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		<title>By: thurston861</title>
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		<dc:creator>thurston861</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 04:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RK - The Judges Prosecutors and LEgislators are all getting pensons off the money from Prison Industry.

Feminists just were an opportunity to stick it to men and get the wealth.

More effective than the IRS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RK &#8211; The Judges Prosecutors and LEgislators are all getting pensons off the money from Prison Industry.</p>
<p>Feminists just were an opportunity to stick it to men and get the wealth.</p>
<p>More effective than the IRS.</p>
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		<title>By: Rinaldo Del Gallo, III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rinaldo Del Gallo, III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me responds to Rogerâ€™s comments.  For the most part, he is right on point.  Family law is great representing woman.   The problem I have had as an attorney that mostly represents fathers, is that they quickly bleed to death with child support payments, and I have a broke client.  I have even had clients who want to hire me but their bank accounts were frozen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me responds to Rogerâ€™s comments.  For the most part, he is right on point.  Family law is great representing woman.   The problem I have had as an attorney that mostly represents fathers, is that they quickly bleed to death with child support payments, and I have a broke client.  I have even had clients who want to hire me but their bank accounts were frozen.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The prior histories of the judges and commissioners are particluarly egregious in Cowlitz, Kitsap, and Spokane Counties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prior histories of the judges and commissioners are particluarly egregious in Cowlitz, Kitsap, and Spokane Counties.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 02:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said this in Marc Rudov&#039;s forum and it bears repeating:

All of you are right, of course.

But in addition is the basic primary incentive of government, which is to expand at the expense of everything else in society, these men who destroy the rights of other men do it because they personally profit from it.

If you are a lawyer, family law practice is the second easiest way to earn a living. The easiest way to earn a living is to work for some bureaucracy for a salary and package of benefits, provided you are not trying to prove defendants committed crimes beyond reasonable doubt.

That is the thing. Having to prove a defendant did something wrong, or trying to prevent the proof that a client did something wrong, is hard work and risky.

We have the 5th and 14th Amendments, and most state constitutions, including language that reads to the effect: â€œno person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of lawâ€. The â€œdue process of lawâ€ has traditionally meant a requirement of proof that the person being deprived

DID SOMETHING WRONG.

That is certainly what it means in criminal cases and in civil cases alleging tort or breach of contract.

But with no-fault divorce, we stripped out the risky due process of law part and went straight to the highly profitable (for lawyers, judges, bureaucracy, agencies, advocates, feminist organizations, etc.) deprivation of liberty and property part. Because the higher the divorce rate, the more money to be made by fleecing the breadwinners, we have the one-sided practice that all but forces any woman in a less than ecstatically perfect relationship to run to the courthouse.

And of course, the more disfunctional families we create by stripping them away from the fathers and destroying the fathers, more messed up children we have growing up to be welfare moms, prison dads, convicted felons, drug addicts, bums begging quarters on the streets, etc. to feed the governmentâ€™s incentive to grow at the expense of everything else in society.

The prison industry, booming.

The police industry, booming.

The drug and alcohol rehab industry, booming.

The psychobabble artist industry, booming.

The homeless advocacy industry, booming.

And of course, welfare bureaucracy, social workers, child support enforcement, divorce litigation, tax funded prosecutors, county jails, are all booming.

And the private companies that benefit from this, and not just Maximus (their first name ought to be Gluteus!). Smith and Wesson not only sells guns, they sell handcuffs. Who do you think their biggest customers are?

Clue, Mistress Nasty Bitch is only a minor account compared to the prisons, police departments, and county sheriffs who get bigger and bigger budgets to handle the consequences of father destroying family law policy.

I can be forgiven for suspecting that such consequences are intended.

And because this is not Marc Rudov&#039;s forum, I offer screaming for the enforcement of the Peonage Law as my proposed solution.

As for documentation of how the impartiality of judges and court commissioners are compromised by their own history as divorce lawyers and family support prosecutors, please see
http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com/justicefiles.htm and click the county links.  You can find lawyers working for salaries for Washington&#039;s Division of Child Support by clicking the DSHS links.  Some of them stiffed their creditors with Chapter 7 bankruptcies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said this in Marc Rudov&#8217;s forum and it bears repeating:</p>
<p>All of you are right, of course.</p>
<p>But in addition is the basic primary incentive of government, which is to expand at the expense of everything else in society, these men who destroy the rights of other men do it because they personally profit from it.</p>
<p>If you are a lawyer, family law practice is the second easiest way to earn a living. The easiest way to earn a living is to work for some bureaucracy for a salary and package of benefits, provided you are not trying to prove defendants committed crimes beyond reasonable doubt.</p>
<p>That is the thing. Having to prove a defendant did something wrong, or trying to prevent the proof that a client did something wrong, is hard work and risky.</p>
<p>We have the 5th and 14th Amendments, and most state constitutions, including language that reads to the effect: â€œno person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of lawâ€. The â€œdue process of lawâ€ has traditionally meant a requirement of proof that the person being deprived</p>
<p>DID SOMETHING WRONG.</p>
<p>That is certainly what it means in criminal cases and in civil cases alleging tort or breach of contract.</p>
<p>But with no-fault divorce, we stripped out the risky due process of law part and went straight to the highly profitable (for lawyers, judges, bureaucracy, agencies, advocates, feminist organizations, etc.) deprivation of liberty and property part. Because the higher the divorce rate, the more money to be made by fleecing the breadwinners, we have the one-sided practice that all but forces any woman in a less than ecstatically perfect relationship to run to the courthouse.</p>
<p>And of course, the more disfunctional families we create by stripping them away from the fathers and destroying the fathers, more messed up children we have growing up to be welfare moms, prison dads, convicted felons, drug addicts, bums begging quarters on the streets, etc. to feed the governmentâ€™s incentive to grow at the expense of everything else in society.</p>
<p>The prison industry, booming.</p>
<p>The police industry, booming.</p>
<p>The drug and alcohol rehab industry, booming.</p>
<p>The psychobabble artist industry, booming.</p>
<p>The homeless advocacy industry, booming.</p>
<p>And of course, welfare bureaucracy, social workers, child support enforcement, divorce litigation, tax funded prosecutors, county jails, are all booming.</p>
<p>And the private companies that benefit from this, and not just Maximus (their first name ought to be Gluteus!). Smith and Wesson not only sells guns, they sell handcuffs. Who do you think their biggest customers are?</p>
<p>Clue, Mistress Nasty Bitch is only a minor account compared to the prisons, police departments, and county sheriffs who get bigger and bigger budgets to handle the consequences of father destroying family law policy.</p>
<p>I can be forgiven for suspecting that such consequences are intended.</p>
<p>And because this is not Marc Rudov&#8217;s forum, I offer screaming for the enforcement of the Peonage Law as my proposed solution.</p>
<p>As for documentation of how the impartiality of judges and court commissioners are compromised by their own history as divorce lawyers and family support prosecutors, please see<br />
<a href="http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com/justicefiles.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com/justicefiles.htm</a> and click the county links.  You can find lawyers working for salaries for Washington&#8217;s Division of Child Support by clicking the DSHS links.  Some of them stiffed their creditors with Chapter 7 bankruptcies!</p>
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		<title>By: Attorneys &#187; Airlines suspend flights to Lanka COLOMBO: Emirates Airlines and Hong</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Attorneys &#187; Arrest in dad&#8217;s murder overshadowed Finally a press conference at</title>
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		<title>By: Attorneys &#187; Third Attorney Appointed in Bikini Murder Tiffany Marie Souers (pictured</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attorneys &#187; Third Attorney Appointed in Bikini Murder Tiffany Marie Souers (pictured</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Rinaldo Del Gallo, III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rinaldo Del Gallo, III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Although she doesnâ€™t advise testing it, Penelope Leach says a healthy newborn has the grip reflex and arm strength to be held suspended by one hand.&quot;

Can you send me an e-mail and let me know where this was said?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although she doesnâ€™t advise testing it, Penelope Leach says a healthy newborn has the grip reflex and arm strength to be held suspended by one hand.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you send me an e-mail and let me know where this was said?</p>
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		<title>By: wls1</title>
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		<dc:creator>wls1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A marriage `contract&#039; is in fact _not_ a contract in the sense of contract law, under family law.

When children are involved, there&#039;s also parens patriae, by which the state claims an interest compelling it under some circumstances to intervene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A marriage `contract&#8217; is in fact _not_ a contract in the sense of contract law, under family law.</p>
<p>When children are involved, there&#8217;s also parens patriae, by which the state claims an interest compelling it under some circumstances to intervene.</p>
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		<title>By: wls1</title>
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		<dc:creator>wls1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Losing it is certainly not to be advised, but probably makes little difference in this type of case: the father isn&#039;t going to get much parenting time no matter what, given the high degree of conflict.   Anything that the mother can invoke---no matter how pristine the father&#039;s conduct something can usually be cooked-up---as a pretext to ratchet-up the conflict is likely to result in reduced, or a termination of, father-time.   The details of what and who don&#039;t really matter: it&#039;s the one stark fact that there&#039;s conflict that determines everything.

Evidently the shaky mother in this Massachusetts case has in the estimation of the court not crossed the line that would qualify her as unfit, so she&#039;s the `better&#039; parent to whom they are committed: it&#039;s all or nothing when it&#039;s sole custody, and once the court takes sides it&#039;s very hard for it to change.


An intense enough impulse can dislocate an arm socket, but children at least used to do one-armed pull-ups and even leap from bar to bar on a jungle-gym, all the time.   Although she doesn&#039;t advise testing it, Penelope Leach says a healthy newborn has the grip reflex and arm strength to be held suspended by one hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Losing it is certainly not to be advised, but probably makes little difference in this type of case: the father isn&#8217;t going to get much parenting time no matter what, given the high degree of conflict.   Anything that the mother can invoke&#8212;no matter how pristine the father&#8217;s conduct something can usually be cooked-up&#8212;as a pretext to ratchet-up the conflict is likely to result in reduced, or a termination of, father-time.   The details of what and who don&#8217;t really matter: it&#8217;s the one stark fact that there&#8217;s conflict that determines everything.</p>
<p>Evidently the shaky mother in this Massachusetts case has in the estimation of the court not crossed the line that would qualify her as unfit, so she&#8217;s the `better&#8217; parent to whom they are committed: it&#8217;s all or nothing when it&#8217;s sole custody, and once the court takes sides it&#8217;s very hard for it to change.</p>
<p>An intense enough impulse can dislocate an arm socket, but children at least used to do one-armed pull-ups and even leap from bar to bar on a jungle-gym, all the time.   Although she doesn&#8217;t advise testing it, Penelope Leach says a healthy newborn has the grip reflex and arm strength to be held suspended by one hand.</p>
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		<title>By: steven deluca</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven deluca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear women point  out that men sometimes shoot judges, or attack ex-wives, or &quot;check out&quot; mentally, emotionally, with booze, or drugs ... as proof that men are &quot;bad&quot; and shouldn&#039;t be permitted to have access to children.  When I know that there are tens of thousands of men who have been &quot;raped&quot; by the system (I know that many women will protest that use of the word rape, but as a man who was sexually abused by a women when I was a boy, as a man who has known other men who were abused sexually by women or men, and as a man who has  seen men who have lost children to unfair courts I an not using the word rape carelessly)

My point is, that with ten thousands of men being raped by ex-wives and the  courts, I ADMIRE the restraint of the  majority of men who haven&#039;t taken the law into their own hands, who haven&#039;t tried to find justice in an unjust system.  

I watched a man fight for custody of his children for a couple of years with a wife who had too many men spending the night and who spent too many days passed out from booze to even take care of the kids.  It took a suprise visit from a social worker seeing the mom passed out with a loaded gun near for them to FINALLY notice that he, unlike her, didn&#039;t do drugs, had a steady job, and didn&#039;t leave loaded guns around, that he was living a reasonable life.  

SD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear women point  out that men sometimes shoot judges, or attack ex-wives, or &#8220;check out&#8221; mentally, emotionally, with booze, or drugs &#8230; as proof that men are &#8220;bad&#8221; and shouldn&#8217;t be permitted to have access to children.  When I know that there are tens of thousands of men who have been &#8220;raped&#8221; by the system (I know that many women will protest that use of the word rape, but as a man who was sexually abused by a women when I was a boy, as a man who has known other men who were abused sexually by women or men, and as a man who has  seen men who have lost children to unfair courts I an not using the word rape carelessly)</p>
<p>My point is, that with ten thousands of men being raped by ex-wives and the  courts, I ADMIRE the restraint of the  majority of men who haven&#8217;t taken the law into their own hands, who haven&#8217;t tried to find justice in an unjust system.  </p>
<p>I watched a man fight for custody of his children for a couple of years with a wife who had too many men spending the night and who spent too many days passed out from booze to even take care of the kids.  It took a suprise visit from a social worker seeing the mom passed out with a loaded gun near for them to FINALLY notice that he, unlike her, didn&#8217;t do drugs, had a steady job, and didn&#8217;t leave loaded guns around, that he was living a reasonable life.  </p>
<p>SD</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Strohm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Strohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rinaldo Del Gallo, III:

You are a lawyer, yes?

You apparently recognize that other lawyers, judges, etc. are engaging in illegal behavior. 

Like the lawyers, judges, radical (demented) feminists (who comprise much of many social institutions), etc. engaging in illegal (as well as immoral) behavior, you say that it is a father (in this case Alec Baldwin) who is the problem (a lawyers&#039;s nightmare). 

Work to bring to justice the errant judges, lawyers, etc. Do not stop until justice returns. 

The marriage contract is either a contract or it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rinaldo Del Gallo, III:</p>
<p>You are a lawyer, yes?</p>
<p>You apparently recognize that other lawyers, judges, etc. are engaging in illegal behavior. </p>
<p>Like the lawyers, judges, radical (demented) feminists (who comprise much of many social institutions), etc. engaging in illegal (as well as immoral) behavior, you say that it is a father (in this case Alec Baldwin) who is the problem (a lawyers&#8217;s nightmare). </p>
<p>Work to bring to justice the errant judges, lawyers, etc. Do not stop until justice returns. </p>
<p>The marriage contract is either a contract or it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike LaSalle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike LaSalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the judicial system involved in the marriage racket anyway? This sort of contract making-and-breaking businesses is too easy, and the fox is far too close to the chickens to be trusted with their &quot;best interest&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the judicial system involved in the marriage racket anyway? This sort of contract making-and-breaking businesses is too easy, and the fox is far too close to the chickens to be trusted with their &#8220;best interest&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
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		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for a man expressing his emotions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for a man expressing his emotions.</p>
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