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		<title>By: MND/BlogWonks: Your Alternate Daily &#187; Kicking Men Down Under</title>
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		<dc:creator>MND/BlogWonks: Your Alternate Daily &#187; Kicking Men Down Under</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A frightening example of how out-of-control American misandry has become is Michigan&#8217;s new Coercive Abortion Prevention Act. Essentially, this law prohibits a man from leaving a pregnant woman with whom he currently resides. That&#8217;s right: If a Michigan man&#8217;s wife or girlfriend is pregnant, regardless of whether that fetus is actually his, he now is her slave &#8212; another swift kick in the balls of all men, delivered largely by men. Just how much hatred do men &#8212; who comprise the majority of all lawmakers &#8212; have for other men? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A frightening example of how out-of-control American misandry has become is Michigan&#8217;s new Coercive Abortion Prevention Act. Essentially, this law prohibits a man from leaving a pregnant woman with whom he currently resides. That&#8217;s right: If a Michigan man&#8217;s wife or girlfriend is pregnant, regardless of whether that fetus is actually his, he now is her slave &#8212; another swift kick in the balls of all men, delivered largely by men. Just how much hatred do men &#8212; who comprise the majority of all lawmakers &#8212; have for other men? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Blase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Blase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 07:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who thinks that this legislation is already outside the question? Bob and Jane live together (I guess that means have sexual intercourse) without marriage and the protections that marriage brings. No one forced Bob to have sexual intercourse with Jane. I doubt that almost any men are pressured into having sex with women outside of marriage. And now he wants to leave to &quot;think about it&quot;? What is there to think about? He&#039;s the father to a baby and he has to take care of that baby now. If he didn&#039;t want to he should have thought of that before he had sexual intercourse with her.

Someone said that they don&#039;t think that this law will stop people from having abortions, but ANY law that makes abortions worse than a minor inconvenience to constant pre-marital sexual intercourse and makes people, both men and women, face the real consequences will prevent abortions. This isn&#039;t Bob-and-Jane fun and games... this is a real child&#039;s life! And if Bob gets thrown in jail for trying to end that child&#039;s life, it&#039;ll be a far safer place for him than that child is in. 

Or maybe I&#039;m just way to drunk to be thinking about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who thinks that this legislation is already outside the question? Bob and Jane live together (I guess that means have sexual intercourse) without marriage and the protections that marriage brings. No one forced Bob to have sexual intercourse with Jane. I doubt that almost any men are pressured into having sex with women outside of marriage. And now he wants to leave to &#8220;think about it&#8221;? What is there to think about? He&#8217;s the father to a baby and he has to take care of that baby now. If he didn&#8217;t want to he should have thought of that before he had sexual intercourse with her.</p>
<p>Someone said that they don&#8217;t think that this law will stop people from having abortions, but ANY law that makes abortions worse than a minor inconvenience to constant pre-marital sexual intercourse and makes people, both men and women, face the real consequences will prevent abortions. This isn&#8217;t Bob-and-Jane fun and games&#8230; this is a real child&#8217;s life! And if Bob gets thrown in jail for trying to end that child&#8217;s life, it&#8217;ll be a far safer place for him than that child is in. </p>
<p>Or maybe I&#8217;m just way to drunk to be thinking about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well The guys are really up in arms on this one.  
People think I,m crazy for wanting to get out of this kooky, ass backwards and just plain old biased system.  That all the paperwork I have done to preserve my rights.... Yes  I said  RIGHTS1.. is just a waste of time.  Well if some B I T.. ( no I won&#039;t spell it out) tries this bull shit on me, they will not only fail, but will be facing criminal charges themselves.
You see, I am soveriegn citizen, that means I have a measure of  Immunity in dealing  with these tyrants.  To get me they have to show where I agreed ( ie have a valid contract) to this &quot;insane equity statue&quot; ( no sir it aint law) or they have to produce a &quot;injured party&quot; (* that means that more than her feeling were hurt)
I have sucessfully stopped the &quot;government terrorist&quot; in the past using these tactics.
It is tough to learn, but it does work!  You can not only beat these bastards, you can have them punished using their own system against them.
I do suspect that as legal system get more and more unstable and out of control, more men will do what I am doing.  It is just like the child suport monster, once the money, power and control are removed, that will solve the problem.  And eventually this whole God awful thing will end up on the ash heap of history.  Just like the Nazi&#039;s, the Communist and the racial bigots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well The guys are really up in arms on this one.<br />
People think I,m crazy for wanting to get out of this kooky, ass backwards and just plain old biased system.  That all the paperwork I have done to preserve my rights&#8230;. Yes  I said  RIGHTS1.. is just a waste of time.  Well if some B I T.. ( no I won&#8217;t spell it out) tries this bull shit on me, they will not only fail, but will be facing criminal charges themselves.<br />
You see, I am soveriegn citizen, that means I have a measure of  Immunity in dealing  with these tyrants.  To get me they have to show where I agreed ( ie have a valid contract) to this &#8220;insane equity statue&#8221; ( no sir it aint law) or they have to produce a &#8220;injured party&#8221; (* that means that more than her feeling were hurt)<br />
I have sucessfully stopped the &#8220;government terrorist&#8221; in the past using these tactics.<br />
It is tough to learn, but it does work!  You can not only beat these bastards, you can have them punished using their own system against them.<br />
I do suspect that as legal system get more and more unstable and out of control, more men will do what I am doing.  It is just like the child suport monster, once the money, power and control are removed, that will solve the problem.  And eventually this whole God awful thing will end up on the ash heap of history.  Just like the Nazi&#8217;s, the Communist and the racial bigots.</p>
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		<title>By: DadWithGirls</title>
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		<dc:creator>DadWithGirls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The proposal actually makes it a crime for a man to &quot;change or attempt to change an existing housing or cohabitation arrangement&quot; with a pregnant significant other, to &quot;file or attempt to file for a divorce&quot; from his pregnant wife or to &quot;withdraw or attempt to withdraw financial support&quot; from a woman whom he has been supporting -- if it is determined that the man is doing these things to try to pressure the woman to terminate her pregnancy.&quot;

The key legal concept here is &quot;attempt to pressure...&quot; (i.e. coerce).

Note that this does not require that any actual &quot;pressure&quot; or coercion has taken place.

(Just as in DV law, no actual violence needs to occur for a man to be arrested and convicted.)

Within our current feminist legal hall of mirrors injustice system, what do you think the &quot;standard of proof&quot; will be?

It will be merely the woman&#039;s &quot;subjective experience&quot; of feeling that she&#039;s being coerced. (&quot;He gave me a brochure from our local Planned Parenthood clinic and said I needed to read it...&quot;)

If a man even suggested to his female partner, let&#039;s say she&#039;s pregnant by her ex-boyfriend, that he wants them to consider an abortion -- because that might be the best way to preserve their relationship -- IMMEDIATELY under this law he is guilty of COERCION!

And his is not guity of any actual act, but merely guilty of the SUSPICION of the intent to commit a crime in the future ... in other words --- every man is guilty, a priori.

Logically --- it is no longer safe to cohabit with women, period.

The only solution for this feminist racketeering scheme is totally reliable male birth control.
Until then, producing sperm means you&#039;re at risk of extortion 24 x 7.

If I understand the law correctly, apparently a man in order to be prosecuted would have to do one or more of three illegal acts:

1) move or attempt to move out himself or move her out of their shared home
2) attempt to file or file for divorce
3) attempt to withhold financial support

Crime #1 could be just reading the classified ads for apartments for rent.

Crime # 2 could be having lunch with a friend who is an attorney in a Family Law firm.

Crime # 3 could be losing your job.

AND - any/all of these acts or &quot;attempts to act&quot; would have to be proved to be about directly seeking to &quot;pressure&quot; her into terminating her pregnancy, right?

I think I understand the motive behind those passing this law.

This law was passed by anti-choice activists who want to make abortion more difficult, and they are using the threatened prosecution of men to realize their anti-abortion objectives.

It is not about men&#039;s right at all.

Men are pawns in the scheme this law has created.

As usual, more bank for Family Court lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The proposal actually makes it a crime for a man to &#8220;change or attempt to change an existing housing or cohabitation arrangement&#8221; with a pregnant significant other, to &#8220;file or attempt to file for a divorce&#8221; from his pregnant wife or to &#8220;withdraw or attempt to withdraw financial support&#8221; from a woman whom he has been supporting &#8212; if it is determined that the man is doing these things to try to pressure the woman to terminate her pregnancy.&#8221;</p>
<p>The key legal concept here is &#8220;attempt to pressure&#8230;&#8221; (i.e. coerce).</p>
<p>Note that this does not require that any actual &#8220;pressure&#8221; or coercion has taken place.</p>
<p>(Just as in DV law, no actual violence needs to occur for a man to be arrested and convicted.)</p>
<p>Within our current feminist legal hall of mirrors injustice system, what do you think the &#8220;standard of proof&#8221; will be?</p>
<p>It will be merely the woman&#8217;s &#8220;subjective experience&#8221; of feeling that she&#8217;s being coerced. (&#8221;He gave me a brochure from our local Planned Parenthood clinic and said I needed to read it&#8230;&#8221;)</p>
<p>If a man even suggested to his female partner, let&#8217;s say she&#8217;s pregnant by her ex-boyfriend, that he wants them to consider an abortion &#8212; because that might be the best way to preserve their relationship &#8212; IMMEDIATELY under this law he is guilty of COERCION!</p>
<p>And his is not guity of any actual act, but merely guilty of the SUSPICION of the intent to commit a crime in the future &#8230; in other words &#8212; every man is guilty, a priori.</p>
<p>Logically &#8212; it is no longer safe to cohabit with women, period.</p>
<p>The only solution for this feminist racketeering scheme is totally reliable male birth control.<br />
Until then, producing sperm means you&#8217;re at risk of extortion 24 x 7.</p>
<p>If I understand the law correctly, apparently a man in order to be prosecuted would have to do one or more of three illegal acts:</p>
<p>1) move or attempt to move out himself or move her out of their shared home<br />
2) attempt to file or file for divorce<br />
3) attempt to withhold financial support</p>
<p>Crime #1 could be just reading the classified ads for apartments for rent.</p>
<p>Crime # 2 could be having lunch with a friend who is an attorney in a Family Law firm.</p>
<p>Crime # 3 could be losing your job.</p>
<p>AND &#8211; any/all of these acts or &#8220;attempts to act&#8221; would have to be proved to be about directly seeking to &#8220;pressure&#8221; her into terminating her pregnancy, right?</p>
<p>I think I understand the motive behind those passing this law.</p>
<p>This law was passed by anti-choice activists who want to make abortion more difficult, and they are using the threatened prosecution of men to realize their anti-abortion objectives.</p>
<p>It is not about men&#8217;s right at all.</p>
<p>Men are pawns in the scheme this law has created.</p>
<p>As usual, more bank for Family Court lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: DcFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>DcFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical.  Rights are for women, responsibility is for men, and if men act to protect themselves from their inferior rights, we&#039;ll make the perfectly legal into a criminal act.  I guess they are running out of superior rights to grant to females, and their only option at this point is to remove more liberty from men.

Does it never dawn on these idiots to make men equal to women in the first place, as The Constituion demands, or are they hell-bent on destroying the fabric of society and making only the dumbest of men willing to undergo even the slightest risk that they will procreate.  Eventually, we&#039;re heading to where it will only make sense NOT to abort a child if its a girl.  Who wants a slave child when they could have a queen bee.  

Think on this you dim-witted feminazis in the Michigan legislature: Stop trying to cover for the fact that you&#039;ve broken the law to make female &quot;choice&quot; as an excuse for murder, and you won&#039;t have to keep ruining more people&#039;s lives with police state control in a failed attempt to make female superiority workable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical.  Rights are for women, responsibility is for men, and if men act to protect themselves from their inferior rights, we&#8217;ll make the perfectly legal into a criminal act.  I guess they are running out of superior rights to grant to females, and their only option at this point is to remove more liberty from men.</p>
<p>Does it never dawn on these idiots to make men equal to women in the first place, as The Constituion demands, or are they hell-bent on destroying the fabric of society and making only the dumbest of men willing to undergo even the slightest risk that they will procreate.  Eventually, we&#8217;re heading to where it will only make sense NOT to abort a child if its a girl.  Who wants a slave child when they could have a queen bee.  </p>
<p>Think on this you dim-witted feminazis in the Michigan legislature: Stop trying to cover for the fact that you&#8217;ve broken the law to make female &#8220;choice&#8221; as an excuse for murder, and you won&#8217;t have to keep ruining more people&#8217;s lives with police state control in a failed attempt to make female superiority workable.</p>
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		<title>By: RScott</title>
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		<dc:creator>RScott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 18:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well John, don&#039;t be too offended, but the fact is that this is a further demonstration of the existing alliance between the religious right and the radical feminists!  Both groups see men as evil, as responsible for the independent choices of women, you name it.  You CANNOT marry a woman, NOR can you live with one and as potential laws such as this get passed, that will become ever more clear to all of us.  No wonder the number of children born outside marriage is increasing dramatically.  If you want to reduce the number of abortions, change the law to make it mandatory that the positive agreement of the father must be obtained before a child may be produced - once the cash incentive of producing a child is eliminated, the number of unplanned pregnancies will drop like a rock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well John, don&#8217;t be too offended, but the fact is that this is a further demonstration of the existing alliance between the religious right and the radical feminists!  Both groups see men as evil, as responsible for the independent choices of women, you name it.  You CANNOT marry a woman, NOR can you live with one and as potential laws such as this get passed, that will become ever more clear to all of us.  No wonder the number of children born outside marriage is increasing dramatically.  If you want to reduce the number of abortions, change the law to make it mandatory that the positive agreement of the father must be obtained before a child may be produced &#8211; once the cash incentive of producing a child is eliminated, the number of unplanned pregnancies will drop like a rock!</p>
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		<title>By: tonysprout</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonysprout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a violation of Freedom of speech / expression. The day of the man-tax is growing closer. For some, it&#039;s already here, but the day will come when an extra tax is applied to any citizen having a penis and will be transfered to any female having a need.
Don&#039;t we already pay for these bimbos with our blood, guts, limbs, and minds? Don&#039;t WE men pay for their freedom and right to vote? Don&#039;t we pay enough by doing the most dangerous jobs and by being killed in large numbers on those jobs? These C*NTS want Equality? They can&#039;t handle equality! They have no concept of what equality is! They have no concept of defending the Constitution; to them it&#039;s just a piece of shit paper written by men (ewww, yuck-men) ages ago. If we don&#039;t get our act together and stop these spineless attacks on our gender we&#039;ll all be speaking U.N.-ese. It will be written in stone that the only thing a man is good for is as sperm donors, wallets, and cannon fodder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a violation of Freedom of speech / expression. The day of the man-tax is growing closer. For some, it&#8217;s already here, but the day will come when an extra tax is applied to any citizen having a penis and will be transfered to any female having a need.<br />
Don&#8217;t we already pay for these bimbos with our blood, guts, limbs, and minds? Don&#8217;t WE men pay for their freedom and right to vote? Don&#8217;t we pay enough by doing the most dangerous jobs and by being killed in large numbers on those jobs? These C*NTS want Equality? They can&#8217;t handle equality! They have no concept of what equality is! They have no concept of defending the Constitution; to them it&#8217;s just a piece of shit paper written by men (ewww, yuck-men) ages ago. If we don&#8217;t get our act together and stop these spineless attacks on our gender we&#8217;ll all be speaking U.N.-ese. It will be written in stone that the only thing a man is good for is as sperm donors, wallets, and cannon fodder!</p>
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		<title>By: John Dias</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many on Mens News Daily may know, I&#039;m strongly pro-life and believe abortion to be a moral crime.  I strongly support legislation to restrict abortion in whatever way possible if it can prevent an unborn baby from being killed.

But I have to say this law doesn&#039;t seem to save any unborn baby&#039;s life.  The mother either gets on that medical table, spreads herself open for the abortionist to do his work, &lt;b&gt;or she doesn&#039;t.&lt;/b&gt;  Now she may feel pressure, but that&#039;s not the same thing as being forced.

This is all backwards.  Men are usually condemned by ideological feminists as abusers, or abusers in waiting.  The domestic violence courts routinely grant restraining orders on the flimsiest of evidence, all to force the breakup of a family or a couple.  If the man is being abusive, the answer is always to effect a separation so that the &quot;victim&quot; can leave her &quot;abuser.&quot;  Why now is there the emphasis for the abuser to stay with the victim?  

The answer is that it&#039;s all about the money.  The woman can claim victim status in a breakup, and extort money through alimony payments.  But this is often only temporary, commensurate with the length of the marriage or cohabiting relationship.  But when kids are involved, the woman has got herself a gravy train of continuous revenue if a breakup occurs and she gets custody.  Child support for 18 years -- and perhaps longer -- all without the requirement that the money be shown to have been spent on the child.  It&#039;s a money transfer, pure and simple.

But if there are no children in the picture yet, the woman&#039;s prospects for such a financial gravy train are comparatively dim.  Which is why we&#039;re now moving beyond child support to pregnancy support.  And like Glenn and Jeff wrote, it&#039;s possible that the pregnancy could be the result of an adulterous affair.  Once the baby is born, if it is born within the bounds of marriage, some states consider the baby to be a product of the marriage even if the husband did not father the baby.  It will then be his responsibility to raise that child, and to support it (i.e. support the mother) with child support in the event of a breakup.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I really do hate abortion.  It is a brutal and violent act against a true victim who has no choices at all.  It is the violence that the feminist movement has embraced, while the same movement purports to stand against violence.

I wish the proponents of this bill would see the true agenda.  Even I, an opponent of abortion, can see right through the ruse.  I hope calmer heads win the day.

John Dias</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many on Mens News Daily may know, I&#8217;m strongly pro-life and believe abortion to be a moral crime.  I strongly support legislation to restrict abortion in whatever way possible if it can prevent an unborn baby from being killed.</p>
<p>But I have to say this law doesn&#8217;t seem to save any unborn baby&#8217;s life.  The mother either gets on that medical table, spreads herself open for the abortionist to do his work, <b>or she doesn&#8217;t.</b>  Now she may feel pressure, but that&#8217;s not the same thing as being forced.</p>
<p>This is all backwards.  Men are usually condemned by ideological feminists as abusers, or abusers in waiting.  The domestic violence courts routinely grant restraining orders on the flimsiest of evidence, all to force the breakup of a family or a couple.  If the man is being abusive, the answer is always to effect a separation so that the &#8220;victim&#8221; can leave her &#8220;abuser.&#8221;  Why now is there the emphasis for the abuser to stay with the victim?  </p>
<p>The answer is that it&#8217;s all about the money.  The woman can claim victim status in a breakup, and extort money through alimony payments.  But this is often only temporary, commensurate with the length of the marriage or cohabiting relationship.  But when kids are involved, the woman has got herself a gravy train of continuous revenue if a breakup occurs and she gets custody.  Child support for 18 years &#8212; and perhaps longer &#8212; all without the requirement that the money be shown to have been spent on the child.  It&#8217;s a money transfer, pure and simple.</p>
<p>But if there are no children in the picture yet, the woman&#8217;s prospects for such a financial gravy train are comparatively dim.  Which is why we&#8217;re now moving beyond child support to pregnancy support.  And like Glenn and Jeff wrote, it&#8217;s possible that the pregnancy could be the result of an adulterous affair.  Once the baby is born, if it is born within the bounds of marriage, some states consider the baby to be a product of the marriage even if the husband did not father the baby.  It will then be his responsibility to raise that child, and to support it (i.e. support the mother) with child support in the event of a breakup.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I really do hate abortion.  It is a brutal and violent act against a true victim who has no choices at all.  It is the violence that the feminist movement has embraced, while the same movement purports to stand against violence.</p>
<p>I wish the proponents of this bill would see the true agenda.  Even I, an opponent of abortion, can see right through the ruse.  I hope calmer heads win the day.</p>
<p>John Dias</p>
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		<title>By: snootfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>snootfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 05:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The further enslavement of men. A man cannot safely divorce or even change living arrangements? The woman is throwing pots and pans at him. She is threatening him with the police. Yet, if he moves out or files for divorce, he can be charged with a crime (with the difference between legal choice and a crime being his &quot;intent&quot; which can be incorrectly inferred -- his real intent being to avoid violence or a false DV charge yet the woman and state inferring that he seeks to induce abortion). Good god. Of course, if there is disharmony in the relationship, the woman may infer whatever intent is likely to get him imprisoned. The state will pursue her vengence. Good god. Run for the hills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The further enslavement of men. A man cannot safely divorce or even change living arrangements? The woman is throwing pots and pans at him. She is threatening him with the police. Yet, if he moves out or files for divorce, he can be charged with a crime (with the difference between legal choice and a crime being his &#8220;intent&#8221; which can be incorrectly inferred &#8212; his real intent being to avoid violence or a false DV charge yet the woman and state inferring that he seeks to induce abortion). Good god. Of course, if there is disharmony in the relationship, the woman may infer whatever intent is likely to get him imprisoned. The state will pursue her vengence. Good god. Run for the hills.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is FORBIDDEN to hold a different opinion to a woman&#039;s. To argue is punishable. Takes &#039;Lets you and him fight&#039; to a whole new level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is FORBIDDEN to hold a different opinion to a woman&#8217;s. To argue is punishable. Takes &#8216;Lets you and him fight&#8217; to a whole new level.</p>
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