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		<title>By: thurston861</title>
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		<dc:creator>thurston861</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This excerpt from an Article on the Artist Poet William Blake makes danielboy&#039;s understanding completely accurate.

&quot;Mary Wollstonecraft, an early feminist; and Thomas Paine, American revolutionary. Along with William Wordsworth and William Godwin, Blake had great hopes for the American and French revolution and wore a red liberty cap in solidarity with the French revolutionaries, but despaired with the rise of Robespierre and the Reign of Terror in the French revolution.

Mary Wollstonecraft became a close friend, and Blake illustrated her Original Stories from Real Life (1788). They shared views on sexual equality and the institution of marriage. In 1793&#039;s Visions of the Daughters of Albion, Blake condemned the cruel absurdity of enforced chastity and marriage without love and defended the right of women to complete self-fulfillment.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This excerpt from an Article on the Artist Poet William Blake makes danielboy&#8217;s understanding completely accurate.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mary Wollstonecraft, an early feminist; and Thomas Paine, American revolutionary. Along with William Wordsworth and William Godwin, Blake had great hopes for the American and French revolution and wore a red liberty cap in solidarity with the French revolutionaries, but despaired with the rise of Robespierre and the Reign of Terror in the French revolution.</p>
<p>Mary Wollstonecraft became a close friend, and Blake illustrated her Original Stories from Real Life (1788). They shared views on sexual equality and the institution of marriage. In 1793&#8217;s Visions of the Daughters of Albion, Blake condemned the cruel absurdity of enforced chastity and marriage without love and defended the right of women to complete self-fulfillment.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wblackburn</title>
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		<dc:creator>wblackburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amfortas - I agree that mostly the video just shows the tendency for people to not want to get involved. There certainly have been enough cases of everyone ignoring things like this whether the victim was a man or a woman.

The part you had about the drowning girl, though, has me shaking with horror and outrage. That no one would help a drowning little girl, and that someone would videotape it, are incomprehensible to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amfortas &#8211; I agree that mostly the video just shows the tendency for people to not want to get involved. There certainly have been enough cases of everyone ignoring things like this whether the victim was a man or a woman.</p>
<p>The part you had about the drowning girl, though, has me shaking with horror and outrage. That no one would help a drowning little girl, and that someone would videotape it, are incomprehensible to me.</p>
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		<title>By: christianj</title>
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		<dc:creator>christianj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It did make me remember something that happened locally where a women tried to sue a man, who saved her life and claimed he did not do it right (say&#039;s a lot), thankfully we still have common sense Judges on this Planet and he reminded her that if he had not saved her she would not be here.

Does tend to discourage any heroics in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It did make me remember something that happened locally where a women tried to sue a man, who saved her life and claimed he did not do it right (say&#8217;s a lot), thankfully we still have common sense Judges on this Planet and he reminded her that if he had not saved her she would not be here.</p>
<p>Does tend to discourage any heroics in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: KRS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a first hand experience with this sort of thing about 20 years ago.  

I was entering a grocery store with my then 2-year-old daughter.  My ex and I were expecting our second chid and so I had recently been re-instructed in infant CPR, which was part of the Lamaze class I was in with my ex.

As my two year old and I approached the front door of the store, there was an elderly man sprawled out on the ground a few feet from the store entrance.  As I got closer I could see that people were walking around him to get in and out of the store, but nobody was stopping to help.  The guy&#039;s face was purple, and his hat was several feet from him, suggesting that maybe he was having a heart attack and fell to the ground or whatever.  He was motionless and his face was a deep shade of purple, so either this was a very quick heart attack and he was already deaf, or else he had been laying there a few minutes.  I don&#039;t know which.  

I immediately attmepted CPR on him as best I could, and I start pointing at various people who weer entering the store.  I ordered one of them to go into the store and call 911 and get an ambulance here immediately for an apparent heart attack victim.  I ordered another to go tell the store manager about the situation an have the store manager come out to help. 

As it turned out the man never recovered.  I never got a pulse nor a breath from him, and backed off when the abulnace EMTs arrived and let them take over.  I think the man was dead before I ever started trying to resuscitate him.  

What the situation taught me is that people react differently to stressful situations, and that you never really know how you yourself are going to react until you have to react to one yourself.  And yeah, I guess it taught me that some people just don&#039;t want to get involved.  But I think the bigger lesson was that people react differently under stress.  

This incident occurred in a midwestern &quot;city&quot; of about 100,000 people, which is surrounded by cornfields for at least 30 miles in every direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a first hand experience with this sort of thing about 20 years ago.  </p>
<p>I was entering a grocery store with my then 2-year-old daughter.  My ex and I were expecting our second chid and so I had recently been re-instructed in infant CPR, which was part of the Lamaze class I was in with my ex.</p>
<p>As my two year old and I approached the front door of the store, there was an elderly man sprawled out on the ground a few feet from the store entrance.  As I got closer I could see that people were walking around him to get in and out of the store, but nobody was stopping to help.  The guy&#8217;s face was purple, and his hat was several feet from him, suggesting that maybe he was having a heart attack and fell to the ground or whatever.  He was motionless and his face was a deep shade of purple, so either this was a very quick heart attack and he was already deaf, or else he had been laying there a few minutes.  I don&#8217;t know which.  </p>
<p>I immediately attmepted CPR on him as best I could, and I start pointing at various people who weer entering the store.  I ordered one of them to go into the store and call 911 and get an ambulance here immediately for an apparent heart attack victim.  I ordered another to go tell the store manager about the situation an have the store manager come out to help. </p>
<p>As it turned out the man never recovered.  I never got a pulse nor a breath from him, and backed off when the abulnace EMTs arrived and let them take over.  I think the man was dead before I ever started trying to resuscitate him.  </p>
<p>What the situation taught me is that people react differently to stressful situations, and that you never really know how you yourself are going to react until you have to react to one yourself.  And yeah, I guess it taught me that some people just don&#8217;t want to get involved.  But I think the bigger lesson was that people react differently under stress.  </p>
<p>This incident occurred in a midwestern &#8220;city&#8221; of about 100,000 people, which is surrounded by cornfields for at least 30 miles in every direction.</p>
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		<title>By: thurston861</title>
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		<dc:creator>thurston861</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 17:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole point of all of this is gauging reactions.

Everyone has an excuse, especially the cops who were off duty and unarmed.  The cops knew getting involved was dangerous as they would be held to a high standard of scrutiny and not protected by the government lawyers as they are off duty.

The women who banded together for the decision making orocess relied on concensus before taking action. Classic example of the functioning process of the society of women.

The woman walking alone felt empowered against men and was appaerently a foreigner who may have been subjected to disperate treatment in her original culture.  While the women in a group felt responsible for the condition of their immediate society, still needing concensus.

When a man is acting belligerent a single woman will get brave and intervene.

The score is this. Male on female violence is still unacceptable.

Even though violent female incarcerations are known and have risen in the last 100 years, Female on male violence is humorous not serious.

Those four women might represent the first meeting of minds that the double standard is now naked.

Even armed I was hesitant to get personally involved when I saw a woman beating her assailant&#039;s head repeatedly against a tree stump as his two friends watched or took her things.

Their failure to flee gave me the impression they knew each other. 

I did call the cops though.

I agree, surveilence is the key.

What are the poor who cannot afford the equipment, or wives control all the money to do?

I have been there on the financial end.

Looks like since women cannot be held to any agreements there is no safety and one should not play the game without all of the tools first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole point of all of this is gauging reactions.</p>
<p>Everyone has an excuse, especially the cops who were off duty and unarmed.  The cops knew getting involved was dangerous as they would be held to a high standard of scrutiny and not protected by the government lawyers as they are off duty.</p>
<p>The women who banded together for the decision making orocess relied on concensus before taking action. Classic example of the functioning process of the society of women.</p>
<p>The woman walking alone felt empowered against men and was appaerently a foreigner who may have been subjected to disperate treatment in her original culture.  While the women in a group felt responsible for the condition of their immediate society, still needing concensus.</p>
<p>When a man is acting belligerent a single woman will get brave and intervene.</p>
<p>The score is this. Male on female violence is still unacceptable.</p>
<p>Even though violent female incarcerations are known and have risen in the last 100 years, Female on male violence is humorous not serious.</p>
<p>Those four women might represent the first meeting of minds that the double standard is now naked.</p>
<p>Even armed I was hesitant to get personally involved when I saw a woman beating her assailant&#8217;s head repeatedly against a tree stump as his two friends watched or took her things.</p>
<p>Their failure to flee gave me the impression they knew each other. </p>
<p>I did call the cops though.</p>
<p>I agree, surveilence is the key.</p>
<p>What are the poor who cannot afford the equipment, or wives control all the money to do?</p>
<p>I have been there on the financial end.</p>
<p>Looks like since women cannot be held to any agreements there is no safety and one should not play the game without all of the tools first.</p>
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		<title>By: TheManOnTheStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheManOnTheStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us not loose sight that the message IS indeed getting out there.  Eventually someone did something. And to my amazement, it was a group of 4 women that stepped up to the plate.  One attempted to intervene while another reported it (accurately*) to the police.


*accurately meaning that she reported that the woman was out of control and beating on the man...that an officer should be dispatched.

TMOTS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us not loose sight that the message IS indeed getting out there.  Eventually someone did something. And to my amazement, it was a group of 4 women that stepped up to the plate.  One attempted to intervene while another reported it (accurately*) to the police.</p>
<p>*accurately meaning that she reported that the woman was out of control and beating on the man&#8230;that an officer should be dispatched.</p>
<p>TMOTS</p>
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		<title>By: snootfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>snootfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dannieboy57,

I think you know quite a bit.
I think you have it dead on.

Also, a woman is entitled to find herself, fulfill herself, become independent, etc. 

I think she is given license to cheat even irrespective of the assumed guilt of the man.

Women are not held to any agreement or standard. 

This has been true in intimate relationship for some time. I see it more and more in business relationships also. Every really good screwing I have suffered in business for the last several years has been the result of female customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dannieboy57,</p>
<p>I think you know quite a bit.<br />
I think you have it dead on.</p>
<p>Also, a woman is entitled to find herself, fulfill herself, become independent, etc. </p>
<p>I think she is given license to cheat even irrespective of the assumed guilt of the man.</p>
<p>Women are not held to any agreement or standard. </p>
<p>This has been true in intimate relationship for some time. I see it more and more in business relationships also. Every really good screwing I have suffered in business for the last several years has been the result of female customer.</p>
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		<title>By: donnieboy57</title>
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		<dc:creator>donnieboy57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IF a women cheats on a man, it is because he abused their relationship and she needed space, a new start and solace in her personal grief.  If a man cheats on a women, he has abused the relationship and the women can now do as she wishes (both physically and legally), because she needs space, a new start and solace in her personal grief. But what do I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF a women cheats on a man, it is because he abused their relationship and she needed space, a new start and solace in her personal grief.  If a man cheats on a women, he has abused the relationship and the women can now do as she wishes (both physically and legally), because she needs space, a new start and solace in her personal grief. But what do I know.</p>
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		<title>By: tonysprout</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonysprout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Violence against men is not only accepted by society,many consider it humorous. Latest issue of Readers Digest, a magazine that claims to be a family magazine, carried a joke about a wife giving a man two black eyes for, I assume, cheating. Apparently, cheating is a valid reason to commit DV; whoops, that&#039;s only if you&#039;re a female. If a woman cheats on a man, well he just better walk away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Violence against men is not only accepted by society,many consider it humorous. Latest issue of Readers Digest, a magazine that claims to be a family magazine, carried a joke about a wife giving a man two black eyes for, I assume, cheating. Apparently, cheating is a valid reason to commit DV; whoops, that&#8217;s only if you&#8217;re a female. If a woman cheats on a man, well he just better walk away.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reminded of a dreadful incident many years ago in New York (I think) where a young woman was murdered in a busy street. A man beat her and stabbed her. People walked around her dying body, hurrying on, not getting involved even to call for help for her. She was begging for help. As she died.

I am amongst the first to recognise and shout about the scandalous misandry in our society, but what this video shows is the everyday cowardice of people, not simply misandric nonchalance.

People don&#039;t want to get involved. 

I saw another video only a few months a go of a crowded park where a little girl drowned in a lake a few yards from the bank where people were lounging around in the sun. Some were watching this child drown. This was a video of the actual event. Someone videoed the drowning. They didn&#039;t rush in to save the child. There must have been 30 adults within 40 yards of this child, some only 10 yards away. Men. Women. Young men and women. NO ONE ran into the water. It was not deep.

I cried. For the little girl. For our society where so many have no morality at all. No courage at all. Dead souls.

Our empathetic society, so improved by the woman&#039;s touch. God help us all. We reap what we sow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of a dreadful incident many years ago in New York (I think) where a young woman was murdered in a busy street. A man beat her and stabbed her. People walked around her dying body, hurrying on, not getting involved even to call for help for her. She was begging for help. As she died.</p>
<p>I am amongst the first to recognise and shout about the scandalous misandry in our society, but what this video shows is the everyday cowardice of people, not simply misandric nonchalance.</p>
<p>People don&#8217;t want to get involved. </p>
<p>I saw another video only a few months a go of a crowded park where a little girl drowned in a lake a few yards from the bank where people were lounging around in the sun. Some were watching this child drown. This was a video of the actual event. Someone videoed the drowning. They didn&#8217;t rush in to save the child. There must have been 30 adults within 40 yards of this child, some only 10 yards away. Men. Women. Young men and women. NO ONE ran into the water. It was not deep.</p>
<p>I cried. For the little girl. For our society where so many have no morality at all. No courage at all. Dead souls.</p>
<p>Our empathetic society, so improved by the woman&#8217;s touch. God help us all. We reap what we sow.</p>
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