Marcotte?Fathers? Movement Helps Men ?Continue to Abuse Women Who Are Trying to Escape Their Abuse?
In her recent blog post Bad father, great actor on Alec Baldwin and Parental Alienation, controversial feminist blogger Amanda Marcotte of www.Pandagon.net writes:
“Baldwin is living up to the hint of abusive f*** that we gleaned from his phone message to his daughter. He’s proceeding to live out the MRA (Men’s Rights Advocate) script—passive-aggressively abandoning his job so he can dedicate himself to full-time whining that he doesn’t have the subservient wife and children he feels entitled to and blaming his victims (â€I’m only an ass*** because my ex-wife made me be one,†is the entire theory behind the made-up syndrome “parental alienation syndromeâ€)…Just more evidence of the theory that oppression hurts the oppressors by dehumanizing them—in this case, Baldwin is victimizing himself by being more attached to his sense of male entitlement than he is to his impressive talents as an actor.
“What are [the fathers’ rights movement’s] legitimate issues? That paying child support is unfair unless the recipient is forced to deliver some pussy once a week? That men who beat their wives should have the courts help them continue the abuse after she escapes by enabling non-stop lawsuits? Good luck finding a non-abuser to be its face. Non-abusive men tend to avoid the father’s rights activists, because there’s nothing the FRAs have for men who aren’t eager to find legal ways to continue abuse.
“FRAs want to give men more leeway to pursue illegit grievances. I oppose allowing men to make up reasons to sue their ex-wives repeatedly so that they can continue to abuse women who are trying to escape their abuse.”
I’ve discussed Marcotte’s work on numerous occasions–click here to learn more.
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April 30th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Amanda Marcotte is a internet BULLY.
It is often stated by feminists that the abuser often denies their guilt.
Ain’t it amazing that it is always the focus on male behaviour, yet Amanda totally ignores all the contributing factors that have lead to Alec uttering those three little words, which are now being used by the bullies to condem him.
Amanda engages in esculating her arguement in a deliberate effort to inflame the situation more. This is a technique of a BULLY aimed at enlisting more supporters by hooking people on the emotive level.
Research into the bullying behaviour of females shows that their behaviour is sly and difficult to detect. Telling bad or false stories in one of the techniques.
Feminism may once have been about equality, but it based its approach on using the bullying female bullying techniques.
April 30th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
She has a point. Abusive parents need strict controls placed on access to their children. It’s my understanding this is already in place Where she, and most feminists differ with FRAs is how a parent gets labeled as abusive. To Marcotte and her ilk all it should take is for the mother to cry “foul” to a family court judge, who will step behind the magic curtain of Oz to issue a restraining order, then eventually award custody to the “non-violent” parent.
Excuuusssse me. This is America. Where is due process? How does society balance Constitutional Rights with Best Interests when using a judge that is trained to handle money matters? There needs to be a JURY trial to strip a parent of parental rights or parental access.
Feminists like Marcotte fear a jury trial. They fear the honest opinion of their fellow citizens. They prefer to use judges because judges decisions can be perverted by social pressure. Judges can be influenced through feminist training, half truths and outright lies, like Lenore Weitzman’s lie about gender statrus after divorce.
How many feminist lies like Weitzman’s and the big Super Bowl lie are we going to let the media regurgitate? When are we going to restore due process to our legal system?
Marcotte and her c**t sisters be damned; this is America. It’s time we took it back, restored Justice, and relegated this (IMO)”slut-Princess” to the kitchen and the maternity ward.
April 30th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
She is verbally abusive and offensive – if these words were spoken within a relationship, this would be considered domestic violence?
April 30th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
So that is what the true character of John Edwards looks like?
Gads! Eeek!
Well I am here, and I was not deemed abusive by the Police when the Psychopath did a 911 hang up on me adn cops came in while I was holding my son who was crying and sheilding me from them taking me away.
So I suppose her concrete absolutist child logic has shown itself to be wrong.
I wonder if she knows any married women on the planet she is on?
Tonysprout. Please do not stoop to her level. We are above lost souls as that. They have nothing but bigoted hate mongering women to attract, who we will get later with Misandrc Hate Crimes laws, so don’t sweat it please.
I mean come on tony the slut princess line…geeze don’t insult my girlfriend by raising that thing to my girls level.
Anyway, you think that woman has any familiarity with a Human Penis?
Come on!
April 30th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
That picture at Glenn’s Site is Domestic Terrorism!
Violence Nuthin!
April 30th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
amanda marcotte is a sick and twisted jezebelle..Do you see the way she tries to keep her weak men isolated from fathers rights activists..
were going to see many hysterical rants as these sick feminists toil desperatelly to bail out a sinking ship..
April 30th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
I wander if were going to have something simillar to the nurenburg trials for these femi-nazi.
they certainly need to be held accounteable in some fashion for their swath of destruction…
April 30th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
This Ms Marcotte thingy is a mad utopian feminazi whore, who needs a stay in a lunatic asylum then a lobotomy . The real truth is ;
Warning parental alienation (PA) is the vilest condition imaginable and it can cause severe trauma .My PA episode started after false allegations of child sexual abuse and domestic violence were levelled against me in 2000. I was a loving father of two daughters for the first eight and six years of their early childhood nurturing experience
I was the proudest and happiest man in the world as the biological dad to such beautiful girls then like a bolt of lightening my once stable family unit was obliterated by gender bias feminazi machine of hate.
March 2005
Police to d4j
“ I acknowledge receipt of your letter dated 2 March 2005 detailing alleged false accusations made by your former partner. I appreciate the frustration you feel. However, there is nothing the Police can do as matters currently stand. We investigate complaints of alleged offending not alleged false allegations made in the context of proceedings in the Family Court for the advantage of one party over the other. That is one of the functions of the Family Court; to sift truth from lies.â€
Yours sincerely
However, I cannot find one single custodial, I hate that word non- – custodial tag = sounds like a bloody prisoner and in most cases it might as well be. The mother who always gets the kids – often gets caught out lying in the caring feminazi regime of the civil de -family court. She never gets referred onto to criminal jurisdiction? Oh no – they’re allowed to present vexatious and malicious testimony without accountability, as the courts do not prosecute lying mothers for contempt or perjury in this country. The de – family court just shift the goal posts eh to suit mum -eh! The Government in it’s bias wisdom does not bother with keeping Court statistic’s, without a doubt a simple analysis of the statistic’s, if they did exist, would reveal the prejudice and unlawful gender discrimination that is firmly entrenched into our secret de – family court.
I feel for Mr Baldwin as PA is the new age tragedy for kids and so many dad’s.
I get to spend my sixth birthday alienated from my treasured daughters.
In solidarity – 4 the kids – shine on – lets destroy PA and feminazi bitchs’ together now .
April 30th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
Yes Scott her emotionalistic outburst is great advertisment for us, because it makes no sense, and men will see that…and women.
The ones who do not cahnge will find themselves on trial for Hate Crimes I am sure.
D4J, please stop degrading female dogs. They can be loyal.
You mean to day “Marxist Misandric Sows”
April 30th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
yes thurston..on trial for hate crimes….
im suggesting to my mens group we hold some mock courts for educational purposes…maybee welle get an acknowleged feminist misandrist… and we’lle hold court to see what kind of accountebility for her actions she deserves…
April 30th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Scottkirk construct your charge against Agent Marcotte based upon the Hate Crimes Statutes for Hate of someone or a class due to sex, compile it upon Constitutional Rights vioaltions in that she supports the Violation of their Rights to equal protection under the law, equal protection under the Peonage Statutes and the 13th Amendment, and then launch it here if MLS will give you space.
What better way to put these people’s crimes on display than to publicly charge them.
Their responses will be so PRECIOUS!
April 30th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
thurston..i think its about time you posted youre ideas on
VOX POPULI…
April 30th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
welle hold a moot court right here on MND.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
I just watched an excellent DVD documentary about Fidel Castro from the PBS’ American Experiences series.
You know, the not-quite-yet-dead Cuban dictator. ( I’m a history buff, and especially interested in the history of America’s “backyard…”)
One biographical episode from Fidel’s childhood struck me as a metaphor for feminism.
When Fidel was 15, he was expelled from Cuba’s best private high school because the Jesuit priests running it thought he was dangerous and out-of-control.
They sent adolescent El Jefe back home to his privileged parent’s ranch.
Shortly after being sent home, little Fidel told his mother — “Unless you send me back to school, I will burn your house down.”
His mother understood.
(When Fidel started to nationalize (expropriate) the rich farmer’s lands, his first decree was to exile his mother from her home. Can you say — welcome Freud into the Revolution!)
And the same could be said about Amanda Marcotte’s psychopathic identity.
Amanda is trying rehtorically to exterminate her mother….
It is so obvious.
Except, Fidel is still a kinder and gentler psychopath.
Amanda Marcotte
April 30th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Tony, – “…and relegated this (IMO)â€slut-Princess†to the kitchen and the maternity ward.” You propose breeding from this woman???
Scott, there was a film some years back, ‘Star Chamber’, where a group of legal people got together to put people on trial in absentia, people who had escaped justice through ‘technicality’, and deliver real justice. Our family court is a secretive Star Chamber where injustice has been institutionalised.
It is time for the hate mongers to be put on trial all right but we know that our various Injustice systems are not going to do that. We need a Star Chamber of our own with lethal sanctions.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Amanda Marcotte… would be well advised to find her muse…
and kill her.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:33 pm
amfortas…I will study the case law, if we can find a protocol master of the US. courts to direct our diatribe.
we can hold court on-line…..
April 30th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
Amanda Marcotte criticizes FRA for making gross generalizations and distorting facts.
Yet Marcotte herself makes gross generaliations. she writes
“Fathers’ movement helps men continue to abuse women who are trying to escape their abuse.”
This is out right attempt at manipulation.
Anyway where is the research and by research I mean a valid research study, not some ‘gendered engineered advocate’ piece of propaganda.
A paper that goes where others fear to tread.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Mr. Sacks,
I realise that spotlighting Miss M’s position, in her own words, is essential
to turn over the rocks and expose those that encourage, endorse, and echo her brand of vituperative (hat tip to Mr. O’R) sociopathology at the website you so generously hyperlinked to.
Sadly, I cannot be bothered to attend.
Alas, despite the shills standing by to call in, and despite the logic of her presentation, she sounded adoreable back when it was apparent she would be addressing a national audience-with a gracious invitation to present her essence on your radio show.
I guess repeated national spankings can make one cranky!
April 30th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
SK- IF we can find a realistic argument in current law we can flood the US Attorney’s office and the Office of the Cheif Judge in the Federal District where she lives, with complaints, for we have to tell federal authorities when we know a federal law has been violated, and a Judge must take action when he has knowldge of a violation of law in his jurisdiction.
So the focus is a Hate crime, Hate speech.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
SK- Thank you for your nomination of me to Vox Populi.
I am far too radical, not real even like Marc, DRU, EG, and the like.
I am a Populist Guerilla, and thus far too far to the Right for a voice in the MRM National Rankings.
This week I am doing a Tax Court Petition to confront the Penalty against my Speech, and a Habeas Corpus.
This Summer I will do the Habeas on the Rulings against me for child support that denied me due process of law based upon facts in evidence and recently acknowledged and to how it is htat they interfered wth my parental rights by threat of the Peaonage Act upon me, and drage the State of TN into because they claim they are enforcing the out of state order without Due PRocess of Law under the UISFA which also places them in the Peonage Threatening business.
Habeas is the Most Exceptional Writ and the last stop on the Road for Rights that are being obviously denied by government, especially governments with a motive for placing undue burdens upon you because of federal matching funds.
With this we can project the facts into the face of the Courts and shake the foundations of the Matrix in a head to head battle.
Once you know how to do one, you can help others and make up contingency Writs for future use.
$5 to file
April 30th, 2007 at 8:56 pm
’she should read Irving Stone’s book “Until I Find You” about his sexual abuse by older females. OR, watch the film Antoine Fisher, another boy abused by women sexually who grew up to do what a man rarely does, talk about it. She should go read any state files about child abuse and see how often mothers use babies as ashtrays, … Just another brain washed bitch who is clueless about the damage her gender does, daily to tens of thousands of children, and thousands of men. Must be nice to point at others and pretend it’s your race, or gender, or political party that is vastly superior morally to all others. Wish my grand mother had held her by the head at age three and smothered her with her vagina, many nights, in the dark, telling her not to tell or the devil will get her… might make her lighten up a bit about how perfect females are … compared to, say, men.
(Ya, I kept a lid on it, the best I could, the language and anger I have toward women who abuse children and men was worked out in therapy, until I read some bitch pretending that women are angels and men pigs.)
SD
April 30th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
thurston, you got some good ideas, there!
But my suggestion to the ladies is simpler and prosaic.
If you wish the father of your child to help with the cost of raising the child, then marry him. And make him glad he married you.
If you do this, you will have a happy life and your children are far more likely to grow up to be successful adults.
It is not a matter of which parent earns the bigger paycheck. Male and female are different and complimentary; no need to be divisive.
If you lack the wealth of Bill and Melinda Gates or John Kerry and Teresa Hines, then yes, some fiscal discipline is necessary, and no husband should be required to tell you such an obvious truth. I should not have to tell you that you should scrimp and save when scrimping and saving is necessary, and that you should always go EASY on the credit cards. If the man of your life is screaming at you about the bills, part of his anger is that he has to tell you this at all.
Now Kim Basinger, has had the good fortune of not having to scrimp and save, not having to go easy on the credit cards. She must, like Shirley MacLane, believe in reincarnation, for she has chosen to spend her present life in a vindictive and angry assault on the rights of her man, at the expense of their child and at the expense of American freedoms.
She can always wait until her next life to get on with her life!
I realize some men are terrible tyrants and evil to the core. But most are not, and if they have a wife who makes them happy they are married, they never even raise their voices.
But when the lady insists on being a bitch, it is hard to feel sorry for her even when she shows up at the emergency room with her face all purple and her eyes swollen shut. No excuse for EITHER being a bitch or for the violence. Of course, part of being a bitch often includes forcing the man to act in self defense.
And when a lady runs to the courthouse, in my opinion she assumes FULL responsibility for the children to go with her demand for FULL custody, as surely has the widow whose man died without leaving either estate or life insurance policy. It is hard to feel sorry for the single mom who kicked her husband out of the family with aid of tyrants.
Most fathers abandon their families the way a pirate forced to walk the plank abandoned his ship.
Please forgive me for being fed up with the jackasses who pretend to not know this.
April 30th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Gee Rk, I finally propose direct acton and you back off the Peonage Message.
I feel I am in a dualistic world now.
Wow.
Well the message was to SK anyway.
I do not care if I go at this alone. I ahv been for quite some time and my studies here an elsewhere have helped get me to where I am now.
So I file this stuff and move into the Men’s Mission in Atlanta.
Here I come!
May 1st, 2007 at 12:36 am
thurston, I must apologize, for I did not intend to back off the peonage message. Please pay close attention to this quote from my above post:
“And when a lady runs to the courthouse, in my opinion she assumes FULL responsibility for the children to go with her demand for FULL custody, as surely has the widow whose man died without leaving either estate or life insurance policy.”
Meaning, she has no right to enslave her husband to pay for her choice.
It’s a crime, 18 U.S.C. §1581.
I apologize for not making that sufficiently clear.
May 1st, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Don’t you just want to smack that face? She reminds me of the pampered bitchy teen daughter in the movie Uncle Buck.
May 1st, 2007 at 12:36 pm
If fathers actually got fair treatment in the family courts and the system wasn’t so heavilly stacked against them (with feminist help and encouragement!) – then Marcotte’s whinings and groundless insults could almost be undertsood if not forgiven. Such of course is not the case so JamesH’s remark that Marcotte is an ‘internet bully’ is probably nearer the mark – trouble is the term ‘internet bully’ does not adequately convey the sheer negative maelevolence that she and her kind perpetrate by continually sowing the seeds of hatred against men (esp. fathers) and generally perpetuating a divide between the sexes that is hardly good for all our children or our society in general.
Still there is a catch 22 here because a more suitable term for such a woman (and her kind) would probably be perceived (by the less vigilant) as ‘over the top’ or even ‘uncalled for’ – but other more seasoned observers already KNOW what I am talking about so that will have to suffice….for now!