Isn’t that nice. The Feminists now want to make nice after four decades of horrific social deconstruction and passage of cruel and dehumanizing family law. Of course, as always with women, there is the obvious and completely self-centered ulterior motive: “…many women are being oriented towards raising their children exclusively, which makes the professional and social development of these women very difficult.”

This is nothing more than a ploy to absolve women of even more accountability and responsibility and is only going to dupe naive idiots.

Imagine ex-wives actually being co-operative with ex-husbands in reagards to shared parenting -HA! You’re talking about WOMEN- you know, the ones that made men’s lives the living Hell in the first place, thus the reason for the divorce.

Hey there. Don’t go raining on my parade. This is an incredible piece of news. FINALLY some feminists are getting it. About damn time!

Don’t you recognize marketing when you see it? Why do you have to get all angry and negative? This is GOOD news.

The feminists have controlled for a long time all the levers of power to force changes that have bought the social wreckage of today and they don’t want to let go. THEY want to also control what kind of “reform” will occur, as well as the “how”, and the “when”. I think us men ought to grab the levers of power away from them. They’ve held them much too long as it is.

Feminists are famous for saying one thing, and doing another.

I remain very skeptical. I give a cynical ad pessimistic “Let’s see how they weasel it” before I am ready to jump on the bandwagon.

Burned too many times with lofty words from the Feminazis. They have used up their “Benefit of the Doubt” cards. Show me.

The first post is exactly right, the reason for their position has nothing to do with children or men, and everything to do with women and their precious career choices. Teri, I rarely if ever take exception to your advocacy and value your points and effort a great deal, but why would you assume they are “marketing”? If that were the case, and I submit rather it is WYSIWYG, how sad that to convince women to do whats morally right they must have a selfish reason.
It begs the question, that if women would share the kids for the free time it gives them, how much do they really want the kids around at all? Many men would gladly take the kids and let her chase her dreams.

“Don’t you recognize marketing when you see it?

Of course, and as in business, that is the only thing women are good at.. creating a false image and no substance. So who cares? The only ones stupid enough to actually buy into women’s B.S. are other women.

Sorry, I see the glass half full until some water slops out.

You guys are so negative… I don’t blame you, considering what I’ve seen women do in the name of feminism.

But think about it. If I’m here demanding feminist leaders stand for equality, why can’t you consider other women are waking up too?

I think there will be a groundswell of feminist women opposing their former leaders.

Although I am disappointed that the issue is being driven by feminists, the same people who have advanced policies that have destroyed families, I’m with Teri and support any iniative which has the goal of shared parenting. I am cynical, but it beats the current “primary parent” feminist propaganda.

I’m willing to put aside my animus for this particular issue if the end result is to the benefit of children.

‘Although I am disappointed that the issue is being driven by feminists, the same people who have advanced policies that have destroyed families, I’m with Teri and support any iniative which has the goal of shared parenting. I am cynical, but it beats the current “primary parent” feminist propaganda.

I’m willing to put aside my animus for this particular issue if the end result is to the benefit of children.”

That sounds like some direct quote from a German in Nazi Germany in regards to Hitler.

I think this is very good news!
I come from Spain and in Valencia there is a great movement pro-shared custody (check the the world meeting in Italy next year, Valencia groups were the first to sign).
This femenist are not the feminist that you know changing faces. In Europe most of the time when you hear the word feminist means equal rights, not the wacko extremist/fundamentalist in the USA, fortunately we don’t have so many as you do here. Nonetheless everything from US gets exported over there as for example wava style femism full of false report.
I can clearly tell that these are the women pro-share parenting that they are tired of wava impoerted feminism, because it really doesn’t make sense: woman complain men don’t take care of children and then when they do, women don’t let them.
You have to look at this in the context of Spain, a very different culture. It has taken me years in the US to realize theat “feminism” means wacko in the US, not so everywhere in the world.

“That sounds like some direct quote from a German in Nazi Germany in regards to Hitler.”

I have the mustache too! I guess if Hitler had promised to free the Jews, I would have supported that decision, even as I opposed him.

“You have to look at this in the context of Spain, a very different culture. It has taken me years in the US to realize theat “feminism” means wacko in the US, not so everywhere in the world.”

Good news indeed! Maybe we could export some of our wackos?

Teri,

Is some want to rain on your parade, let me offer an umbella.

The local paper didn’t run anything against “The Vagina Monologue” – not even to mention that the play advertised that they wanted to stop violence towards women and girls – while ignoring that most child abuse comes from mothers to sons. The female editor, I guess, didn’t think such details had any importance.

I was disappointed by that. To see uour articles, that are usually supportive of men, and to see that some feminists are moving away from 100% destructive views of men, is progress. I didn’t see any progress from the 60’s to 70’s for men. I saw things get worse in the 80’s and 90’s, around 95 I thought about just tuning out… but to see a little change here, a little there, gives hope.

Thanks for sharing ane spreading a little hope.

SD

I agree, this is good news.
Let’s see what happens.

This femenist are not the feminist that you know changing faces. In Europe most of the time when you hear the word feminist means equal rights, not the wacko extremist/fundamentalist in the USA,

Stating “feminism” and “equal rights” in the same sentence makes it an oxymoron.

Is this not the same country where feminists forced through a law to make men servants to women ?

Good news, maybe. Teri is an optimist and I guess we need some optimism. But I remain skeptical.

The ad says ‘co-parenting rescues women from their traditional role of child-raising’. Why does this leave a bad taste in the mouth? The ‘best interests of the children’ seems to be missing. In fact the children are a burden to be ‘rescued’ from. Mothers used want to raise children and wanting to be ‘rescued’ from it has entirely the wrong approach. Any change here?

Are these feminists going to rescue men from their traditional role of working to support the family, even when that family has been ripped from them by female whim and antagonistic, unjust courts? ? I guess that would be going too far. Will they claim that only some men are rapists and some sexual intercourse isn’t really rape after all? Nah.

Many movements, after a disasterous term in power, try to slide out of the consequences of their evil. The Russian Communists tried ‘Peristoika’, and reaped chaos as the people simply threw them off; the Chinese Communists are trying ‘Communism with a human face’ but still have overflowing ‘re-education’ camps and victims’ families still pay for the executioners’ bullets; imagination has to employed to think what the Nazis might have said – ‘Jews can help us make the New Reich -Arbeit Mach Frei”.

Feminism has proven itself to be mendacious when it wasn’t blatently lying. I do not have any reason to think that a group that calls itself Feminist, has anything to offer for the benefit of humanity. Except more lies.

Fool me once, shame on you – 60s-70s
Fool me twice, shame on me – 80s-90s
Fool me 3 times, god I must be a complete idiot – 2000+

I cannot believe that Stoddard is trying to give feminisms some degree of credibility.

What a total bunch of liars feminist are and here we have the “liberal” “oh I am so much for men’s rights” female promoting her misandry here.

You have lost the plot whenever anyone promotes those lying arsewipes.

You’ve lost it.

Go away..

Having a bad day Christian?

I decide each issue independently. I can agree with either side if they’re promoting equality. I’m an egalitarian. I liberally support gays and lesbians and I conservatively support fathers and family.

America’s feminists should be ashamed. They knowingly promote lies degrading men and harming children. They should take note of the intelligence and initiative taken by the untarnished feminists in Spain.

ChristianJ has the misfortune to be marooned on an Island I know intimately, where femonazis rule. Almost every day is a bad day.

I would agree too, Teri, with any side promoting equality. But time and the test has proven over and over that liars try to wriggle out of consequences and have no resistance to telling further lies to cover their tracks. Promoting has to be tied to sincerity and honesty. We belived the feminists before when they said they wanted equality. This move by Spanish feminists is straight out of a ‘Desperate Housewives’ script. Let them prove otherwise before rushing to embrace them.

Wow, now the Spaniards have caught on to the truth. I have seen similar trends in Italy, too. The Italians are famous for the strength of their ‘Families’.

People in these nations, who love freedom, obviously know that every child has a natural right to be raised by both of their own parents. Both Moms and Dads; Grandparents, Aunts and Uncles, will soon mature enough to recognize this self-evident truth.

Teri, this is great news. It’s a really good day.

Richard Eichinger
Eaton, OH

“I decide each issue independently. I can agree with either side if they’re promoting equality.”

Except that perfect equality is impossible to attain. However when “promoting” equality, the rules are always set up to move in that direction by whatever definition the feminists decide (today) is the meaning of “equality” (without ever getting to the end zone because as I said it is impossible). And who always ends up paying the price for “promoting” equality? Answer: the men. As ONE example:

Moronic Statement Alert

“Equality of opportunity is easy to attain.”

Try saying that to young black men living in ghettos and also see how ‘equal’ are their ‘opportunities’ when compared to those living in rich neighbourhoods and who have been educated in the most expensive of schools.

Try saying that to short dumpy women who wish to become ballet dancers.

Try saying that to the boys whose education is being biased in favor of the girls.

We are 40 years into “promoting” equality for women and with many feminists we are not even close. The rules are always changing based on new statistics that are generated to show more disadvantage to women so that more disadvantage can be heaped on men. IT IS NEVER-ENDING. And average women who disagree have been silent for 40 years. There are too many women everywhere benfitting from the status quo to call for a change-UNLESS they pay a bigger price in some other way, e.g., not being able to find a man stupid enough to marry them. Making generalizations about women bothers some people. Even when it is true. Good! It is enraging to be unfairly treated isn’t it? There is a lesson to be learned there.

My point is that the search for ‘equality’ is never-ending, and that in the process of searching for this impossible goal, the stirring up of male hatred is a major consequence – and, indeed, in the case of feminists, it is a purposeful aim.

And seasoned men’s activists will know that whatever statistical differences are found between men and women, the feminists will always manage to stir up hatred towards men on the basis of them.

As ONE example, Affirmative Action will never end until America has an equal number of accountants, engineers, doctors, bricklayers, and an equal distribution of managers, CFOs, CEOs, directors,…etc. between men and women. Until that point, the rules of “promoting equality” will benefit women and hurt men.

Now I ask the clear thinking people here: If you are a member of the group that most benefits by the rules “promoting equality” and you are in a position to “reform” a system that the other group is objecting about-well just how far will the privileged group go to look out for the equality of the side that has always been on the losing team? My guess is that they will always look for ways where they keep their advantages.

As a man who actually loves women … well only one; I hear some misplaced anger. It’s your government that has ruled tyranically over you, not the women. Don’t fear women … fear your government … that 800 pound gorilla.

I just came across a great quote:

FAMILY
“When it comes to figuring out what’s gone wrong with our culture, we can usually rely on the American Psychological Association (APA) to catch on last. Thus, it came to pass a few days ago that the APA released its findings that American girls are sexualized. And that’s bad. If you missed the headlines, it may be because of stiff competition from the breaking news that Anna Nicole is still dead and Britney is still disturbed… It can’t be coincidence that girls’ self-objectification—looking for male attention in all the wrong ways—has risen as father presence has declined. At last tally, 30 percent of fathers weren’t sleeping in the same house as their biological children. The APA is calling for more education, more research, forums, girls groups and Web zines to tackle girl sexualization. But my instinctual guess is that getting fathers back into their daughters’ lives and back on the job would do more than all the forums and task forces combined. Ultimately, it’s a daddy thing.” —Kathleen Parker

“As a man who actually loves women … well only one; I hear some misplaced anger. It’s your government that has ruled tyranically over you, not the women. Don’t fear women … fear your government … that 800 pound gorilla.’

Believe it or not I too love women-just not American women. Now that may sound unfair, unreasonable, or whatever. But that is the way it is.

Now you are correct that the problem is the government. But who has their hands on the levers of power? The feminists. Who benefits? Feminists and often women. Who often supports the feminists? Often the women. Who loses? Always the men. And for the record I don’t live in fear of anyone. I’m one guy who is angry, and this one guy bothers some people.

Too

Damn

Bad

I’ve lived with things that no innocent man should have to. If people have a problem with my tone that is their problem.