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	<title>Comments on: Oprah Winfrey Exploits Shawn Hornbeck</title>
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		<title>By: ericjohnson5555</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28468</link>
		<dc:creator>ericjohnson5555</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 07:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people sure do talk a lot. I think this issue is a dead horse, and that the media and yourselves will have forgotten this story a year from now. You will find other and newer (not to mention more irrelevant) things to argue about. Perhaps it will be issues other than homophobia, child porn, sexual abuse, and &quot;miracle&quot; missing children. What a large amount of flaming goings on here... (hyuck). The media by it&#039;s very nature looks for &quot;stories&quot; to &quot;expliot&quot;. But remember that they are called &quot;stories&quot;. Why is this story any different than a news report of a traffic accident, or Chinese nuclear testing? Whoopdee do, some kid comes home after 4.5 years. Is this &quot;amazing&quot;? Is this newsworthy? In the modern world, sadly, yes. The media can and will expliot anything that can improve station ratings or paper&#039;s readers, or websites hits for that matter. The question that no one (myself included) can really answer is, do you really care about Shawn Hornbeck? I think the best a large majority of people can think is, &quot;I&#039;m sure glad that didn&#039;t happen to my child&quot; or &quot;I&#039;m glad that didn&#039;t happen to me when I was a kid.&quot; Each of us (myself included) have taken this &quot;story&quot; as an oppurtunity to promote our own beliefs. Whether it be homosexuality, or homophobia, or pedophilia, or women&#039;s lib, no one has discussed much about Shawn Hornbeck. What do any one of us KNOW about him, or Michael Devlin for that matter? All we have is bullshit coming from all sides, media, police, us (as in us!) People react in their own way. Some point the accusing finger (at anybody it seems). Some hide under their beds and never come out again. Some are quick to point out uninteresting facts and analysis. In a hundred years, no one will care. We&#039;ll all be dead, and this webpage of comments will be long deleted and forgotten (this post included :D ). Maybe I have a point, maybe you&#039;ll point out that I don&#039;t. I&#039;m sure you will find a way to aruge further about something further regarding this string of posts.
P.S. Robert Paul Reyes, Dittohd, &amp; S Baker, I please try to respect and understand each other instead of flaming and &quot;correcting&quot; each other. It sound like each of you are trying to become the &quot;Alpha Male&quot; of postings. Each of you sound like you&#039;re trying to establish an air of superiority over the others in terms of views and beliefs. Who really is a bigot? I would risk to say that there is no such thing aws a &quot;bigot&quot;. All people have different views on things and whether or not they are &quot;politically correct&quot; or &quot;offensive&quot; is irrelevant in the long run. My theory is, in a hundred years, they will have forgotten Shawn Hornbeck, Michael Devlin, and all of you. For that matter, me as well. lol (yes I will stoop to write &quot;lol&quot;) i&#039;ve ranted enough. I&#039;m just a human being like the rest of you that has enough time to write a comment in some obscure webpage about yet another &quot;news-worthy&quot; event. Kudos to everyone for explioting everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people sure do talk a lot. I think this issue is a dead horse, and that the media and yourselves will have forgotten this story a year from now. You will find other and newer (not to mention more irrelevant) things to argue about. Perhaps it will be issues other than homophobia, child porn, sexual abuse, and &#8220;miracle&#8221; missing children. What a large amount of flaming goings on here&#8230; (hyuck). The media by it&#8217;s very nature looks for &#8220;stories&#8221; to &#8220;expliot&#8221;. But remember that they are called &#8220;stories&#8221;. Why is this story any different than a news report of a traffic accident, or Chinese nuclear testing? Whoopdee do, some kid comes home after 4.5 years. Is this &#8220;amazing&#8221;? Is this newsworthy? In the modern world, sadly, yes. The media can and will expliot anything that can improve station ratings or paper&#8217;s readers, or websites hits for that matter. The question that no one (myself included) can really answer is, do you really care about Shawn Hornbeck? I think the best a large majority of people can think is, &#8220;I&#8217;m sure glad that didn&#8217;t happen to my child&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m glad that didn&#8217;t happen to me when I was a kid.&#8221; Each of us (myself included) have taken this &#8220;story&#8221; as an oppurtunity to promote our own beliefs. Whether it be homosexuality, or homophobia, or pedophilia, or women&#8217;s lib, no one has discussed much about Shawn Hornbeck. What do any one of us KNOW about him, or Michael Devlin for that matter? All we have is bullshit coming from all sides, media, police, us (as in us!) People react in their own way. Some point the accusing finger (at anybody it seems). Some hide under their beds and never come out again. Some are quick to point out uninteresting facts and analysis. In a hundred years, no one will care. We&#8217;ll all be dead, and this webpage of comments will be long deleted and forgotten (this post included <img src='http://mensnewsdaily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  ). Maybe I have a point, maybe you&#8217;ll point out that I don&#8217;t. I&#8217;m sure you will find a way to aruge further about something further regarding this string of posts.<br />
P.S. Robert Paul Reyes, Dittohd, &amp; S Baker, I please try to respect and understand each other instead of flaming and &#8220;correcting&#8221; each other. It sound like each of you are trying to become the &#8220;Alpha Male&#8221; of postings. Each of you sound like you&#8217;re trying to establish an air of superiority over the others in terms of views and beliefs. Who really is a bigot? I would risk to say that there is no such thing aws a &#8220;bigot&#8221;. All people have different views on things and whether or not they are &#8220;politically correct&#8221; or &#8220;offensive&#8221; is irrelevant in the long run. My theory is, in a hundred years, they will have forgotten Shawn Hornbeck, Michael Devlin, and all of you. For that matter, me as well. lol (yes I will stoop to write &#8220;lol&#8221;) i&#8217;ve ranted enough. I&#8217;m just a human being like the rest of you that has enough time to write a comment in some obscure webpage about yet another &#8220;news-worthy&#8221; event. Kudos to everyone for explioting everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dittohd</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28169</link>
		<dc:creator>Dittohd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To everyone here who has been reading my posts concerning not trusting what we read or hear in the media, here&#039;s the latest in that saga:

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07011908.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone here who has been reading my posts concerning not trusting what we read or hear in the media, here&#8217;s the latest in that saga:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07011908.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jan/07011908.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28160</link>
		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose, in your view Robert, all the homosexuals get in a real frenzy when &quot;Queer Eye for the Straight Guy&#039; comes on. Television sets must be destroyed at an horrendously wasteful rate. The &quot;Queer Studies&#039; people at Universities all over the place must hardly get any study done, so incensed they must be at the use of the wicked word. I come over all queer when I hear such facile objections.

Black people call one another &#039;nigger&#039; all the time. Homosexuals call each other queer. How come no-one else can?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose, in your view Robert, all the homosexuals get in a real frenzy when &#8220;Queer Eye for the Straight Guy&#8217; comes on. Television sets must be destroyed at an horrendously wasteful rate. The &#8220;Queer Studies&#8217; people at Universities all over the place must hardly get any study done, so incensed they must be at the use of the wicked word. I come over all queer when I hear such facile objections.</p>
<p>Black people call one another &#8216;nigger&#8217; all the time. Homosexuals call each other queer. How come no-one else can?</p>
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		<title>By: Dittohd</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28155</link>
		<dc:creator>Dittohd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  This comment site needs an &quot;edit&quot; button.  The moderator has the ability to adjust our comments but we can&#039;t adjust our own?

Pretty discriminatory, I think.  Feels like that &quot;Big Brother&quot; syndrome.  Or is it &quot;domestic terrorism&quot;?  Commenter molestation?

Call the cops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  This comment site needs an &#8220;edit&#8221; button.  The moderator has the ability to adjust our comments but we can&#8217;t adjust our own?</p>
<p>Pretty discriminatory, I think.  Feels like that &#8220;Big Brother&#8221; syndrome.  Or is it &#8220;domestic terrorism&#8221;?  Commenter molestation?</p>
<p>Call the cops!</p>
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		<title>By: S Baker</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28154</link>
		<dc:creator>S Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homosexuality and Pedophilia
Media Monitor ^ &#124; 11/2/2006 &#124; Cliff Kincaid
In connection with media coverage of the Mark Foley sex scandal, the pro-homosexual media enforcers have been attempting to refute the idea that there is any connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. Yet Foley targeted young boys. This is something you are not supposed to write or talk about because it undermines the cause of homosexual rights. 


Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth says, &quot;isn&#039;t it telling most of the tiny number of homosexual male U.S. Congressmen have been caught in sex scandals-remember Barney Frank, who let his male lover, a hustler, run a prostitution ring out of his D.C. apartment? And Massachusetts Rep. Gerry Studds, who had sex with a 17-year-old boy and then turned his back on fellow House Members during the censure vote against him? And Bob Bauman, who in 1980 was charged with soliciting a 16-year-old boy for sex?&quot;


Adding it up, LaBarbera says, &quot;Let&#039;s see: three homosexual Congressmen involved in sexual seductions of minor boys-ages 16, 17, and 17 (Foley). And yet homosexual activists ridicule anyone who suggests there is a predatory or pedophilic component to male homosexuality&quot;

A Big Duh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homosexuality and Pedophilia<br />
Media Monitor ^ | 11/2/2006 | Cliff Kincaid<br />
In connection with media coverage of the Mark Foley sex scandal, the pro-homosexual media enforcers have been attempting to refute the idea that there is any connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. Yet Foley targeted young boys. This is something you are not supposed to write or talk about because it undermines the cause of homosexual rights. </p>
<p>Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth says, &#8220;isn&#8217;t it telling most of the tiny number of homosexual male U.S. Congressmen have been caught in sex scandals-remember Barney Frank, who let his male lover, a hustler, run a prostitution ring out of his D.C. apartment? And Massachusetts Rep. Gerry Studds, who had sex with a 17-year-old boy and then turned his back on fellow House Members during the censure vote against him? And Bob Bauman, who in 1980 was charged with soliciting a 16-year-old boy for sex?&#8221;</p>
<p>Adding it up, LaBarbera says, &#8220;Let&#8217;s see: three homosexual Congressmen involved in sexual seductions of minor boys-ages 16, 17, and 17 (Foley). And yet homosexual activists ridicule anyone who suggests there is a predatory or pedophilic component to male homosexuality&#8221;</p>
<p>A Big Duh</p>
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		<title>By: S Baker</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28153</link>
		<dc:creator>S Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, I don&#039;t believe any deviant behavior that taxpayers are forced to fund is acceptable including homophilia, homopedophilia, incest and bestiality. Now Robert can call me a homophobe, pedophobe, incestophobe and beastophobe -- there I said it for you. Some &quot;Mens&quot; news site you have here. Robert should try allowing a little diversity of opinion instead of regurgitating the hollywood portrayed lifestyle of homosexuality. It ain&#039;t the Will and Grace show -- its acts with rodents, rimming, felching and the like--the acts still hidden the closet that are verboten to discuss.

Robert deleted my reference to CDC&#039;s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly reference about the cost of homosexual behavior to healthcare -- billions and comparable in cost and average lifespan to IV drug users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, I don&#8217;t believe any deviant behavior that taxpayers are forced to fund is acceptable including homophilia, homopedophilia, incest and bestiality. Now Robert can call me a homophobe, pedophobe, incestophobe and beastophobe &#8212; there I said it for you. Some &#8220;Mens&#8221; news site you have here. Robert should try allowing a little diversity of opinion instead of regurgitating the hollywood portrayed lifestyle of homosexuality. It ain&#8217;t the Will and Grace show &#8212; its acts with rodents, rimming, felching and the like&#8211;the acts still hidden the closet that are verboten to discuss.</p>
<p>Robert deleted my reference to CDC&#8217;s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly reference about the cost of homosexual behavior to healthcare &#8212; billions and comparable in cost and average lifespan to IV drug users.</p>
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		<title>By: Dittohd</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28152</link>
		<dc:creator>Dittohd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Paul Reyes said: I will delete your entire comments if you post again using derogatory words for homosexuals. The word â€œqueerâ€ is just as unacceptable as â€œniggerâ€ or â€œchinkâ€

Your the boss of this comment page, so what&#039;s objectionable to you is out.  I don&#039;t want my comments deleted so instead of qu**r, I&#039;ll substitute the word &quot;T-Shirt&quot; from now on whenever I feel the need to use that word.

We are all different and that&#039;s why in my posts I support freedom rather than everyone becoming the same in what they like and don&#039;t like.

&quot;T-Shirt&quot; can&#039;t be all that bad, certainly not as bad a nigger or chink as you allege if a national TV program can use the word in its title and have three &quot;T-Shirts&quot; on the program, giving others advice.  But then, maybe if you offer &quot;T-Shirts&quot; enough money, anything objectionable can be changed to no longer be objectionable.  Right?  Or is this just a difference of opinion?

Should someone go to jail for being a molester?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Paul Reyes said: I will delete your entire comments if you post again using derogatory words for homosexuals. The word â€œqueerâ€ is just as unacceptable as â€œniggerâ€ or â€œchinkâ€</p>
<p>Your the boss of this comment page, so what&#8217;s objectionable to you is out.  I don&#8217;t want my comments deleted so instead of qu**r, I&#8217;ll substitute the word &#8220;T-Shirt&#8221; from now on whenever I feel the need to use that word.</p>
<p>We are all different and that&#8217;s why in my posts I support freedom rather than everyone becoming the same in what they like and don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>&#8220;T-Shirt&#8221; can&#8217;t be all that bad, certainly not as bad a nigger or chink as you allege if a national TV program can use the word in its title and have three &#8220;T-Shirts&#8221; on the program, giving others advice.  But then, maybe if you offer &#8220;T-Shirts&#8221; enough money, anything objectionable can be changed to no longer be objectionable.  Right?  Or is this just a difference of opinion?</p>
<p>Should someone go to jail for being a molester?</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28151</link>
		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my first line, second sentence, I missed a &#039;not&#039;. It was meant to have said &quot;and you have NOT reasoned your way throught it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my first line, second sentence, I missed a &#8216;not&#8217;. It was meant to have said &#8220;and you have NOT reasoned your way throught it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28150</link>
		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert I have to take issue with you. It is not reasonable, and you have reasoned your way throught it, that my statement even could mean that I &#039;give an impression&#039; that I &#039;coddle&#039; child molesters. I did not even address molestation, let alone coddle. I mearly asked what this child-porn was. I sought the evidence. 

Sure, an unreasonable person just might MAKE or TAKE an impression, but I certainly didn&#039;t give one. You infer what I did not imply. The inference is entirely of your own invention.

This mentation you exhibit is precisely what is wrong with the whole sexual &#039;crime&#039; business. The police and DAs hardly bother to seek evidence these days. Evidence is seldom called for in our Courts where a man is concerned. The simple accusation is enough. We are becoming slaves to that very &#039;Authority&#039; that was so vividly displayed in the famous psychological experiments of 40 years ago. Someone in a white coat - or a blue uniform - says this and we jump to obey. All the way to the electric chair in some cases.

Robert, I am too old and overburdened with the weight of dismay to jump. Why not dispense with a trial altogether and just hang the man. You do a good impression of a lynch-mob leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert I have to take issue with you. It is not reasonable, and you have reasoned your way throught it, that my statement even could mean that I &#8216;give an impression&#8217; that I &#8216;coddle&#8217; child molesters. I did not even address molestation, let alone coddle. I mearly asked what this child-porn was. I sought the evidence. </p>
<p>Sure, an unreasonable person just might MAKE or TAKE an impression, but I certainly didn&#8217;t give one. You infer what I did not imply. The inference is entirely of your own invention.</p>
<p>This mentation you exhibit is precisely what is wrong with the whole sexual &#8216;crime&#8217; business. The police and DAs hardly bother to seek evidence these days. Evidence is seldom called for in our Courts where a man is concerned. The simple accusation is enough. We are becoming slaves to that very &#8216;Authority&#8217; that was so vividly displayed in the famous psychological experiments of 40 years ago. Someone in a white coat &#8211; or a blue uniform &#8211; says this and we jump to obey. All the way to the electric chair in some cases.</p>
<p>Robert, I am too old and overburdened with the weight of dismay to jump. Why not dispense with a trial altogether and just hang the man. You do a good impression of a lynch-mob leader.</p>
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		<title>By: KVolz</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28148</link>
		<dc:creator>KVolz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S. Baker, Robert is not comparing blacks to homosexuals, he is saying that none of those slang terms are acceptable. Difference. Although you seem to have a prejudice against gays. I guess you just don&#039;t tolerate those who have different sexual preferences as you.

 The way some of these MND folks talk about women so hatefully, I am surprised they haven&#039;t &quot;come out of the closet&quot;. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S. Baker, Robert is not comparing blacks to homosexuals, he is saying that none of those slang terms are acceptable. Difference. Although you seem to have a prejudice against gays. I guess you just don&#8217;t tolerate those who have different sexual preferences as you.</p>
<p> The way some of these MND folks talk about women so hatefully, I am surprised they haven&#8217;t &#8220;come out of the closet&#8221;. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Dittohd</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-2/#comment-28147</link>
		<dc:creator>Dittohd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. P.S.  Oh, that&#039;s right!  We go to adults who are LOOKING at the pictures for the &quot;child molestor&quot; label.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. P.S.  Oh, that&#8217;s right!  We go to adults who are LOOKING at the pictures for the &#8220;child molestor&#8221; label.</p>
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		<title>By: Dittohd</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-1/#comment-28146</link>
		<dc:creator>Dittohd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  And what if the actors and producers of the kiddie or child porn are minors?  Then what!  Wow! What a conumdrum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  And what if the actors and producers of the kiddie or child porn are minors?  Then what!  Wow! What a conumdrum!</p>
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		<title>By: Dittohd</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/19/oprah-winfrey-exploits-shawn-hornbeck/comment-page-1/#comment-28145</link>
		<dc:creator>Dittohd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Paul Reyes said: Dittohead, your support of child porn is reprehensible and your reading comprehension is terrible.

I don&#039;t support child porn and never said I did.  Personally, I don&#039;t particularly like hardly any porn.  What a waste of good, hard-earned money!  Speaking of bad reading comprehension! What I do support is putting people in jail for what they DO, not for what they THINK!  Looking at a picture should not be against the law.  It only involves thinking and hurts no one. Abusing a child SHOULD be against the law and the creator of the real child porn, if a child was used in its creation (child porn creators, I&#039;ve heard, often use adults who look like teenagers), should be prosecuted.

By the way, if a teenager voluntarily participates in the creation of real child porn, should the teenager likewise be prosecuted?  No?  Are there any other crimes that you feel teenagers should be immune from prosecution?  Are minors only minors when sex crimes are involved?  If Shawn Hornbeck was the one who downloaded the kiddie porn that may have been found on Devlin&#039;s computer, should Shawn be prosecuted?  If not, doesn&#039;t that support child porn based on your logic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Paul Reyes said: Dittohead, your support of child porn is reprehensible and your reading comprehension is terrible.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t support child porn and never said I did.  Personally, I don&#8217;t particularly like hardly any porn.  What a waste of good, hard-earned money!  Speaking of bad reading comprehension! What I do support is putting people in jail for what they DO, not for what they THINK!  Looking at a picture should not be against the law.  It only involves thinking and hurts no one. Abusing a child SHOULD be against the law and the creator of the real child porn, if a child was used in its creation (child porn creators, I&#8217;ve heard, often use adults who look like teenagers), should be prosecuted.</p>
<p>By the way, if a teenager voluntarily participates in the creation of real child porn, should the teenager likewise be prosecuted?  No?  Are there any other crimes that you feel teenagers should be immune from prosecution?  Are minors only minors when sex crimes are involved?  If Shawn Hornbeck was the one who downloaded the kiddie porn that may have been found on Devlin&#8217;s computer, should Shawn be prosecuted?  If not, doesn&#8217;t that support child porn based on your logic?</p>
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		<title>By: Treye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Treye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dittohd said:
&quot;how do we know that the kiddie porn wasnâ€™t downloaded by the boy?&quot;

Excellent point that no one else seems to have thought of.  Authorities did not indicate the context in which the pictures present, merely leaked the existence of it.  Which of course leads those who are quick to judge to make all manner of suppositions that may or may not be true.

And I also do not trust authorities due to exploitative experiences close friends have undergone at the hands of DA offices and other politicians and their local police departments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dittohd said:<br />
&#8220;how do we know that the kiddie porn wasnâ€™t downloaded by the boy?&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent point that no one else seems to have thought of.  Authorities did not indicate the context in which the pictures present, merely leaked the existence of it.  Which of course leads those who are quick to judge to make all manner of suppositions that may or may not be true.</p>
<p>And I also do not trust authorities due to exploitative experiences close friends have undergone at the hands of DA offices and other politicians and their local police departments.</p>
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		<title>By: S Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why am I not surprised you would compare Black people to sexual deviants. I have yet to meet a single Black man that doesn&#039;t resent being compared to another male practicing homosexual behavior to some form of equivalent repression. That is a very disgusting attribution often used by &quot;gay&quot; people in an attempt to vilify those that find such behavior disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why am I not surprised you would compare Black people to sexual deviants. I have yet to meet a single Black man that doesn&#8217;t resent being compared to another male practicing homosexual behavior to some form of equivalent repression. That is a very disgusting attribution often used by &#8220;gay&#8221; people in an attempt to vilify those that find such behavior disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Paul Reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Paul Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To S Baker: I will delete your entire comments if you post again using derogatory words for homosexuals. The word &quot;queer&quot; is just as unacceptable as &quot;nigger&quot; or &quot;chink&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To S Baker: I will delete your entire comments if you post again using derogatory words for homosexuals. The word &#8220;queer&#8221; is just as unacceptable as &#8220;nigger&#8221; or &#8220;chink&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: S Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, robert, going to call me names since I don&#039;t agree with you. Nice comments and all because I don&#039;t subscribe to deviant sexual behavior nor do I think the male anus is a sex organ. You even use theÂ (homosexuall slur deleted)Â jargon of calling people that are disgusted with deviant behavior homophobic. Never have I met anyone afraid of (homsexual slur deleted). Are you pedophobic? Just curious where you stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, robert, going to call me names since I don&#8217;t agree with you. Nice comments and all because I don&#8217;t subscribe to deviant sexual behavior nor do I think the male anus is a sex organ. You even use theÂ (homosexuall slur deleted)Â jargon of calling people that are disgusted with deviant behavior homophobic. Never have I met anyone afraid of (homsexual slur deleted). Are you pedophobic? Just curious where you stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Paul Reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Paul Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dittohd said,

&quot;Robert Paul Reyes - Wow! Accuse someone who disagrees with you that if they continue their point, they are supporting kidnappers and child molesters and everyone shuts up! Wow! You must really be proud of yourself.&quot;

******************************

Dittohead, your support of child porn is reprehensible and your reading comprehension is terrible.

This is what I actually wrote:

&quot;Amfortas, if you want to make a case that â€œthe authoritiesâ€ misuse child pornography laws to prosecute individuals with innocent photographs of children, do so in a free-standing essay. Donâ€™t do it in the context of a discussion of a kidnapper and child molester. By making your case in this thread, you are giving the impression that you coddle child molesters.&quot;

By Amfortas making a case that the laws against chld porn are sometimes misued by authorites,in a forum discussing a child molester, he was GIVING THE IMPRESSION that he coddled child molesters. 

BIG DIFFERENCE

I strongly disagree with those who support child porn, if I really wanted to &quot;shut up&quot; the opposing view, I would simply delete all your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dittohd said,</p>
<p>&#8220;Robert Paul Reyes &#8211; Wow! Accuse someone who disagrees with you that if they continue their point, they are supporting kidnappers and child molesters and everyone shuts up! Wow! You must really be proud of yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>******************************</p>
<p>Dittohead, your support of child porn is reprehensible and your reading comprehension is terrible.</p>
<p>This is what I actually wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Amfortas, if you want to make a case that â€œthe authoritiesâ€ misuse child pornography laws to prosecute individuals with innocent photographs of children, do so in a free-standing essay. Donâ€™t do it in the context of a discussion of a kidnapper and child molester. By making your case in this thread, you are giving the impression that you coddle child molesters.&#8221;</p>
<p>By Amfortas making a case that the laws against chld porn are sometimes misued by authorites,in a forum discussing a child molester, he was GIVING THE IMPRESSION that he coddled child molesters. </p>
<p>BIG DIFFERENCE</p>
<p>I strongly disagree with those who support child porn, if I really wanted to &#8220;shut up&#8221; the opposing view, I would simply delete all your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Dittohd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dittohd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Paul Reyes - Wow!  Accuse someone who disagrees with you that if they continue their point, they are supporting kidnappers and child molesters and everyone shuts up!  Wow!  You must really be proud of yourself.

Just out of curiosity, when the cops and media gave you all the initial &quot;facts&quot; of the Duke lacross team rape allegations via the media, were you sure of the lacross team&#039;s guilt?  Did you advocate frying them?  Do you still believe that they are guilty?  If so, why?  Based on what evidence?  If not, why?  What changed your mind?  Was it the lack of DNA on the woman?  The DNA of several men in the woman that the prosecutor and DNA lab kept a secret for so long?  The 100% lacross team line-up? Was it their alibis?  Do you still believe they are guilty because women never lie about rape?  After all, why would they lie about something like that?  And we all know that no woman would ever support putting a man in jail and destroying his life over something he didn&#039;t do.

Nothing the cops say in the news media means squat.  Cops and DA&#039;s lie all the time to make their cases, influence public opinion and the potential jury pool and manipulate suspects into telling them what they want to hear.  Not all cops are always after the truth.  In fact, the courts have already ruled that it&#039;s OK for cops to lie to obtain confessions, including what they tell the suspect the results of confessing to a particular crime that the suspect supposedly did, will be.  And that&#039;s because nobody would ever, for any reason, confess to a crime that they didn&#039;t commit, right?  It also doesn&#039;t matter if the cop lies to the suspect about what will happen and won&#039;t happen to them if they do confess to the crime.

It is apparent to me that this guy who is accused of kidnapping this kid is already being &quot;nifonged&quot;.  It is customary for cops to keep details of a crime secret.  Why do you suppose they leaked the small detail that &quot;kiddie porn&quot; was found on this guy&#039;s computer?  Since there were two persons in the house and the boy probably spent more time in the house than this guy did since this guy was supposedly holding down two part-time jobs, and we know that the boy was using the computer to surreptitiously talk with his real father without the father knowing who he really was, changing his last name to that of the &quot;kidnapper&quot;, how do we know that the kiddie porn wasn&#039;t downloaded by the boy?  How do we know that the boy didn&#039;t go there of his own free will?  How do we know that he didn&#039;t enjoy his life better with this guy than with his parents and that&#039;s really what we have here.

By the way, what is &quot;kiddie porn&quot; anyway?  Is it porn for kiddies?  Is it cartoons of sex acts instead of real pictures?  Is kiddie porn different from child porn?  And if it is cartoons of sex acts, is it just as bad as real pictures since there are obviously no real children involved being abused?  Does it even matter when we are putting men in jail for what they are thinking rather than what they do?

Many years ago when the horror of rape and domestic violence wasn&#039;t so high in the consciousness of us all, we used to hear every so often about a large percentage of women having dreams about being raped.  I wonder what percentage of today&#039;s women still have these types of dreams?  Should we give all women mandatory lie-detector tests to find out which women are having this fantasy so we can put them in jail before they act out on their fantasy by putting themselves or someone else in harms way or asking their boyfriends or husbands to act out their fantasy for them?  Rape is against the law, after all.  And what we actually do doesn&#039;t matter anymore, right?  Is thinking about something really that much different from looking at a picture and thinking about it?  After all, if we think about something, how long is it before we start doing it?

You said in a previous post &quot;...everybody agrees that Devlin is a pedophile pervert who should burn in hell. I donâ€™t need to argue that point.&quot;

I don&#039;t agree.  Not because I know he isn&#039;t one but because I don&#039;t know the facts one way or the other.  And neither do you.

I don&#039;t trust the cops, DA&#039;s, or the media to tell me the truth about anything and anyone who does is either deluding themselves or is a brainwashed feminist kiss-up.

I know!  I know!  We have to protect &quot;the children&quot; so whatever we do or say towards that end is totally OK!  God help us all when we each turn 18!  Particularly us men!  And I can assure you that when you are falsely accused of a crime and nifonged up the a**, nobody is going to look back at your past opinions in support of &quot;the children&quot; and say &quot;This guy couldn&#039;t have done it.  Here, read what he previously said in support of &quot;the children&quot;.  What they&#039;ll say is, &quot;Look at this kiddie porn! This proves he&#039;s guilty!  This is what they say in public to hide their real selves!&quot;  And everyone will agree with the cops because we all know that cops and DA&#039;s and the media don&#039;t lie.  Whatever is on TV or in a newspaper or magazine has to be true otherwise the editors wouldn&#039;t allow it to be printed or broadcast.  Riiiiiight!

By the way, have you read that an Arizona legislator just proposed a bill that would make a large percentage of the minutemen who are helping to patrol our border with Mexico &quot;domestic terrorists&quot;?  Kiddie porn?  Terrorists?  Guilty?  Who cares?  The end justifies the means!  Let&#039;s just do away with the court system and throw all men in jail based on whatever the cops, DA&#039;s, legislators and the media decide is best for &quot;the children&quot;.  Look at all the money we&#039;ll save!  And all that extra money can go to &quot;the children&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Paul Reyes &#8211; Wow!  Accuse someone who disagrees with you that if they continue their point, they are supporting kidnappers and child molesters and everyone shuts up!  Wow!  You must really be proud of yourself.</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, when the cops and media gave you all the initial &#8220;facts&#8221; of the Duke lacross team rape allegations via the media, were you sure of the lacross team&#8217;s guilt?  Did you advocate frying them?  Do you still believe that they are guilty?  If so, why?  Based on what evidence?  If not, why?  What changed your mind?  Was it the lack of DNA on the woman?  The DNA of several men in the woman that the prosecutor and DNA lab kept a secret for so long?  The 100% lacross team line-up? Was it their alibis?  Do you still believe they are guilty because women never lie about rape?  After all, why would they lie about something like that?  And we all know that no woman would ever support putting a man in jail and destroying his life over something he didn&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>Nothing the cops say in the news media means squat.  Cops and DA&#8217;s lie all the time to make their cases, influence public opinion and the potential jury pool and manipulate suspects into telling them what they want to hear.  Not all cops are always after the truth.  In fact, the courts have already ruled that it&#8217;s OK for cops to lie to obtain confessions, including what they tell the suspect the results of confessing to a particular crime that the suspect supposedly did, will be.  And that&#8217;s because nobody would ever, for any reason, confess to a crime that they didn&#8217;t commit, right?  It also doesn&#8217;t matter if the cop lies to the suspect about what will happen and won&#8217;t happen to them if they do confess to the crime.</p>
<p>It is apparent to me that this guy who is accused of kidnapping this kid is already being &#8220;nifonged&#8221;.  It is customary for cops to keep details of a crime secret.  Why do you suppose they leaked the small detail that &#8220;kiddie porn&#8221; was found on this guy&#8217;s computer?  Since there were two persons in the house and the boy probably spent more time in the house than this guy did since this guy was supposedly holding down two part-time jobs, and we know that the boy was using the computer to surreptitiously talk with his real father without the father knowing who he really was, changing his last name to that of the &#8220;kidnapper&#8221;, how do we know that the kiddie porn wasn&#8217;t downloaded by the boy?  How do we know that the boy didn&#8217;t go there of his own free will?  How do we know that he didn&#8217;t enjoy his life better with this guy than with his parents and that&#8217;s really what we have here.</p>
<p>By the way, what is &#8220;kiddie porn&#8221; anyway?  Is it porn for kiddies?  Is it cartoons of sex acts instead of real pictures?  Is kiddie porn different from child porn?  And if it is cartoons of sex acts, is it just as bad as real pictures since there are obviously no real children involved being abused?  Does it even matter when we are putting men in jail for what they are thinking rather than what they do?</p>
<p>Many years ago when the horror of rape and domestic violence wasn&#8217;t so high in the consciousness of us all, we used to hear every so often about a large percentage of women having dreams about being raped.  I wonder what percentage of today&#8217;s women still have these types of dreams?  Should we give all women mandatory lie-detector tests to find out which women are having this fantasy so we can put them in jail before they act out on their fantasy by putting themselves or someone else in harms way or asking their boyfriends or husbands to act out their fantasy for them?  Rape is against the law, after all.  And what we actually do doesn&#8217;t matter anymore, right?  Is thinking about something really that much different from looking at a picture and thinking about it?  After all, if we think about something, how long is it before we start doing it?</p>
<p>You said in a previous post &#8220;&#8230;everybody agrees that Devlin is a pedophile pervert who should burn in hell. I donâ€™t need to argue that point.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree.  Not because I know he isn&#8217;t one but because I don&#8217;t know the facts one way or the other.  And neither do you.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust the cops, DA&#8217;s, or the media to tell me the truth about anything and anyone who does is either deluding themselves or is a brainwashed feminist kiss-up.</p>
<p>I know!  I know!  We have to protect &#8220;the children&#8221; so whatever we do or say towards that end is totally OK!  God help us all when we each turn 18!  Particularly us men!  And I can assure you that when you are falsely accused of a crime and nifonged up the a**, nobody is going to look back at your past opinions in support of &#8220;the children&#8221; and say &#8220;This guy couldn&#8217;t have done it.  Here, read what he previously said in support of &#8220;the children&#8221;.  What they&#8217;ll say is, &#8220;Look at this kiddie porn! This proves he&#8217;s guilty!  This is what they say in public to hide their real selves!&#8221;  And everyone will agree with the cops because we all know that cops and DA&#8217;s and the media don&#8217;t lie.  Whatever is on TV or in a newspaper or magazine has to be true otherwise the editors wouldn&#8217;t allow it to be printed or broadcast.  Riiiiiight!</p>
<p>By the way, have you read that an Arizona legislator just proposed a bill that would make a large percentage of the minutemen who are helping to patrol our border with Mexico &#8220;domestic terrorists&#8221;?  Kiddie porn?  Terrorists?  Guilty?  Who cares?  The end justifies the means!  Let&#8217;s just do away with the court system and throw all men in jail based on whatever the cops, DA&#8217;s, legislators and the media decide is best for &#8220;the children&#8221;.  Look at all the money we&#8217;ll save!  And all that extra money can go to &#8220;the children&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Paul Reyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Paul Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amfortas, if you want to make a case that &quot;the authorities&quot; misuse child pornography laws to prosecute individuals with innocent photographs of children, do so in a free-standing essay. Don&#039;t do it in the context of a discussion of a kidnapper and child molester. By making your case in this thread, you are giving the impression that you coddle child molesters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amfortas, if you want to make a case that &#8220;the authorities&#8221; misuse child pornography laws to prosecute individuals with innocent photographs of children, do so in a free-standing essay. Don&#8217;t do it in the context of a discussion of a kidnapper and child molester. By making your case in this thread, you are giving the impression that you coddle child molesters.</p>
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