Comments on: National Coalition of Free Men, L.A. makes its presence know in CA’s Capitol – in Superior Court http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/ Men's Rights Activism, MRA Politics, Analysis, Commentary and Global News Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:52:03 -1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ray Blumhorst http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28739 Ray Blumhorst Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:32:29 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/#comment-28739 Do I detect notes of jealousy and cynicism in wls1’s inaccurate, counterproductive, and potentially divisive input? ...as if we MRA’s didn’t already have enough to deal with in everything that comes at us from the gender feminist agenda. I suggest wls1 please read more thoroughly the info available at NCFM’s web site. http://www.ncfmla.org/ Lobbying is not something NCFMLA is allowed to do as it is a 501.c3 Within the framework of what it is allowed by law to do, NCFMLA makes stellar efforts. I suggest wls1 read further to assuage his misperceptions about what Men’s Rights Activists in California are doing. http://www.cafcusa.org/aboutus.asp Note: Mr. Angelucci, President of NCFMLA, and the council for the plaintiffs in the article above, is privately on the Advisory Committee of CAFC. Please read his bio. NCFMLA certainly sees the value of lobbyists in Sacramento and I privately, heartily encourage wls1 (and others) to support those working for change, both in CAFC, and NCFM. Lastly, I would like to challenge all, but especially wls1, to find how they can best into the present organizations promoting men’s issues. Get on board, or get out of the way. Do nothing, “wanna be,” critics (as the case may or may not be), who are only capable of Monday morning quarterbacking are worse than worthless. They’re worse than worthless, because some may be lead to think they can be counted on to provide assistance, but in reality they are not team players at any level. Do I detect notes of jealousy and cynicism in wls1’s inaccurate, counterproductive, and potentially divisive input? …as if we MRA’s didn’t already have enough to deal with in everything that comes at us from the gender feminist agenda.

I suggest wls1 please read more thoroughly the info available at NCFM’s web site. http://www.ncfmla.org/ Lobbying is not something NCFMLA is allowed to do as it is a 501.c3 Within the framework of what it is allowed by law to do, NCFMLA makes stellar efforts.

I suggest wls1 read further to assuage his misperceptions about what Men’s Rights Activists in California are doing. http://www.cafcusa.org/aboutus.asp

Note: Mr. Angelucci, President of NCFMLA, and the council for the plaintiffs in the article above, is privately on the Advisory Committee of CAFC. Please read his bio.

NCFMLA certainly sees the value of lobbyists in Sacramento and I privately, heartily encourage wls1 (and others) to support those working for change, both in CAFC, and NCFM.

Lastly, I would like to challenge all, but especially wls1, to find how they can best into the present organizations promoting men’s issues. Get on board, or get out of the way. Do nothing, “wanna be,” critics (as the case may or may not be), who are only capable of Monday morning quarterbacking are worse than worthless. They’re worse than worthless, because some may be lead to think they can be counted on to provide assistance, but in reality they are not team players at any level.

]]> By: conservativation http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28723 conservativation Sun, 28 Jan 2007 15:05:25 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/#comment-28723 Somewhere here the other day a post made the point that the form or style of the debate should adopt the other sides methodology, get some catchy slogans, even sophmoric ones, stick to them, NEVER go off meggae, and stubbornly refuse to go deeper in a conversation of disagreement. I saw merit in that notion, though I'd hate to see us do that exclusively. Thanks be to these guys who are doing that work. Somewhere here the other day a post made the point that the form or style of the debate should adopt the other sides methodology, get some catchy slogans, even sophmoric ones, stick to them, NEVER go off meggae, and stubbornly refuse to go deeper in a conversation of disagreement. I saw merit in that notion, though I’d hate to see us do that exclusively.

Thanks be to these guys who are doing that work.

]]> By: wls1 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28714 wls1 Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:48:54 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/#comment-28714 Unfortunately these guys aren't very smart. Perhaps public consciousness will be raised some by some of the publicity they may garner, but they aren't really attacking anything that could make a difference on a substantive level. Emphasizing sensationalism, ham-handedness, and a sophomoric approach to law revision and litigation, they seem to be copying the methodology of the feminists. They evidently didn't even bother to go into the Capitol and lobby. We should put up better. Unfortunately these guys aren’t very smart.

Perhaps public consciousness will be raised some by some of the publicity they may garner, but they aren’t really attacking anything that could make a difference on a substantive level. Emphasizing sensationalism, ham-handedness, and a sophomoric approach to law revision and litigation, they seem to be copying the methodology of the feminists.

They evidently didn’t even bother to go into the Capitol and lobby. We should put up better.

]]> By: amfortas http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28697 amfortas Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:35:11 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/#comment-28697 You guys rock. I am very happy you are working in my world. You guys rock. I am very happy you are working in my world.

]]> By: Teri Stoddard http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28687 Teri Stoddard Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:52:51 +0000 http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/national-coalition-of-free-men-makes-its-presence-know-in-cas-capitol-in-superior-court-2/#comment-28687 You guys rock. I'm very happy you're working in my state. You guys rock. I’m very happy you’re working in my state.

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