In Defense of Alec Baldwin
“Kim Basinger’s mother has blasted her own daughter for wrecking relations between her ex-husband Alec Baldwin and the couple’s daughter. Baldwin recently took Basinger to court in a bid to extend his custody terms after the actress allegedly violated a court imposed settlement, and now little Ireland’s grandmother is speaking out about the court battle…she calls [Baldwin] ‘wonderful,’ adding, ‘My heart is sad for Ireland. She’s the one that’s suffering the most. All this is killing her. I think Kim has tried to alienate Ireland from her father. Alec loves his daughter with all his heart. He really is a family man…I hate what [Kim] is doing.’”–The Irish Examiner, 12/30/05
Alec Baldwin blew his stack in this recently released voice mail message that Baldwin left his 12 year-old daughter Ireland. Baldwin definitely said things he should not have said, and should not have spoken to his child that way. However, the real issue here is not Baldwin’s angry outburst but the vicious Parental Alienation campaign Baldwin has been subjected to for the past six years. A few points:
1) Basinger’s Alienation campaign against Baldwin has been so bad and so hurtful both to Baldwin and Ireland that even Kim Basinger’s mother has publicly condemned her daughter (see above).
2) Baldwin’s frustration is understandable–he’s trying hard to retain a relationship with his daughter in the face of Basinger’s relentless attempts to drive him out of his child’s life. Baldwin said:
“Once again, I have made an ass of myself trying to get to a phone…I’m tired of playing this game with you…you have insulted me for the last time. I don’t give a damn that you’re 12-years-old or 11-years-old, or a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn’t care about what you do…you have humiliated me for the last time…This crap you pull on me with this goddamn phone situation that you would never dream of doing to your mother, and you do it to me constantly over and over again.”
He said some things he definitely shouldn’t have said, here and in the rest of the tape, but any parent in this situation would be angry.
3) There are times in any parent’s life when the parent blows up at his or her child. There is not one parent reading this–not one–who can honestly say that they’ve never lost their temper with their children and said things that they should not have said. Those in the media moralizing at Baldwin are either hypocrites, have a faulty memory, or are such marginal parents that they never interacted with their kids enough to reach a real level of frustration. I was a teacher for many years, and Baldwin’s tirade, while bad, is nowhere near as bad as some that I’ve heard. And sometimes the kids deserved it.
4) These tapes were leaked to the media by Basinger in violation of a court order. Basinger’s purpose in leaking them was revenge against Baldwin and leverage in her court battle to drive Baldwin out of his daughter’s life. Does anybody really think that Ireland’s best interests are served by Basinger leaking this publicly?
Baldwin’s lawyer, Viki Roberts, said, “Whatever happened yesterday was sealed and confidential…The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order. Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years….In the best interest of the child, Alec will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing – keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order.”
5) While Baldwin was over the top, sometimes kids need to be called to account for their behavior. Ireland had repeatedly defied her father and repeatedly broken commitments to him–any mother or father would and should be angry in that situation.
6) Baldwin tells Ireland he’s going to “straighten her out,” so the Basinger camp and its allies are calling this “threatening.” I doubt this was any real threat–he was cracking down on his daughter’s misbehavior, as any parent should. Physical abuse of daughters by their fathers is extremely rare, and there’s no history of it between Baldwin and Ireland.
7) One tactic frequently employed by alienating mothers–including Basinger–is to drive the father crazy by employing alienation tactics, violating visitation orders, forbidding the father to speak to the child on the phone, poisoning the child’s mind against the father, etc. This is done in an effort to provoke the father into blowing his top. And when he does, mom pretends to be a scared, quivering little lamb fearful of “his awful temper.”
Basinger played it very well here, and Baldwin was foolish to allow himself to fall into her trap. I’m sure Basinger will now be telling us how traumatized Ireland is, and how she is fearful and needs therapy and time away from her father to recover from what he did to her. What Ireland really needs is time away from Basinger and her malignant alienation. I doubt any conflict between Ireland and Baldwin would last 10 minutes if not for Basinger’s influence.
While we’re moralizing at Baldwin for losing his temper, I would urge the reader to do the following: Below are several examples of Parental Alienation, drawn from John Stossel, transcripts of a recent California Supreme Court case, and various newspaper columns I’ve written over the past several years. Read the examples of Alienation while putting yourself in the place of the targeted parent. Then decide honestly whether in these situations you would never lose your temper.
Example #1
John Stossel, in his new book Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel–Why Everything You Know is Wrong, says he filmed an example of Parental Alienation for his TV show. He describes it as follows:
“We videotaped one such heartbreaking scene. A divorced father went to see his five kids for what he thought would be a full-day visit. He was entitled to that, under court order, and the court also ordered the mother not to discourage the children from spending time with their father. But she clearly had poisoned his children’s minds against him. The father just stood outside his ex-wife’s house and begged his children, ‘would you like to go out with me today?’ ‘No,’ said one kid after another. Then the mother ordered the kids back into her house.
“What comes through on the tape is the unbridled satisfaction of the mother and the helplessness of the father.â€
Example #2
In the LaMusga case decided by the California Supreme Court in 2004, Gary LaMusga’s son’s kindergarten teacher testified about the tactics LaMusga’s ex-wife, Susan Navarro, used to try to turn his children against him. The kindergarten teacher explained that Navarro asked her to keep track of the time Gary spent volunteering in his little son’s kindergarten classroom so it could be deducted from his visitation time with his son.
According to the teacher, the LaMusga boy told her “my dad lies in court…if you tell the judge…he could talk to you” and said that his mom had told him this. The teacher testified:
“I finally sat down with him and told him that it was OK for him to love his daddy. I basically gave him permission to love his father. And he seemed brightened by that…â€
The teacher continued:
“The next day that Gary had seen the kids he came to me the following morning and said,’ what did you say to him?…He was so happy. He just greeted me with open arms…we had one of the best evenings that we have had in a long time.’ And I just shared with Gary at that point that I had given his son permission to love his father….I’m not sure that he was aware that he could do that.”
Example #3
A four year-old boy is jumping up and down with joy.
“Daddy! Daddy!”
Dad gets out of the car.
“Daddy’s here! Daddy’s here!”
The boy is behind a locked screen door. He tries to open it.
“Daddy’s here! Mommy, look, daddy’s here!”
Dad knows he shouldn’t open the door. He waits for his ex-wife to open the door. She doesn’t do it.
“This is my visitation time,” Dad says, waving a court document.
Mom still won’t open the door.
The boy jumps up and down, saying “daddy, daddy.†He yanks on the screen door handle but still can’t get it open.
Dad looks at his little boy. He pauses, takes a deep breath, and walks back to his car.
The little boy doesn’t understand. Why won’t daddy come? Why is daddy walking away from him?
The little boy disappears inside the house.
Dad calls the police. When the officers arrive he shows them his court documents. The officers go inside to investigate. They come out a few minutes later.
“Your son says he doesn’t want to see you,†the officer says. “There’s nothing I can do. You’ll have to deal with it in the court. I can’t make him go with you if he doesn’t want to.”
Dad finally gets to see his kids three months later. The children spit on both him and their grandmother. Almost in unison they repeat “I don’t want to be here. I want to go home with mommy, I don’t want to be here. I want to go home with mommy, I don’t want to be here. I want to go home with mommy.â€
Example #4
After Jim L.’s wife divorced him and moved his daughters out of state, she sent the two girls fake or altered e-mails purporting to be Jim. Afterwards, Jim’s daughters refused to see him, explaining only “you know what you’ve done, you know what you said, you know what you wrote.â€
Once when Jim flew to see his girls for his scheduled weekend visit, his ex-wife decided at the last minute to block the visit. Jim flew home on Sunday without having seen his girls. When he arrived at the airport back home he checked his messages and found a message from his ex-wife. On the recording his girls could be heard crying in the background. His ex-wife said:
“Jim, the girls are here at the restaurant waiting for you to come pick them up. You said you’d meet them here for breakfast and spend the day with them, and you didn’t show up. The girls are very upset. Jim, where are you?!?â€
Example #5
Bill, a divorced dad, is a retired fireman. When his kids were young he occasionally had to work unscheduled weekend shifts with little warning. If an unexpected schedule change meant he had to work the weekend of his visitation with his children, his ex-wife would have his kids pack for a weekend with dad anyway and sit on the curb outside their house to wait for him. Hours would pass waiting for dad to come, but when the kids would knock on the door and ask mom if dad was going to show up, all she’d say is “he’ll be here.â€
To learn more about Parental Alienation, click here.
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April 20th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
Glenn Sacks has hit the nail right on the head again with this excellent article “In Defense of Alec Baldwin.”
I agree 110% with this article and all of its views.
I also think it is inexcusable for Kim Basinger to release such a tape to the media. I lost a lot of respect for the woman for doing such a dastardly deed to the FATHER of her child. It is an extremely CRAST thing to do.
Thank you Glenn for all your hard work, and HONESTY.
April 20th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Glenn, great article.
There is a group you’re missing in your statement: “Those in the media moralizing at Baldwin are either hypocrites, have a faulty memory, or are such marginal parents that they never interacted with their kids enough to reach a real level of frustration.”
I heard a MAN on the radio yesterday bashing Baldwin, saying: “Go, judge!” A lot of the so-called moralizers are people who never asked how that voicemail got onto TMZ.com — never blaming Bassinger for harming her daughter. These A-holes NEVER have been married divorced or had children or over custody matters, or experienced parental alienation.
This is the typical man-bad/woman-good scenario.
April 20th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
[...] a great article about Alec’s situation and parental [...]
April 20th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
This would be a reasonable screed if it wasn’t for the fact that we all know that Alec Baldwin is known for using this same kind of “intemperate” language directed at people who don’t see the world in his distorted and perverted way.
Baldwin deserves no sympathy in this situation. he has once more revealed himself as incapable of controlling his temper, and if I was a judge, I would take this tape as a serious threat.
Yes men are cheated and mistreated all the time by scheming and disceptive spouses, but that should never be used to excuse this kind of display of uncontrolled temper.
Baldwin is a louse and no amount of whining about unequal treatment of other men by the courts can change that.
You only damage your case of men’s advocacy when you defend someone like Baldwin. It is precisely this kind of behavior in the past that has led the courts to the sad state they are in.
This is a poorly considered article defending someone deserving of nothing but condemnation. Bassinger’s no angel, but she hasn’t threatened her child.
April 20th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
I’ll grant you that Kim Bassinger is scum. That’s not a question. But Alec Baldwin is human garbage too. I knew this even before I heard the recording. That just add’s to his stench. Yes, I’ve gotten angry with my children, but cussing at them and calling them “rude, thoughtless pigs” is so far over the top it’s indefensible. Obviously Kim doesn’t need any help poisoning their daughters mind against him.
April 20th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
Squiggy wrote: “’ll grant you that Kim Bassinger is scum. That’s not a question. But Alec Baldwin is human garbage too. ”
No one is “human garbage.” Although I don’t agree with what Kim Basinger did in regards to releasing said audio message I would not label her or Alec as “human garbage.” Yes, I believe it was crass of her to release the recording to the public. I also believe this entire situation is sorrowful, and could have been avoided.
Jesus Christ did for ALL of us, and none of us are without fault, myself included.
Will Malven wrote: “This is a poorly considered article defending someone deserving of nothing but condemnation. Bassinger’s no angel, but she hasn’t threatened her child.”
No she didn’t “threaten” her child. Yet you overlooked the parental alienation aspect. I guess that doesn’t count though right?
Even Godly men may fault via the mouth… Does our God throw them away? No we are not perfect, but must be understanding and realistic.
Jas 3:1
My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
Jas 3:2
For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
Jas 3:3
Behold, we put bits in the horses’ mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
Jas 3:4
Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
Jas 3:5
Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
Jas 3:6
And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
Jas 3:7
For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
Jas 3:8
But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Jas 3:9
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
Jas 3:10
Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Jas 3:11
Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
Jas 3:12
Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
Jas 3:13
Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
Jas 3:14
But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
Jas 3:15
This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
Jas 3:16
For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
Jas 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
Jas 3:18
And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
April 20th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Let’s see, Baldwin says “Once again, I have made an ass of myself trying to get to a phone…” Huh?? He’s doesn’t have a cell phone? Note the “Once again” and “trying to get to a phone”. What’s up with that? If he keeps making an ass of himself trying to get to a phone, why take it out on the kid?
The qoute from his Mother-in-law was from back in December ‘05: it would be interesting to get a qoute from, say, this week.
April 20th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
“The qoute from his Mother-in-law was from back in December ‘05: it would be interesting to get a qoute from, say, this week.”
The quote although dated is still prima facia evidence of the modus operandi of Kim Basinger regarding her interference with the father-daughter relationship.
April 20th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
Also, Leopards seldom change their spots withoutt the unction of the Holy one.
April 20th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
kim basinger just left a scar on herd daughter that wont easilly be washed away..and she doesn’t realize it yet…
In hear venomous intention to win leverage in court…she has sacrificed her daughter…
Women, and mother..the great goddess can stepon and use anyone in her path for her interests…..no-one can stop her!!!!!
April 20th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Will malven, you condemn Alec Baldwin for his rough language. But many a rough man is a good father.
The problem here is that Alec Baldwin is put through an inexcuseable amount of crap an NO MAN, at not any MAN who DESERVES to be CALLED a MAN will put up with an infinite amount of bullshit.
Ireland Baldwin has no damn excuse for treating her father with disrespect. No child has such an excuse with any father who does not abuse her.
Perhaps Cho Whatshisface at Virginia Tech needed a father willing to tell him what is what. If such father had to use all Seven Words to get it through to him, so be it. Had there been such a father backed up by a society that believes in the authority of fathers, 33 dead souls would be still alive today.
Kim Basinger has no damn excuse for her silly-ass game playing and the courts have no damn excuse for enabling Basinger’s game playing, and for denying fathers equal rights in derogation of the Constitution, the 50 state constitutions, and the Antipeonage Act.
Bravo for Alec! Ireland needed to hear that!
Of course they still love each other, and tough love is sometimes necessary.
April 20th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
One hard question being raised here is what to require of the alienated child.
Are they purely a victim, or in some sense at some point or age do they also become complicit?
April 20th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
I have no sympathy for Baldwins politics! I completely and undeniably understand his pain. The right of a father, to be a father to his children should NEVER be challenged! As a society, we commonly misinterpret pain for anger. If his anger is prevalent, where are the physical consequences? We always asssume anger as the potential for physical harm…wrong! PAIN is suffering. This man is suffering from the pain of being detached and alienated from his daughter. I empathize with Alec on this level. What crime has he committed? The crime of FATHERHOOD? Should he or any man expect that his involvement with his child be subjugated by the Family Court System? NO!!! A Child has the un-alieble right to be parented by both parents! A Father has the un-aliealble right to parent their child!!! Alec is the epitome of what is wrong with our society. Again, I hate his politics, but he does not deserve the treatment he has been given by his ex-wife or the liberal/communist Family Court System.
April 20th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
There have been various rumors during the last 4 or so years that Baldwin was going to champion family court reform: I think his politics, as mentioned, precludes this.
While Baldwin was clearly `angry’ in the old-fashioned sense, almost any manifestation of distress or expression of dissatisfaction with his situation from a father is likely to be labeled `anger’ in the family court context. In connection with domestic violence the term has been twisted into virtual meaninglessness: the loser in any dispute is forced to wear the mantle of having exhibited _inappropriate_ anger.
April 20th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
One would assume that everyone posting hereabouts is familar with the legal concept of Parental Alienation, whereby one divorced parent (usually the mother) uses the kids as a weapon in a vengeful rage against her ex-husband, the father of her children.
I wish to suggest just this –
Parental alienation is a control strategy that mothers begin to use to control thier husbands as soon as the children are born. During the “intact marriage.”
In other words, most “parental alienation” begins within the marriage — NOT during and after divorce proceedings.
Women (mothers) routinely use their children as weapons, as battlefields, in their marital wars with their husbands.
Dads have all experienced this.
The kids are pawns in a psychotic marital conflict.
I could write at length.
Perhaps Glenn…
perhaps you might weigh in on this issue with your expertise?
Lord knows you’ve received hudreds of phone calls and e-mails during your hosting of HisSide….
April 21st, 2007 at 5:23 am
All of you people defending Alec Baldwin need to ask yourself this question: Has this little incident helped or hurt the Mens Rights Movement? (Be honest.)
As always, Baldwin has damaged the cause of good and decent men (whatever his justification).
April 21st, 2007 at 6:57 am
Has this little incident helped or hurt the Mens Rights Movement? (Be honest.)
Honestly, while it hurts because it furthers the stereotype of fathers as vile evil villains, it might just help in the long run. Why? Because liberals are rushing to defend one of their own, Alec Baldwin. And how are they defending him? By raising awareness of parental alienation. If the liberal media is going to discuss PAS instead of silencing the discussion to appease feminists, that could be a very, very good thing, for fathers, children, and mothers, but not for lawyers, judges, and feminists.
April 21st, 2007 at 7:37 am
Tough one…a man I have a low opinion of, who is in a divorce I know is filled with femaile dirty tricks, makes a mistake at the child. It helped me to consider the kids age. By 12 now days kids have developed quite a skill at manipulativeness and generally getting under your skin. I remember my girl, now 16 and still difficult, at 12 my wife and I told her a couple times that while we love her, we simply didnt like her at that time. It seemed blundt and harsh, but it was true. It was horrible to just be around her.
Another angle here is for feminists to look at what they’ve created in our girls….they didnt learn how to be so disrespectful on Father Knows Best now did they?
April 21st, 2007 at 8:13 am
A real double-edger this one. I don’t expect anyone here is perfect and I do expect that at one time or another everyone of us has got completely pissed off with a recalcitrant child. I don’t even know what it was that Baldwin blew his stack over. Does anyone?
I listened to his rant. It was actually quite measured. It was less ‘abusive’ and ‘threatening’ than is being made out. Sure, it may have been loud and forceful but calling someone a thoughtless pig is hardly on a par with ‘all men are rapists’, and telling a child that you are going to spend a whole day with them to ’sort them out’ is a reasonable parental commitment.
I do not excuse him. I do not condemn him either. It was unfortunate. I do not excuse and I do condemn his ex-wife. Her action in making this public is reprehensible. Par for the course she follows though. It is a well trodden unfairway.
As for whether Baldwin could carry representations for fathers in general in the matters that are most in our hearts, again, just how perfect do you want a representative to be? If he can’t be seen as a ‘person of profile’ and too imperfect by virtue of politics and words, I don’t see much use in putting my hand up!
April 21st, 2007 at 8:15 am
Parental Alienation is epidemic in this country. We now live in a country where the women have usurped authority from the men. Now, they are pretty much running the show, and calling the shots.
Hence, the myriad of social disasters parental alienation is just one more example of their abuse of power.
April 21st, 2007 at 2:39 pm
I agree with a lot of this article but I want to make one point. Parental alienation can go both ways. I am a divorced mom. I never wanted to be one of those bitter, angry divorcees who use their children as weapons against their ex, so I gave my ex a lot more than any court would have. 50/50 wasn’t workable since our child is school aged and my ex lives an hour away (his choice). So we agreed to every other weekend plus 50/50 on all school breaks and an “open door” policy. He can call whenever he wants, pick her up after school to take her to dinner, and I am always open to changes in order to facilitate a close relationship. I also invite him to parent/teacher conferences, other school events and awards ceremonies. For the record, he has rarely called, and has never been to a parent/teacher conference or an awards ceremony. He has managed to make it for the occasional school dance, though.
But in spite of my willingness to negotiate and patience on often late or unpaid support, that hasn’t been enough. He owns horses. My daughter wants desperately to ride in rodeos and parades and such. So he told her that if she wants to ride in competition, she “needs to be with him more”. Hint, hint. He also tells her that he constantly misses her and that he “wishes he could see her more, but that Mom won’t let him”. Hint, hint, nudge, nudge. Now she tells me that I am mean to him and that she wants to live with him because she wants to learn to be a better rider and that he is sad without her. He has even shown her our divorce agreement and told her that she can decide for herself in a few years. She’s 9! He tells her stories about when we were married and rewrites history to make me the bad guy in every single one. Meanwhile, whenever she has asked questions about our relationship/marriage, I have been very fair, telling her that we both made me mistakes and that we were young and naive. So despite my kindness, I am getting demonized and my child sees me as the jerk. Yet when I ask him about it, or try to talk to him, he gets mad or deflects everything saying that she is blowing smoke. I am sorry, but when she can quote the settlement agreement verbatim, she isn’t lying.
I am now seriously considering litigation, because it is significantly damaging my daughter and my relationship with her. It is also damaging her relationship with her stepfather, as she constantly disrespects him and tells him that he can’t do anything about it because her dad said so. It is VERY frustrating and hurtful, especially since this man was once my best friend. So anyway, like I said, it goes both ways. I wish that he (and every other divorced parent) could put their child(ren) first and not play head games. Ultimately, it serves to hurt the child a lot more than the ex. The courts really need to take the whole parental alienation thing more seriously.
April 21st, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Ever since reading the article that Will Malven posted here on MND claiming that underage boys who were seduced into engaging in intimate relations with adult and much older women were not and could not be harmed by the experience…I have wondered why he and Squiggy are even here on MND which is a MRA site as from their comments it is quite clear to me that neither Will or Squggy are MRA’s…
However they do support a political party (repub.’s, religious right) that more often then not joins hands with the feminists and Democrats in both demonizing and oppressing the male gender…By passing laws that were written deliberately and intentionally with both malice and forethought to favor the feminine gender over and above men…Which makes all those who support them just as guilty as the feminists and lib. dem.’s…
My conclusion is that because of the wolves in MRA clothing such as Will and Squiggy is one of the primary reasons that the men’s movement has stalled and makes has made so little headway over the years in changing both the publics perception and opinions on issues such as PAS…
April 21st, 2007 at 7:09 pm
christineck…. hot dog..it sounds like we got a case of parental alienation syndrone that is being perpretrated by a man..
remember justice is only a court date away for you in this current anti-male climate.. but its good to think about the effects on children that un-fortunatelly get overlooked..
April 27th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
As for your inane remarks Dabir, You are absolutely correct, if whining like a little girl about life being unfair, blaming women for every ill in the world, and in general failing to act like a “Man” eliminates me from being considered an MRA, then you’re right.
If adopting the tactics of the very people we (as men) are attempting to defeat is a prerequisite for being an MRA, then count me out.
Title nine is an abomination, and we need to elect representatives who will overturn it. Whining about it will not accomplish anything.
Divorce law is at times completely unfair….so get off your butts and do something about it, stop whining about it on some website comments section like some little college girl.
If defending the indefensible acts of some genuine monster like Alec Baldwin is de riguer for membership to your little crying cotillion, count me out!
Baldwin is a beast with a very long history of uncontrolled emotional outbursts. The statements he made on the tape go way beyond the realm of a frustrated and anxious loving parent, and the only thing he has been seeking forgiveness for is to save his sorry career.
You and Marc Rudov, and Glen Sacks should be embarrassed to defend this guy. The other storys you relate in your article are completely irrelevant to the Baldwin case. No one…at least no one I have heard has ever made any claim that that looney tunes wife of his is or ever has been in any way angelic. She is as twisted as are most the “beautiful people” living in the fantasy world known as Hollywood. But none of that in anyway justifies what Baldwin has done.
Simply looking at him and his squinty small hard eyes and the insincerity of his demeanor in any of his appearances on television reveal the deep underlying anger in this man.
I personally know individuals like him. they are angry, hateful, and generally don’t give a rat’s ass about anyone but themselves. You can hear it in his tirade against Henry Hyde and his entire family, you can hear it in his tirades against President Bush and Dick Cheney.
Yes, you are correct Dabir, I am not an MRA, I am a man. I don’t cower, I don’t hold back, and I don’t vent my anger at women or little children, no matter how obnoxious they may be.
If you want to be a man, try living by Rudyard Kipling’s poem “If”