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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Permissive Gun Law&#8217; Charge Spreads, Why Not &#8216;Permissive&#8217; Visa Laws? Killer on Student Visa</title>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, the British don&#039;t have a &#039;Bill of Rights&#039;; they have &#039;Common Law&#039;. They also have a Labour  (Democrat) Government. The British citizen never had a &#039;right&#039; to bear arms. There was a short period when every man was obliged to practice on the archery butts every day but that was a long time ago and the bow became obsolete. I still keep my hand in! 

America is pretty well the only country in the world to have the right for citizens to bear arms enshrined in a Constitution. It was, and remains, a very wise decision. It would be retrograde to lose it.

Your question though is apposite: &quot;Why is it that whenever a shooting spree like this happens, they want to take guns away from those who did not do it?&quot; Such is the state of thinking when fear takes over from sound consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, the British don&#8217;t have a &#8216;Bill of Rights&#8217;; they have &#8216;Common Law&#8217;. They also have a Labour  (Democrat) Government. The British citizen never had a &#8216;right&#8217; to bear arms. There was a short period when every man was obliged to practice on the archery butts every day but that was a long time ago and the bow became obsolete. I still keep my hand in! </p>
<p>America is pretty well the only country in the world to have the right for citizens to bear arms enshrined in a Constitution. It was, and remains, a very wise decision. It would be retrograde to lose it.</p>
<p>Your question though is apposite: &#8220;Why is it that whenever a shooting spree like this happens, they want to take guns away from those who did not do it?&#8221; Such is the state of thinking when fear takes over from sound consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry the last link didnt work...

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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets knock it up a notch.. and remember where you heard it. 

the man is from south korea..   read the descriptions that the survivor from the german class gave of what he was wearing...  a black vest.. and a brown vest... but under something like a boy scout uniform.. 

http://axisofeviltour.com/nk-images/nk-dmz...ier-closeup.jpg

i am not a conspiracist... so i cant draw conclusions other than this may have been a south korean soldier at one time

i dont know.. but just do a search and compare that photo with a boy scout uniform...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets knock it up a notch.. and remember where you heard it. </p>
<p>the man is from south korea..   read the descriptions that the survivor from the german class gave of what he was wearing&#8230;  a black vest.. and a brown vest&#8230; but under something like a boy scout uniform.. </p>
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<p>i am not a conspiracist&#8230; so i cant draw conclusions other than this may have been a south korean soldier at one time</p>
<p>i dont know.. but just do a search and compare that photo with a boy scout uniform&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheRanger</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheRanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how fast the Asian advocacy groups who will jump on this and spin it to where Asians are the &quot;victims&quot; like we saw muslim groups do after 9/11? No doubt we will start hearing about how he was &quot;alienated&quot; and that he faced &quot;racism&quot; on a daily basis at the hands of white students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how fast the Asian advocacy groups who will jump on this and spin it to where Asians are the &#8220;victims&#8221; like we saw muslim groups do after 9/11? No doubt we will start hearing about how he was &#8220;alienated&#8221; and that he faced &#8220;racism&#8221; on a daily basis at the hands of white students.</p>
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		<title>By: randyf</title>
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		<dc:creator>randyf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The feminist mindset based on irrational thought: confiscate all guns!!

The problems: 
1) People will always find ways to do violence. Evil people will still be evil.
2) Police, almost all of the time, show up AFTER the fact! The simple truth is, as we see EVERY DAY on the news, in a moment of crisis, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!! The police mop up afterward, and try to catch the criminal AFTER THE FACT.
3)  Had ONE professor had a gun, just ONE, this nut could have been stopped. But like the sheeple people are, they were lambs to a slaughter because GUNS BAD. Reality: PEOPLE BAD, guns inanimate objects.
4) John Lott, a conservative writer, has stats showing how many times a gun was used to stop a crime.  It happens every day in this country, you just don&#039;t read it because the news is biased.


Because of feminism, we&#039;ve doped our boys, brain washed them with PC from grade school forward, threatened them, and locked them up. But still, violence happens.  Because MEN are AGGRESSIVE.  Without that, civilization wouldn&#039;t exist.

Instead of working against the nature of men, why not put a CHECK on violent behavior? AS in an armed citizenry? And teaching codes of ethics that respect men&#039;s natures? 

Just an idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The feminist mindset based on irrational thought: confiscate all guns!!</p>
<p>The problems:<br />
1) People will always find ways to do violence. Evil people will still be evil.<br />
2) Police, almost all of the time, show up AFTER the fact! The simple truth is, as we see EVERY DAY on the news, in a moment of crisis, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN!! The police mop up afterward, and try to catch the criminal AFTER THE FACT.<br />
3)  Had ONE professor had a gun, just ONE, this nut could have been stopped. But like the sheeple people are, they were lambs to a slaughter because GUNS BAD. Reality: PEOPLE BAD, guns inanimate objects.<br />
4) John Lott, a conservative writer, has stats showing how many times a gun was used to stop a crime.  It happens every day in this country, you just don&#8217;t read it because the news is biased.</p>
<p>Because of feminism, we&#8217;ve doped our boys, brain washed them with PC from grade school forward, threatened them, and locked them up. But still, violence happens.  Because MEN are AGGRESSIVE.  Without that, civilization wouldn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Instead of working against the nature of men, why not put a CHECK on violent behavior? AS in an armed citizenry? And teaching codes of ethics that respect men&#8217;s natures? </p>
<p>Just an idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ouderkirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ouderkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, it can be argued that easy access to firearms made this killing spree possible. 

However, if this person were motivated enough to commit this crime in the first place then they would certainly be motivated enough to find another means of achieving this end sans-firearms.

To quote Archie Bunker, &quot;Would it make you feel any better, if they was pushed out windows?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, it can be argued that easy access to firearms made this killing spree possible. </p>
<p>However, if this person were motivated enough to commit this crime in the first place then they would certainly be motivated enough to find another means of achieving this end sans-firearms.</p>
<p>To quote Archie Bunker, &#8220;Would it make you feel any better, if they was pushed out windows?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: S Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on folks, this guy was just another freedom fighting mass murderer. What differentiates him from the head-choppers? Is there no compassion for these alternative life forms?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on folks, this guy was just another freedom fighting mass murderer. What differentiates him from the head-choppers? Is there no compassion for these alternative life forms?</p>
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		<title>By: thurston861</title>
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		<dc:creator>thurston861</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did someone not a U.S. Citizen get this gun past the ATF Yellow Form?

Could it be that he got it illegally?

So how do Gun laws stop illegal activity and procurment?

If more laws governing guns make more things about guns illegal then that means there is just that much more activity that the lawless can operate within, and making more people criminals for exercsing G-D given Rights.

It really is simple.  Gun regualtion only regulates legal activity.

They will never stop the actions of those who are willing to make a concerted effort to harm others. Chaining doors closed is a sign of serious premeditation to trap a lot of people for an easy kill.

Me, I am stupid.  My life insurance is pad up, I have lost my family, and I know when a gun is taken out it is going to be used, it is probably an ambush, and there is only one escape in an ambush - rush the Ambush line.

Meanwhile VT Students took the outrun your classmate Doctrine, the mode of fighting of the Feminists and the (Modern) French.

Oh my! I see a correlation! Both do fight with their feet and fuck with their faces!   LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did someone not a U.S. Citizen get this gun past the ATF Yellow Form?</p>
<p>Could it be that he got it illegally?</p>
<p>So how do Gun laws stop illegal activity and procurment?</p>
<p>If more laws governing guns make more things about guns illegal then that means there is just that much more activity that the lawless can operate within, and making more people criminals for exercsing G-D given Rights.</p>
<p>It really is simple.  Gun regualtion only regulates legal activity.</p>
<p>They will never stop the actions of those who are willing to make a concerted effort to harm others. Chaining doors closed is a sign of serious premeditation to trap a lot of people for an easy kill.</p>
<p>Me, I am stupid.  My life insurance is pad up, I have lost my family, and I know when a gun is taken out it is going to be used, it is probably an ambush, and there is only one escape in an ambush &#8211; rush the Ambush line.</p>
<p>Meanwhile VT Students took the outrun your classmate Doctrine, the mode of fighting of the Feminists and the (Modern) French.</p>
<p>Oh my! I see a correlation! Both do fight with their feet and fuck with their faces!   LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: MartianBachelor</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartianBachelor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Itâ€™s as if, before the last victim was even cold, every anti-gun
&gt; advocate in the country hurriedly warmed up their cars to
&gt; race to their local media source to call for more gun control.

Oh, come on.  I listened to a lot of the cable news coverage today (CNN and MSNBC mostly), as well as Katie Couric&#039;s CBS Evening News, and heard nothing remotely resembling your hyperbole.  Not even once.  Maybe you were just on the wrong channel.

The Second Amendment won&#039;t be repealed day after tomorrow because of this, so I don&#039;t think such a hair-trigger response as yours is either called for or very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Itâ€™s as if, before the last victim was even cold, every anti-gun<br />
&gt; advocate in the country hurriedly warmed up their cars to<br />
&gt; race to their local media source to call for more gun control.</p>
<p>Oh, come on.  I listened to a lot of the cable news coverage today (CNN and MSNBC mostly), as well as Katie Couric&#8217;s CBS Evening News, and heard nothing remotely resembling your hyperbole.  Not even once.  Maybe you were just on the wrong channel.</p>
<p>The Second Amendment won&#8217;t be repealed day after tomorrow because of this, so I don&#8217;t think such a hair-trigger response as yours is either called for or very helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that whenever a shooting spree like this happens, they want to take guns away from those who did not do it?

I am quoting someone, I just don&#039;t remember his name.  My apologies for my plagerism.

A good question for the thick liberals who want to repeal the Second Amendment, and for the Euroweenies, including the Brits who repealed the right to keep and bear arms from their English Bill of Rights:

Why do we never here of this kind of incident taking place at either a police station or a hunting lodge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that whenever a shooting spree like this happens, they want to take guns away from those who did not do it?</p>
<p>I am quoting someone, I just don&#8217;t remember his name.  My apologies for my plagerism.</p>
<p>A good question for the thick liberals who want to repeal the Second Amendment, and for the Euroweenies, including the Brits who repealed the right to keep and bear arms from their English Bill of Rights:</p>
<p>Why do we never here of this kind of incident taking place at either a police station or a hunting lodge?</p>
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		<title>By: scottkirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey man.. ive got the real solution to these random shootings...double the funding studying womens eating disorders!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey man.. ive got the real solution to these random shootings&#8230;double the funding studying womens eating disorders!!!!!</p>
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