Well I would never want to discredit anyone’s individual effort, but when the U.S. military has to point out that if we “gender norm” (reduce the physical requirements for men to the average women’s level of physical achievement), then we would have to face the reality that “some women” would be unable to throw a hand grenade far enough not kill herself and her buddies. I recall a videotape that created quite a stir a number of years ago, made by local Los Angeles firefighters, and it was appropriately called, “Firefighter Follies.” On the tape women firefighter after woman firefighter was shown trying to raise a man’s ladder only to have the ladder fall over backwards on them and knock them down. They were shown struggling and failing to get over a training wall. You get the idea. It was an outrageous video, and would have been quite funny if not so politically incorrect. As I recall, heads rolled. I guess Jack Nicholson was never more right than this pathetic example of PC rationalization, when he uttered those now oft repeated words, “You can’t handle the truth!”

The article at AlterNet – the second one in a week there – says 41%, if I recall correctly. But if it’s “unexplained”, how can then one jump to the conclusion that it must be the result of _____ (discrimination, the patriarchy, etc.) Whoever’s doing these ’studies’ deserves about half pay for the shoddy work they put out. But that’s not the point, stoking female resentment of men is what it’s all about.

> the arrogance that comes from these women
> that think they will get away with it, again.

Thom, maybe it has to do with them not wanting to own up to the fact that in the paid economy it takes four women to do what three men can do, which is about what the “77 cents on the dollar” claim amounts to. When you mix a superiority complex with some evidence of inferiority in some circumstance, denial is the only way out of the contradiction.

And thanks Ray, for sending a letter to The Press Democrat. It’s not likely that they will hear from others but I do believe that over the last few years some of those who have been sitting silently on the side lines are less ready to believe the AAUW or other groups who have MS.lead them in the past.
SD

The reason why I thought this issue was dead was because it was based on the old census median income. It took awhile but it was eventually debunked because eventually caught on that they were comparing homemakers to CEOs. It made a lot of people look stupid and showed me the power that comes from misusing statistics.

That’s why I’m astonished by the arrogance that comes from these women that think they will get away with it, again. Yet, they probably will and that saddens me the most about this country.

On an unrelated note, I’ve got something I’d like to post. Who do I contact about that and more importantly, how?

How can the group draw a conclusion that the gap is “likely due to sex discrimination” when they just found it remained unexplained?

I say it’s due to witches and the full moon. I have a “study” to prove it!

I protested the pay difference propoganda two weeks ago in the Press Democrate of Santa Rosa CA… in their letters to the editor – I cited Warren’s book and I mentioned that I had contributed a bit, (It really pisses off the local feminists that I have any influence anywhere regardinig gender issues ) In my letter to the editor I told a good story about my daughter who, at age 16, was visiting her older brother’s college class. While there the male instructor said “men get paid more” and she said “Don’t you mean they ‘earn’more?”

The male teacher couldn’t even hear the difference between paid and earned. He assumed that this poor young, brash women was a traitor to her gender. She has heard such myths about gender for many years in public schools and speaks up while knowing she will get blasted. At age 18, almost finished with her second year of college, she still speaks up in classes run by feminists. (I will nominate her for an award someday)

Today, while the AAUW study was in The Press Democrat (Santa Rosa CA) a female teacher responded to my letter from two weeks ago in the letters column stating that “Steve DeLuca and others missed the point. ” (I suspect the paper ran her letter with the AAUW “study” to slam those of us who might think something besides gender affects men and women’s pay.) The letter I wrote was to support an article by (Hays was it?) a woman saying she was happy with 77 cents on the dollar because she didn’t work just for money, but to find satisfaction a flexible schedule and more.

The women protesting my claim that “oppression” of women is far below “women’s options” told the readers how she worked somewhere years ago where the women found they were paid less than men for the same work and some quit their jobs. (She didn’t tell us where she was employed) She then wrote – directing her comments at me – that it’s unfair to pay women less than men. It was she that missed the point that I had made. I was clear. I had written that teachers teaching our kids about pay differences only had one story – men oppress women and we don’t pay them fairly. I was clear about the risks to health and life men endure. She intentionally ignored my point to do what the AAUW is doing, repeating nonsense and hoping that will keep others from reading books like Farrell’s.

I wrote a reply to her today ( pisses me off when women pretend that I said something I didn’t – that letter won’t be published,) saying I got fired from a job once for protesting whites getting paid more than other races (Hawaii – 70’s) landscaping type work – Isaid that I didn’t support unfair pay to anyone any more than I supported superficial views of gender issues by feminist women.

Thom, in his comments above, hopes Obama will slam Hillary with the truth about pay differences. If Thom reads “The Audacity of Hope” by Obama, he will see that Obama thinks men should help women achieve their goals. He will see that Obama likes his wife, daughters, mom and grandma, but doesn’t think much of men including his father and grandfather. Obama ends the book with claiming – in his last line, something like “my wife is right as usual” Obama thinks American women have it worse then men.

The feminist lies about men in pay, health issues, and more, are believed by too many … but you, Ray, give me hope because you kick ass. From your truck and signs to today’s article, … you are the man.

Ray, if you have time, send a letter to the editor of The Press Democrat newspaper in Santa Rosa CA about the AAUW story (I am sure you have a short version ready for your local paper) and how bogus it is, and I will buy you lunch next time I see you.

Steve D.

“I can’t understand why it’s back.”

This is all part of an agenda. Hillary enjoys wide support within the MSM. It is no accident that Lis Wiehl came out with “The 51% Minority” now. There will be more old lies and myths coming back in the coming months. The major election primaries for President are less than a year away. The American pubic has a short memory and attention span. These issues will be emphasized as we get close to the election. Big news stories such as the recent Virginia Tech mayhem will have a female angle (”more women now favor gun control” as was recently reported), and news stories will be created. The Imus story was manufactured by Sharpton and Jackson as they contributed to making it a national story. Imus has said many similar things in the past and not just about black women. He has insulted many groups. He is a moron. But he was used to push an agenda. Then the story took on a female angle and Hillary Clinton pandered to this. Imus was used. More and more of this will happen. News stories more and more will have a female angle to them. They want to agitate the female electorate into voting for a female for President. That is why the lies are coming back. That is why there are, and will be more, female angles to news reporting as we near the election.