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The Culture of Permanent Boyhood

2007-01-01
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What do you think of when someone mentions “men’s entertainment?” Probably strip clubs, Playboy, pornography or other penis-centric activities. Behavior once characterized by a pubescent seventh-grader has been established as the gold standard of manhood.

This attitude pervades the sex-crazed Western world. When in Italy a few years ago I noticed frequent nudity during TV commercials. Almost every time a topless woman was show, the commercial was for a cell phone. I have yet to place the connection between naked women and text messaging. While commercials shown in the United States are not quite as exhibitionist, they still suffer from the same sexual pathology.

Almost every movie that attempts to cater to a male audience will include obviously gratuitous nudity. Commercials that market products to men will likely include some female model. As the saying goes, “sex sells.” Technology conferences that include product expos include the gratuitous “booth babes” that attract men by their pants instead of their minds. The same is true for auto expos.

It is easy to blame marketers for using women as cheap props and catering to the worst in men. The fact is, however, marketers would cease using sexuality in an instant if it didn’t work. Society has socialized men into being led around by their pants. The few men that speak out against such insipid nonsense are instantly labeled as dweebs.

Historically, this pattern of male over-sexualization has not been the norm. Men who openly lusted after women were derided and viewed as dishonorable. Those who engaged in premarital sex where shunned by their families and communities. Women, for their part, would simply not tolerate men who could not control their libidos. The rule didn’t necessarily hold for the cultural elite. Their morals have always been more flexible in every time and civilization. However, they still maintained the public façade of fidelity.

The rise of feminism and the sexual revolution has altered this dynamic. Previously, male sexual wanderlust was generally opposed by women. Women used their position to enforce, to some extent, male sexual fidelity. The sexual revolution and the brands of feminism that drove it dealt with the problem differently.

The anecdote most commonly heard is how unfair that a man who sleeps around is a “stud” and that a woman who does the same is a “slut.” The implication that generally follows is that a woman should be allowed to be just as promiscuous as men seem to be. It quietly assumed that the worst men among us were the model of manhood and then held up the model for women to emulate.

To be fair, feminism (or more precisely “Sex and the City feminism”) is not to blame for the boyish tendencies of the modern male. Those tendencies have existed since the beginning of time. However, by encouraging the behavior by labeling it normal and then encouraging women to do the same has made the problem epidemic.

The result has been nothing short of tragic. Young men and women simply do not know how to relate to each other outside the bedroom. When talking about women’s health, odds are the conversation is solely around birth control. Discussions on men’s health are more likely about sexual performance. Sex is meant to precede relationships, not flow naturally from them. Men have always been averse to commitment. Society now encourages this behavior.

The true brunt of this boyishness is felt by women. They are generally left raising children alone by men who refuse to commit. Most studies indicate men are more likely to cheat than women. Additional studies show the emotional devastation that women endure when they find their spouses are frequent purveyors of pornography (i.e. Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy, 28, 198-206).

Men are harmed, albeit to a lesser degree. They are left unable to engage in an intimate relationship with a woman. They enter loveless after loveless relationship never able to look at their partner as anything more than an object. Over the long term, they begin to feel the brunt of loneliness and emptiness.

It is time that both men and women stand up and say enough is enough. Women, for their part, need to insist on sexual maturity from men they are or will be involved with. Men must not tolerate those among us to continue to act like pubescent 13-year-olds. Until more people stand up and treat sex as sacred instead of a worthless commodity to be traded without thought, the damage to women and men will continue.

John Bambenek is the Assistant Politics Editor for Blogcritics and is an academic professional for the University of Illinois. He is a syndicated columnist who blogs at Part-Time Pundit and the executive director of The Tumaini Foundation which helps AIDS orphans and other children in Tanzania to get an education. He is the current owner of BlogSoldiers, a blog-only traffic exchange.

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  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Mirwalk,

    The fact that some women do not live up to their part of the bargain is not a justification for men to sink to their level. Are you a MAN or are you just a dog to be controlled by your hormones?

    Presumably we do what is right because it the right thing to do, not because we might gain from it or because we expect others to live up to our standards.

    You either do that which is right or you do that which is wrong. In this case, there is no in between.

    As a Christian, I choose to do that which I know to be right. On occasion I get burned, usually I don’t. That is a price I am willing to pay.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Mirwalk,

    The fact that some women do not live up to their part of the bargain is not a justification for men to sink to their level. Are you a MAN or are you just a dog to be controlled by your hormones?

    Presumably we do what is right because it the right thing to do, not because we might gain from it or because we expect others to live up to our standards.

    You either do that which is right or you do that which is wrong. In this case, there is no in between.

    As a Christian, I choose to do that which I know to be right. On occasion I get burned, usually I don’t. That is a price I am willing to pay.

  • supamike

    If women seek out these type of men, then much of this responsibilities start with women.

    I have said it before, their is a fear in men to demand of women what they should. A man who thinks that women are less human beings tend to think this way.

    The debate seems to be that there men who think that curing our issues starts with men who will act responsibly to women, and then women will fall into place…Then there are menwho see the truth before them, that western women have to be held to much more account to their choices…

  • supamike

    If women seek out these type of men, then much of this responsibilities start with women.

    I have said it before, their is a fear in men to demand of women what they should. A man who thinks that women are less human beings tend to think this way.

    The debate seems to be that there men who think that curing our issues starts with men who will act responsibly to women, and then women will fall into place…Then there are menwho see the truth before them, that western women have to be held to much more account to their choices…

  • supamike

    If women seek out these type of men, then much of this responsibilities start with women.

    I have said it before, their is a fear in men to demand of women what they should. A man who thinks that women are less human beings tend to think this way.

    The debate seems to be that there men who think that curing our issues starts with men who will act responsibly to women, and then women will fall into place…Then there are menwho see the truth before them, that western women have to be held to much more account to their choices…

  • mirwalk

    Alright, I now feel I need to fully weigh in on this. The deterioration of mens drives and aims, the reversion to boyishness as you put it, is a lamentable fact. However, your calls for men to stand up and take our responsibilities are quite abusrd in my opinion. The fact is that a man who takes on these responsibilities, will usually be bitten in the arse by it.

    Marriage, divorce, child support, claims of abuse, ect. These are all more likely if you are a full man and take your responsibilites. If you instead love em and leave em… then you only have the chance of false rape charges compared to alot of others.

    I think that the better place to start is by having women take their responsibilities more seriously. Then it will be simple for men to take theirs. The loss of our manliness is in due to the fact that women do not allow us to assume those roles that we once filled. Without our roles our manliness counts for squat. So we have adapted to the new rules. Unfortunately, this is a ruleset where everyone tries to screw everyone else over and are all out for themselves.

    Having one side of the equation try to assume their responsiblities in the face of ther other side trying to give away all responsbilities is not the answer. There are plenty of men left that will do the proper thing, but only with the proper woman. Unfortunately, they have all but become extinct.

    At least this is my point of view. If you wish to condemn it as childlike, a tantrum, or cynicism, feel free. That however will only be YOUR opinion.

  • mirwalk

    Alright, I now feel I need to fully weigh in on this. The deterioration of mens drives and aims, the reversion to boyishness as you put it, is a lamentable fact. However, your calls for men to stand up and take our responsibilities are quite abusrd in my opinion. The fact is that a man who takes on these responsibilities, will usually be bitten in the arse by it.

    Marriage, divorce, child support, claims of abuse, ect. These are all more likely if you are a full man and take your responsibilites. If you instead love em and leave em… then you only have the chance of false rape charges compared to alot of others.

    I think that the better place to start is by having women take their responsibilities more seriously. Then it will be simple for men to take theirs. The loss of our manliness is in due to the fact that women do not allow us to assume those roles that we once filled. Without our roles our manliness counts for squat. So we have adapted to the new rules. Unfortunately, this is a ruleset where everyone tries to screw everyone else over and are all out for themselves.

    Having one side of the equation try to assume their responsiblities in the face of ther other side trying to give away all responsbilities is not the answer. There are plenty of men left that will do the proper thing, but only with the proper woman. Unfortunately, they have all but become extinct.

    At least this is my point of view. If you wish to condemn it as childlike, a tantrum, or cynicism, feel free. That however will only be YOUR opinion.

  • mirwalk

    Alright, I now feel I need to fully weigh in on this. The deterioration of mens drives and aims, the reversion to boyishness as you put it, is a lamentable fact. However, your calls for men to stand up and take our responsibilities are quite abusrd in my opinion. The fact is that a man who takes on these responsibilities, will usually be bitten in the arse by it.

    Marriage, divorce, child support, claims of abuse, ect. These are all more likely if you are a full man and take your responsibilites. If you instead love em and leave em… then you only have the chance of false rape charges compared to alot of others.

    I think that the better place to start is by having women take their responsibilities more seriously. Then it will be simple for men to take theirs. The loss of our manliness is in due to the fact that women do not allow us to assume those roles that we once filled. Without our roles our manliness counts for squat. So we have adapted to the new rules. Unfortunately, this is a ruleset where everyone tries to screw everyone else over and are all out for themselves.

    Having one side of the equation try to assume their responsiblities in the face of ther other side trying to give away all responsbilities is not the answer. There are plenty of men left that will do the proper thing, but only with the proper woman. Unfortunately, they have all but become extinct.

    At least this is my point of view. If you wish to condemn it as childlike, a tantrum, or cynicism, feel free. That however will only be YOUR opinion.

  • Denis

    amfortas-always enjoy reading what you have to say.

    ditto:
    snootfish

    ditto:
    bombbombbombbomb

    I often find the most inspiring and thought provoking ideas coming from the posters and not the “columnists”.

    Thanks for the commentary guys.

  • Denis

    amfortas-always enjoy reading what you have to say.

    ditto:
    snootfish

    ditto:
    bombbombbombbomb

    I often find the most inspiring and thought provoking ideas coming from the posters and not the “columnists”.

    Thanks for the commentary guys.

  • Denis

    amfortas-always enjoy reading what you have to say.

    ditto:
    snootfish

    ditto:
    bombbombbombbomb

    I often find the most inspiring and thought provoking ideas coming from the posters and not the “columnists”.

    Thanks for the commentary guys.

  • bombbombbombbomb

    “Marginalizing yourself from healthy relationships because you hate an ideological enemy like “Feminism” is not reasonable. Feminism is a mirage.”

    Those Jews who “marginalize” themselves from the NAZI ideology most likely faired better than those who thought it was a mirage. Mankind may be of one flesh, but the Feminists like the NAZIs, by their very nature, think and act otherwise.

    I think no one here would marginalize themselves from a “healthy” relationship, the problem is the small probability of having and maintaining one in our modern feminist world regardless how “Manly” you are.

  • bombbombbombbomb

    “Marginalizing yourself from healthy relationships because you hate an ideological enemy like “Feminism” is not reasonable. Feminism is a mirage.”

    Those Jews who “marginalize” themselves from the NAZI ideology most likely faired better than those who thought it was a mirage. Mankind may be of one flesh, but the Feminists like the NAZIs, by their very nature, think and act otherwise.

    I think no one here would marginalize themselves from a “healthy” relationship, the problem is the small probability of having and maintaining one in our modern feminist world regardless how “Manly” you are.

  • bombbombbombbomb

    “Marginalizing yourself from healthy relationships because you hate an ideological enemy like “Feminism” is not reasonable. Feminism is a mirage.”

    Those Jews who “marginalize” themselves from the NAZI ideology most likely faired better than those who thought it was a mirage. Mankind may be of one flesh, but the Feminists like the NAZIs, by their very nature, think and act otherwise.

    I think no one here would marginalize themselves from a “healthy” relationship, the problem is the small probability of having and maintaining one in our modern feminist world regardless how “Manly” you are.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    All I meant to say was that – in this case – “feminism” is a feint when the term is used as a shim for simple misogyny.
    I agree that there is a virtual beast at large and that this living animal has a shared identity that you and I might think of as “feminism”. It’s a set of shared ideals and practices that have a harmful impact on the family unit, and that tendentiously marginalize men from their families. In that sense, “Feminism” is a pernicious ideology.

    But then, so is ‘misogyny’ – which I am bound to reject with the same vigor as I reject misandry.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    All I meant to say was that – in this case – “feminism” is a feint when the term is used as a shim for simple misogyny.
    I agree that there is a virtual beast at large and that this living animal has a shared identity that you and I might think of as “feminism”. It’s a set of shared ideals and practices that have a harmful impact on the family unit, and that tendentiously marginalize men from their families. In that sense, “Feminism” is a pernicious ideology.

    But then, so is ‘misogyny’ – which I am bound to reject with the same vigor as I reject misandry.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    All I meant to say was that – in this case – “feminism” is a feint when the term is used as a shim for simple misogyny.
    I agree that there is a virtual beast at large and that this living animal has a shared identity that you and I might think of as “feminism”. It’s a set of shared ideals and practices that have a harmful impact on the family unit, and that tendentiously marginalize men from their families. In that sense, “Feminism” is a pernicious ideology.

    But then, so is ‘misogyny’ – which I am bound to reject with the same vigor as I reject misandry.

  • snootfish

    Feminism is not a mirage. Tell that to the man handcuff and taken to jail for no reason at all other than his gender (a woman would never be arrested under similar circumstances). Tell that to the man who has his paycheck reduced nearly in half every month for children that he never sees and who have been taught to hate him. Tell that to the man rotting in prison for a rape he never committed (or child abuse he never committed) due to rigged rules of court and evidence applicable in no case other than these types of cases against men. Tell that to the man who is shot in the head and who looks down from his place in the heavens to see his attacker never even prosecuted or possible acquitted based on vague accusations that he was abusive (she is the one who shot in the head yet he is abusive). More examples could be given. No, feminism is not a mirage. It is something very, very real. It really hurts people. Anger is natural and appropriate. In fact, people who don’t feel anger under these types of circumstances would have a real problem.

  • snootfish

    Feminism is not a mirage. Tell that to the man handcuff and taken to jail for no reason at all other than his gender (a woman would never be arrested under similar circumstances). Tell that to the man who has his paycheck reduced nearly in half every month for children that he never sees and who have been taught to hate him. Tell that to the man rotting in prison for a rape he never committed (or child abuse he never committed) due to rigged rules of court and evidence applicable in no case other than these types of cases against men. Tell that to the man who is shot in the head and who looks down from his place in the heavens to see his attacker never even prosecuted or possible acquitted based on vague accusations that he was abusive (she is the one who shot in the head yet he is abusive). More examples could be given. No, feminism is not a mirage. It is something very, very real. It really hurts people. Anger is natural and appropriate. In fact, people who don’t feel anger under these types of circumstances would have a real problem.

  • snootfish

    Feminism is not a mirage. Tell that to the man handcuff and taken to jail for no reason at all other than his gender (a woman would never be arrested under similar circumstances). Tell that to the man who has his paycheck reduced nearly in half every month for children that he never sees and who have been taught to hate him. Tell that to the man rotting in prison for a rape he never committed (or child abuse he never committed) due to rigged rules of court and evidence applicable in no case other than these types of cases against men. Tell that to the man who is shot in the head and who looks down from his place in the heavens to see his attacker never even prosecuted or possible acquitted based on vague accusations that he was abusive (she is the one who shot in the head yet he is abusive). More examples could be given. No, feminism is not a mirage. It is something very, very real. It really hurts people. Anger is natural and appropriate. In fact, people who don’t feel anger under these types of circumstances would have a real problem.

  • http://lovability.org amfortas

    Legitimate anger is an emotion caused when we are blocked from our legitimate aims. It is a valid and natural emotion. It can be a healthy drive to bring about change.There are also emotional outbursts which are part of the human condition, that are illigitimate and caused by fantasms of the mind. Illigitimate aims blocked can also induce anger and it is very clear that what feminists get angry over can be the most trivial of narcissistic desires and the drive for control. A pathological drive that destroys others. I do not seek to control but do seek to resist the Lies and repetitions of Lies.

    But to say that Feminism is a ‘mirage’ is mistaken. Mirages affect the senses, particularly the visual cortex, through reflection of something real but at a distance. This does not describe Feminism which had a profound effect on out institutions, is right here infront of me and seriously damages the physical existence of many, many people, women as well as men. Feminism is real.

    My ‘outburst’ was legitimate but crude. That’s all. Crude makes a point.

    Bambenek’s reponse is a mere superficial avoidance, unworthy of an intellect.

    Feminism will not be destroyed without righteous anger. Even Jesus got angry – aye, and violent – in the Temple courtyard. He sent the merchants fleeing when he unleashed his rage at their mere insult to His Father. He used a whip, I understand. That’s all that was handy, is my guess. What He could have done had He an Uzi, thankfully we will never know.

  • http://lovability.org amfortas

    Legitimate anger is an emotion caused when we are blocked from our legitimate aims. It is a valid and natural emotion. It can be a healthy drive to bring about change.There are also emotional outbursts which are part of the human condition, that are illigitimate and caused by fantasms of the mind. Illigitimate aims blocked can also induce anger and it is very clear that what feminists get angry over can be the most trivial of narcissistic desires and the drive for control. A pathological drive that destroys others. I do not seek to control but do seek to resist the Lies and repetitions of Lies.

    But to say that Feminism is a ‘mirage’ is mistaken. Mirages affect the senses, particularly the visual cortex, through reflection of something real but at a distance. This does not describe Feminism which had a profound effect on out institutions, is right here infront of me and seriously damages the physical existence of many, many people, women as well as men. Feminism is real.

    My ‘outburst’ was legitimate but crude. That’s all. Crude makes a point.

    Bambenek’s reponse is a mere superficial avoidance, unworthy of an intellect.

    Feminism will not be destroyed without righteous anger. Even Jesus got angry – aye, and violent – in the Temple courtyard. He sent the merchants fleeing when he unleashed his rage at their mere insult to His Father. He used a whip, I understand. That’s all that was handy, is my guess. What He could have done had He an Uzi, thankfully we will never know.

  • http://lovability.org amfortas

    Legitimate anger is an emotion caused when we are blocked from our legitimate aims. It is a valid and natural emotion. It can be a healthy drive to bring about change.There are also emotional outbursts which are part of the human condition, that are illigitimate and caused by fantasms of the mind. Illigitimate aims blocked can also induce anger and it is very clear that what feminists get angry over can be the most trivial of narcissistic desires and the drive for control. A pathological drive that destroys others. I do not seek to control but do seek to resist the Lies and repetitions of Lies.

    But to say that Feminism is a ‘mirage’ is mistaken. Mirages affect the senses, particularly the visual cortex, through reflection of something real but at a distance. This does not describe Feminism which had a profound effect on out institutions, is right here infront of me and seriously damages the physical existence of many, many people, women as well as men. Feminism is real.

    My ‘outburst’ was legitimate but crude. That’s all. Crude makes a point.

    Bambenek’s reponse is a mere superficial avoidance, unworthy of an intellect.

    Feminism will not be destroyed without righteous anger. Even Jesus got angry – aye, and violent – in the Temple courtyard. He sent the merchants fleeing when he unleashed his rage at their mere insult to His Father. He used a whip, I understand. That’s all that was handy, is my guess. What He could have done had He an Uzi, thankfully we will never know.

  • supamike

    We must also consider that women are attracted to men who they now call the “Alpha Males” who are actually men who represent the irresponsible men, who cannot or will not do right by their children.

  • supamike

    We must also consider that women are attracted to men who they now call the “Alpha Males” who are actually men who represent the irresponsible men, who cannot or will not do right by their children.

  • supamike

    We must also consider that women are attracted to men who they now call the “Alpha Males” who are actually men who represent the irresponsible men, who cannot or will not do right by their children.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    donnieboy, badger,

    The equivalent is to say:

    “Terrorists use violence against civilians to pursue their political objectives so why can’t we?”

    Just isn’t done, old boy.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    donnieboy, badger,

    The equivalent is to say:

    “Terrorists use violence against civilians to pursue their political objectives so why can’t we?”

    Just isn’t done, old boy.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    donnieboy, badger,

    The equivalent is to say:

    “Terrorists use violence against civilians to pursue their political objectives so why can’t we?”

    Just isn’t done, old boy.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Anger is born of fear. Fear is born from a lack of faith in God. To live in anger is to live a life that is unhealthy.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with feeling anger, it is a natural emotion, but to dwell in it, to feed it, and not to recover from it is unhealthy. It is only through forgiveness that healing can occur. You may not like it, but it is a fact.

    “Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

    Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.”

    Roger,

    YOur comments about our forefathers are irrelevent…unless you have decided that only by taking up arms can feminism be stopped.

    Besides, the words they used were not nearly so immoderate as yours.

    “Let them eat cake,” was spoken by a disinterested and uninformed soul (Marie Antoinette) who was not seeking to solve the problem being addressed.

    Real revolution is not an emotional act, it is an act which comes from deliberate consideration. If words would have sufficed, they would have used them. In fact they did use them extensively. The decision to declare independence was debated for a considerable amount of time…”Fools rush in…” and all that stuff.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Anger is born of fear. Fear is born from a lack of faith in God. To live in anger is to live a life that is unhealthy.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with feeling anger, it is a natural emotion, but to dwell in it, to feed it, and not to recover from it is unhealthy. It is only through forgiveness that healing can occur. You may not like it, but it is a fact.

    “Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

    Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.”

    Roger,

    YOur comments about our forefathers are irrelevent…unless you have decided that only by taking up arms can feminism be stopped.

    Besides, the words they used were not nearly so immoderate as yours.

    “Let them eat cake,” was spoken by a disinterested and uninformed soul (Marie Antoinette) who was not seeking to solve the problem being addressed.

    Real revolution is not an emotional act, it is an act which comes from deliberate consideration. If words would have sufficed, they would have used them. In fact they did use them extensively. The decision to declare independence was debated for a considerable amount of time…”Fools rush in…” and all that stuff.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    Anger is born of fear. Fear is born from a lack of faith in God. To live in anger is to live a life that is unhealthy.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with feeling anger, it is a natural emotion, but to dwell in it, to feed it, and not to recover from it is unhealthy. It is only through forgiveness that healing can occur. You may not like it, but it is a fact.

    “Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

    Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.”

    Roger,

    YOur comments about our forefathers are irrelevent…unless you have decided that only by taking up arms can feminism be stopped.

    Besides, the words they used were not nearly so immoderate as yours.

    “Let them eat cake,” was spoken by a disinterested and uninformed soul (Marie Antoinette) who was not seeking to solve the problem being addressed.

    Real revolution is not an emotional act, it is an act which comes from deliberate consideration. If words would have sufficed, they would have used them. In fact they did use them extensively. The decision to declare independence was debated for a considerable amount of time…”Fools rush in…” and all that stuff.

  • badger

    Excellent point donnieboy57. You hit the nail on both of their heads. When frustration in the form of the written word comes from a man we are told to grow up or the nearest police officer is called. It is so typical of “manginas” (and I will use the word again) along with the fembot crowd to try to throw it back in our face. They have nothing of relevence to say. It is all so obvious. Typical cultish twaddle.

  • badger

    Excellent point donnieboy57. You hit the nail on both of their heads. When frustration in the form of the written word comes from a man we are told to grow up or the nearest police officer is called. It is so typical of “manginas” (and I will use the word again) along with the fembot crowd to try to throw it back in our face. They have nothing of relevence to say. It is all so obvious. Typical cultish twaddle.

  • badger

    Excellent point donnieboy57. You hit the nail on both of their heads. When frustration in the form of the written word comes from a man we are told to grow up or the nearest police officer is called. It is so typical of “manginas” (and I will use the word again) along with the fembot crowd to try to throw it back in our face. They have nothing of relevence to say. It is all so obvious. Typical cultish twaddle.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    Men and women are both of the same flesh. That’s not merely poetic metaphor – it’s fact. You cannot have one without the other.

    Marginalizing yourself from healthy relationships because you hate an ideological enemy like “Feminism” is not reasonable. Feminism is a mirage.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    Men and women are both of the same flesh. That’s not merely poetic metaphor – it’s fact. You cannot have one without the other.

    Marginalizing yourself from healthy relationships because you hate an ideological enemy like “Feminism” is not reasonable. Feminism is a mirage.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    Men and women are both of the same flesh. That’s not merely poetic metaphor – it’s fact. You cannot have one without the other.

    Marginalizing yourself from healthy relationships because you hate an ideological enemy like “Feminism” is not reasonable. Feminism is a mirage.

  • bombbombbombbomb

    John Bambenek said,

    “Thank you all for proving the central thesis of my piece. You react with criticism not with intelligent comments, but the temper tantrum of a child who just got his toy taken away.”

    There were many intelligent comments based on published papers and experience. Your response stiffled any further commuciation, not the passionate response to your article. It is the height of ego to suggest that there are no intelligent comments. Mangina truly does seem to describe your position and actions.

  • bombbombbombbomb

    John Bambenek said,

    “Thank you all for proving the central thesis of my piece. You react with criticism not with intelligent comments, but the temper tantrum of a child who just got his toy taken away.”

    There were many intelligent comments based on published papers and experience. Your response stiffled any further commuciation, not the passionate response to your article. It is the height of ego to suggest that there are no intelligent comments. Mangina truly does seem to describe your position and actions.

  • bombbombbombbomb

    John Bambenek said,

    “Thank you all for proving the central thesis of my piece. You react with criticism not with intelligent comments, but the temper tantrum of a child who just got his toy taken away.”

    There were many intelligent comments based on published papers and experience. Your response stiffled any further commuciation, not the passionate response to your article. It is the height of ego to suggest that there are no intelligent comments. Mangina truly does seem to describe your position and actions.

  • donnieboy57

    Has anyone but me ever noticed that when a women has an emotional outburst she is just getting in touch with here feelings and reacting to evil men. When a man has an emotional out burst, he is acting childish and brutish. WE can’t get “up”for anything anymore, unless its for the pleasure a women. I say revolt!

  • donnieboy57

    Has anyone but me ever noticed that when a women has an emotional outburst she is just getting in touch with here feelings and reacting to evil men. When a man has an emotional out burst, he is acting childish and brutish. WE can’t get “up”for anything anymore, unless its for the pleasure a women. I say revolt!

  • donnieboy57

    Has anyone but me ever noticed that when a women has an emotional outburst she is just getting in touch with here feelings and reacting to evil men. When a man has an emotional out burst, he is acting childish and brutish. WE can’t get “up”for anything anymore, unless its for the pleasure a women. I say revolt!

  • http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com Roger Knight

    John Bambenek, Will Malven, please give me a break!
    Here is what each of you do:
    Get married, have children. When the children are about two years old, have your wife change her mind, get a lawyer, and then pull the old protection order trick where you are found guilty of “committing domestic violence” for doing nothing more than raising your voice when the credit card bill comes in or leaving the toilet seat up. No opportunity for cross examination, not one shred of evidence to back up her LIES and PERJURY, and poof! You are out of your OWN house that was paid for out of YOUR PAYCHECKS, prohibited from any contact whatsoever with your children, and your right to keep and bear arms is GONE, baby!
    And that is only the BEGINNING.
    It will never matter whether you ever did anything wrong; for what you did wrong was to become a husband and a father.
    Mr. Bambenek, do you seriously consider Washington, Jefferson, John Hancock, the Adams Family, etc. as bunch of crybabies who did not get their way with the British authorities and threw a temper tantrum called the American Revolution? The same goes for Nat Turner and Sparticus? The Iraqis whose families were murdered when they taunted So Damned Insane as he stood on the gallows trapdoor?
    Being a smug college professor with tenure, I would not be surprized.
    You see, just about everyone involved in the American Revolution believed that death to the tyrants was a reasonable way to deal with them. The French went beyond that a few years later.
    Victims of tyranny are often not willing to be polite and speak in soft terms relying on sweet reason because it is our bitter experience that such does not work!
    The problem with tyrants is that they are UNREASONABLE.
    Nazis. Feminazis. The Child Support Crusade. Islamofascists. So Damned Insane. Slave owners. They are all the same in that they do not give a damn about your rights or whether what they demand of you is reasonable.
    And all such tyrants are aided and abetted by the clueless indifference of “Let ‘em eat cake” and “Thank you all for proving the central thesis of my piece. You react with criticism not with intelligent comments, but the temper tantrum of a child who just got his toy taken away.”

  • http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com Roger Knight

    John Bambenek, Will Malven, please give me a break!
    Here is what each of you do:
    Get married, have children. When the children are about two years old, have your wife change her mind, get a lawyer, and then pull the old protection order trick where you are found guilty of “committing domestic violence” for doing nothing more than raising your voice when the credit card bill comes in or leaving the toilet seat up. No opportunity for cross examination, not one shred of evidence to back up her LIES and PERJURY, and poof! You are out of your OWN house that was paid for out of YOUR PAYCHECKS, prohibited from any contact whatsoever with your children, and your right to keep and bear arms is GONE, baby!
    And that is only the BEGINNING.
    It will never matter whether you ever did anything wrong; for what you did wrong was to become a husband and a father.
    Mr. Bambenek, do you seriously consider Washington, Jefferson, John Hancock, the Adams Family, etc. as bunch of crybabies who did not get their way with the British authorities and threw a temper tantrum called the American Revolution? The same goes for Nat Turner and Sparticus? The Iraqis whose families were murdered when they taunted So Damned Insane as he stood on the gallows trapdoor?
    Being a smug college professor with tenure, I would not be surprized.
    You see, just about everyone involved in the American Revolution believed that death to the tyrants was a reasonable way to deal with them. The French went beyond that a few years later.
    Victims of tyranny are often not willing to be polite and speak in soft terms relying on sweet reason because it is our bitter experience that such does not work!
    The problem with tyrants is that they are UNREASONABLE.
    Nazis. Feminazis. The Child Support Crusade. Islamofascists. So Damned Insane. Slave owners. They are all the same in that they do not give a damn about your rights or whether what they demand of you is reasonable.
    And all such tyrants are aided and abetted by the clueless indifference of “Let ‘em eat cake” and “Thank you all for proving the central thesis of my piece. You react with criticism not with intelligent comments, but the temper tantrum of a child who just got his toy taken away.”

  • http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com Roger Knight

    John Bambenek, Will Malven, please give me a break!
    Here is what each of you do:
    Get married, have children. When the children are about two years old, have your wife change her mind, get a lawyer, and then pull the old protection order trick where you are found guilty of “committing domestic violence” for doing nothing more than raising your voice when the credit card bill comes in or leaving the toilet seat up. No opportunity for cross examination, not one shred of evidence to back up her LIES and PERJURY, and poof! You are out of your OWN house that was paid for out of YOUR PAYCHECKS, prohibited from any contact whatsoever with your children, and your right to keep and bear arms is GONE, baby!
    And that is only the BEGINNING.
    It will never matter whether you ever did anything wrong; for what you did wrong was to become a husband and a father.
    Mr. Bambenek, do you seriously consider Washington, Jefferson, John Hancock, the Adams Family, etc. as bunch of crybabies who did not get their way with the British authorities and threw a temper tantrum called the American Revolution? The same goes for Nat Turner and Sparticus? The Iraqis whose families were murdered when they taunted So Damned Insane as he stood on the gallows trapdoor?
    Being a smug college professor with tenure, I would not be surprized.
    You see, just about everyone involved in the American Revolution believed that death to the tyrants was a reasonable way to deal with them. The French went beyond that a few years later.
    Victims of tyranny are often not willing to be polite and speak in soft terms relying on sweet reason because it is our bitter experience that such does not work!
    The problem with tyrants is that they are UNREASONABLE.
    Nazis. Feminazis. The Child Support Crusade. Islamofascists. So Damned Insane. Slave owners. They are all the same in that they do not give a damn about your rights or whether what they demand of you is reasonable.
    And all such tyrants are aided and abetted by the clueless indifference of “Let ‘em eat cake” and “Thank you all for proving the central thesis of my piece. You react with criticism not with intelligent comments, but the temper tantrum of a child who just got his toy taken away.”

  • Denis

    actually I thought “most” the posts were quite articulate. Maybe a couple were not worthy but most were good. I’d agree that name-calling will only diminish the message of the messanger that hardly refers to “most” posts here-but I read passion into the more reasoned expressions here, not histrionics. To the extent that that is possible anyways. I heard cynicism, I heard some lamenting, some controlled anger, but not adolescent histrionics. The column was pathetic.

  • Denis

    actually I thought “most” the posts were quite articulate. Maybe a couple were not worthy but most were good. I’d agree that name-calling will only diminish the message of the messanger that hardly refers to “most” posts here-but I read passion into the more reasoned expressions here, not histrionics. To the extent that that is possible anyways. I heard cynicism, I heard some lamenting, some controlled anger, but not adolescent histrionics. The column was pathetic.

  • Denis

    actually I thought “most” the posts were quite articulate. Maybe a couple were not worthy but most were good. I’d agree that name-calling will only diminish the message of the messanger that hardly refers to “most” posts here-but I read passion into the more reasoned expressions here, not histrionics. To the extent that that is possible anyways. I heard cynicism, I heard some lamenting, some controlled anger, but not adolescent histrionics. The column was pathetic.







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