Asymptote:
When his income minus formulaic child support and spousal support equals a positive number, predictive mathematics show a propensity for divorce that asymptotically approaches 100%.
Close….I would say the actual formula is when the cumulative amount of child support, alimony and 1/2 of marital assets are Greater than or equal to the amount of income the woman feels is necessary to support her life style then the likelihood of divorce is 100%
5:1 sounds nice and simple. But accumulation isn’t factored into the formula, nor the effects of that accumulation on an individual or a mass level. But let us extrapolate.
A woman makes a dozen snide, negative ramarks a day, to and about her husband. She needs to make 60 positive ones a day to just break even. 61 to make a tint positive impact. The snide remarks come easy, encouraged by her friends, her upbringing, her daily diet of women’s mags and Oprah. The positive remarks need effort.
Day after day, the poor woman has to expend all that effort-for-love just to counter her seemingly natural inclination to demean, criticise, put-down, get the towels folded in her particular, arbitrary way, boost her ego superiority. She mostly doesn’t make it. Poor woman is exhausted with all her efforts to control herself let alone show love to the one man she promised to honour.
And can he take so much love even if she made the effort? (even the researchers say it is he who has to make the effort, not her!).
Well, what else does he have to deal with. 10,000 negative, demeaning messages a day from society around him, on the TV, in the papers, on the internet, in our academe, in our courts, etc etc needing 60,001 positives per day just to help him along a tiny bit. Not a chance of a polythene dog in hell of him hearing that many even if they were being made. Which they aren’t.
What is the chance of him being divorced from his society?
You have just perfectly described something that I keep repeating to women like a broken record - man-bashing harms women, because it alienates men and gives men a negative impression of, and lots of negative experiences with, the entire female sex.
Any woman today does not start out with a clean slate with a man - but as one more example of a constantly and chronically negative group characterized more by their hostility and contempt toward men than by anything else.
Ladies, remember, when you observe a woman mindlessly bashing men, she is your diplomatic representative for your entire sex, and is contributing to the impression that men in general have of you. And, even moreso when it you, yourself, that is doing the bashing.
The example given in the article is terrible. 94 percent failure should hit any marriage where the woman is manipulating the man, telling him what to do, and trying to “influence”, whatever that means on the spectrum from terrorism, neglect, abuse, stalk, leer, and manipulate.
I awok today, literally and figuratively.
Thought was on a preacher on Bible Broadcast Network talking about where we would be without women. A man said “probably in the garden eating strawberries”.
The preacher went off into a tyraid about men not taking responsibility for their actions…
Really, both were right, had Adam not allowed himself to be “influenced” by the Eve who fell to the promise of Materialism.
And we wonder why the Amish reject modern technology for the avoidance of enslavement to technology, materialism, and this putred society?
They gave me a sneak peek of the mathematical model:
SHE GETS INDROTRONATED BY HER FEMINIST SCHOOL TEACHERS + SHE GETS UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS AND REASSURANCE FROM HER GIRLFRIENDS + SHE SEEKS EXPERT RELATIONSHIP ADVICE AND IS TOLD THE ONLY PATHWAY TO LOVE IS THROUGH NARCISSISISM BY A PSYCHOLOGIST + SHE CALMS HER FEARS ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO FINANCIALLY MAKE IT ON HER OWN TALKING TO A LAWYER = SHE BECOMES A VICTIM OF DIVORCE AND BLAMES THE MAN, GAINS HER FREEDOM FROM THE MAN BUT NEVER QUITE FROM HIS MONEY.
Men, just like women, like people who say nice thing to and about them more than they like people who tear them down. In fact, they tend to develop a strong dislike for people who tear them down and either respond in kind, or start avoiding them.
conservativation said,
Asymptote:
When his income minus formulaic child support and spousal support equals a positive number, predictive mathematics show a propensity for divorce that asymptotically approaches 100%.
February 28, 2007 at 9:46 am
Virtue said,
Close….I would say the actual formula is when the cumulative amount of child support, alimony and 1/2 of marital assets are Greater than or equal to the amount of income the woman feels is necessary to support her life style then the likelihood of divorce is 100%
February 28, 2007 at 3:38 pm
amfortas said,
5:1 sounds nice and simple. But accumulation isn’t factored into the formula, nor the effects of that accumulation on an individual or a mass level. But let us extrapolate.
A woman makes a dozen snide, negative ramarks a day, to and about her husband. She needs to make 60 positive ones a day to just break even. 61 to make a tint positive impact. The snide remarks come easy, encouraged by her friends, her upbringing, her daily diet of women’s mags and Oprah. The positive remarks need effort.
Day after day, the poor woman has to expend all that effort-for-love just to counter her seemingly natural inclination to demean, criticise, put-down, get the towels folded in her particular, arbitrary way, boost her ego superiority. She mostly doesn’t make it. Poor woman is exhausted with all her efforts to control herself let alone show love to the one man she promised to honour.
And can he take so much love even if she made the effort? (even the researchers say it is he who has to make the effort, not her!).
Well, what else does he have to deal with. 10,000 negative, demeaning messages a day from society around him, on the TV, in the papers, on the internet, in our academe, in our courts, etc etc needing 60,001 positives per day just to help him along a tiny bit. Not a chance of a polythene dog in hell of him hearing that many even if they were being made. Which they aren’t.
What is the chance of him being divorced from his society?
February 28, 2007 at 9:47 pm
zed said,
amfortas,
You have just perfectly described something that I keep repeating to women like a broken record - man-bashing harms women, because it alienates men and gives men a negative impression of, and lots of negative experiences with, the entire female sex.
Any woman today does not start out with a clean slate with a man - but as one more example of a constantly and chronically negative group characterized more by their hostility and contempt toward men than by anything else.
Ladies, remember, when you observe a woman mindlessly bashing men, she is your diplomatic representative for your entire sex, and is contributing to the impression that men in general have of you. And, even moreso when it you, yourself, that is doing the bashing.
March 1, 2007 at 8:03 am
thurston861 said,
The example given in the article is terrible. 94 percent failure should hit any marriage where the woman is manipulating the man, telling him what to do, and trying to “influence”, whatever that means on the spectrum from terrorism, neglect, abuse, stalk, leer, and manipulate.
I awok today, literally and figuratively.
Thought was on a preacher on Bible Broadcast Network talking about where we would be without women. A man said “probably in the garden eating strawberries”.
The preacher went off into a tyraid about men not taking responsibility for their actions…
Really, both were right, had Adam not allowed himself to be “influenced” by the Eve who fell to the promise of Materialism.
And we wonder why the Amish reject modern technology for the avoidance of enslavement to technology, materialism, and this putred society?
We testify of it here continually.
March 1, 2007 at 8:42 am
chas said,
They gave me a sneak peek of the mathematical model:
SHE GETS INDROTRONATED BY HER FEMINIST SCHOOL TEACHERS + SHE GETS UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS AND REASSURANCE FROM HER GIRLFRIENDS + SHE SEEKS EXPERT RELATIONSHIP ADVICE AND IS TOLD THE ONLY PATHWAY TO LOVE IS THROUGH NARCISSISISM BY A PSYCHOLOGIST + SHE CALMS HER FEARS ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO FINANCIALLY MAKE IT ON HER OWN TALKING TO A LAWYER = SHE BECOMES A VICTIM OF DIVORCE AND BLAMES THE MAN, GAINS HER FREEDOM FROM THE MAN BUT NEVER QUITE FROM HIS MONEY.
Try it it works every time.
March 1, 2007 at 8:46 am
zed said,
Here’s a non-mathematical model -
Men, just like women, like people who say nice thing to and about them more than they like people who tear them down. In fact, they tend to develop a strong dislike for people who tear them down and either respond in kind, or start avoiding them.
Wow, where’s my research grant money?
March 1, 2007 at 9:06 am
thurston861 said,
So many years they wanted to know our thoughts and feelings, now they want us to shut up.
You are all wrong!
There is a serious problem here and it has to be addressed.
Men are not people. They are property.
Property does not have feelings.
In fact was it not the state of Michigan now penalizing men for having feelings and an opinion is a crime if they choose to move out or leave?
A successful marriage will occur when men are servile and have no feelings. In the feminists mind.
March 1, 2007 at 2:04 pm
MartianBachelor said,
> The key turned out to be quantifying the
> ratio of positive to negative interactions
> during the talk. The magic ratio is 5 to 1.
This is news? Warren Farrell said exactly this almost twenty years ago, in “Why Men Are the Way They Are” - though his ratio may have been 4:1.
March 1, 2007 at 4:23 pm