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		<title>By: BodeMillerJokes</title>
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		<dc:creator>BodeMillerJokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halo,

Unlike you, I am not ruled by fear and paranoia. Personally, I couldn&#039;t care less about terrorism.

That&#039;s my philosophy for victory over succumbing to terror. What&#039;s yours, besides whining about inconsequential conflicts 3,000 miles away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halo,</p>
<p>Unlike you, I am not ruled by fear and paranoia. Personally, I couldn&#8217;t care less about terrorism.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my philosophy for victory over succumbing to terror. What&#8217;s yours, besides whining about inconsequential conflicts 3,000 miles away?</p>
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		<title>By: Halo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMJ and Charles, you two are nuts.  I&#039;ve been in many Arab countries, and yes they bleed just fine.  I&#039;ve seen the aftermath of them cutting each others heads off and they bleed just like we do.  But unlike any other &quot;religion&quot;, theirs says convert or die.

The only positive aspect of Islam is they hate cowards.  You two (and your liberal, appeaser, cowardly BFbuddies) will be their first examples.  And it won&#039;t be a pair of panties on your head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMJ and Charles, you two are nuts.  I&#8217;ve been in many Arab countries, and yes they bleed just fine.  I&#8217;ve seen the aftermath of them cutting each others heads off and they bleed just like we do.  But unlike any other &#8220;religion&#8221;, theirs says convert or die.</p>
<p>The only positive aspect of Islam is they hate cowards.  You two (and your liberal, appeaser, cowardly BFbuddies) will be their first examples.  And it won&#8217;t be a pair of panties on your head.</p>
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		<title>By: jjtaup</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjtaup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about BMD:

Consider the UK and US as our population. Here are my estimates:

P[M] = 0.02  (2 % of the population is Muslim)
P[~M] is therefore 0.98
P[M&#124;T] = 0.80 (80% of terrorists are Muslim)
P[~M&#124;T] is therefore 0.20.
P[T] = 0.00001 (one hundreth of 1% of the population has either committed a 
                     terrorist act or is actively seeking to do so.)

Thus P[T&#124;M]  = (0.80)(0.00001)/(0.02) = 0.0004.
Also P[T&#124;~M] = (0.20)(0.00001)/(0.98) = 0.0000020

So, you see, the probabilty that you are a terrorist, given that you are a Muslim, is about 200 X higher than if you are not a Muslim. To me, that justifies discrimination in, for example, searching people boarding airplanes. The probability of said effectiveness could just as easily be determined. 

My estimates above about the Muslim population are guesses, and can easily be ascertained. Anywhere between 0.001 and 0.20 has gotta be bracketing it, and those extremes don&#039;t change the results. My P[M&#124;T] comes from noting that all 19 hijackers were Muslim, the first World Trade bombing was perpetrated by Muslims, the flight out of NY that blew up over the Atlantic had &quot;Allah Akbar&quot; in the black box, there have been two incidents within the last year where peds have been run over and the drivers have been Muslim (one even claimed he did it to punish the U.S.), and there was a shooting but a few months ago in some mall (not the one a few days ago in Utah) perped by a Muslim. There have been others, too. Ok, so there&#039;s also McVeigh, the Columbine shooting, other H.S. shootings, etc. I&#039;ll grant some leeway here, but not too much. Terrorism for our purposes refers to an act against a nation/culture/religion (and the West is rooted in Christianity and it certainly is its own culture). The Columbine boys were just White trash who I&#039;m sure someone realized needed to be squished like slugs in their adolsence. So I&#039;ll cut some slack on P[M&#124;T] and reduce it to 80%. 

In closing, first of all, the god that Muslims worship is just God, the same dude that Jews and Christians worship. There&#039;s only one. Second, I&#039;m not worried that Arabs (at least the ones that are Muslim) will kill for God. They ARE killing for God. At least they think so, but they&#039;re not. They&#039;re killing for satan because they don&#039;t really worship God (the ones that kill). But, yes, you have it right. I&#039;m justifiably worried that they will continue killing indiscriminantly for God. SOME of them. The ones I know are pretty nice people, and I like them quite a bit. As for me, I haven&#039;t killed that many people for God, and I gave it up as a New Year&#039;s resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about BMD:</p>
<p>Consider the UK and US as our population. Here are my estimates:</p>
<p>P[M] = 0.02  (2 % of the population is Muslim)<br />
P[~M] is therefore 0.98<br />
P[M|T] = 0.80 (80% of terrorists are Muslim)<br />
P[~M|T] is therefore 0.20.<br />
P[T] = 0.00001 (one hundreth of 1% of the population has either committed a<br />
                     terrorist act or is actively seeking to do so.)</p>
<p>Thus P[T|M]  = (0.80)(0.00001)/(0.02) = 0.0004.<br />
Also P[T|~M] = (0.20)(0.00001)/(0.98) = 0.0000020</p>
<p>So, you see, the probabilty that you are a terrorist, given that you are a Muslim, is about 200 X higher than if you are not a Muslim. To me, that justifies discrimination in, for example, searching people boarding airplanes. The probability of said effectiveness could just as easily be determined. </p>
<p>My estimates above about the Muslim population are guesses, and can easily be ascertained. Anywhere between 0.001 and 0.20 has gotta be bracketing it, and those extremes don&#8217;t change the results. My P[M|T] comes from noting that all 19 hijackers were Muslim, the first World Trade bombing was perpetrated by Muslims, the flight out of NY that blew up over the Atlantic had &#8220;Allah Akbar&#8221; in the black box, there have been two incidents within the last year where peds have been run over and the drivers have been Muslim (one even claimed he did it to punish the U.S.), and there was a shooting but a few months ago in some mall (not the one a few days ago in Utah) perped by a Muslim. There have been others, too. Ok, so there&#8217;s also McVeigh, the Columbine shooting, other H.S. shootings, etc. I&#8217;ll grant some leeway here, but not too much. Terrorism for our purposes refers to an act against a nation/culture/religion (and the West is rooted in Christianity and it certainly is its own culture). The Columbine boys were just White trash who I&#8217;m sure someone realized needed to be squished like slugs in their adolsence. So I&#8217;ll cut some slack on P[M|T] and reduce it to 80%. </p>
<p>In closing, first of all, the god that Muslims worship is just God, the same dude that Jews and Christians worship. There&#8217;s only one. Second, I&#8217;m not worried that Arabs (at least the ones that are Muslim) will kill for God. They ARE killing for God. At least they think so, but they&#8217;re not. They&#8217;re killing for satan because they don&#8217;t really worship God (the ones that kill). But, yes, you have it right. I&#8217;m justifiably worried that they will continue killing indiscriminantly for God. SOME of them. The ones I know are pretty nice people, and I like them quite a bit. As for me, I haven&#8217;t killed that many people for God, and I gave it up as a New Year&#8217;s resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Fockaert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Fockaert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Donâ€™t buy into the hype that terrorists are lurking behind every corner, behind every violent crime. Itâ€™s simply not true.&quot;

Amen. Most of these people who get ferocious every time they are thrown a piece of red meat should travel to s few Arab countries and actually meet Arab people. They are no different they us, they even have red blood and bleed when shot. 

Everyone now is a &#039;terrorist.&#039; Won&#039;t be much longer and anyone who doesn&#039;t  buy into all the propaganda will be labeled a &#039;terrorist.&#039; 

&quot;Charles Fockeart, You are sadly mistaken and dangerously mislead if you think that the Islamic Cultists are simply just enemies of the Jews and not yours as well. The extremists have made their plan clear. They want to dominate the world. Christians, Jews, and all other non believers will either convert to their cult or simply be executed.&quot;

And you&#039;re wrong Rogue Jew, it is the Zionist who have those plans you speak of. And please, spare us the anti-Semitic label for expressing my views. What&#039;s good for you is good for the rest of us. If we weren&#039;t blinding following the Zionists we wouldn&#039;t have the Arabs as enemies, now would we? 

Care to dicuss the 20-60 millions non-Jewish people the Jewish led Bolsoheviks executed during the Russian Revolution? And all the Christian church buildings they destroyed while leaving the synagogues standing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Donâ€™t buy into the hype that terrorists are lurking behind every corner, behind every violent crime. Itâ€™s simply not true.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen. Most of these people who get ferocious every time they are thrown a piece of red meat should travel to s few Arab countries and actually meet Arab people. They are no different they us, they even have red blood and bleed when shot. </p>
<p>Everyone now is a &#8216;terrorist.&#8217; Won&#8217;t be much longer and anyone who doesn&#8217;t  buy into all the propaganda will be labeled a &#8216;terrorist.&#8217; </p>
<p>&#8220;Charles Fockeart, You are sadly mistaken and dangerously mislead if you think that the Islamic Cultists are simply just enemies of the Jews and not yours as well. The extremists have made their plan clear. They want to dominate the world. Christians, Jews, and all other non believers will either convert to their cult or simply be executed.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re wrong Rogue Jew, it is the Zionist who have those plans you speak of. And please, spare us the anti-Semitic label for expressing my views. What&#8217;s good for you is good for the rest of us. If we weren&#8217;t blinding following the Zionists we wouldn&#8217;t have the Arabs as enemies, now would we? </p>
<p>Care to dicuss the 20-60 millions non-Jewish people the Jewish led Bolsoheviks executed during the Russian Revolution? And all the Christian church buildings they destroyed while leaving the synagogues standing?</p>
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		<title>By: BodeMillerJokes</title>
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		<dc:creator>BodeMillerJokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you on about? The shooting in Utah had nothing to do with terrorism. It was just a kid who snapped. Don&#039;t buy into the hype that terrorists are lurking behind every corner, behind every violent crime. It&#039;s simply not true. People kill for all kinds of reasons. And many times, people we call &quot;terrorists&quot; don&#039;t really believe in their minds that they are terrorists; many have their own reasons behind their actions.

So now you are scared the Arabs will kill for their god like you do for yours -- is that about right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you on about? The shooting in Utah had nothing to do with terrorism. It was just a kid who snapped. Don&#8217;t buy into the hype that terrorists are lurking behind every corner, behind every violent crime. It&#8217;s simply not true. People kill for all kinds of reasons. And many times, people we call &#8220;terrorists&#8221; don&#8217;t really believe in their minds that they are terrorists; many have their own reasons behind their actions.</p>
<p>So now you are scared the Arabs will kill for their god like you do for yours &#8212; is that about right?</p>
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		<title>By: jjtaup</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjtaup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 03:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMJ, yeah, your right. I&#039;ve been wrong all along noticing that the head choppers all have that deep rich tan with the holy towel on the noggin. Come to think of it, the rain has nothing to do with the weather. Let&#039;s all just dress for a bright, bright sunshiny day, everyday, regardless of the clouds. 

You know, it&#039;s been said that AIDS is not a homosexual disease. Well, simple statistics show that to be a bald-faced lie. The probability that you get AIDS given that you&#039;re homosexual is about 24X the probability that you get AIDS given you&#039;re not. Thus, by def., it&#039;s a homosexual disease. What&#039;s the connect? Easy enough to do the same thing with terrorism. Terrorism is a Muslim disease. That&#039;s NOT THE SAME as saying every Muslim is a terrorist, or even a very large proportion of Muslims are.  But it sure as hell is the same thing as saying to examine the crotches of every Arab male before they get on a plane and save the trouble on the rest of us. And I&#039;d say the same thing if Whites or Jews or Blacks or Chinese were the perps. It&#039;s SIMPLE MATH. So, yes, Charles, I&#039;m anti-Muslim to the extent that the stats support it, and I&#039;m anti-jewish to the extent the stats support it (which they don&#039;t), I&#039;m anti-everyone if they deserve it. Oh, yeah, I&#039;m anti-Mexican, I guess, cause every time I see one I know the odds are good that he/she is illegal/child of illegal. 

Let&#039;s cut to the chase with this assinine inability to distinguish our enemies for fear of being racist. If the numbers connect a shade this side of indigo with something that&#039;s wrong and/or illegal, then I&#039;m gonna use that shade as my first indication of culpability. Innocent until proven guilty only applies in a courtroom.

For the one-dimensional thinkers, here&#039;s the disclaimer which everyone else got: Holding a personal presumption of guilt against someone based upon experience linking one or more of their characteristics with some immoral/illegal act entitles me morally to not like--even hate that person. That&#039;s a solely mental act. However, I&#039;d be little more than a cockroach crumb if I didn&#039;t seek to go any deeper, though, and I do. I&#039;m actually a very nice, tolerant guy, and after the dude&#039;s had his exam and borded the plane, I&#039;ll swap stories of my favorite suras with him if he&#039;s likable enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMJ, yeah, your right. I&#8217;ve been wrong all along noticing that the head choppers all have that deep rich tan with the holy towel on the noggin. Come to think of it, the rain has nothing to do with the weather. Let&#8217;s all just dress for a bright, bright sunshiny day, everyday, regardless of the clouds. </p>
<p>You know, it&#8217;s been said that AIDS is not a homosexual disease. Well, simple statistics show that to be a bald-faced lie. The probability that you get AIDS given that you&#8217;re homosexual is about 24X the probability that you get AIDS given you&#8217;re not. Thus, by def., it&#8217;s a homosexual disease. What&#8217;s the connect? Easy enough to do the same thing with terrorism. Terrorism is a Muslim disease. That&#8217;s NOT THE SAME as saying every Muslim is a terrorist, or even a very large proportion of Muslims are.  But it sure as hell is the same thing as saying to examine the crotches of every Arab male before they get on a plane and save the trouble on the rest of us. And I&#8217;d say the same thing if Whites or Jews or Blacks or Chinese were the perps. It&#8217;s SIMPLE MATH. So, yes, Charles, I&#8217;m anti-Muslim to the extent that the stats support it, and I&#8217;m anti-jewish to the extent the stats support it (which they don&#8217;t), I&#8217;m anti-everyone if they deserve it. Oh, yeah, I&#8217;m anti-Mexican, I guess, cause every time I see one I know the odds are good that he/she is illegal/child of illegal. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s cut to the chase with this assinine inability to distinguish our enemies for fear of being racist. If the numbers connect a shade this side of indigo with something that&#8217;s wrong and/or illegal, then I&#8217;m gonna use that shade as my first indication of culpability. Innocent until proven guilty only applies in a courtroom.</p>
<p>For the one-dimensional thinkers, here&#8217;s the disclaimer which everyone else got: Holding a personal presumption of guilt against someone based upon experience linking one or more of their characteristics with some immoral/illegal act entitles me morally to not like&#8211;even hate that person. That&#8217;s a solely mental act. However, I&#8217;d be little more than a cockroach crumb if I didn&#8217;t seek to go any deeper, though, and I do. I&#8217;m actually a very nice, tolerant guy, and after the dude&#8217;s had his exam and borded the plane, I&#8217;ll swap stories of my favorite suras with him if he&#8217;s likable enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s time for the rest of us to get over our bewilderment at the way in which Islam has hypnotized the world into accepting defeat and enslavement, and adopt its methods.  We can see that the Western world is apathetic and weak, especially America.  History gives us many examples of societies being conquered after military defeats.  There are probably examples of countries surrendering without fighting because they had no resources to fight their adversaries.  But now the greatest military power in the history of mankind, after emerging from global wars and the cold war victorious, has decided to do something different.  It has decided to disregard its supremecy in the world and yield to a primitive adversary rather than risk hurt feelings.  Islam has shown us what can be accomplished with nothing but its will.  They have no air force, no satelites, no navy, they don&#039;t even have kevlar helmets.  They opposed us with sandals and scarves and they defeat us because we&#039;re afraid of offending them.

Now they&#039;re in our own backyard and killing our neighbors.  And our response?  We give them constitutional rights, we finance their defense teams, we elect them to our legislative bodies, and we make excuses for them and cover their identities and motives.

Maybe it&#039;s time for Christians and Jews to start cutting off heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time for the rest of us to get over our bewilderment at the way in which Islam has hypnotized the world into accepting defeat and enslavement, and adopt its methods.  We can see that the Western world is apathetic and weak, especially America.  History gives us many examples of societies being conquered after military defeats.  There are probably examples of countries surrendering without fighting because they had no resources to fight their adversaries.  But now the greatest military power in the history of mankind, after emerging from global wars and the cold war victorious, has decided to do something different.  It has decided to disregard its supremecy in the world and yield to a primitive adversary rather than risk hurt feelings.  Islam has shown us what can be accomplished with nothing but its will.  They have no air force, no satelites, no navy, they don&#8217;t even have kevlar helmets.  They opposed us with sandals and scarves and they defeat us because we&#8217;re afraid of offending them.</p>
<p>Now they&#8217;re in our own backyard and killing our neighbors.  And our response?  We give them constitutional rights, we finance their defense teams, we elect them to our legislative bodies, and we make excuses for them and cover their identities and motives.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time for Christians and Jews to start cutting off heads.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptDMO</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptDMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg said:
&quot;Utah is a concealed carry state. I think that concealed carry apps will be increasing here now. I know of one wife who is getting a .357 for Valentines day.&quot;

WOuld that be a MAY issue State, or a WILL issue State for CCL?
I certainly hope the apps go up in any case. Even in 
NH one has to give a reason for a CCL. I suggest &quot;Because Police cannot protect my life, nor do they have an obligation to.&quot; 

A certain Mr. Longnecker has a few things to reiterate on this matter. 

I might have a problem with the mention of a loopers&#039; religion in the news if it didn&#039;t happen to come with instructions that somehow justify killing ME at random. In My Humble Opinion, any other position is &lt;i&gt;asleep at the wheel&lt;/i&gt; at best and complicit at worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg said:<br />
&#8220;Utah is a concealed carry state. I think that concealed carry apps will be increasing here now. I know of one wife who is getting a .357 for Valentines day.&#8221;</p>
<p>WOuld that be a MAY issue State, or a WILL issue State for CCL?<br />
I certainly hope the apps go up in any case. Even in<br />
NH one has to give a reason for a CCL. I suggest &#8220;Because Police cannot protect my life, nor do they have an obligation to.&#8221; </p>
<p>A certain Mr. Longnecker has a few things to reiterate on this matter. </p>
<p>I might have a problem with the mention of a loopers&#8217; religion in the news if it didn&#8217;t happen to come with instructions that somehow justify killing ME at random. In My Humble Opinion, any other position is <i>asleep at the wheel</i> at best and complicit at worst.</p>
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		<title>By: melissaTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>melissaTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this whole thing going to be Clintonized showing no OBVIOUS connection to terrorism?

The media doesn&#039;t want anyone to see red flags so they leave out key components or play them down.  

Why the lead story in all papers is not about this instead of the paternity of some white trash slut&#039;s baby is proof positive the main stream media is on the terrorists side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this whole thing going to be Clintonized showing no OBVIOUS connection to terrorism?</p>
<p>The media doesn&#8217;t want anyone to see red flags so they leave out key components or play them down.  </p>
<p>Why the lead story in all papers is not about this instead of the paternity of some white trash slut&#8217;s baby is proof positive the main stream media is on the terrorists side.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion is only relevant if your running for president (see JFK &amp; Mitt Romney).  If you shoot up a shopping mall it&#039;s not relevant, even if it&#039;s the motivating factor.
I was sort of disappointed that no one else in the mall was packing, Utah is a concealed carry state.  I think that concealed carry apps will be increasing here now.  I know of one wife who is getting a .357 for Valentines day.
Greg 
Roy UT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion is only relevant if your running for president (see JFK &amp; Mitt Romney).  If you shoot up a shopping mall it&#8217;s not relevant, even if it&#8217;s the motivating factor.<br />
I was sort of disappointed that no one else in the mall was packing, Utah is a concealed carry state.  I think that concealed carry apps will be increasing here now.  I know of one wife who is getting a .357 for Valentines day.<br />
Greg<br />
Roy UT</p>
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		<title>By: radio relay</title>
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		<dc:creator>radio relay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else do you expect from the propagandists who pose as journalists. That includes Fox News. They&#039;ve been hiding and whitewashing crimes committed by illegal aliens for years. Why not help out the jihadists, too. Joyanna, is right. They have been schooled well!

I read the quran, and discussed it with muslims of all backgrounds, when I lived in Saudi Arabia. One of the things that stood out was that Christians come in for the worst threats in the islamic, so called &quot;holy&quot; book. I guess mohamed was chased out of Mecca by pagans and Christians. So, he and the angel Gabriel (sic) saved special vitriol for them as they were scibbling out the book.

There is a great deal of hatred for the Valentine&#039;s Day holiday in the islamic world. They don&#039;t like it that muslim women think it&#039;s cool. They also don&#039;t like that it honors a Christian saint. Did you notice that the scum bag jihadist attacked a store featuring Valentine&#039;s Day gifts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else do you expect from the propagandists who pose as journalists. That includes Fox News. They&#8217;ve been hiding and whitewashing crimes committed by illegal aliens for years. Why not help out the jihadists, too. Joyanna, is right. They have been schooled well!</p>
<p>I read the quran, and discussed it with muslims of all backgrounds, when I lived in Saudi Arabia. One of the things that stood out was that Christians come in for the worst threats in the islamic, so called &#8220;holy&#8221; book. I guess mohamed was chased out of Mecca by pagans and Christians. So, he and the angel Gabriel (sic) saved special vitriol for them as they were scibbling out the book.</p>
<p>There is a great deal of hatred for the Valentine&#8217;s Day holiday in the islamic world. They don&#8217;t like it that muslim women think it&#8217;s cool. They also don&#8217;t like that it honors a Christian saint. Did you notice that the scum bag jihadist attacked a store featuring Valentine&#8217;s Day gifts?</p>
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		<title>By: The Gonzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gonzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Savage is a non-religious, non-observant person of Jewish descent.

How&#039;s that Racism, there, Herr Karl?  Taste good to you?

&lt;i&gt;Deutschland, Deutschland, uber alles....&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Savage is a non-religious, non-observant person of Jewish descent.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that Racism, there, Herr Karl?  Taste good to you?</p>
<p><i>Deutschland, Deutschland, uber alles&#8230;.</i></p>
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		<title>By: The Rogue Jew</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rogue Jew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Fockeart, You are sadly mistaken and dangerously mislead if you think that the Islamic Cultists are simply just enemies of the Jews and not yours as well.  The extremists have made their plan clear. They want to dominate the world. Christians, Jews, and all other non believers will either convert to their cult or simply be executed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Fockeart, You are sadly mistaken and dangerously mislead if you think that the Islamic Cultists are simply just enemies of the Jews and not yours as well.  The extremists have made their plan clear. They want to dominate the world. Christians, Jews, and all other non believers will either convert to their cult or simply be executed.</p>
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		<title>By: mdkn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdkn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No attacks on the U.S. since 9/11 ? I think not.
We must somehow put pressure on our leaders to stop the import of this human garbage and close our borders to illegals. Also it must be realized that Islam is a cult not a religion. The people that follow it&#039;s teachings are the weakest of mind and are willing to blindly follow the teachings of some insane Imam. This cult should be banned in all western counties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No attacks on the U.S. since 9/11 ? I think not.<br />
We must somehow put pressure on our leaders to stop the import of this human garbage and close our borders to illegals. Also it must be realized that Islam is a cult not a religion. The people that follow it&#8217;s teachings are the weakest of mind and are willing to blindly follow the teachings of some insane Imam. This cult should be banned in all western counties.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many descriptors that could have been used. Ungrateful little shit springs to mind. Given a home after fleeing ethic killings in Bosnia, he shoots his hosts! Loony shit would do too. He was indiscriminate. Unthinking. He could at least have sought out some bloody feminazis. There are more deserving targets in the family courts than in the mall. Thick shit with vertigo might have fitted. He would have had more success if he&#039;d climbed a tower or shot from behind a car-park wall - especially if he was aiming at Judges Chambers windows. These bloody Muslims. They miss opportunities for support all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many descriptors that could have been used. Ungrateful little shit springs to mind. Given a home after fleeing ethic killings in Bosnia, he shoots his hosts! Loony shit would do too. He was indiscriminate. Unthinking. He could at least have sought out some bloody feminazis. There are more deserving targets in the family courts than in the mall. Thick shit with vertigo might have fitted. He would have had more success if he&#8217;d climbed a tower or shot from behind a car-park wall &#8211; especially if he was aiming at Judges Chambers windows. These bloody Muslims. They miss opportunities for support all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Fockaert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Fockaert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Itâ€™s disgusting how few news outlets are even mentioning that this guy was Muslim.&quot;

If he was Jewish, you&#039;d be labeling the journalist anti-Semitic. Why aren&#039;t you labeling the story writer anti-Muslim? 

&quot;Iâ€™m sitting here livid reading this while listening to Savage about this very same act.&quot;

Of course, Michael Savage&#039;s real name is Michael Alan Weiner - a Jewish name, so we can expect him to be ranting on about Muslims trying to get us Goyim livid against his enemies. 

Don&#039;t be a sucker for the propaganda war that is being waged against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Itâ€™s disgusting how few news outlets are even mentioning that this guy was Muslim.&#8221;</p>
<p>If he was Jewish, you&#8217;d be labeling the journalist anti-Semitic. Why aren&#8217;t you labeling the story writer anti-Muslim? </p>
<p>&#8220;Iâ€™m sitting here livid reading this while listening to Savage about this very same act.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, Michael Savage&#8217;s real name is Michael Alan Weiner &#8211; a Jewish name, so we can expect him to be ranting on about Muslims trying to get us Goyim livid against his enemies. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be a sucker for the propaganda war that is being waged against us.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am pissed that religion wasn&#039;t brought into this.  The way CNN characterized the story I believe it was some troubled White kid who likely listened to too much heavy metal music and decided to shoot up some people at a mall.  Either that, or he just got dumped before Valentine&#039;s and went to go kill some people who had love since the last place he went was a card shop.

Never once was the fact that he was Muslim and this could be a the opening salvos in exporting terrorism to America.  

Hell, if this was instead Jerusalem, the story might go like this: &quot;Palestinian Gunman Opens Fire In Jerusalem; Israeli Raid Kills 4&quot;  

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V121/N69/long4-_69.69w.html

I guess he did better than that terrorist since he bagged 6 infidels.  I have to ask, what the hell is wrong with our national media?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am pissed that religion wasn&#8217;t brought into this.  The way CNN characterized the story I believe it was some troubled White kid who likely listened to too much heavy metal music and decided to shoot up some people at a mall.  Either that, or he just got dumped before Valentine&#8217;s and went to go kill some people who had love since the last place he went was a card shop.</p>
<p>Never once was the fact that he was Muslim and this could be a the opening salvos in exporting terrorism to America.  </p>
<p>Hell, if this was instead Jerusalem, the story might go like this: &#8220;Palestinian Gunman Opens Fire In Jerusalem; Israeli Raid Kills 4&#8243;  </p>
<p><a href="http://www-tech.mit.edu/V121/N69/long4-_69.69w.html" rel="nofollow">http://www-tech.mit.edu/V121/N69/long4-_69.69w.html</a></p>
<p>I guess he did better than that terrorist since he bagged 6 infidels.  I have to ask, what the hell is wrong with our national media?</p>
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		<title>By: BodeMillerJokes</title>
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		<dc:creator>BodeMillerJokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really see how the shooter&#039;s supposed religion is in any way relevant to this story.

Frankly, I don&#039;t even care about this shooting. Let&#039;s allow the families to grieve in peace and not use the victims for political points.

Thank you for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really see how the shooter&#8217;s supposed religion is in any way relevant to this story.</p>
<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t even care about this shooting. Let&#8217;s allow the families to grieve in peace and not use the victims for political points.</p>
<p>Thank you for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Joyanna Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyanna Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I too heard this all day long, and NOT one person would discribe the teenager. NOT one.

Even the big time sheriff begging people to go back to the malls, who talked BS for such a long time...no mention.  

If this isn&#039;t proof that most of our media is religiously controlled to manipulate us, I don&#039;t know what is.

Thank god for the internet, and Mr. Rogue Jew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I too heard this all day long, and NOT one person would discribe the teenager. NOT one.</p>
<p>Even the big time sheriff begging people to go back to the malls, who talked BS for such a long time&#8230;no mention.  </p>
<p>If this isn&#8217;t proof that most of our media is religiously controlled to manipulate us, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>Thank god for the internet, and Mr. Rogue Jew.</p>
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		<title>By: Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s disgusting how few news outlets are even mentioning that this guy was Muslim.  I am not saying that perhaps he just did it because he was nuts, but you would think they would at least mention it since Muslims have been saying they will attack us again.  

JJTAUP:  I totally agree with you that this is just like the guy in San Francisco who even admitted he wanted to kill as many &quot;infidels&quot; as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s disgusting how few news outlets are even mentioning that this guy was Muslim.  I am not saying that perhaps he just did it because he was nuts, but you would think they would at least mention it since Muslims have been saying they will attack us again.  </p>
<p>JJTAUP:  I totally agree with you that this is just like the guy in San Francisco who even admitted he wanted to kill as many &#8220;infidels&#8221; as possible.</p>
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