Revelations about former Speaker Gingrich’s extra-marital affair while he was pursuing Bill Clinton’s scalp for impeachment are titillating, but only to those seek to fill their hollow skulls with unmitigated pap.
In other words, liberals have not been this excited since Viet Nam fell to the communists!
While it is true that both Gingrich and Slick fell victims to lust and debauchery, it is not true that their transgressions were equally serious.
In the case of President William Jefferson Clinton, it was never about a “private matter between consenting adults,” despite the nonsensical spin fabricated by liberals like Laney Davis and other Clinton apologists.
Rather, Bill Clinton stood accused of perjury, subornation of perjury, and obstruction of justice.
Mr. Clinton’s felony crimes–not his sexual dalliances– lead to his impeachment, disbarment in Arkansas, and revocation of his right to argue before the United States Supreme Court. The later two sanctions were subsequently lifted with the passage of time.
Given his position of power, Clinton was surely guilty of sexual harassment as well, both as president and while Governor of Arkansas.
In fact, if Clinton had been a Republican, liberals in Congress, egged on by feminist nut cases, would have pressed for his immediate castration, followed by impeachment and removal from office.
As it was, NOW and other feminist organizations seemed more interested in midnight basketball than the deliberate and premeditated stalking of young females by the most powerful man on earth.
Newt and Slick: Equally reprehensible? Don’t you believe it!
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Dabir Dalton said,
March 10, 2007 at 3:02 pm
Squiggy said,
March 10, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Dabir Dalton said,
March 11, 2007 at 12:05 am
FamilyLawyer said,
March 11, 2007 at 1:46 am
Dabir Dalton said,
March 11, 2007 at 3:20 am
Squiggy said,
Confessing your sin is only ONE part of the process. Actually being remorseful is more important, and stopping the action(s) is most important of all. Not doing any one of these three means you’re doing NONE of them.
If you can’t do them all, you don’t receive forgiveness. Unless, of course, you are a liberal Democrat. Then you don’t need to do ANY of them, just go to “rehab”, and you’ll not only receive full absolution, you’ll be held up as a role model.
March 11, 2007 at 8:42 am
Will Malven said,
So you are the great decider? This person is a “true Christian” and that one isn’t. Wow, I thought only God could do that, but now we have Dabir Dalton the great prophet and law-giver.
Wow, a new Messiah. Hey Dabir it is up to each individual to decide whether or not to accept Newt’s admission and forgive him, not you. Like all self-righteous jerks, you expect perfection from all but yourself.
“Let him without sin, cast the first stone.”
March 11, 2007 at 8:46 am
Will Malven said,
Beat me to it. Well like they say, great minds think alike…
March 11, 2007 at 8:47 am
Dabir Dalton said,
Will and Squiggy: The tone of your writting, the way that you treat those who disagree with you along with the corrupt leaders of the GOP that you support…Clearly show that instead of being the Christians that you claim to be clothed with Christ’s robe of righteous…You have chosen to wear the filthy garments of the very sins you cherrish, cling too and chose to ignore in Newt and others of your political persuasion…
Just like the priests in Christ day and the romantic catholic church in the middle and extremely dark ages you have deluded and decieved yourselfs into thinking that you serve God…Yet in reality do the bidding of your unregenerate hearts…As the good book says ya have the form of godliness but deny the power thereof and as a result will in the end perish in the flames of hell…
March 11, 2007 at 11:11 am
S Baker said,
What could they say about Newt’s past when Hilliary has ol’ bubba and so many deaths in her closet and FBI files and Vince Foster?
Oh and I wonder if Helen Thomas will tell us why she thinks Vince Foster was murdered, and why she thinks it happend “right there in the white house” (her exact words~! )
March 11, 2007 at 12:33 pm
red pill said,
I care not about what the bible says when it comes to politics. The bible is not a book intended to make a worldly difference in daily financial matters of earthly survival.
NO it is not!.
The proper perspective in this instance should be the equal application of judgment upon both men for their words, deeds, capacity to address the truth and liklyhood to lead others responsibly and as selflessly as possible. You allegation of human frailty is a pointles road, all humans being frail. Likely most every person seeking the type of power available in political office has practiced assumption of sexual power along the way as verification that they are entitled to manipulate the masses professionally. Gingrich admited what had to be there in the shadows as a liability, Clintons one or two have not admitted even the obvious, providing diversions bearded by others. The wives had different agendas and have made different responses. for their purposes.
The Bible is not a book applicable to human politics. One can be a just man on earth and not be directly beholden to the New Testament. meticulously followed the NT cannot be followed while maintianing middle class lives. It is in essence a purely socialist doctrine in its major points.
Yes, it is!
There are no men or women left alive if sin was equal to earthly death. Heavenly redemption is not translatable to worldly affairs, and each man needs be judged by his own charactor and fidelity to the truth and his kind as worldly perfection yet eludes us all…
March 11, 2007 at 2:50 pm
red pill said,
March 11, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Roger Knight said,
But at the same time we say “No excuse for domestic violence.”
Which precisely what Clara Harris did.
And we call Bill Clinton “Mr. President”, Rudy Giuliani “America’s mayor”, and Newt Gingrich “Mr. Speaker”.
Jesus’ suggestion, “Go and sin no more” is apparently the advice only David Harris can take, as the wages of his sin were indeed death. His wife lives on as a guest of the taxpayers.
Too bad she cannot be made to share a cell with Scott Peterson!
March 11, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Dabir Dalton said,
1) Newt failed to fully implement the contract with america and was forced to resign from office in disgrace…That makes him a failed leader both politically and morally…
2) As long as the conservatives want to make an issue of character and point the finger at Liberals be prepared to be held to the exact same standards…It was after a Con. Repub. who gave us no fault divorce and not the liberals and the Conservatives spend just as much time demonizing and oppressing the male gender with their policies as the Liberals…
3) Liberals want to turn american into a socialist state while Conservatives want to turn america into a theoracy in the same way that the roman catholic church ruled over europe after the fall of pagan rome…
4) Tyranny is Tyranny no matter how one slices and dices it or calls it and that is the goal of both the Liberals and Conservatives…I want neither and just want to be left alone to live my life in peace but know that neither lib’s or con’s will allow that…Therefore I will continue to fight both until something better comes along…
March 11, 2007 at 5:13 pm
red pill said,
I hope you find your perfect world, I suspect it will be a while before it presents itself for your inspection. The hearts and minds of men were always corrupt, being of this earth, of llesh made to seek comfort and avoid work and painful commitment.
May I recommend soduku while you wait for your political messiah?
Absolutists will always find fault and use that as an excuse to sit, feigning rage and superiority and succeed at nothing whatsoever, save the knowledge of their own privilige.
Normally this is a liberals game, finding fault in others and excuses for themselves…
March 11, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Dabir Dalton said,
Now consider this:
Strange Bedfellows
MRA’s (Men’s Rights Activitists) often complain and rightly so about the male gender being denied their due process rights in the family court system…However what I find strange as to be almost beyond belief is that these very same men whole heartedly and quite willingly consent to support the Conservative Republican party…The very group that intentionalyly and deliberately with malice and forethought seeks to do away with the due process rights of an individual who has been accused (quite often falsely so) of a crime…
Now listen up real good boys: If ya want the men’s rights movement to be taken seriously then stop suporting those whose only motavation is to gain your vote while planning to intentionally stab ya in the back after they have used you like a two bit whore…
March 11, 2007 at 6:02 pm
red pill said,
Drop me a line when the Perfect One steps to the fore. Do you think someone will issue someone like that? Do you think the almighty plans to provide political perfection from heaven?..
March 11, 2007 at 9:18 pm
Squiggy said,
You libidiots have been using this exact straw man for six years now - telling us how all our rights are being taken away right in front of our eyes. But the problem is - we don’t know anyone who’s rights have been denied, and neither do you. Sorry about the Guys from Gitmo, but war sucks, and being a terrorist who got caught must really suck. If any of them are innocent, well, as I said, war sucks. Hopefully the war won’t last forever.
As for all the inconveniences at airports (which is the closest thing we have to having something taken away from us), well you don’t have a constitutional right to fly, much less a right to carry combustibles on a plane (I looked all over the constitution - hard. It’s not there.) Deal with it or walk, I don’t care.
March 12, 2007 at 4:39 am
red pill said,
Here is where obvious trends are ignored, where the emperors new clothes are tirelessly debated, where the guaranteed finding of fault and flaws of those that don’t provide perfection gives each contributor an out and a hall pass from the school of reality. Regardless, Marxist true believer or BoR purist, fantasy documents about absolute priviliges are an unachievable guideline and are not meant to be taken at face value. Could it be that some compromise and some value judgments will have to be made before distributing wonderful ‘unalienable rights’ to all? Sadly there is a world of reality where wise, responsible men take action and follow their achievable beliefs without compromise, but not here, and not now, for we wait for the day and time where perfection will be pulled from a box or squeezed from a tube without effort…
March 12, 2007 at 7:14 am
RestoringGuy said,
If you believe your car is worth $10,000, you heavily advertise it, and it’s on the market for five years, with the only offers of $2,000 popping up, then you have been proven wrong. Aside from violent conflicts, politics is exactly like economics. The feminists have simply made their brand of awful perfume less stinky and more politically “affordable” than most conservatives have. So they get a break on their flavor of violence. It is counterproductive to tell people who want a better deal that their only other choice sucks too.
There is a concern that perfection will never arrive, just as you reget never getting $10,000 from your used car. But it is clearly an obvious thing that one cannot punch a buyer in the face, and then complain about the economic detriment of you having been punched in the face in the past. Instead, as as consumer of political philoposphy, we demand either a lower price, or a better product. A gun pointed at you with a “take it or leave it” attitude poisons this efficient process, and liberals and conservatives are both doing the same in this regard.
When one says “I believe X, which sucks, but you have to live with it” clearly they are not prescribing that same behavior for others to follow. Unless you are talking about private property, or there is an objective standard, anybody can say the same to the speaker in return with no different of an absolute moral stance.
This is basic stuff that does not require perfection or any “higher reality” to avoid the bad kind of behavior. It only requires unlearning the lies of the politicians, and therefore aquiring an understanding of logic and economics.
March 12, 2007 at 11:01 am
red pill said,
You’re getting as bad as Stephoney. Blather and if if if doesnt get it, doesnt stop reality and doesnt get you off the hook. Life is winners or losers, not if if if. Like most including Stephoney, the mouth music and word-o-rrhea tries to avoid the obvious actions that one must personally take, not expect to be provided for. The constant effort of Stephoney et al is to always put someone ELSE on the hook for the cash, the work and the responsibility while he oversees things from an easy chair which he claims is uncomfortable enough to just to sit in. That is the hallmark of his kind, the opposite of conservative, which does not happen to be the same as Republican or Libertarian which are parties, not philosophies.
Wanna-be BoR dudes similarly expect that rights will be dropped off at the corner with the papers while they sit. Meanwhile they sit and do nothing because they want perfection achieved out of the gate. There is no reality testing in this, there are no consumer-grade rights that one can expect at discount. The peoples maintainance has lapsed, the officers of the court have prevailed in redefining words to their will. There is will only for entertainment, none for improvement. Producing nothing, we worry about protection of an insect, yet leave open the door to our own real destruction. Tell me which liberties have been wrested from power by petition and compromise, which battles have been won by leasing the weapons and services of the enemy? Can’t you see past your consumeroid training to be effective anymore? It is not the blather and skill with words about morals and belief, it is about making things work in real life, and to do that is no accident. That’s what the libs want, to believe hard enough to make flesh from fantasy without their own input of resources or effort. Be careful you’re not cut from the opposite end of the same loaf…
March 12, 2007 at 11:40 am
red pill said,
March 12, 2007 at 1:00 pm