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Fatherhood Activists to Protest Pizza Box/Deadbeat Dad Campaign

2007-03-30
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Fatherhood activists will be protesting against the highly-publicized Pizza Box/’Deadbeat Dad’ campaign today in Butler County, Ohio. Fathers 4 Justice USA, the group leading the campaign, explains:

“Butler County Ohio’s Child Support Enforcement Agency CSEA under the direction of Cynthia Brown has convinced 3 local pizzerias to print ‘Deadbeat Dad’ wanted posters on their pizza boxes. One has received national media attention, Karen’s Pizzeria in Hamilton Ohio. Unfortunately this action is spreading the myths about parents who allegedly are in arrears on child support and portraying them as criminals. Even more devastating is that the children of these fathers risk severe public humiliation when they and their friends see their father on these posters.”

F4J USA will be protesting at the CSEA and also at Karen’s Pizzeria, which has been distributing the pizza boxes with the wanted posters of the “deadbeat dads” on them. For more information, go to F4J USA’s website here.

To learn more about this issue, see CBS’ News Pizza Boxes Carry Deadbeat Mug Shots (3/26/07). Also, see my debate with Cynthia Brown, the architect of the pizza box/deadbeat dad campaign, on FOX News’ nationally-syndicated Morning Show with Mike and Juliet by clicking here. Stephen Baskerville, president of the American Coalition for Fathers and Children, will be discussing this issue on CNN on Sunday morning at 9 AM EST.

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  • http://www.divorceprofessionals.com lawmoe

    A good debate with Ms. Cynthia Brown was held on WCCO radio with Minnesota Father’s rights Lawyer Maury D. Beaulier debating the issue
    It can befound online at http://www.nvo.com/beaulier/deadbeatfathersonpizzaboxes

    The audio of the radio interview is located at http://www.hjlawfirm.com/newsroom/podcasts/Pizza%20Box.mp3

  • Thomas

    Caligirl,

    I applaud all of the responses above to your post. They all reek of logic and rationality with only a few emotional outbursts. It is clear and intuitive that the child support laws, policies, guidelines and societal predispositions are all totally misguided and not about the support of a child but instead about a transfer of wealth and power from one parent to another. Stripping a father (or mother) of his rights to be a parent and then extorting money well beyond what is required is criminal. This is not just about the sound bite “Be a man, support your children.” This is about the details of this process and you need to take a good hard look at what is involved before you appreciate just how unjust this whole process is.

    Putting aside all of this, consider the criminalization of Parents who do not or can not pay child support (or are victims of a mistake by the office of child support) and place it in juxtaposition with the approaches used for true crimes. Perpetrators of true crimes in this country have a myriad of programs to help them deal with their issues and help them understand their responsibilities and help them reform. So for one minute let’s assume some “deadbeat” parents are in fact attempting to avoid their parental financial responsibility. Should the government criminalize, embarrass, destroy these people further (risking the parents relationship with their child or the child’s emotional well being with his or her peers), or should the government offer programs to help these parents come to terms with their responsibilities. What happens when a Mom falls prey to drugs, prostitution, etc? There are many programs to help her overcome these obstacles and she is given the benefit of the doubt all along the way. We don’t go on a national campaign (pizza boxes, newspaper ads, etc.) of destroying her very fiber in her children’s eyes or society’s eyes. THERE ARE NO PROGRAMS FOR NON-CUSTODIAL PARENTS, there are many for custodial parents. Why?

    Add to this the fact that things would be largely better (not right, but much better) if the guidelines were at least applied as they were intended – but the family court system in almost every state is using them to foster a specific political ideology – moms are good (sugar and spice) and dads are bad and must be punished even if they haven’t done anything wrong… yet. If the courts looked at finances carefully, applied the combined parental cap in all cases except for special cases, as it was intended, then things would clearly be considerably fairer. Still not right – but at least in the right direction. All the concepts of imputed income, standard of living, refused accounting, refusal to consider both parties responsibility to support are all making a mockery out of what we call justice. Transferring all of the required support to the one parent and providing that parent with all of the financial control is not only unjust but isn’t even intuitively sound. Having the non-custodial parent required by law to pay for the fundamentals is arguable but that is not even remotely the case in today’s family courts.

    Bottom line – you need to evaluate all of the details of this mess before throwing around phrases like “Not supporting your child is inexcusable. The I don’t have a job excuse does not work…if you don’t have a job…get one!” which fully reveals your ignorance on the subject. Dad’s looking for family law reform all want to support their children – but they do not want to do so at the threat of ridiculous, unrealistic, politically motivated impositions which remove their fundamental rights as parents.

  • http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com Roger Knight

    Caligirl, you are an unAmerican bitch.

    The 13th Amendment prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude except as punishment for a crime whereof the party has been duly convicted.

    Which an order to pay child support is most certainly not.

    The Antipeonage Act defines involuntary servitude imposed for ANY debt or obligation to be a CRIME.

    Extortion and armed robbery are also crimes, even in cases where the victim legitimately owes the perpetrator the money.

    There are extremely good public policy reasons for prohibiting armed robbery, extortion and peonage. These reasons do not magically disappear merely because the money is designated “child support”, imposed without any requirement that WRONGDOING be proven on the part of the person being deprived of his liberty and property, and that it is the courts and the law enforcement apparatus that is participating in the extortion.

    One of these extremely good public policy reasons is that those being extorted sometimes react badly.

    As for the motivation to actively refuse to pay the extortionists?

    Perhaps it is the SAME motivation that caused the Greeks to refuse King Xerxes’ invitation to join the Persian Empire. The SAME motivation that caused Filipinos, Vietnamese, and Chinese to fight guerrilla warfare to resist joining Japan’s Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. The SAME motivation that caused Massachusettes to tell the British to go stick it in 1775. The SAME motivation that caused slaves to take a hike to the north.

    I would humbly suggest, Caligirl, that the best way to get a man to provide for you and for your children is to marry him, stay married to him, and make him glad that he married you. And when you are able, to go out and earn a paycheck and help carry the load.

    Enlisting the aid of tyrants to extort money you do not earn does not always work out the way you would like.

  • bombbombbombbomb

    “Most of the deadbeats I know personally are men who refuse to pay child support and refuse to.”

    These men are my heros. If all men refused, then this injustice would not exist.

  • DadWith2Girls

    I thought Glenn acquitted himself with grace and eloquence in a scene that was starting to look like a tee-vee feminazi rhetorical mugging of the “father’s rights” guy.

    The pizza box ho’ was quite a piece of work. All glammed up for her mass media debut. One angry bitch. To date she has outted 20 beatdead dads on her pizza fliers, resulting in one homeless guy getting arrested.

    Truly a victory for all women and kids!

    My favorite moment in the clip is when Glenn holds up the pizza box, right in front of the avenging cupcake’s face, and she gets immediately offended because her lovely mug is obscured, so she pushes the box down and strikes a pose.

    The professional tee-vee journalistas are also a treat… look up the term “bubblehead” in the dictionary and you’ll find their photos.

    Good job Glenn!

  • pskurnick

    I know, lets post all the women who have committed paternity fraud on cases of soda.

  • conservativation

    The “men have a responsibility” argument is sickening coming from a woman. It is that very argument, codified into law, that allows a woman to screw a soccer team under a red light in a well lit intersection and then divorce her husband because he doesn’t have 25 multi colored multi national dicks. The judge tosses the man out, and tells the woman that as long as the kids are asleep and the team stays in her bedroom with the door closed she can hold a weekly olympics if she likes, and dammit the husband will pay child support and alimony, because after all that action wife is just to sore to work alot. It boggles the mind the ignorant and naive beliefs held by shallow minded who operate their entire life on simple cliches. Sure its a valid cliche that man should support his child. The problem with cliches is they are CLICHES! There be a whole lot more goin on der sweety behind dem scenes ya know.
    If the husband came across wife screwing the soccer team under thred light and he raised his voice, he would be shackled and imprisoned fopr terroristic threats. If he went straight home and gathered the kids before the team arrived for their nightly “ball game” he’d be imprisoned for kidnapping and abandoning the poor wife dear.
    Income would be impuned and he would exit imprisonment in arrears on the mandated child support, and would be unemployable as an abuser, kidnapper, and deadbeat.
    Caligirl I so wish the world was all frilly lace and soft pillows like the one you live in. I wish cliches were equivalent to truth, and that knowledge was related to wisdom. I wish fairness was more then a word women like to use, and I wish obligation was universal. If you had a man not paying you child support, I guess thats not good. The odds are though (naturally I could be wrong, but try to stay with the statistics here, after all Larry Summers recanted and said you were a mathematical freakin genius) you tossed the man becuase, well, er, well just because after all he was a cad, and men are cads, and he just wasn’t right for you, you were putting more effort into that marriage then him right?. You were raising those kids and he was out working! The horror, and the nerve of him. And your knees were bruised because of the force with which your legs were clamped shut…after all ahe didnt deserve those goods, huh uh, no siree, the greasy haired “artist” living in the warehouse loft though, he made you tingle in the rebound relationship didnt he, and he’s so good with the kids who can blame you for ditching the kids weekends with deadbeat dad for the free form art play boyfriend treats them to right?

    Sure its made up, its extreme and silly, but change the actual facts slightly and its daily happening Caligirl. It is not all about you, I hate to break it to you, you immature and clueless typical daytime drama queen.

  • amfortas

    Caligirl, what happened to the woman’s right to choose to do with her body what SHE wants and its no-one else’s business? If she won’t keep her knickers up, if she won’t allow him a say in whether a child is conceived or not, if she won’t use the many contraceptives that she can to control her fertility, if she won’t let him have a say in whether a child is born or not, if only she can decide to abort, if she clings to a ‘right’ to name any old Tom, Dick or Earl as the father, if she has a child that isn’t the father’s she names and fraudulently makes him pay, then she is responsible and she can carry her own can of worms.

    Or don’t you believe in a woman’s ‘right to choose’?

  • Robert Stevens

    O K I will make a statement. MY kids are mine , I will take care of them. But I have chose to eject the state and it’s little Kidnapping and Extortion Racket from my business. I have now and in the future will have , a contract to provide for my children. I love my boys, But I will not bow to government sponsored extortion.
    I am Sovereign Citizen, the state has little authority or jurisdiction in dealing with me. I do the right thing, well because it is the right thing! Not because some Government Terrorist says I should .
    Like I said, I have a contract. At this point it is an interim contract. Negotiations will have to proceed further to see what will happen.
    But the basics are simple, I am the parent. I do not have to have state permission to do anything. I also respect their( my boys)mothers rights. It is simple in theory, much harder in practice. But it can work. once the women understand that the states involvement is minimized and they do not have the upper hand anymore. They, then become a whole lot easier to deal with. It is also a lot more pleasant, I don’t have an eight hundred pound gorilla( the state) on my back and she gets the help she needs from me. Now any good contract requires a situation to be mutually benefitial.
    There are no winners and no losers. This creates peace and justice, and peace does require justice.
    This creates a situation where everyone is treated with dignity and respect. Gone is the “win” ” lose ” mentality. But the state does have to have it’s involvement minimalized. They are all about money, power and control.that is not what this should be about. It about ” THE RIGHT TO REMAIN A PARENT not a visitor and a wallet. Being treated that way is the very thing that causes the “uncivil war” to go on for years and create wounds that never heal.
    As I( uh WE ) get used to this new and more fair arrangement. Peace will reign, I have my rights and status as a parent restored. Any cause for bitterness is gone As I rebuild my finances and reaquire property, I will do even more. Every day looks better, the women will have to get used to, a more fair and equitable arrangement. And the state will have to find another source of funding. But noone comes outa loser and in time. If this ” new way” to do things becomes common place, well who knows. This God Awful Racket , will one day be, just some pages in a history book.
    P.S. One last little thing, when men start having their right of choice in parenthood enforced and a man can not be forced to be a parent. Then… Then you can talk about deadbeats, because then, they will existe.
    Now all they are, are just beat dead and dead broke.

  • Caligirl

    I believe if they are violators / deadbeat dads then they should be on pizza boxes, on the sides of buses but most of all in jail.

    Glenn, I agree with you to a point on some of believes but I have lived both sides of this coin. Most of the deadbeats I know personally are men who refuse to pay child support and refuse to.

    Additionally…if the fathers without the children make so little money, how much money does the mother with the child and having to take care of child care just work…make? Not supporting your child is inexcusable. The I don’t have a job excuse does not work…if you don’t have a job…get one!

    If we want to argue then we will keep up the debate but that is only bashing of women…if you want to move forward then you will move forward in honesty and do your part as fathers. There are many men in this country who are not large wage earners but they take care of their families. Just because you leave the household does not mean you no longer have a financial responsibility.

    It is also ironic, how so much money is recovered after these men find themselves in prison. Again highlighting their selfishness.

    I would love to see the day when one of these men’s groups turns to one of these guys that are knowingly and willfully not paying child support and make a statement about them.

  • mdkn

    will someone please psot the phone numbers of these pizza holes. I would like to place an order for delivery.

  • http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com Roger Knight

    Go get ‘em!
    I would love to come, but it is a LONG bus ride from Seattle!







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