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	<title>Comments on: Sperm donor agrees to pay child support for twins</title>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the best way to tell the bastards to get (self-censored) is to plead the Antipeonage Act.
They hate that.  They REALLY hate that.
Because in doing that, we are calling them criminals, 18 U.S.C. Â§1581 and they don&#039;t DARE sue us for slander, defamation, or libel.
Because FACT of libel is a JURY question.  The jury instruction in libel or defamation is that the truth or good faith belief in the truth of the statement is a perfect defense.
At least in the United States it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the best way to tell the bastards to get (self-censored) is to plead the Antipeonage Act.<br />
They hate that.  They REALLY hate that.<br />
Because in doing that, we are calling them criminals, 18 U.S.C. Â§1581 and they don&#8217;t DARE sue us for slander, defamation, or libel.<br />
Because FACT of libel is a JURY question.  The jury instruction in libel or defamation is that the truth or good faith belief in the truth of the statement is a perfect defense.<br />
At least in the United States it is.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. Just going back to that young lad who was threatened with jail for supposedly fathering a child at age three. 

He was portrayed as being distraught. I bet he was, he was clearly a victim but he was advised to whine, &#039;it&#039;s not fair&#039;. 

What he COULD have done was tell the C$A to &#039;get f*cked&#039;. &#039;Shove it up your arse you stupid, lying, thick buggers&#039; is what he could have said.

He COULD have got angry. He could have engineered his being taken to court where he could have told the Police and the Judge to get f*cked and shove their truncheons and gavels up their arses too. He may even have risked being jailed. Think what a stir that would have made in the public&#039;s consciousness. There would have been outrage at him being taken to court by mendacious incompetents.

The four other men of the same name who also recieved threats from the C$A, over the same child supposedly fathered by five men, could also have got angry. But they too treated it with a whine. Each and every one of them COULD have shouted &#039;Get F*cked, you f*cking morons&#039;, in unison.

The publicity would have been MUCH greater. The public support would have been much greater. As it was, it was barely noticable. An opportunity missed.

Had they each used their righteous anger, the lying bitch who fingered the five would have been seen as the scum that she is. Demand for her prosecution may have eventuated. The C$A lawyer who sent the message may have been sacked instead of &#039;counselled&#039;. 

An opportunity for a five-man demolition team to blow a hole in the tracks was missed and the trains still run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. Just going back to that young lad who was threatened with jail for supposedly fathering a child at age three. </p>
<p>He was portrayed as being distraught. I bet he was, he was clearly a victim but he was advised to whine, &#8216;it&#8217;s not fair&#8217;. </p>
<p>What he COULD have done was tell the C$A to &#8216;get f*cked&#8217;. &#8216;Shove it up your arse you stupid, lying, thick buggers&#8217; is what he could have said.</p>
<p>He COULD have got angry. He could have engineered his being taken to court where he could have told the Police and the Judge to get f*cked and shove their truncheons and gavels up their arses too. He may even have risked being jailed. Think what a stir that would have made in the public&#8217;s consciousness. There would have been outrage at him being taken to court by mendacious incompetents.</p>
<p>The four other men of the same name who also recieved threats from the C$A, over the same child supposedly fathered by five men, could also have got angry. But they too treated it with a whine. Each and every one of them COULD have shouted &#8216;Get F*cked, you f*cking morons&#8217;, in unison.</p>
<p>The publicity would have been MUCH greater. The public support would have been much greater. As it was, it was barely noticable. An opportunity missed.</p>
<p>Had they each used their righteous anger, the lying bitch who fingered the five would have been seen as the scum that she is. Demand for her prosecution may have eventuated. The C$A lawyer who sent the message may have been sacked instead of &#8216;counselled&#8217;. </p>
<p>An opportunity for a five-man demolition team to blow a hole in the tracks was missed and the trains still run.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear your frustration Eric. Men will need to do more than simply cry into the wind, the wilderness, the roar of femonazi Judges. But each does what they think they are capable of. Most are confined by their own expectation of themselves.

The girls who rode bicycles delivering messages between resistance groups in France during WW2 were small but VITAL footsoldiers. Don&#039;t cast their actions aside. But at least someone was chucking grenades and blowing up train tracks and shooting up convoys. Risking their lives in a different way from the cyclists. They risked their lives too.

We have people who protest, cry &#039;it&#039;s not fair&#039;. These are the bicycle girls. We have enough bicycles. We need the fighters willing to kick arse and even risk death. 

John Murtari is a HERO. A LEADER. A little, ordinary man who didn&#039;t take the shit from the Judge. He CHOSE his shit, his way. He put his life on the line. 

The ordinary man who is caught in some femonazi trap CAN take a stand. He can do a lot more than he thinks he is capable of. He can REFUSE to take Judge shit. He can tell the judge to get f*cked. He can go to jail for his beliefs, for his honour, for his freedom. He can take action against the liars. He can gather a legion of bicycles to his support.

Men need to fill the jails. In jail they can be educators. An army of men are already in jail who could wreak havoc with the system. The men in jail need leadership. 

I have been in the position of paying through the nose to support loved children that I was unable to see, talk to, love. It was HELL and the scars still show. NEVER AGAIN. I would go to jail were it ever to happen again. I would relish the chance to tell the Judge to go f*ck himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear your frustration Eric. Men will need to do more than simply cry into the wind, the wilderness, the roar of femonazi Judges. But each does what they think they are capable of. Most are confined by their own expectation of themselves.</p>
<p>The girls who rode bicycles delivering messages between resistance groups in France during WW2 were small but VITAL footsoldiers. Don&#8217;t cast their actions aside. But at least someone was chucking grenades and blowing up train tracks and shooting up convoys. Risking their lives in a different way from the cyclists. They risked their lives too.</p>
<p>We have people who protest, cry &#8216;it&#8217;s not fair&#8217;. These are the bicycle girls. We have enough bicycles. We need the fighters willing to kick arse and even risk death. </p>
<p>John Murtari is a HERO. A LEADER. A little, ordinary man who didn&#8217;t take the shit from the Judge. He CHOSE his shit, his way. He put his life on the line. </p>
<p>The ordinary man who is caught in some femonazi trap CAN take a stand. He can do a lot more than he thinks he is capable of. He can REFUSE to take Judge shit. He can tell the judge to get f*cked. He can go to jail for his beliefs, for his honour, for his freedom. He can take action against the liars. He can gather a legion of bicycles to his support.</p>
<p>Men need to fill the jails. In jail they can be educators. An army of men are already in jail who could wreak havoc with the system. The men in jail need leadership. </p>
<p>I have been in the position of paying through the nose to support loved children that I was unable to see, talk to, love. It was HELL and the scars still show. NEVER AGAIN. I would go to jail were it ever to happen again. I would relish the chance to tell the Judge to go f*ck himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the real men?

Complaining, saying â€œnot fairâ€ does absolutely nothing.

Get back to me when you, you, and you, are willing to protestâ€¦

Get back to me when you are actually willing to go to jail for your beliefsâ€¦

Eric Ericson
Eric87443@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the real men?</p>
<p>Complaining, saying â€œnot fairâ€ does absolutely nothing.</p>
<p>Get back to me when you, you, and you, are willing to protestâ€¦</p>
<p>Get back to me when you are actually willing to go to jail for your beliefsâ€¦</p>
<p>Eric Ericson<br />
<a href="mailto:Eric87443@hotmail.com">Eric87443@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles Fockaert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Fockaert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No good deed goes unpunished.</description>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guarantee the undisclosed &quot;settlement&quot; is exactly what the state calls for in child support based upon the man&#039;s salary.

And by the way, it isn&#039;t for 18 yrs, its until they finish college ....so, 21 yrs at least.

I feel sorry for the guy.

This is exactly who women are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guarantee the undisclosed &#8220;settlement&#8221; is exactly what the state calls for in child support based upon the man&#8217;s salary.</p>
<p>And by the way, it isn&#8217;t for 18 yrs, its until they finish college &#8230;.so, 21 yrs at least.</p>
<p>I feel sorry for the guy.</p>
<p>This is exactly who women are.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We really need a â€œMan-Pillâ€ or a vasectomy that worksâ€¦ &quot;

With respect. I can just see a man in Court saying to the Judge &quot;It couldn&#039;t have been mine, yer &#039;onour, I was taking the pill&quot;. Oh yes, the Judge would just fall over himself taking his side. Not. 

&quot;I had a vasectomy, yer worship&quot;. 

&quot;Oh yes, worm, didn&#039;t work did it, you Deadbeat&quot;. 

&quot;Tell ya what yer Bigf*ckinknobness, hows about I f*ck you and see if you &#039;ave a kid then&quot;.

Men already have fatherhood forced upon them without ever having set eyes on a woman. Sometimes it is farcical. Example: The lad in Oz who had a threatening letter from the C$A to pay up for a child he was supposed to have fathered when he was three. Three ! Hello?? We all know a thousand more. Others &#039;father&#039; enough by dint of just being married to the mother. Breathing is pretty well all that is needed for a Judge to reach a FemoJustice decision.

Men must stand up and tell these Judges to get f*cked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We really need a â€œMan-Pillâ€ or a vasectomy that worksâ€¦ &#8221;</p>
<p>With respect. I can just see a man in Court saying to the Judge &#8220;It couldn&#8217;t have been mine, yer &#8216;onour, I was taking the pill&#8221;. Oh yes, the Judge would just fall over himself taking his side. Not. </p>
<p>&#8220;I had a vasectomy, yer worship&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;Oh yes, worm, didn&#8217;t work did it, you Deadbeat&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;Tell ya what yer Bigf*ckinknobness, hows about I f*ck you and see if you &#8216;ave a kid then&#8221;.</p>
<p>Men already have fatherhood forced upon them without ever having set eyes on a woman. Sometimes it is farcical. Example: The lad in Oz who had a threatening letter from the C$A to pay up for a child he was supposed to have fathered when he was three. Three ! Hello?? We all know a thousand more. Others &#8216;father&#8217; enough by dint of just being married to the mother. Breathing is pretty well all that is needed for a Judge to reach a FemoJustice decision.</p>
<p>Men must stand up and tell these Judges to get f*cked.</p>
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		<title>By: KVolz</title>
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		<dc:creator>KVolz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is so sleezy of her! Poor guy, was trying to help a woman whose biological clock was ticking, and she took him for much more than that! He would have been better off to donate sperm anonymously to someone he wasn&#039;t dating. He didn&#039;t even get the satisfaction of doing it the old-fashioned way (which, I take it, wouldn&#039;t have worked), although even that wouldn&#039;t be worth paying for two kids for 18 years! I don&#039;t think any sex is worth that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so sleezy of her! Poor guy, was trying to help a woman whose biological clock was ticking, and she took him for much more than that! He would have been better off to donate sperm anonymously to someone he wasn&#8217;t dating. He didn&#8217;t even get the satisfaction of doing it the old-fashioned way (which, I take it, wouldn&#8217;t have worked), although even that wouldn&#8217;t be worth paying for two kids for 18 years! I don&#8217;t think any sex is worth that!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/01/27/sperm-donor-agrees-to-pay-child-support-for-twins/comment-page-1/#comment-28762</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did he plead the Antipeonage Act?
Probabvly did not get off the Estrogen Express either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he plead the Antipeonage Act?<br />
Probabvly did not get off the Estrogen Express either.</p>
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		<title>By: Toubrouk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toubrouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We really need a &quot;Man-Pill&quot; or a vasectomy that works...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We really need a &#8220;Man-Pill&#8221; or a vasectomy that works&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 05:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Everybody believes the terms of the settlement are in the best interest of the children,&quot; Mirabelli said. &quot;That&#039;s why we did it.&quot; 

Please demonstrate to me just how it is in the best interests of the children to have their unwilling father tricked into fathering them by an unscrupulous mother who has no honour and then forced against his will to support them. What a legacy these children will carry. And they are condemned to live with such a woman whose &#039;wants&#039; overide anyone elses rights and freedoms.

As Mirabelli says, there was no other reason for the forced support order. There is no indication in the report that the Judge thought the father was lying to evade responsibility. The father was clearly distraught that he should be blackmailed in such a dreadful manner and further distraught that the court failed in its duty to uphold justice.

We live our lives, too much in love with a freedom that is ephemeral. At some point more John Murtaris need to strp forward and point-blank refuse to be complicit in such stupid, unjust decisions by stupid Judges. They should refuse the order and take jail, get massive support from all over the world, show the Judge to be an unfeeling, unthinking and unjust fool, expose the mother for the liar and deceiver she is, and fight back. 

Too costly, you might say. And 18 years paying for two children isn&#039;t? It is more a question of which costs you are choosing to carry. Either way, the precious freedom has been stripped away by liars and legal conspirators. 

This man is &#039;free&#039; in a world that will screw him at any opportunity, at the whim of a deceiving woman and a complicit legal system.

We all pay the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everybody believes the terms of the settlement are in the best interest of the children,&#8221; Mirabelli said. &#8220;That&#8217;s why we did it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Please demonstrate to me just how it is in the best interests of the children to have their unwilling father tricked into fathering them by an unscrupulous mother who has no honour and then forced against his will to support them. What a legacy these children will carry. And they are condemned to live with such a woman whose &#8216;wants&#8217; overide anyone elses rights and freedoms.</p>
<p>As Mirabelli says, there was no other reason for the forced support order. There is no indication in the report that the Judge thought the father was lying to evade responsibility. The father was clearly distraught that he should be blackmailed in such a dreadful manner and further distraught that the court failed in its duty to uphold justice.</p>
<p>We live our lives, too much in love with a freedom that is ephemeral. At some point more John Murtaris need to strp forward and point-blank refuse to be complicit in such stupid, unjust decisions by stupid Judges. They should refuse the order and take jail, get massive support from all over the world, show the Judge to be an unfeeling, unthinking and unjust fool, expose the mother for the liar and deceiver she is, and fight back. </p>
<p>Too costly, you might say. And 18 years paying for two children isn&#8217;t? It is more a question of which costs you are choosing to carry. Either way, the precious freedom has been stripped away by liars and legal conspirators. </p>
<p>This man is &#8216;free&#8217; in a world that will screw him at any opportunity, at the whim of a deceiving woman and a complicit legal system.</p>
<p>We all pay the price.</p>
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		<title>By: christianj</title>
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		<dc:creator>christianj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or &quot;How to screw up your life cow-towing to the wishes of women&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or &#8220;How to screw up your life cow-towing to the wishes of women&#8221;.</p>
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