‘Permissive Gun Law’ Charge Spreads, Why Not ‘Permissive’ Visa Laws? Killer on Student Visa
WITH UPDATE…
What happened at Virginia Tech today is not a “tragedy”– a word you will see much used to describe this incident — it is a crime. Murder in cold blood is no “tragic” accident. But, the criminal action at Virginia Tech had barely finished before news sources began their meme against guns, those “permissive laws” controlling them and the “easy access” to them. All are common phrases used to attack gun rights and this incident is being used as a platform to launch that line of attack everywhere. It’s as if, before the last victim was even cold, every anti-gun advocate in the country hurriedly warmed up their cars to race to their local media source to call for more gun control.
CBS news gives us the claim that it is “…much too easy to get guns in the state of Virginia”. And they assure us this crime happened because “…there’s no gun registration, no mandatory waiting period to purchase weapons. The only major restriction: a limit of one gun purchase per month.” And, the CBS report is echoed all across the news media.
Unsurprisingly, the foreign press immediately jumped on the anti-gun bandwagon, as well. In the UK for instance, The Independent said in one piece, “But it would be vain to hope that even so destructive a crime as this will cool the American ardour for guns.”
Even Chicago’s Mayor Daley was blasted all across local Chicago TV speaking out against guns.
The stories like this are too numerous to chronicle and all woefully the same. (Brent Baker also has more: http://newsbusters.org/node/12075)
Things not considered
But, in the rush to the TV screens to clamor for more gun control, the media talking heads and every writer in the MSM will likely ignore several questions this crime raises.
Now, it has been revealed that the killer is a Chinese national here under the student visa program to study in the USA. So this fact raises a question that I’ll bet you won’t see talked about… why are student visas so easily handed out to foreign students from one of our ostensible enemies, China? Will there be a drumbeat to stop unbalanced foreign killers from entering the USA?
I doubt it.
(Update: The student has been named and he is a South Korean by birth and has been here for a long time as a resident alien. My point, however, remains similar in that Americans often do not have the same opportunities at education as foreign nationals. Again, the point was not his particular nationality, but the juxtaposition of “bad” visa laws compared to the gun control argument. If we can stop things like this by outlawing guns, why can’t we also stop it by outlawing visas. Just illustrating an absurdity with an absurd example.)
Here is another point that I’ll guarantee you won’t see much discussion of: schools are supposedly “gun free zones” but this foreign killer easily brought a gun into the school and, with no opposition, deliberately killed over 30 people. Some “gun free zone” that is.
But, there is no escaping the common sense realization that if some of the other students there were armed, this murderer might not have been able to take out 30 some people without some response to his actions. At least some of the others would have been able to defend themselves instead of having that natural right to self-defense summarily removed by the fantasy of the school’s “gun free zone” policy.
This disgusting, horrific action proves that if gun laws remove guns from the hands of sane, law abiding citizens, only lunatics and criminals will have them and only lunatics and murderers will be able to use them with no opposition.
This event is no tragedy. It is a crime, the kind of crime that can never be stopped by a mere law. If someone is going to lose their sanity like this, no law written on paper will make them miraculously calm down. But if anti-gun laws preventing a person from being able to defend themselves prevail, it is sure that incidents such as this will never see an opportunity to be limited as much as possible in damage and scope. Anti-gun laws don’t make anyone safer, they only limit the victims to the number of bullets a murderer decides to bring along on his next spree. Anti-gun laws are laws that assure the deaths of innocents that other wise might live should they be able to defend themselves.
The “tragedy” is in the anti-gun laws that prevented those students in Virginia Tech from defending themselves.
No, on second thought, that is a crime, too.
4-17-07-UPDATE: The Vir. legislature nixed a law that would have let these Vir. Tech students defend themselves…
Gun bill gets shot down by panel
HB 1572, which would have allowed handguns on college campuses, died in subcommittee.
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.
House Bill 1572 didn’t get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. “I’m sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly’s actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”
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How happy is Larry now?
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April 16th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
hey man.. ive got the real solution to these random shootings…double the funding studying womens eating disorders!!!!!
April 16th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Why is it that whenever a shooting spree like this happens, they want to take guns away from those who did not do it?
I am quoting someone, I just don’t remember his name. My apologies for my plagerism.
A good question for the thick liberals who want to repeal the Second Amendment, and for the Euroweenies, including the Brits who repealed the right to keep and bear arms from their English Bill of Rights:
Why do we never here of this kind of incident taking place at either a police station or a hunting lodge?
April 16th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
> It’s as if, before the last victim was even cold, every anti-gun
> advocate in the country hurriedly warmed up their cars to
> race to their local media source to call for more gun control.
Oh, come on. I listened to a lot of the cable news coverage today (CNN and MSNBC mostly), as well as Katie Couric’s CBS Evening News, and heard nothing remotely resembling your hyperbole. Not even once. Maybe you were just on the wrong channel.
The Second Amendment won’t be repealed day after tomorrow because of this, so I don’t think such a hair-trigger response as yours is either called for or very helpful.
April 16th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
How did someone not a U.S. Citizen get this gun past the ATF Yellow Form?
Could it be that he got it illegally?
So how do Gun laws stop illegal activity and procurment?
If more laws governing guns make more things about guns illegal then that means there is just that much more activity that the lawless can operate within, and making more people criminals for exercsing G-D given Rights.
It really is simple. Gun regualtion only regulates legal activity.
They will never stop the actions of those who are willing to make a concerted effort to harm others. Chaining doors closed is a sign of serious premeditation to trap a lot of people for an easy kill.
Me, I am stupid. My life insurance is pad up, I have lost my family, and I know when a gun is taken out it is going to be used, it is probably an ambush, and there is only one escape in an ambush – rush the Ambush line.
Meanwhile VT Students took the outrun your classmate Doctrine, the mode of fighting of the Feminists and the (Modern) French.
Oh my! I see a correlation! Both do fight with their feet and fuck with their faces! LOL!
April 17th, 2007 at 4:50 am
Come on folks, this guy was just another freedom fighting mass murderer. What differentiates him from the head-choppers? Is there no compassion for these alternative life forms?
April 17th, 2007 at 6:21 am
Sure, it can be argued that easy access to firearms made this killing spree possible.
However, if this person were motivated enough to commit this crime in the first place then they would certainly be motivated enough to find another means of achieving this end sans-firearms.
To quote Archie Bunker, “Would it make you feel any better, if they was pushed out windows?”
April 17th, 2007 at 8:51 am
The feminist mindset based on irrational thought: confiscate all guns!!
The problems:
1) People will always find ways to do violence. Evil people will still be evil.
2) Police, almost all of the time, show up AFTER the fact! The simple truth is, as we see EVERY DAY on the news, in a moment of crisis, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!! The police mop up afterward, and try to catch the criminal AFTER THE FACT.
3) Had ONE professor had a gun, just ONE, this nut could have been stopped. But like the sheeple people are, they were lambs to a slaughter because GUNS BAD. Reality: PEOPLE BAD, guns inanimate objects.
4) John Lott, a conservative writer, has stats showing how many times a gun was used to stop a crime. It happens every day in this country, you just don’t read it because the news is biased.
Because of feminism, we’ve doped our boys, brain washed them with PC from grade school forward, threatened them, and locked them up. But still, violence happens. Because MEN are AGGRESSIVE. Without that, civilization wouldn’t exist.
Instead of working against the nature of men, why not put a CHECK on violent behavior? AS in an armed citizenry? And teaching codes of ethics that respect men’s natures?
Just an idea…
April 17th, 2007 at 8:55 am
I wonder how fast the Asian advocacy groups who will jump on this and spin it to where Asians are the “victims” like we saw muslim groups do after 9/11? No doubt we will start hearing about how he was “alienated” and that he faced “racism” on a daily basis at the hands of white students.
April 17th, 2007 at 9:24 am
lets knock it up a notch.. and remember where you heard it.
the man is from south korea.. read the descriptions that the survivor from the german class gave of what he was wearing… a black vest.. and a brown vest… but under something like a boy scout uniform..
http://axisofeviltour.com/nk-images/nk-dmz…ier-closeup.jpg
i am not a conspiracist… so i cant draw conclusions other than this may have been a south korean soldier at one time
i dont know.. but just do a search and compare that photo with a boy scout uniform…
April 17th, 2007 at 9:26 am
sorry the last link didnt work…
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April 17th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Roger, the British don’t have a ‘Bill of Rights’; they have ‘Common Law’. They also have a Labour (Democrat) Government. The British citizen never had a ‘right’ to bear arms. There was a short period when every man was obliged to practice on the archery butts every day but that was a long time ago and the bow became obsolete. I still keep my hand in!
America is pretty well the only country in the world to have the right for citizens to bear arms enshrined in a Constitution. It was, and remains, a very wise decision. It would be retrograde to lose it.
Your question though is apposite: “Why is it that whenever a shooting spree like this happens, they want to take guns away from those who did not do it?” Such is the state of thinking when fear takes over from sound consideration.