“The 9/11 Solution” Video Removed by Google/YouTube
I received this email late last night after I attempted to view the video “The 9/11 Solution”:
“Charles,
On 2/10/07 I posted “The 9/11 Solutionâ€,
and since then our logs show that 19,802
have visited the page and seen the video.
Unfortunately, for reasons not clear, Google Video removed the video from their web site last night.
This morning I attempted to upload the video to
YouTube.
It was automatically removed:
“…due to terms of use violation.â€
I have read the Terms & Conditions of both Google
Video and YouTube and there is nothing in this video that violates their written terms.
I am the video maker and am sole copyright
owner of the material.
The content is not illegal, an invasion of anyone’s privacy, obscene, an incitement of hate or violence,or a portrayal of graphic violence.
In short, they had no cause to remove it.”
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/80.html
Is this Communist China where Google censors content?
Why did Google/Youtube remove the 9/11 Solution video?
What is on that video we shouldn’t see or hear?
You may wish to view the many other videos at http://www.brasschecktv.com/
before they too are removed, ie. censored.
http://keruxreplies.blogspot.com/
Just before publishing this post, I tried to view a video by Keith Olbermann titled, “Blame it on Iran.” It too was removed by YouTube: “This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.”
which evidence can be seen here: http://tinyurl.com/g4ntw
Edited in February 15:
From the http://www.brasschecktv.com/ web site:
“He’s an explanation of what Google is preventing you from seeing:
Two major 9/11 anomalies have been thoroughly documented, specifically:
1) The stand down of US air defense on the morning of 9/11 that permitted commercial jet aircraft to fly erratically and in restricted air space without challenge
2) Overwhelming physical evidence that World Trade Center buildings #1, #2, and #7 were brought down by controlled demolition
A third significant anomaly has not been discussed, let alone acknowledged: the reporting by the major US TV news networks in the first few hours immediately after the attacks.
Specifically:
1. MSNBC presented an elaborately detailed story about the lifestyle and anti-US philosophy of Osama bin Laden – while both towers were still burning and long before Bin Laden had been accused by anyone.
2. Fox News featured a “man in the street” eye witness who explained in strangely formal language the science behind why the towers collapsed when most engineers and firemen were utterly baffled and in shock by what had just taken place.
3. CBS featured a Bush administration insider (and not identified as such) as a guest who actively worked to dissuade Dan Rather (and viewers) from speculating that there must have been explosive charges placed in the buildings for them to have collapsed the way they did.
How was it that these stories – based on no fact, no research and no inquirry – appeared in full blown form so quickly on US news networks and then became part of the core myths of what happened on 9/11?
Were these stories prepared in advance?
There’s an old intelligence saying that “once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, but three times is enemy action.”
Because most of these clips ran only once and were not repeated after they’d done their job, it made it difficult, if not impossible, for viewers to analyze them critically.
Now, thanks to the magic of video tape and a few people who immediately started taping the news after the attacks, we have this important evidence that at the very least these attacks appear to have been anticipated and prepared for by forces that have the ability to exert strong influence over the output of the newsrooms of major US news networks.”
After reading this, I realized I had seen the video in qustion once before. I was going back for a second look.
When the video is available again, we will be contacted.
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February 15th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
“I do not in any way think the military or the ATF wanted to kill all those people though.”
“In any way.” Why not, your government wouldn’t do such a thing? Think again, the military types went in with incendiary devices and most of the innoncent civilians burned to death.
February 15th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
He can’t tell you who did it guys. If he crosses that line, he’ll disappear. Didn’t any of you see “Conspiracy Theory?”
February 15th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
Waco definitely was a screw up. The government screwed up and the idiots hiding in the house with automatic weapons screwed up. Worst of all children suffered because of it.
I do not in any way think the military or the ATF wanted to kill all those people though.
February 15th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
“If that is not true I apologize and admit my mistake.”
I don’t delete or edit posts, didn’t even know I could if I wanted to. Apology accepted.
“Hundreds more all over the base would have noticed that.”
So, that means it didn’t happen?
“So now your true colors come out. Waco is a conspiracy too.”
Never said that. However, the FBI along with the military killed over 80 innocent Americans, including women and children. Then they bulldozed over the evidence. Did they or did they not?
“Finally, there absolutely was NO stand down order.”
Yes there was. And if there wasn’t why wasn’t standard operational proceedure followed like it had been 67 other times in the nine months before 9/11?
Here is the stand-down order:
CJCSI 3610.01, dated July 31, 1997, required that all requests for asistance in hijackings be approved by the Secretary of Defense. An update to that order, CJCSI 3610.01, dated June 1, 2001, had an exception for emergencies that would seem to give commanders in the field autonomy in ordering intercepts. However, that exception did not cover requests for “potentially lethal assistance”, the kind required to respond to the attack:
Much more here: http://911review.com/means/standdown.html
Also, did you know there were mulitiple war games going on simultaneously on the same day – 9/11? Cheney was masterminding the entire operation. Keep in mind, that in the late 1980s -
Cheney served as the Secretary of Defense from March 1989 to January 1993 under President George H. W. Bush. He directed the United States invasion of Panama and Operation Desert Storm in the Middle East. In 1991 he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom for “preserving America’s defenses at a time of great change around the world.”[15]
So he was very familiar with defense department operations.
The war games were called Operation Northern Vigilance. Did you know that?
February 15th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
You’re a prime example of why people in other countries think Americans are stupid:
http://www.shoutfile.com/v/gSfSsCpR
and why nothing will happen until Americans suffer more.
And here is a 1954 High School Civics test:
http://www.rense.com/general75/pass.htm
February 15th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
CF:
The aircraft were landed at “secret airfields” huh? I thought you said only 50 – 75 people were involved? Just one aircraft at one airfield is going to involve hundreds of people alone. And a civilian passenger aircraft is going to stick out at a military airfield. Hundreds more all over the base would have noticed that. The more you write the more your “story” falls apart. That must be why you still refuse to write what you believe.
So now your true colors come out. Waco is a conspiracy too. Yeah its real shocking that military equipment was used to watch the compound both day and NIGHT. Nobody else has that kind of equipment.
If you aren’t editing and deleting people’s arguments then I am wrong and owe you an apology for that, but a couple of posts lead me to believe people were complaining that you changed or deleted their posts. If that is not true I apologize and admit my mistake.
Why are you so concerned about my name? Do you want to put me on your newsletter list? I don’t want any. And based on the statements of everybody else here I am not the one who has to worry about my ideas being seen as “unusual”. Everybody that knows me knows how I think and that I am a patriot. What does everybody that knows you think?
Finally, there absolutely was NO stand down order. Alert fighters had been taken off active alert long ago after the end of the Cold War. The Air Force wasn’t caught with its pants down. Congress and the civilian leadership had long ago decided that couldn’t bare the cost of keeping aircraft all over the country on tactical alert.
The pilots gave up control to the hijackers because that was standard FAA and company protocol. They were trained to do that. FAA had never imagined that such a kind of attack would happen here.
TOUBROUK:
I’ll work on how that infiltration expert known as the Easter Bunny got in, planted explosives, and got out without being seen. Anything I come up with will be more believable than some of the junk we have been reading.
February 15th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
“America believe that 19 Jihadists with boxcutters did it.”
I beg to difer and scientific polls agree. Here’s an earlier poll by Zogby International:
August 30, 2004
“Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and “Consciously Failed†To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York’s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals
On the eve of a Republican National Convention invoking 9/11 symbols, sound bytes and imagery, half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall say that some of our leaders “knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act,” according to the poll conducted by Zogby International. The poll of New York residents was conducted from Tuesday August 24 through Thursday August 26, 2004. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.5.
The poll is the first of its kind conducted in America that surveys attitudes regarding US government complicity in the 9/11 tragedy. Despite the acute legal and political implications of this accusation, nearly 30% of registered Republicans and over 38% of those who described themselves as “very conservative” supported the claim.”
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855
More recent polls put the figure at 85% as I posted previously.
You remind me of those high schoolers who wanted to copy my reports.
Don’t be a wuss, do the research.
February 15th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
You are so bashfull, CF!
Come on now, we gave you our opinion! America believe that 19 Jihadists with boxcutters did it. Patriot vouch for the Easter Bunny (one tough Mo-Fo) and I believe ODESSA pulled it out.
Now it’s your turn! Don’t be a wuss and tell us! Who did it?
February 15th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
C’mon,
do the research.
February 15th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
***See post #24 and do the research.***
Come-on, tell us!
February 15th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Not all Italians are in the mob, and not all Jews are Zionists. Are you a Zionist?
February 15th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
I GUESS THAT WOULD MAKE ME IN YOUR EYES A ZIONIST PIG CONSPIRACY NUT JOB….NICE TO HAVE YA ABOARD, IF ONLY FOR THE HUMOR!
February 15th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
See post #24 and do the research.
Hint: Neither
February 15th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
So, CF, who did it? The Illuminati or the FreeMassons?
February 15th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
“CF…You quack me up…Just another screeching moonbat conspiracy nut job, you are!” Rogue Jew
That’s sweet, coming from another pseudo-brave man who thinks the Islamics are out to get him and take over the world. LOL
February 15th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
“Also, only a COWARD alters people’s posts to hide facts and arguments against them. I can see deleting obscenities, but not somebody who just disagrees with you. Don’t be a COWARD.”
You refering to me? I haven’t altered anyone’s post and never would. An ex-airforce career man calling someone else a coward while hiding behind a pseudonym is ironic. What are you afraid of Pseudo-Patriot, someone you know reading about how foolish you are? Or are you afraid you’ll be called out for what you think and say? Come out from behind that false name.
And you all you guys are going on about how the government’s tale about 9/11 is believable, all the while Google is censoring the evidence you need to find the truth. But then again, some people can’t accept the truth – it would alter their entire world and make them change and maybe make them actually do something.
“Our military members would NEVER allow their fellow citizens to be attacked.”
Sure they would, during Waco for one example.
“The GAO reports that units of the Texas National Guard, US Army, Alabama National Guard and US Air Force provided the following services and equipment:
* Surveillance
* Reconnaissance
* Transport
* Maintenance & Repairs
* Training & Instruction
* Helicopters
* Unarmed tactical ground vehicles
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/bl090599.htm
And the militarized police force is ‘attacking’ it’s own citizens daily around the country.
The US air force had a stand-down order. That’s a fact. New proceedure was instituted June 1, 2001.
Either that, or your airforce buddies were caught with their pants down around their ankles while “19 cave dwelling Arabs” kicked our ass. And while we’re at it, what about those ex-airforce pilots in the cock-pits of those four airliners? You don’t really think they’d let hijackers take over their plane do you?
I don’t. I have more faith in our airforce personnel than you do. I don’t think those planes were even hijacked. I think they were diverted to an government airfield. In fact, there is evidence that two of the planes supposedly involved are still in operation today.
Keep throwing up those clay pigeons.
“In the beginning of a change,
the patriot is a scarce and brave man, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds however,
the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”
Mark Twain
February 15th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
I think we need another article here. We could call it:
“MAKE YOUR OWN 9-11 CONSPIRACY THEORY!!”
This is a community work. We could put some imaginative theories about who is REALLY behind 9-11, vote for the best one and then make a sub-par, grainy home video about our idea. Then we will post it on YouTube to revela the TRUTH to the World!
Right now, Patriot try to push the idea that the Easter Bunny (A real Mo-Fo I might add) is behind the mess. I believe that ODESSA (Organisation Der Ehemaligen SS-Angehörigen “Organization of former members of the SS”) did the deed.
I am waiting for other entries on the subject! Who did it?!?”
February 15th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
CF…You quack me up…Just another screeching moonbat conspiracy nut job, you are!
February 15th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
“GOOGLE’S halo has lost a bit of its shine.
Hey, leave me out of this, Charles! I’m still as shiny as I ever was.
“Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, John 3:20,21
As was stated to another columnist here “even the devil can quote scripture”. Another verse says “the truth will set you free”. You definitely need some truth (not to mention, some type of prescription to stop those darn voices.)
February 15th, 2007 at 10:33 am
***Gee it’s really SHOCKING that the owners of the WTC would take out an insurance policy against terrorist attacks. It’s not like they were ever attacked by terrorists before, right?***
Just a little history reminder; the WTC was hit once by terrorists using a U-Haul truck filled with explosives.
If your building became a terrorist target overnight, do it make sense to take insurance in this case?
If we follow CF’s thinking, we need to believe that everyone who take a fire insurance for their homes is a pyromaniac.
February 15th, 2007 at 10:13 am
More obfuscation. Simple questions require simple answers, not links to the “Where’s Waldo” hide and seek pages. If you are unable to condense your scattered concepts and ramblings into simple if terse answers, I’ll help you out by giving you a few definitave examples of what you might have said.
Bush is responsible.
Cheney did it.
The Tooth Fairy is behind it all.
Everyone knows that the Zionist puppet masters orchestrated it.
I did it.
And if that is too much for you, you can always resort to the tried and true “Yo Momma”, or F*** you.
February 15th, 2007 at 10:07 am
I’ll just talk about what I know from my Air Force career here:
There was absolutely no “stand down” order on 9/11. None what so ever. I was in the Air Force when these attacks happened and I volunteered on September 16th to go with the first wing deploying for some payback.
If you would so some real military research you would find that after the end of the Cold War our country had NO alert aircraft anywhere in the continental U.S. and our air defenses were set up to repel outside attacks.
During the Cold War keeping alert aircraft up in the air and on the ground ready for immediate scramble costs tens of billions of dollars each year in fuel, maintenance, training, as well as additional pilots and ground personnel. Your buddy Clinton got rid of all that while he was busy dismantling our military and intelligence forces in the 90s.
Our military members would NEVER allow their fellow citizens to be attacked. Air Force bases around the country, including where I was at Edwards AFB, worked as fast as they could to ready, arm, fuel, and scramble aircraft, but it is not as simple as hopping in your car.
Gee it’s really SHOCKING that the owners of the WTC would take out an insurance policy against terrorist attacks. It’s not like they were ever attacked by terrorists before, right?
And it’s really amazing that people would have been talking about UBL. It’s not like UBL hadn’t blown up two of our embassies and killed many of our sailors in a naval attack in the last couple of years. They just spoke about Al Zawahiri on TV a few minutes ago. I guess the next fake attack will be any minute now.
Also, only a COWARD alters people’s posts to hide facts and arguments against them. I can see deleting obscenities, but not somebody who just disagrees with you. Don’t be a COWARD.
And we are STILL waiting for you to tell us your demented tale of who carried out the 9/11 attacks. My bet is still on the Easter Bunny. Damn him and his fluffy cuteness.
February 15th, 2007 at 9:09 am
Yes, they don’t want the world to know that Nazis are behind all this.
February 15th, 2007 at 8:34 am
Not to be surprised:
The gauleiters at Joseph Farrah’s site WND and those at Savage’s site among many many others censor material all the time.
February 15th, 2007 at 8:32 am
Weird, I told the truth some hours ago about all this and now the thread where I posted it is gone!
Guess I was hitting home too close!
February 15th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Carl Bernstein: Bush administration’s disinformation, misinformation ’something I have never witnessed before on this scale’
Mike Sheehan
“This president has a record of dishonesty and obfuscation that is Nixonian in character in its willingness to manipulate the press, to manipulate the truth,” he adds. “We have gone to war on the basis of misinformation, disinformation and knowing lies from top to bottom.”
Veteran reporter Carl Bernstein says the lack of truth and candor from the Bush administration is unprecedented in his experience.
http://tinyurl.com/2kexs8
February 15th, 2007 at 8:24 am
“Again, the question arises and you keep dodging. Just who exactly did do it.”
I answered your question on the “Intro. Charles Fockaert” thread as follows:
“Would you like the name of the person who gave the stand-down order for the normally SOP when an airline or other airplane goes off course in any air space controlled by air traffic control?
Or who leased the WTC towers just before 9/11 and took out a complete insurance policy against acts of terrorism and loss of rent revenue?
Would you like the name of a principle in the company that handled security for the WTC predeeding and during the 9/11 ‘terrorist’ attack?
Would you like the name of the person in charge of NORAD’s Operation Northern Vigilance taking place at the very same time on the very same day as the alleged ‘terrorist’ attack?
Would you like the names of the firemen who were eyewitnesses, [in this case earwitnesses] to hearing bombs being detonated while the WTC towers were collapsing? “Boom….., boom….., boom…., boom…..â€
Would you like the name of the person who said publically, not once, but twice, that he saw the FIRST plane that hit the North Tower?
Would you like the name of the person who said the order was given at around 4:30 pm on 9/11 to ‘pull’ the building?
Would you like the name of the person who allowed several Israelis that were caught by the FBI and suspected of being involved in 9/11 to leave the United States immediately following 9/11 even though most if not all other individuals were being prevented from doing so?
Would you like the name ………”
It would be a simple matter for anyone to do a search to be able to provide the names given the information above.
Happy searching.
February 15th, 2007 at 8:04 am
And why did they do it? Oil money? Oil? Power for Republicans? Halliburton? Cheney’s money he gave away? Or Ive even seen the deferred pay cited as proof, all of 100K to 200K per year, which sure is a good paycheck, but in the scheme of things, to call those sums conspiracy money is just hillbilly silly.
February 15th, 2007 at 7:13 am
Again, the question arises and you keep dodging. Just who exactly did do it.
You can count me as a part of the we that you ignore.
February 15th, 2007 at 2:48 am
From the http://www.brasschecktv.com/ web site:
“He’s an explanation of what Google is preventing you from seeing:
Two major 9/11 anomalies have been thoroughly documented, specifically:
1) The stand down of US air defense on the morning of 9/11 that permitted commercial jet aircraft to fly erratically and in restricted air space without challenge
2) Overwhelming physical evidence that World Trade Center buildings #1, #2, and #7 were brought down by controlled demolition
A third significant anomaly has not been discussed, let alone acknowledged: the reporting by the major US TV news networks in the first few hours immediately after the attacks.
Specifically:
1. MSNBC presented an elaborately detailed story about the lifestyle and anti-US philosophy of Osama bin Laden – while both towers were still burning and long before Bin Laden had been accused by anyone.
2. Fox News featured a “man in the street” eye witness who explained in strangely formal language the science behind why the towers collapsed when most engineers and firemen were utterly baffled and in shock by what had just taken place.
3. CBS featured a Bush administration insider (and not identified as such) as a guest who actively worked to dissuade Dan Rather (and viewers) from speculating that there must have been explosive charges placed in the buildings for them to have collapsed the way they did.
How was it that these stories – based on no fact, no research and no inquirry – appeared in full blown form so quickly on US news networks and then became part of the core myths of what happened on 9/11?
Were these stories prepared in advance?
There’s an old intelligence saying that “once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, but three times is enemy action.”
Because most of these clips ran only once and were not repeated after they’d done their job, it made it difficult, if not impossible, for viewers to analyze them critically.
Now, thanks to the magic of video tape and a few people who immediately started taping the news after the attacks, we have this important evidence that at the very least these attacks appear to have been anticipated and prepared for by forces that have the ability to exert strong influence over the output of the newsrooms of major US news networks.”
After reading this, I realized I had seen the video in qustion once before. I was going back for a second look.
When the video is available again, we will be contacted.
February 15th, 2007 at 2:22 am
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February 15th, 2007 at 1:06 am
CF SAID: Are you the Lone Ranger? What’s with the ‘we’?
The “we” would be the countless posters in the last 1 1/2 weeks that have told you that you are chasing after something that doesn’t exist.
That’s my WE.
Where’s your WE Chicken Little?
February 15th, 2007 at 12:35 am
“Family members of victims began pressing for a probe only weeks after the attacks. “We need to understand the role that each of these agencies and cabinet officers played and whether or not they were doing their jobs — and if not find out why,” says Robin Wiener, a board member of Families of September 11, whose 33-year-old brother Jeffrey was killed in the World Trade Center. “We don’t want any other family to suffer the way we suffered,” she says.
But President Bush successfully opposed the creation of the commission for more than a year. He said publicly that an independent investigation would distract leaders from his newly-declared war on terrorism. After a joint House and Senate intelligence committee inquiry found that some information related to the Sept. 11 hijackers had been mishandled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Central Intelligence Agency, Congressional support for a commission mushroomed. The White House then reversed itself and on Sept. 20, 2002, announced its “strong support” for a commission.”
http://www.becomethemedia.com/news/2003/WH_delays_911_investigation.htm
February 15th, 2007 at 12:19 am
At the time they took the money – about $1.6 million per family, they may not have realized any thing was wrong. And they were traumatised by having lost a family member, most likely a husband the breadwinner. Hence, they accepted.
A good journalist might want to investigate these families now and ask them what they would do it they could do it over. Why hasn’t someone from the MSM done that?
The intellectually lazy are those who accept the Offical Conspiracy Theory – not those who have spent hudnreds of hours – like I have – investigating 9/11.
And no one I know of is jumping up and down hysterically claiming the government did something.
We hear it all the time from useful idiots – “I haven’t done anything wrong and I have nothing to hide.” If the Bush Admin. has nothing to hide, why did they purposely delay – for over 14 months -
“Only in mid-December, after more than three months had passed without any steps towards an investigation, were resolutions introduced in the Senate to establish an independent bipartisan commission into September 11….But as late as January 29, Vice President Dick Cheney called Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle seeking to forestall any investigation at all…..Daschle refused this request, but agreed to confine the inquiry to hearings by the intelligence committees, in what the Democratic leader called an effort to “limit the scope and the overall review of what happened.†The special joint House-Senate investigation was announced last month, after the White House finally agreed to cooperate.”
and stonewall the 9/11 Commission, provide inadequate funds, refuse to honor subpoenas, demand an unreasonable completion date, give only two ‘high ranking’ Commission members only two hours access to Bush with Cheney at his side to coach him, not investigate the 1200 % abnormal put options purchased on the two airlines involved just days before 9/11, ship all the steel – the evidence from the scene of the crime – a felony – out of the country so quickly, refuse to give us the complete cctv vidoes taken from the service station across the street from the Pentagon, lied about the black boxes they say they don’t have, ad infinitum?
Why in the world, if Al Qaeda and bin Laden and “19 Arabs with boxcutters’ were indeed the perps, would the Bush administration take so many overt and covert steps to delay and prevent a complete and through investigation into one of the biggest crimes in Amerian history, unless they had something to hide?
“Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, John 3:20,21
February 14th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
You really expect us to believe that over 5,000 families would accept being paid to shut up about something, if they believed there was something important being hidden from them? With all the lawyers who would salivate to become part of some huge class-action lawsuit undoubtedly trying to convince them NOT to do any such thing? And less than 1% would make a stink about it?
Please stop insulting our intelligence that way. 1% of people would make a stink over ANYTHING, even if there was no conspiracy theorists out there blaring their horns to try to gin up public opinion.
Oh, and by the way, just because the intellectually lazy in this country can be convinced that there was some sort of cover-up does not constitute evidence. That’s all that your polls indicate – that a large number of people (who are basically bored and looking for something to spice up their life anyway) can be convinced of something by enough people jumping up and down and hysterically claiming that the government did something bad.
February 14th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Are you the Lone Ranger? What’s with the ‘we’?
February 14th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
You haven’t even hit one single thing yet. Quoting junk and paranoia proves nothing but the fact that you are delusional. Noboody here is even slightly convinced. Has one single person even agreed with you yet?
We’re still waiting for you to tell us who carried out the attacks.
February 14th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
“Third, the vast majority of family members of 9/11 victims are completely against this just of junk you are referencing.”
That’s because they took the ’shut-up’ money.
“I just didn’t like the idea that Big Brother — the government — was going to handle everything for us,” said Armand Talignani, in telephone interview from his home in New Jersey. “We still have the right to go our own route.”
“It was just to pay people off,” Mitchell Zykofsky, John Talignani’s stepson, said of the federal fund. “The whole thing was a government panacea to escape liability for what they and the airliners are responsible for.”
“It just infuriates me that the airlines don’t want to take responsibility,” added Zykofsky, a city police officer who lives in Queens.
To qualify for the government funds, the families had to waive their right to sue the airlines or any other potentially liable domestic entity
Several class action suits against the airlines have been filed in behalf of Sept. 11 relatives.
Talignani’s relatives are among the plaintiffs in a legal action crafted by Motley Rice, the South Carolina firm headed by super-lawyer Ron Motley
It would have to be a family decision but my vote would be for a day in court,” said Zykofsky. “I want an understanding of what happened on Sept. 11…. I want to know why security was breached.”
http://www.911injured.org/Media/News/silive011204.htm
With one day to go before the deadline, the fund set up to compensate victims of 9/11 has paid out close to $6 billion — more than $3 billion more than its overseer’s original estimate.
The Sept. 11th Victim Compensation Fund, which closes at midnight in accordance with a congressional mandate, has authorized $5.9 billion in payments to the families of injured or killed World Trade Center workers.
Fund workers still have hundreds of claims to finalize before the deadline, said Kenneth Feinberg, the special master overseeing it.
“We will be working right up until midnight,” said Feinberg.
Last year, Feinberg had said that the fund would likely pay $2 billion to $3 billion to victims and families — who accept the settlement in exchange for not suing airlines or other U.S. companies that may have been negligent before the terror attacks.
Nearly three years after establishing a fund to compensate the families of Sept. 11 victims, the federal government said yesterday that it had completed the task and that it would end up paying more than 5,000 families almost $7 billion.
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-4998.html
The many trials of 9/11 widow Ellen Mariani
By Jerry Mazza
Online Journal Associate Editor
Traurig Greenberg works with 9-11 victims on planning their US government ‘hushmail/bribery estates.’ That is, to receive the money [on average about $1.6 million] the victim’s family must sign an agreement never to sue the government [or the airlines] for any reason. Victim-wife Ellen Mariani is currently being legally harassed for not signing and for holding the Bush government’s feet to the fire.â€
…..The Red Cross red tape forced needy families into the beckoning arms of US Attorney General John Ashcroft and Special Master Kenneth Feinberg. Just sign here on the dotted line, folks, and let’s keep the US government out of the courtroom. This is what led Ellen to call it “the Feinberg hush fund……This pattern of stalling and misdirecting funds only exacerbated the plight of victim families. They gave up and gave into Kenneth Feinberg’s Victims Compensation Fund, losing their right to challenge the government in a lawsuit.“
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1654.shtml
You keep throwing those clay pigeons up and I keep shooting them down.
February 14th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
And by the way, we are STILL waiting for you to tell us who carried out the 9/11 attacks.
February 14th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
First, the vast majority DON’T THINK THEIR GOVERNMENT ATTACKED THEM. If that was the question almost everybody would say “hell no”.
You are hiding behind the vague poll from the NY Slimes and the Dan Rather Forged documents network.
Second, quit using the word “fact” when everything you write about is vague, constrived, or just plan nuts.
Third, the vast majority of family members of 9/11 victims are completely against this just of junk you are referencing. Over 2,700 victims probably had at 40,000 family members and all you conspiracy nuts can come up with are 40 that are willing to associate with you. Real impressive.
February 14th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
“Comparing the Tiananmen Square cover-up to an imagined 9/11 conspiracy that has been shown to be an absolute farce is disrespectful to the victims of both tragedies.”
Americans Question Bush on 9/11 Intelligence
Many adults in the United States believe the current federal government has not been completely forthcoming on the issue of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, according to a poll by the New York Times and CBS News. 53 per cent of respondents think the Bush administration is hiding something, and 28 per cent believe it is lying.
Only 16 per cent of respondents say the government headed by U.S. president George W. Bush is telling the truth on what it knew prior to the terrorist attacks, down five points since May 2002.
Polling Data
When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?
Telling the truth Oct. 2006 16% Oct. 2002 21%
Hiding something Oct. 2006 65% Oct. 2002 53%
Mostly lying Oct. 2006 28% Oct. 2002 8%
Not sure Oct. 2006 3% Oct. 2002 6%
Source: The New York Times / CBS News
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 983 American adults, conducted from Oct. 5 to Oct. 8, 2006. Margin of error is 4 per cent.
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/13469
“…..is disrespectful to the victims of both tragedies.”
NEW YORK CITY, NY (Oct. 26, 2004) – An alliance of 100 prominent Americans and 40 family members of those killed on 9/11today announced the release of the 911 Truth Statement, a call for immediate inquiry into evidence that suggests high-level government officials may have deliberately allowed the September 11th attacks to occur. The Statement supports an August 31st Zogby poll that found nearly 50% of New Yorkers believe the government had foreknowledge and “consciously failed to act,” with 66% wanting a new 9/11 investigation.”
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633
The 9/11Â Families
Although independent investigations began within weeks of both Pearl Harbor and the Kennedy assassination, the same was not true of the attacks of September 11th. Most are unaware that formation of the 9/11 Commission was strongly opposed by many in Washington, including the Bush administration. It was only due to pressure from the 9/11 families, led by a particular twelve calling themselves the Family Steering Committee, that, fourteen months after the attacks, the first hearing finally began. These twelve remained active in monitoring the Commission’s investigation, providing a list of hundreds of specific, well-researched questions to the Commissioners. In the end, the Final Report failed to answer seventy percent of them.
In ‘9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH’, five of the most prominent members of the Family Steering Committee tell their story for the first time, providing the most powerful argument yet for why 9/11 still needs investigation.
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/families
These 40 families don’t seem to think so. Once again, Pseudo-Patriot, the facts and you disagree.
February 14th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
It’s starting to look a whole lot like DU around here.
Google cooperating with China is terrible.
Maybe they shouldn’t have pulled the video, but they and Youtube pull videos all the time for various reasons. They are not mandated to allow broadcasting. The creators of the video are free to create their own website where they can continually show the video.
Comparing the Tiananmen Square cover-up to an imagined 9/11 conspiracy that has been shown to be an absolute farce is disrespectful to the victims of both tragedies.
CF: For as much as you talk about all of your detailed “evidence” and “research” this is a huge anti-climax.
And by the way, we are STILL waiting for you to tell us who carried out the 9/11 attacks.
February 14th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
The article isn’t about the meaning or definition of censorship, it’s about the content of the video “The 9/11 Solution” that Google removed from their sites, and which the producer says is
The big clue everyone missed
How the key 9/11 myths were implanted;
But instead are – “Why did Google/YouTube remove the “9/11 Solution” video? What is on that video we shouldn’t see or hear?”
“Controversy has occurred over Google’s decision to adhere to the Internet censorship policy in mainland China, colloquially known as, “The Great Firewall of China”. Google.cn search results are filtered so as not to bring up any results concerning the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, sites supporting the independence movements of Tibet and Taiwan or the Falun Gong movement, and other information perceived to be harmful to the People’s Republic of China. This is interpreted by some activists as against the “Don’t Be Evil” corporate philosophy of Google.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_by_Google
Is 9/11 and Iraq in the US becoming what Tiananmen Square/Tibet /Taiwan is in China?
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btw Mike: nice to see the edit feature added. Thanks much.
February 14th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Because some Corporate twit doesn’t have a command of the English language, this means what? You get to do it too?
Google is co-operating with China’s censorship. A business decision, and bad on them, I say – selling freedom out for profit. Boo. Hiss.
They are still not censoring you, or your buddy. They are under no obligation to provide that service for you – except in a fascist state.
February 14th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
I told you CF who’s behind Goggle on another tread. They have all the reasons to pull that one out.
February 14th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
“GOOGLE’S halo has lost a bit of its shine. The company that has defined itself as the champion of internet users with its slogan “Don’t be evil” was slammed last week as hypocritical and self-serving for going ahead with a Chinese version of its search engine that will censor pages unpalatable to Beijing.”
Editorial New Scientist
http://tinyurl.com/33pute
China censorship damaged us, Google founders admit
“Google’s decision to censor its search engine in China was bad for the company, its founders admitted yesterday.”
Asked whether he regretted the decision, Mr Brin admitted yesterday: “On a business level, that decision to censor… was a net negative.”
http://business.guardian.co.uk/davos2007/story/0,,1999994,00.html
Gee, even Google’s Mr. Brin uses the word ‘censor.’
Google censors itself for China
“Leading internet company Google has said it will censor its search services in China in order to gain greater access to China’s fast-growing market.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4645596.stm
BBC quotes Google saying it will ‘censor’ itself.
February 14th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
It says “official.”
It is imposed upon others. It is not internal. If you refuse to publish certain things on your own website, paper, et al it is merely the exercise of Private Property Rights. If, and only if, you impose it on someone else’s private property – in and official capacity – then, you have “censorship.”
I know it is hard for fascists to understand, but do try to keep up.
February 14th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
“Google cannot censor a video. Google is a private entity. Censoring is defined as prior restraint by a governmental entity. The government – and the government alone – has the power to censor.” Gonzman
censor:
1. an official who examines books, plays, news reports, motion pictures, radio and television programs, letters, cablegrams, etc., for the purpose of suppressing parts deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds.
2. any person who supervises the manners or morality of others.
…6. to examine and act upon as a censor.
7. to delete (a word or passage of text) in one’s capacity as a censor.
censorship:
1. the act or practice of censoring.
2. the office or power of a censor.
http://dictionary.reference.com/
Doesn’t say a word about a government entity
censorship, official prohibition or restriction of any type of expression believed to threaten the political, social, or moral order. It may be imposed by governmental authority, local or national, by a religious body, or occasionally by a powerful private group. It may be applied to the mails, speech, the press, the theater, dance, art, literature, photography, the cinema, radio, television, or computer networks. Censorship may be either preventive or punitive, according to whether it is exercised before or after the expression has been made public. In use since antiquity, the practice has been particularly thoroughgoing under autocratic and heavily centralized governments, from the Roman Empire to the totalitarian states of the 20th cent.
http://www.answers.com/topic/censorship
Governments or “powerful private groups” can exert pressure on private individuals or companies like Google to do the censoring for them, can’t they?
February 14th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
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February 14th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
Google cannot censor a video. Google is a private entity. Censoring is defined as prior restraint by a governmental entity. The government – and the government alone – has the power to censor.
As a private individual, if someone does something which you deem objectionable, be they words, speech, or anything else, you may deny them the use of your property, facilities, or resources to continue to do that. You are not obliged to listen to them.
This is freedom. Kindly extend that to others as well. Google- as a private entity – is likewise entitled to that same freedom.
Your “Communist China” comparison is not merely inappropriate, but full of hysterical hyperbole, and makes the whole of your argument fatally flawed since it proceeds from a false premise.