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Elder George
A Little More About the Unseen

The two part series entitled, Why Women perated Businesses Fail, indicated that the unseen activities of men provide the environment and means in which the seen activities of women take place. Since that series received extensive readership, I decided to provide additional illustrations in this article of the relationship of the unseen and the seen in our daily lives.

 
In the recreational activity of ballroom dancing the man leads and the woman follows; however, to the casual observer and to women in particular, it appears that that the woman partner is doing most of the work for she is spinning, jumping, twisting, and turning. Yet after a performance it is the man who is panting. The reason for this is that the energy to spin, jump, twist, and turn came from him. A man dances with his back and shoulders, and they are used to guide and move his female partner.

 
Ginger Rogers once said, “I did everything that Fred Astaire did only in heels and backwards.” Spoken like a true woman. What she did not “see” is that Fred Astaire provided the energy and direction for her movements, which is the relation ship of the Sun to the planets. The Sun provides direction to the planets through the unseen force of gravity, and unseen energy to them. In all of life the masculine principle provides the environment and means in which the feminine principle functions.

 
An African-American friend called me one day about six years ago after watching the Oprah show and sounded livid as he explained that she announced to her audience that women could do anything that men could do. He said, “She transmitted her message on television that men had invented, in front of cameras that men had invented, under lights that men had invented, in front of a microphone that men had invented, and she actually believes she’s doing what men can do.” He was right on both counts; Oprah believed she could do what men could do; and men provided the means and the environment necessary for her to function. Oprah could only relate to what she could “see,” she had no understanding of what she could not see.

 
We see the physical world but we live in the unseen world. When we buy a tract of land and build a house upon it and then move in, where do we live? In the floor? Ceiling? Walls? None of those places. Instead we live in the space bounded by the walls, floor, and ceiling. We live in the same space that existed before we built the house. We live in space; that is all that we ever can live in. Walt Whitman said in his Song of the Open Road, “I believe all great deeds were conceived in the open air.” The open air is the arena of men, of space, of the unseen.

 
Our understanding on the seen and unseen also affects our theology. Dr. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, in a newsletter last year emphasized the importance of the historical Jesus versus the metaphysical Jesus. He made known to all his Western thinking, his focus on the seen and his ignorance of the unseen. Yet Dr. Dobson laments that American Christians have the same rate of divorce as people who have no religious affiliation whatsoever. Right wing Christians lament that the ten states comprising the Bible Belt have a divorce rate 50% higher than the national average. None of the religious leaders address manhood. Dr. Dobson addresses fatherhood as though it were a job classification like electrician, accountant, or jet pilot. Competent fatherhood comes from the unseen qualities of developed manhood. Evolved men make steadfast husbands and competent fathers. The unseen affects the seen-always.

 
One of my readers said that he felt my teachings were holistic. He’s right; they are. The American Medical Association considers me to be an anomaly (some of the readers of MND consider me to be abnormal as well). According to the AMA the average person over 65 takes six to eight prescription medicines daily. I am well over that age and don’t take any medications, prescription or non-prescription. I don’t take nutritional supplements either. When I can afford it I go to holistic practitioners who deal with the thoughts of their patients, either present or from childhood or earlier. Is that not the foundation of Christian healing? Did Jesus not say, “Which is easier to say, arise and walk or thy sins are forgiven?” He said of the man born blind, “Who sinned this man or his father?” We tend to use the term sin too negatively. The physical body manifests our unseen thoughts.

As we get away from material limitations our understanding and spirituality develop. Conversely, as we become more material we ten to live virtual lives instead of actual lives, a topic I will soon address.

 
This article touched upon various forms of our daily activity and hopefully illustrated how the unseen affects the seen. Before concluding I ask that all men reflect upon your relations with one another. The bond that exists between us is one of understanding, not information. It is not explainable. A firm handshake and a meeting of the eyes is all that is necessary to convey that sense of understanding and mutual trust. You are guardians of that which is seen because of your connection to that which is unseen.

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  1. red pill said,

    EG:
    I’m glad at least someone else finally gets it. Why is it that the man travels to the land, chooses the land, clears the land, builds a home and pays for it and defends it, yet the woman he brings home and supports in it is called the home-maker?…

    February 28, 2007 at 10:57 am

  2. Elder George said,

    To red pill,

    A man puts up the house but a good woman makes it a home. We men live in the homes that women make for us and in the social life they develop for us.

    February 28, 2007 at 11:09 am

  3. Virtue said,

    Keep going. I wish to hear more…

    February 28, 2007 at 11:21 am

  4. red pill said,

    EG:
    Sorry friend I’ll not take that as a given. Remove that last morsal of propaganda from your mind and find freedom!
    I’ve had too many homes made uninhabitable by women with a selfish agenda who thought they’d attained special superior status because they allowed me their few and fickle favours.
    A good man makes a good home for a good woman and their offspring. I’ll not diminish myself and my role for unearned assumed super-equality for the sake of access.
    We know what the oldest profession is, and we should know that marriage is the first business relationship. One does not diminish ones role in a business partnership and that goes for a social/marital partnership as well…

    February 28, 2007 at 11:27 am

  5. Elder George said,

    To red pill,

    I’m not convinced you found freedom. To harbor bitterness inhibits freedom; it is controling.

    Because you have had bad experiences does not make all women bad. They are not being raised properly today, especially in England and America, consequently they cannot perform their roles properly. The men aren’t being raised properly either. Neither side understands their obligations.

    But what do you offer as an alternative? The only way to produce life in this world is to mate with women. That mating arrangement has got to be held as something not only important but sacred. Self-gratification plays a minor role in it.

    February 28, 2007 at 12:12 pm

  6. red pill said,

    All I’m saying is that a man shouldn’t minimize his role in a relationship or take a back seat out of chivalrous intent. Women by and large are irreponsible children in American culture and putting them in charge and providing for additional overinflation of an already bloated self-esteem is EXACTLY how we got to this frikken point!!!
    It has nothing to do with bitterness.
    I make my house a home at least as much as someone who has no other stake in it other than rolling over and pretending to be so very impressed for the moment…

    February 28, 2007 at 12:33 pm

  7. Elder George said,

    to red pill,

    Of course it has to do with bitterness. Look at your last sentance. You’re very bitter, as is most of America, as are most of the people who participate in this blog site. The sum total of the bitternes, anger, and resentment is what will fuel a mass movement, if properly directed.

    You have to know who the enemy is red pill, and it is not women. They are very difficult at this time and very confused; that’s why ten million of them suffer from dibilitating depression.

    On a personal level, if you don’t deal with your bitterness and anger it will be like an albatroos around your neck. It will inhibit everything you do.

    February 28, 2007 at 1:10 pm

  8. ggreen67 said,

    Dang EG,

    Your on a good roll this week.

    Its a real pleasure to have well written, articulate food for though.

    Thank you…

    February 28, 2007 at 1:15 pm

  9. red pill said,

    EG:
    NAh I’m not bitter, but I AM the red pill so I can’t sugar coat anything. For anyone. Regardless your amateur assessment at to my mental state, please direct yourself back to the salient issue I address directly and leave other assessments to the professionals, no matter how bitchy they seem at the moment. One does not (out of prudence,) agreeably give teenage boys both liquor and car keys and so likewise giving credit and power to unrealistic underresponsible self-focused wymin-children who think that picking out wallpaper and drapes (for which the man likely blindly pays for) and whelping a brat makes them financial and moral equals in a relationship should not result in a shock when the results come in.
    No, the enemy is not women, for they do what they are designed for, which is to survive and reproduce. The enemy is men who think that catering to childish whims will get them *access*, even(especially?) when it comes out of some other mans home.
    Women are depressed because they know at some level that they are simply living a lie WRT their capability to find self fullfillment and self sufficiency outside of a mans world. They really can’t do without what men provide yet are now taught to despise them and find fault with them at every turn, leaving them losers no matter any which way they turn…

    February 28, 2007 at 2:02 pm

  10. conservativation said,

    EG, the issue of fault gets us round and round much like looking to Christian counseling for gender war solutions, including marriage counceling. There is a defensible doctrine of “fix the man and all will flow through into a more Godly marriage etc.” With or without the Biblical basis, you seem to say the same thing.

    I have to disagree, and I see the dangerous trap that is in this way of thinking. I have friends who struggle mightily under this burden of fixing themselves as they take on responsibility for every single dysfunction in their family. The fact is, they are doing their part and she has a role, but because preachers tickle her ears with this message she won’t recognize it.

    So, if it isn’t women’s fault (case by case of course, not collectively) then I say it is neither men’s fault, and there is therefore little hope of resolution.

    February 28, 2007 at 2:42 pm

  11. Denis said,

    “You have to know who the enemy is red pill, and it is not women. They are very difficult at this time and very confused; that’s why ten million of them suffer from dibilitating depression.”

    All too often, and in all too many ways, I hear both some men, and many women saying women are not responsible and not accountable. Oprah has made billions by selling this idea. Women are responsible for their choices just as much as I am. Feminists set out to transform society into one that is gynocentric. The majority of women have bought what the feminists sold for decades because it looked like there were only upsides: advantages without merit, rights without responsibilities, a myriad of double standards many of which are set in the law. Just because the feminazis wanted to transform society under the theory that gender is a social construct and men and women are interchangeable and changeable did’nt mean that the mass of women had to go along with the program. Maybe they should have thought about the consequences a little more. Today any woman can destroy any man on her word alone. Today in law a woman’s feelings are more important than evidence itself. Today, a woman always gets the equal outcome opportunity to jump ahead of the line. Women have damaged their standing with men on a mass scale. Men are suspicious of women on a mass scale. Cause and effect E.G.. Just because they are now difficult, confused, and on Prozac is no excuse for not making them accountable and putting blame where blame belongs.

    February 28, 2007 at 4:26 pm

  12. red pill said,

    I care not to assess blame, I want to learn what works and what should be avoided as pointless. Clearly, assuming individual equality and attempted forced equality of outcome HAS NEVER EVER WORKED and work in this regard should be abandoned now that perhaps a hundred million lives or more have been squandered in this quest to ignore reality. The weak and unproductive again and again regularly find method to cynically influence ignorant masses to provide for them out of some fallacious construct of fairness, designed to reward those that under Darwinian paradigm must fall out of noncompetativeness.
    Feminism is sold as an equalizer to brutish man-power, yet absolutely requires one group of men to harness other men to provide for a unilateral social arrangment that free men would find repugnant. It’s the ultimate bait-n-switch, and truely I doubt that the gals are in charge of it and if you’ve ever been forced into court, you know its not. Feminists hate middle class mens rules, mens wicked desires, their lusts and restrictions which tend to counter goals of “finding oneself” which happily is self defined, without other responsibility. men are a pain, and represent unkind reality which have now been deemed unnecessary (but keep those payments coming in!).
    THe true measure of potential is result. No feminist culture has succeded in any way shape or form. Women finding success do so only after harnessing the talents, skills, efforts and qualities of men. Once there was a need for mutual effort and the roles were obvious to even the most deluded. They were followed and exhalted because thats what worked. The grossly obvious lack of feminine success worldwide, history wide is telling us something should we wish to listen about basic tendancies that have to be addressed in a realistic fashion. Gift bearers who promis wonderful new and unproven things should be regarded with suspicion and their motives questioned. Jumping on a bandwagon rolling free downhill in the dark should not be considered a wise plan, no matter how tedious reality may be to this time…

    February 28, 2007 at 4:57 pm

  13. Elder George said,

    To Denis,

    Women can never be as accountable as men are; it is not their nature and no amount of legislation can change it.

    The issue has to do with them being where you are and competing with you. They do not belong where you are and are not designed to compete with you. We cannot change women but we can change the law. Patriarchy will do that and then some. The purpose of the movement needs to be to usher in patriarchy and change the social structure of society.

    February 28, 2007 at 5:31 pm

  14. Elder George said,

    To conservativation,

    Of course it men’s fault. It can’t be nobody’s fault. For every effect there must be a cause. Men are the ultimate cause.

    We have to see it in the larger context. Your friend who is trying to pull himself together while trying to hold the family together is working in an un-natural environment. A patriarachal structure whould have lent support to holding the family together while he worked out his own problems. I all likelyhood if he were raised in a patriarchl society he probably wouldn’t have his present issues to deal with.

    Men made the mess that we are in and ony men can change it. To think otherwiase to is to be adopting the feminized victim culture. We did it. We can change it, but not alone. The reason I thew in the blog of the continental influences was to warm the readership that different cultures have to work together to bring about change, but it was glossed over. I will bring it up again.

    Man has to change this mess. There is no one else to do it. Western man is going to have to work collectively with men of other cultures to bring about the necessary change. No one culture can do it alone.

    February 28, 2007 at 5:47 pm

  15. DKSanctuary said,

    “Women can never be as accountable as men are; it is not their nature and no amount of legislation can change it.

    The Creator held EVE accoutable for HER mistake, (remember he cursed Eve, the surpent, and the ground instead of Adam) why are women not as accoutable as men? You say men made it, true, but it was also made because of the rebellious influence and nature of the “jezebel” spirit. (which has taken root in the girls and women of this generation)

    February 28, 2007 at 5:59 pm

  16. Elder George said,

    To DKSanctuary,

    You know that if you read just a little further you will see that God punished Adam for listening to his wife and not obeying the Lord. Adam had authority over his wife; she did not have any over him. A lesson to be learned from this incident is that women pay the price when men do not do their job.

    That is what is happening in our present society. Men have not done their job and women are paying the price. Men are also paying the price much as Adam did for not living up to the responsibility entrusted to him.

    The comments today are illustrating that deep down Western man does not want to accept responsibility for the mess that he created. He still wishes that women could be like him and then everything would get better. They can’t be like him and it won’t get better as long as he thinks that way.

    February 28, 2007 at 6:24 pm

  17. Denis said,

    “I care not to assess blame, I want to learn what works and what should be avoided as pointless.”

    Unfortunately one cannot do the one without doing the other. It’s impossible to fix the effect without looking at the cause honestly. Doesn’t matter what came first the chicken or the egg. Doesn’t matter who initiated this mess (feminists) or who went along with it (the mass of women). The damage started with the feminists and has been propagated via the mass of women. Women in this country are dangerous by what they can do in as much as by what they have done.

    “They do not belong where you are and are not designed to compete with you.”

    Truer words have never been spoken. They don’t even come close.

    February 28, 2007 at 6:33 pm

  18. DKSanctuary said,

    My point is that you can’t allow women to make a mans responsibility harder then, if and when he fails, say she is not accountable for the added pressure. I don’t know about you but I have never wished that a woman would be equal to me. (You lost me on that concept please clarify)

    February 28, 2007 at 6:52 pm

  19. conservativation said,

    I expected nearly the exact reply I got EG. One clarification, in the case of my friend, and MANY like him, there is absolutely nothing wrong with him. He is a solid husband, father, friend etc., but is held hostage to the feminine notion that he needs to therapy himself into an acceptable state. I didnt actually mean to suggest victim status, and my contention that nothing can be done about it was rhetorical. Where we (and others here I think agree) seem to be of slightly different minds is in the mechanics of a solution, the details of which would evolve of course.
    Men can declare themselves leader, patriarch, proclaim himself however we may see as the right societal structure’s head, and then?
    I submit man cannot “lead” women out of the position they are in, rather drag them kicking and screaming, and I’m not sure even then it succeeds.
    Lets extrapolate…we make the majority of men aware of (what they soon realize is natural anyway) the norms and strengths of patriarchal society. We have a veritable army of activists, lets assume. Now what? We “convince” women that this is better? We simply tell them? We lobby for changes? We litetrally revolt and take back the society? Imagine the transition.
    I say this failed experiment will play itself out, that the walls will crumble, and as you say, the power will go out, and the natural order emerge. But that takes the activism out of it, no?
    Regardless if we take 110% of the blame as men, women will need to be confronted with it, held accountable, and changed one way or another in any kind of proactive scenario.

    March 1, 2007 at 9:13 am

  20. Elder George said,

    To Conservativation,

    Your too concerned about what to do with the women and too little concerned with the action men need to take.

    My mission statement indicates the action to take. Sure it will be modified as we go along.

    What choice will the women have when it all comes down, regardless of how it comes down?

    Isaiah 4:1 clearly states what their position will be.

    When there is no more government, no more law, and no more police, and no more rights, women will look to mate with the man who carries the biggest club. I recommend that they start to look now.

    March 1, 2007 at 9:31 am

  21. Elder George said,

    To Conservativation,

    While your looking up Isaiah 4:1 I’ll give you another viewpoint.

    About 15 year ago when I started my mission there was a survey taken that revealed that 80% of American divorced women considered their husbands to be wimps. Another survey taken the same year indicated that women married to men who were perceived as “dominant” stayed married.

    The results of these surveys transmit a clear message to men.

    If your friend and millions like him cannot express their dominance in the home because of the laws that have been created, it is then time for him to express his male dominance by standing up and becoming a part of an organization that will help him to regain his natural authority at home.

    Wimps will not make change. They will stay with the women, that is, if the women accept them.

    March 1, 2007 at 9:51 am

  22. Denis said,

    E.G.-

    you are more sure of yourself then I as to pin-pointing when it all comes down. I follow the trend line and guesstimate it will be in the next 40 years. It could happen tomorrow or 39 years + 364 days but I’m looking out at least 20 years and more like 30-40 before the system comes down. I look at demographics, e.g. another generation without fathers, global politics, the next level of destructive feminsim coming down, global economics, the U.N., and so on. I know you you don’t rely heavily on data but I would be interested in hearing more about your methodology in concluding that the day is approaching soon. If your approach is strictly “holistic” then how do you know you are seeing the real tipping point? Just wondering.

    March 1, 2007 at 9:53 am

  23. Elder George said,

    To Denis,

    Too much to answer here. It would take a whole article to lay it all out. Maybe you’ve motivated me to write one. We’ll see.

    Just briefly, we live in a polluted world, what is polluted cannot long survive.

    March 1, 2007 at 10:23 am

  24. conservativation said,

    Didnt need to look it up, Im familiar with it, and the book of Isiah being my favorite Old Testament book, or at least the one Ive studied the most, followed by Daniel, and excluding the Psalms and Proverbs of course.
    A group that will stand and help us regain our natural authority at home? Agreed 100%, as well as about the dominant men staying married. But again, my point is that the action(s) needed will include proactive things “against” women, meaning there will be a reckoning to which they will not be bystanders (by they, I do not mean to generalize). Anyway, round and round, lets get started, or at least usher the natural along.
    Fortunately Im one of those kooks who is somewhat prepared for life without utilities etc.

    March 1, 2007 at 10:57 am

  25. red pill said,

    You have until the ‘Rans can send a critical mass bout 100 miles into space and detonate it somewhere over the midwest. Just one’ll do for getting the ball rolling for the new stone age. D’ja read the part yet about the living envying the dead?…

    March 1, 2007 at 11:16 am

  26. Elder George said,

    To consrvativation,

    I will take you at your word with let’s get started.

    March 1, 2007 at 12:55 pm

  27. MMX said,

    It’d be pretty funny to calculate how many men are needed to produce an Oprah show. We could have the female audience members do happy jobs like mining for the ore needed to produce the wires, digging for the coal needed to power the station, and so on…

    March 3, 2007 at 8:17 pm

  28. MMX said,

    Also, on a more serious note, you can see the evidence of the invisibles in animal rights. Women love adorable, cuddly animals which never hurt other animals - rabbits, and so on. Because of this, they very rarely try to save endangered carnivores like leopards, lions, and the like. Going even further, it takes a man to respect and admire the dung beetle!

    When men evaluate animals, we do so based on what they do. When women evaluate animals, they do so based on how they make them feel - and are oblivious to what these animals do.

    March 5, 2007 at 4:02 am

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Elder George
A Little More About the Unseen

The two part series entitled, Why Women perated Businesses Fail, indicated that the unseen activities of men provide the environment and means in which the seen activities of women take place. Since that series received extensive readership, I decided to provide additional illustrations in this article of the relationship of the unseen and the seen in our daily lives.

 
In the recreational activity of ballroom dancing the man leads and the woman follows; however, to the casual observer and to women in particular, it appears that that the woman partner is doing most of the work for she is spinning, jumping, twisting, and turning. Yet after a performance it is the man who is panting. The reason for this is that the energy to spin, jump, twist, and turn came from him. A man dances with his back and shoulders, and they are used to guide and move his female partner.

 
Ginger Rogers once said, “I did everything that Fred Astaire did only in heels and backwards.” Spoken like a true woman. What she did not “see” is that Fred Astaire provided the energy and direction for her movements, which is the relation ship of the Sun to the planets. The Sun provides direction to the planets through the unseen force of gravity, and unseen energy to them. In all of life the masculine principle provides the environment and means in which the feminine principle functions.

 
An African-American friend called me one day about six years ago after watching the Oprah show and sounded livid as he explained that she announced to her audience that women could do anything that men could do. He said, “She transmitted her message on television that men had invented, in front of cameras that men had invented, under lights that men had invented, in front of a microphone that men had invented, and she actually believes she’s doing what men can do.” He was right on both counts; Oprah believed she could do what men could do; and men provided the means and the environment necessary for her to function. Oprah could only relate to what she could “see,” she had no understanding of what she could not see.

 
We see the physical world but we live in the unseen world. When we buy a tract of land and build a house upon it and then move in, where do we live? In the floor? Ceiling? Walls? None of those places. Instead we live in the space bounded by the walls, floor, and ceiling. We live in the same space that existed before we built the house. We live in space; that is all that we ever can live in. Walt Whitman said in his Song of the Open Road, “I believe all great deeds were conceived in the open air.” The open air is the arena of men, of space, of the unseen.

 
Our understanding on the seen and unseen also affects our theology. Dr. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, in a newsletter last year emphasized the importance of the historical Jesus versus the metaphysical Jesus. He made known to all his Western thinking, his focus on the seen and his ignorance of the unseen. Yet Dr. Dobson laments that American Christians have the same rate of divorce as people who have no religious affiliation whatsoever. Right wing Christians lament that the ten states comprising the Bible Belt have a divorce rate 50% higher than the national average. None of the religious leaders address manhood. Dr. Dobson addresses fatherhood as though it were a job classification like electrician, accountant, or jet pilot. Competent fatherhood comes from the unseen qualities of developed manhood. Evolved men make steadfast husbands and competent fathers. The unseen affects the seen-always.

 
One of my readers said that he felt my teachings were holistic. He’s right; they are. The American Medical Association considers me to be an anomaly (some of the readers of MND consider me to be abnormal as well). According to the AMA the average person over 65 takes six to eight prescription medicines daily. I am well over that age and don’t take any medications, prescription or non-prescription. I don’t take nutritional supplements either. When I can afford it I go to holistic practitioners who deal with the thoughts of their patients, either present or from childhood or earlier. Is that not the foundation of Christian healing? Did Jesus not say, “Which is easier to say, arise and walk or thy sins are forgiven?” He said of the man born blind, “Who sinned this man or his father?” We tend to use the term sin too negatively. The physical body manifests our unseen thoughts.

As we get away from material limitations our understanding and spirituality develop. Conversely, as we become more material we ten to live virtual lives instead of actual lives, a topic I will soon address.

 
This article touched upon various forms of our daily activity and hopefully illustrated how the unseen affects the seen. Before concluding I ask that all men reflect upon your relations with one another. The bond that exists between us is one of understanding, not information. It is not explainable. A firm handshake and a meeting of the eyes is all that is necessary to convey that sense of understanding and mutual trust. You are guardians of that which is seen because of your connection to that which is unseen.

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