
Saturday, March 31, 2007
Fathers’ group protests images on pizza boxes
By Lauren Pack
Hamilton JournalNews
HAMILTON - A fathers’ rights group picketed a restaurant that is displaying pictures on its pizza boxes of men who are seriously in arrears on paying their child support.
Members of Fathers-4-Justice, a nonprofit volunteer group fighting for “truth, justice and equality in family law,” stood outside Karen’s Pizzeria on Eaton Avenue for hours dressed in camouflage pants and bright purple T-shirts, waving posters and banners stating “Kids need both parents. Families now. Reform now.”
The business began placing posters from the Butler County Child Support Enforcement Agency depicting “deadbeat dads” on its delivery boxes in August. The agency said the effort has let to the arrest of at least one man who owed $21,200 in child support.
Karen Willis, owner of the business, said she doesn’t plan to discontinue the promotion.
“I think the children need the support,” she said.
John Fowler, a member of Fathers-4-Justice, said that before the protest began, he asked Willis to remove the posters featuring the delinquent dads from her restaurant’s boxes.
She declined and about a half dozen people started waving signs about 11 a.m. and urging passersby, with the assistance of a bull horn, to eat elsewhere.
“I said no, absolutely not,” Willis said, when asked what she told the protesters who urged the removal of the posters. “They don’t scare me.”
Read the full article here. For background on the controversy, click here.
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Roger Knight said,
Okay, then we must treat Karen’s pizza like it is tainted with rat poison.
If you eat her pizza, then every time you display the flag, stand at attention for the national anthem, and pledge allegiance to the flag, you are committing an act of hypocrisy.
Either you are an American who believes in the idea of what the United States is, and the freedom for which she stands,
or you eat Karen’s pizza.
But you cannot do both.
March 31, 2007 at 11:19 am
David R. Usher said,
The core issue being worked on here, which our feminist pizza parlor owner must acknowledge and stop her behavior is covered in True Equality Network’s recent exclusive reports. The vast majority of so-called deadbeats are actually poor men who are being ordered to pay far more support than they actually earn. Anc, this Pizza Parlor owner is now on the federal dole, receiving advertising dollars courtesy of the CSPIA. All radical feminists who are on the dole are wrong, anti-male, radicals. No man should ever buy a pizza from this man-hater again.
See:
How the Failure of Welfare Reform Created Our Lawless Courts (Part One)
http://www.ifeminists.net/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.106
How the Failure of Welfare Reform Created Our Lawless Courts (Part Two)
http://www.ifeminists.net/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.123
March 31, 2007 at 11:51 am
Luek said,
The state should only be concerned that the bare minimum of support for a child or children in divorce is being met. Anything else is for the parents who actually produced the children in the first place to work out between themselves. Anything else is rad-fem driven social Marxism.
March 31, 2007 at 4:07 pm
steven deluca said,
They should add a note to their photos “Caution, continually targeting men can be hazardous to your health” with a side bar stating that the women who are adjudicated to pay child support have a worse record than men do.
March 31, 2007 at 4:59 pm
amfortas said,
Take her photo and with a suitable caption, like “Father-hating Femonazi wants YOUR money as well as the Government’s”, put it on a sign and distribute it around the neighbourhood. Folow the pizza delivery person and put them in customer’s letter boxes.
March 31, 2007 at 5:56 pm
RestoringGuy said,
Fascinating. I cannot imagine how she expects to stay in business. She is so blatantly condoning violence against children. Good luck keeping those customers who are slowly finding out which pizza parlor to cross of their list.
March 31, 2007 at 7:08 pm
BIGbrotherbites said,
Plaster a picture of her with the business name as the title with her name and man hater in big letters on the picture.
Everytime someone does a search for pizza or that name it will come up.
March 31, 2007 at 7:48 pm
BIGbrotherbites said,
Or with Child abuser on it would be better all over the internet
March 31, 2007 at 7:50 pm
masterwindu said,
I think the following point must be made and remade. This is nothing less than the persecution of the poor. Of course I understand the need of parents to pay for their child, however, one has to ask why the large majority are poor men? (from glen’s numbers “less than four percent of the national child support debt is owed by those earning $40,000 or more a year”). How can people miss the fact that this problem is affecting one of the poorest segment of the society? Why are rich people are represented in such low numbers? This type of large disparity in itself should point to a big problem to which the solution should not be persecuting, vilifying, humiliating and further victimizing the poor, the solution should be humane and help these low income men and family. Again, the numbers indicate that by in large this is a problem of the poor not the rich. Its easy to sit here as middle class and look in disgust at these men, for a lesson about how easy it is to do, one just need to look at the applause of the audience from the Morning Show with Mike and Juliet when Glen Sacks debated the issues. This mostly white middle class audience found it really easy to show contempt for the poor, and don’t even ask themselves the question why its poor men on the pizza box and not the husband of well dressed Executive Director of the Butler County (Ohio) Child Enforcement Agency, Cynthia Brown. Another example of middle class contempt can be seen by watching the pizzeria owner who looks very proud to help in the persecution of the poor. At this point the argument that not all of them are poor cannot because a few are not cannot be accepted, the disparity is too big. If someone want to use that type of argument, it can easily be turned against them by saying that women do not make less money than men because we all know cases where some women make more than men for the same job, Katie Couric comes to mind, I myself had female colleagues that made more then me for the same job even if they had less experience then me because they where hired later than me at a time where programmer were harder to find (supply and demand). Truly, someone need to investigate why we so easily allow the persecution of the poor, being poor should not be a crime. Persecuting, vilifying, humiliating and victimizing the poor will not help their children.
March 31, 2007 at 8:52 pm
conservativation said,
Turning this into a class envy issue, complete with requisite “help” (means a government initiative or program no doubt) is also the wrong attack. Many pathologies that are generational, substance abuse, behavioral issues, inability to hold jobs and relationships, stem from DIVORCE and subsequent fatherlessness, and the same cycle we see here. Eliminate no fault divorce, make women truly equal in the divorce process, make them sacrifice if they are the one wishing to file, and within a generation the entire problem will be much smaller. But treating the symptoms like “helping the poor” has never worked and never will.
April 1, 2007 at 8:41 am
DadWith2Girls said,
I might have had something to contribute to this discussion.
Unfortunately, all my posts get deleted by the mods.
Ah well.
Fascism is as fascism does.
Now please welcome the pop-up ads…..
April 1, 2007 at 10:55 am
scottkirk said,
master windu.. good point….white middle class feminists will step on anyone for their personal gain.. poor, blacks,ect. are all just grist for the victim mill…. “THE FEMINIST JUGGERNAUT”
April 1, 2007 at 11:25 am
scottkirk said,
its interesting how these white middle class females can point to all the suffering in the world..and then say “OH JUST MAKE THE CHECK OUT TO US”
April 1, 2007 at 11:28 am
Luek said,
I just hope no MRA’s placed a large pizza order for delivery with her cheesy little business and give a fake address. That would be so mean!
The government should only be concerned that the bare minimum in financial support is being met for children of divorce. Anything else should be left up to the parents to work out between themselves. The kids are theirs after all and not the state’s.
April 1, 2007 at 6:40 pm
TheManOnTheStreet said,
I just did a massive search….. If this woman believes that this is such a good thing why isn’t there a picture of her accompanying her story? None. I found over 20 different stories, and only two had a pic and it was of one of her employees. Shoot, even the BBC covered the story!
Whatsamattah lady? You have no problem posting men’s pics but have an issue with your own? Uhuh….
Furthermore, if there are supposedly three such pizza joints doing this, where are the other two? What are their names? Who owns them? Oh wait…. nevermind….
TMOTS
April 2, 2007 at 7:15 am