the sexual abuse of a 13 year-old girl who is given booze, and used sexually by an adult woman, and cheer.  But if she, and her peers, had watched a male getting a child drunk for sexual gratification, they would be looking for their carving knives while discussing castration.

It&#039;s been years since I heard that sexist speech and I am glad to see that the head of the APA, Dr Gerald P. Koocher, now challenges feminist views of domestic violence.  Brave man. Hopefully the APA will make the studies avaible and the therapist of tomorrow will be more careful about sterotyping men when it comes to sex, violence, and the abuse of the other gender.

The AMA (American Medical Association)  3/22/03 had an article online (Report 9) of the Council on Scientific Affairs (1-94) www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/article/2036-2559.html challenging the biased views spread by feminists the last few years about D.V.

Why is it that with two such powerful groups - the AMA and the APA,  clearly saying that DV is not about &quot;a war against women&quot; while showing  that both genders are deeply impacted by the other gender, that so many groups still are unchallenged, yearly, when they have programs teaching our children and young adults that men are perps and women victims, almost always.

Oh, now I remember, girls don&#039;t do as well in science and they are better than boys with &quot;intuition&quot; and &quot;feelings&quot; ... so why look at scientific studies - so many details, so boring? When you  can bring man-hating lesbians in the class room (ya, it&#039;s a sterotype) discussing sexual harassment, rape, DV, showing photos of women with black eyes, sharing stories about savage beatings and rapes.  Our sons and daughters will not forget the stories and their fathers are not &quot;standing up&quot; for men, mothers are not protecting their sons.  Both genders are hurt when lies are told about the other.

Paul Craig Roberts in his article &quot;Feelings in First Place&quot; The Washington Times 10/22/01 wrote: &quot;When confronted with their false reporting, feminists say that they trust their feelings about men more than &#039;gender based&#039; statistics.  Like others, they are not interested in information that gets in the way of an agenda.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago a woman speaking at a world conference as a member of the  American Psychiatric Association, reported two studies about therapists having sex with clients.  The numbers were very small (self reported &#8211; anon) with males out numbering females by double.  The way this woman saw it, women had different motives, love/nurturing and the men, well, the men, of course, were self centered pigs.  How did she determine that &#8230; from her tone, and attitude, you could tell that she didn&#8217;t think much of men.  She is likely one of those women who can watch the Vagina Monologue play, see the sexual abuse of a 13 year-old girl who is given booze, and used sexually by an adult woman, and cheer.  But if she, and her peers, had watched a male getting a child drunk for sexual gratification, they would be looking for their carving knives while discussing castration.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been years since I heard that sexist speech and I am glad to see that the head of the APA, Dr Gerald P. Koocher, now challenges feminist views of domestic violence.  Brave man. Hopefully the APA will make the studies avaible and the therapist of tomorrow will be more careful about sterotyping men when it comes to sex, violence, and the abuse of the other gender.</p>
<p>The AMA (American Medical Association)  3/22/03 had an article online (Report 9) of the Council on Scientific Affairs (1-94) <a href="http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/article/2036-2559.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/article/2036-2559.html</a> challenging the biased views spread by feminists the last few years about D.V.</p>
<p>Why is it that with two such powerful groups &#8211; the AMA and the APA,  clearly saying that DV is not about &#8220;a war against women&#8221; while showing  that both genders are deeply impacted by the other gender, that so many groups still are unchallenged, yearly, when they have programs teaching our children and young adults that men are perps and women victims, almost always.</p>
<p>Oh, now I remember, girls don&#8217;t do as well in science and they are better than boys with &#8220;intuition&#8221; and &#8220;feelings&#8221; &#8230; so why look at scientific studies &#8211; so many details, so boring? When you  can bring man-hating lesbians in the class room (ya, it&#8217;s a sterotype) discussing sexual harassment, rape, DV, showing photos of women with black eyes, sharing stories about savage beatings and rapes.  Our sons and daughters will not forget the stories and their fathers are not &#8220;standing up&#8221; for men, mothers are not protecting their sons.  Both genders are hurt when lies are told about the other.</p>
<p>Paul Craig Roberts in his article &#8220;Feelings in First Place&#8221; The Washington Times 10/22/01 wrote: &#8220;When confronted with their false reporting, feminists say that they trust their feelings about men more than &#8216;gender based&#8217; statistics.  Like others, they are not interested in information that gets in the way of an agenda.&#8221;</p>
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		<description>&quot;But I refuse to condemn those who give the Judge Wellers of the world what they richly deserve for perverting the law.&quot; RK

 Hmmm.... What ever happened to THAT case? That case should be broadcast on Court TV with as much fanfare as the OJ case. It would be a good venue to expose the problems with the current family law debacle in America.  Or should this trial be held in secrecy to protect the &quot;best interests&quot; of the judge and his ilk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I refuse to condemn those who give the Judge Wellers of the world what they richly deserve for perverting the law.&#8221; RK</p>
<p> Hmmm&#8230;. What ever happened to THAT case? That case should be broadcast on Court TV with as much fanfare as the OJ case. It would be a good venue to expose the problems with the current family law debacle in America.  Or should this trial be held in secrecy to protect the &#8220;best interests&#8221; of the judge and his ilk?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David wrote a good article correctly defining the recent UN report on DV as pure unadulterated BS.
The reason I say the UN should stay out of it is because the gender biased and easy work for greedy lawyers who are not required to prove a damn thing system of family law is that what drives some men to suicide will drive other men to war.
It happened in Reno last summer.  It will happen again.  When all other Amendments fail, there is the Second Amendment.
I would rather we try the 13th Amendment and the Antipeonage Act first, but I understand that these laws are not available outside the US.
We keep talking, and hope others don&#039;t start shooting.  But I refuse to condemn those who give the Judge Wellers of the world what they richly deserve for perverting the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David wrote a good article correctly defining the recent UN report on DV as pure unadulterated BS.<br />
The reason I say the UN should stay out of it is because the gender biased and easy work for greedy lawyers who are not required to prove a damn thing system of family law is that what drives some men to suicide will drive other men to war.<br />
It happened in Reno last summer.  It will happen again.  When all other Amendments fail, there is the Second Amendment.<br />
I would rather we try the 13th Amendment and the Antipeonage Act first, but I understand that these laws are not available outside the US.<br />
We keep talking, and hope others don&#8217;t start shooting.  But I refuse to condemn those who give the Judge Wellers of the world what they richly deserve for perverting the law.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
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		<description>Well done David great article .Pity the UN like many governments do not recognize many decent fathers are suffering injustice, discrimination, prejudice, bias ,disregard , trauma, exploitation from a system content on destroying them. How hard are these men to be driven in the best interests of the child? Their suicides give the answer. So that&#039;s in the best interests of their children !!! Human rights for men do not exist in the new utopian feminazi age of Western society !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done David great article .Pity the UN like many governments do not recognize many decent fathers are suffering injustice, discrimination, prejudice, bias ,disregard , trauma, exploitation from a system content on destroying them. How hard are these men to be driven in the best interests of the child? Their suicides give the answer. So that&#8217;s in the best interests of their children !!! Human rights for men do not exist in the new utopian feminazi age of Western society !!</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<description>great article, and great responses.

I agree with amfortas - copy this to file and send as appropriate.</description>
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<p>I agree with amfortas &#8211; copy this to file and send as appropriate.</p>
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		<description>One could only hope David.

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		<dc:creator>David R. Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the President of the APA is willing to talk about it, and the President of the United States is, then we have changed the landscape enough to make science a part of conventional wisdom.</description>
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		<description>WHAT!??? And admit that DV is perpetuated equally by women as well as men (specifically in Western Contries)????  NEVER!  Whats next!  Admitting that child abuse is perpetuated (western again) moreso by women than men!

Oh look at the pretty pink elephant in the corner of the room!

TMOTS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT!??? And admit that DV is perpetuated equally by women as well as men (specifically in Western Contries)????  NEVER!  Whats next!  Admitting that child abuse is perpetuated (western again) moreso by women than men!</p>
<p>Oh look at the pretty pink elephant in the corner of the room!</p>
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		<description>On UN involvement with DV:  while I agree this falls outside of the founding intent of the U.N. (my grandfather &lt;a href=&quot;http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Usher%2C%20Roland%20G.%20(Roland%20Greene)%2C%20b.%201880&quot;&gt;Roland G. Usher &lt;/a&gt;was involved with that), the U.N. will be activist on protecting women whether we like it or not.  We must ensure that implemenation is focused on a few countries where male-on-female violence is skewed.  These are predominantly muslim countries.  But where dv-by-gender ratios are fairly even, the approach, if any, must be to heal the causes of it, which specifically translates into treatment for chemical abuse as the leading cause of DV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On UN involvement with DV:  while I agree this falls outside of the founding intent of the U.N. (my grandfather <a href="http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Usher%2C%20Roland%20G.%20(Roland%20Greene)%2C%20b.%201880">Roland G. Usher </a>was involved with that), the U.N. will be activist on protecting women whether we like it or not.  We must ensure that implemenation is focused on a few countries where male-on-female violence is skewed.  These are predominantly muslim countries.  But where dv-by-gender ratios are fairly even, the approach, if any, must be to heal the causes of it, which specifically translates into treatment for chemical abuse as the leading cause of DV.</p>
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