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Golden State Lawmaker Seeks Ban On Spanking

2007-01-20
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From The ContraCostaTimes.Com:

“Assemblywoman Sally Lieber has …proposed a ban on spanking and sparked a real debate.

The issue is simple: Lieber wants to make spanking children age 3 and younger a misdemeanor. Offenders could face as much as a year in jail or as much as a $1,000 fine, though first-time violators would probably only have to attend parenting classes.”

Lieber has yet to introduce a bill, and let’s hope she never does. There are already laws on the books in California, as well as in every other state, that protect children from physical abuse

Lieber’s controversial idea is giving a new meaning to the phrase ”nanny state.”

Violators would have to attend parenting classes (re: indoctrination classes). “Uncle Sam says No to spanking. If your toddler is sticking his finger in the outlet, don’t spank him. And don’t invade his personal space by picking him up and taking him to a safe place. Gently explain that he might not grow up to be a useful bureaucrat if he doesn’t remove his finger from the outlet.”

Rugrats don’t understand or respond to arguments or entreaties when they do wrong, but they instinctively understand that a pat on the behind means “Stop!”

A laissez-faire approach to parenting results in “brats gone wild” at the grocery store, restaurant and movie theatre. It makes my blood boil when a little brat is acting up in a public place and the Mom gently pleads, “Oh Timmy, please stop. Oh, Timmy don’t be like that.” When what Timmy needs is a good swat on his rear end.

What Lieber needs is a good swat on the behind and for the good of the community, I volunteer to perform this thankless duty.

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  • sonjavon

    I’ll hold her down while you spank her. Why don’t people understand that we are not helping children by not spanking them – we are hurting them. I have been that parent in the grocery store BEGGING my son to behave – Why? Out of fear… if I spank him will someone yell at me? Call the cops? Think I’m a bad parent? I have also laid down on the floor and thrown a tantrum with my son… embarassed the living crap out of him and taught him that ya don’t wanna mess with mom…
    I love my son more any anything in this world, and I HATE having to spank him. I HATE having to punish him… but I do it for his own good. I’ll even go so far as to say – the reason for much of the child abuse in the world comes about because parents try time outs, reasoning, talking, redirecting and everything else they can think of – and when it doesn’t work – they’re 10X madder than they were before and they give in and completely lose their temper while spanking.

    Instead of banning spanking… let’s educate parents on effective spanking. COUNT… if you have to spank your child… tell them, “you’re going to get 3 licks.” Then count. Then hug your child… Spankings are done with love… not with hatred. No spanking ever takes place without a conversation in our house.

  • sonjavon

    I’ll hold her down while you spank her. Why don’t people understand that we are not helping children by not spanking them – we are hurting them. I have been that parent in the grocery store BEGGING my son to behave – Why? Out of fear… if I spank him will someone yell at me? Call the cops? Think I’m a bad parent? I have also laid down on the floor and thrown a tantrum with my son… embarassed the living crap out of him and taught him that ya don’t wanna mess with mom…
    I love my son more any anything in this world, and I HATE having to spank him. I HATE having to punish him… but I do it for his own good. I’ll even go so far as to say – the reason for much of the child abuse in the world comes about because parents try time outs, reasoning, talking, redirecting and everything else they can think of – and when it doesn’t work – they’re 10X madder than they were before and they give in and completely lose their temper while spanking.

    Instead of banning spanking… let’s educate parents on effective spanking. COUNT… if you have to spank your child… tell them, “you’re going to get 3 licks.” Then count. Then hug your child… Spankings are done with love… not with hatred. No spanking ever takes place without a conversation in our house.

  • sonjavon

    I’ll hold her down while you spank her. Why don’t people understand that we are not helping children by not spanking them – we are hurting them. I have been that parent in the grocery store BEGGING my son to behave – Why? Out of fear… if I spank him will someone yell at me? Call the cops? Think I’m a bad parent? I have also laid down on the floor and thrown a tantrum with my son… embarassed the living crap out of him and taught him that ya don’t wanna mess with mom…
    I love my son more any anything in this world, and I HATE having to spank him. I HATE having to punish him… but I do it for his own good. I’ll even go so far as to say – the reason for much of the child abuse in the world comes about because parents try time outs, reasoning, talking, redirecting and everything else they can think of – and when it doesn’t work – they’re 10X madder than they were before and they give in and completely lose their temper while spanking.

    Instead of banning spanking… let’s educate parents on effective spanking. COUNT… if you have to spank your child… tell them, “you’re going to get 3 licks.” Then count. Then hug your child… Spankings are done with love… not with hatred. No spanking ever takes place without a conversation in our house.

  • Robert Paul Reyes

    Sqiggy wrote: “P.S. Why would an atheist keep quoting Bible verses?”

    I’m not an atheist, and the Bible (KJV) is the greatest work of literature in the English language. I quote the Bible, just like I quote Shakespeare.

  • Robert Paul Reyes

    Sqiggy wrote: “P.S. Why would an atheist keep quoting Bible verses?”

    I’m not an atheist, and the Bible (KJV) is the greatest work of literature in the English language. I quote the Bible, just like I quote Shakespeare.

  • Robert Paul Reyes

    Sqiggy wrote: “P.S. Why would an atheist keep quoting Bible verses?”

    I’m not an atheist, and the Bible (KJV) is the greatest work of literature in the English language. I quote the Bible, just like I quote Shakespeare.

  • Squiggy

    Okay, this is weird. Twice now I agree with you. I’m wondering if someone else is posting under your name.

    I absolutely HATE spanking my daughter, but I’ve had to three times. All of them before she was five years old. She’s almost nine now, and she’s an absolutely wonderful child. Since two of her spankings were when she was three, I would be arrested in California. Never mind that because she got the whippings then, she never needs them now. It’s part of the reason she’s a great kid now (I’m convincing myself the other part is genes).

    P.S. Why would an atheist keep quoting Bible verses?

  • Squiggy

    Okay, this is weird. Twice now I agree with you. I’m wondering if someone else is posting under your name.

    I absolutely HATE spanking my daughter, but I’ve had to three times. All of them before she was five years old. She’s almost nine now, and she’s an absolutely wonderful child. Since two of her spankings were when she was three, I would be arrested in California. Never mind that because she got the whippings then, she never needs them now. It’s part of the reason she’s a great kid now (I’m convincing myself the other part is genes).

    P.S. Why would an atheist keep quoting Bible verses?

  • Robert Paul Reyes

    Prov:13:24: He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

  • Robert Paul Reyes

    Prov:13:24: He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

  • Robert Paul Reyes

    Kvolz said: “You can’t reason with a young child”

    Amen! That’s what it boils down to. A little whack on the behind won’t hurt them

  • Robert Paul Reyes

    Kvolz said: “You can’t reason with a young child”

    Amen! That’s what it boils down to. A little whack on the behind won’t hurt them

  • Robert Paul Reyes

    Kvolz said: “You can’t reason with a young child”

    Amen! That’s what it boils down to. A little whack on the behind won’t hurt them

  • KVolz

    I really thought that you would be against spanking, for some reason!

    I think that spanking is ok as long as it is just that, and not anything that would actually injure a child. I have thought in my head time and time again if there is an alternative to that, but you are right. You can’t reason with a young child.

    No matter what I do believe or don’t believe, I don’t think the government should get in the way of issues like that! I don’t think that they should be too involved in the family unit. Laws against physical abuse are fine, but this would be taking it a little too far.

  • KVolz

    I really thought that you would be against spanking, for some reason!

    I think that spanking is ok as long as it is just that, and not anything that would actually injure a child. I have thought in my head time and time again if there is an alternative to that, but you are right. You can’t reason with a young child.

    No matter what I do believe or don’t believe, I don’t think the government should get in the way of issues like that! I don’t think that they should be too involved in the family unit. Laws against physical abuse are fine, but this would be taking it a little too far.

  • KVolz

    I really thought that you would be against spanking, for some reason!

    I think that spanking is ok as long as it is just that, and not anything that would actually injure a child. I have thought in my head time and time again if there is an alternative to that, but you are right. You can’t reason with a young child.

    No matter what I do believe or don’t believe, I don’t think the government should get in the way of issues like that! I don’t think that they should be too involved in the family unit. Laws against physical abuse are fine, but this would be taking it a little too far.

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    “A spanking, a spanking!”

    “Yes and then after the spankings comes….Oral Sex.”

    Monty Python and the Holy Grail

  • http://houstonconservative.com Will Malven

    “A spanking, a spanking!”

    “Yes and then after the spankings comes….Oral Sex.”

    Monty Python and the Holy Grail







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