Psychology Today?Some accidental pregnancies aren?t so accidental—especially if the guy could be a good provider

Four years ago I met a very attractive unmarried gal in her late thirties who was successful and masters level educated. She had two little boys, one no more than six months old. Recently purchased a house in a very nice neighborhood and so forth.

She desribed to me with obvious pride and not the least hint of shame that she had deliberately gotten herself impregnated by the same fellow for both kids, although he was not aware of the deliberate aspect of the situation. She lightheartedly “complained” that even though the father was paying her pretty hefty court-ordered support, he wasn’t really seeing the kids anymore.

But her next statement sent a shiver up my spine as she blurted out with a twinle in her eye and a sly grin, “But that’s the way I really planned it, anyway.”

As you can imagine, I did not pursue this friendship.

I guess it is better than prostitution, produce a child and get a steady stream of income for the next 18 years.

Another way women can use a child to get cash and/or a marriage commitment is to combine the “accidental pregnancy” trick with paternity fraud, i.e combine the “oops” lie with the “it’s your baby” lie.

This method can be used when the man is careful not to get the woman pregnant but she really wants the cash/commitment and will do anything to the man and a child to get it. Sounds really evil but the government is there to help her every step of the way.

It’s all completely legal too, and he can’t even use the fact that the marriage was fraudulent to get it annulled. Her swearing under oath on the paternity affadavit that he is the father means nothing either, because the purpose of that is to get a man, any man, on the hook for child support, and nobody in government cares whether she (ab)uses a child in a fraud and perjury scam or not.

If the man is lucky, she will “allow” him to visit the child after she cashes in, but she’ll probably want to move on to the next sucker, and his “visits” will put a damper on her future fraud, perjury, and entrapment prospects of using another child as the bait. Most likely, he’ll be saying goodbye to the child and pay her for the fraud, or else go to prison. Pay off fraud or go to prison – I call that “choice for men”. It’s the American way now, and it is backed by the full faith and credit of all branches of government, plus the feminists and the Bar A$$ociations.

Continuing…don’t think that her admitting to fraud and perjury will cost her credibility when she uses the “domestic abuse” lie to get rid of the man and make way for the next guy. Remember, in American feminist jurisprudence, women never lie, even if they admit to a history of fraud, perjury, and child abuse for money, or had a completely different story of the same events last week.

The more men she defrauds, the more the government will see to it that she is paid. Why it costs more to raise four children from four different fathers than it does to raise the same four children if they all had the same father I’ll never understand, but that’s how “child support” works. Apparently government thinks women who do this to four different men deserve a higher payoff than if she only did it to one man.

Not to worry though men, because as any woman will tell you, “all women aren’t like that”, so that makes it all ok, right?

The aricle states that 1/3 women lie about using birth control to “hook” a man without discussing it with him.

New Tee Shirt:

1 in 3 women lie about using birth control

Wow! After all these many years as a very PC psychology magazine, PT unearths the discovery that women might intentionally become pregnant without telling the mark–er, man–that’s what she’s doing?

Golly gee whiz! Ya think?

My former brother-in-law became a dad to two lovely twin girls while being assured by mom she was on the pill. He ended up being a good dad to the girls, but he and mom went their own ways.

Here’s a question: if women have the legal right to lie to their children, the man, and the courts about paternity, should women still have the right to give testimony under oath, assume public office, or sign legal documents?

I mean, where does a “woman’s right to lie” end?

Now, I’m not in favor of ending a woman’s right to give testimony in court or assume public office or sign legal documents or vote or whatever–I just want the law to hold women to the same standards of integrity as it holds men.

Is that asking too much?

Women should not be allowed to make false accusations of rape, false accusations of domestic violence, false accusations of paternity.

And, yes, not all women do those things–but all women have the legal right to do so.

El Cid said, “Women should not be allowed to make false accusations of rape, false accusations of domestic violence, false accusations of paternity.”

Not without the full weight of the law coming down on them.

Perjury is a crime, filing a false instrument is a crime, fraud is a crime. All of these and more are crimes….but not if it comes from a woman??

wheresmy40 said:

“Not without the full weight of the law coming down on them.”

Amen, brother, amen.

Of course, we all know that if the law prosecuted women who lied about rape, fewer women could come forward to make rape charges.

If we prosecuted women who lied about DV, fewer women could come forward to file DV charges.

If we proesecuted women who lied about paternity, kids would suffer.

I’ve always found it interesting to note that Roe v Wade was based on a lie–Jane Roe falsely alleged she had been raped to induce sympathy in the judges. Had she not told that lie, the ruling might have been different.

A feminist never met a lie she didn’t like, as long as it benefits her.

The fact is that, in this society under our laws, women effectively control men’s parental rights. It’s true in the “accidental/on-purpose” pregnancy, as Glenn says, but the obverse is also true, though less noticed. Sociology says that most men want to be fathers and to have an active relationship with their children, but my research tells me that 7-10% of all live births are unknown to the father because the mother chooses not to tell him or lies to him about who the father of the child is. She thus denies him the opportunity to bond with his child. If she chooses to place the child for adoption, she denies the true father any opportunity to contest the adoption and gain custody of the child. Obviously, the above notwithstanding, she can also, at any time during the child’s minority, sue for past and future child support.

We are at pains to protect women’s reproductive freedom and the slightest infringement thereon brings the most anguished responses, but we place men’s reproductive rights squarely in the hands of women. In no other area of life or the law do we place one free adult’s rights in the hands of another.

DNA testing is a big step forward. The correct biological parentage of all children should be determined by DNA testing of all children and their putative parents at birth. Fathers’ rights advocates should strenuously demand legislation mandating same.

Beyond that, an effective and safe male birth control pill is absolutley necessary to protect men’s reproductive rights.

I posted this link to an essay which I think is worth reading on this topic over at Glenn’s blog, but it bears repeating here: Conception by Deception, by Tracy Quan.

Until there’s a male pill (don’t hold your breath), education, caution, and self-protection are the best measures — unless you have nothing to lose, of course, and are therefore willing to take whatever terms the individual woman will grant you.

A friend’s sister got pregnant accidently. After three years of dating the boyfriend, he told her that he was accepting an internship (he is a doctor) out of town. A few months before he left, a day they had sex, she forgot to take her pill.

Six weeks ago unmarried, she gave birth to a child. He knows he was duped but he asked her to marry her because it was the best thing to do.

She is beautiful, educated, shops recreationally, about 29 years old.

She calls my friend crying frequently because, though mom went to college and is smart, she did not know how to care for a baby. She was frustrated.

Yes. He sends support money to the mom, but without a government’s family court order.

When I look at feminism’s destructive results, the more I realize how important wisdom (how to live life) is versus education (how smart I am).

Here are some of the choices a woman has when faced with a pregnancy:

abort, with or without telling the father
place for adoption, with or without telling the father
abandon in a safe haven, with or without telling the father
keep the child, with or without telling the father
identify the wrong man as the father
in some states, declare there to be no legal father and put her grandmother, lesbian lover, or any other willing volunteer on the birth certificate in lieu of the father

Here are the choices men have when faced with a pregnancy:

If a woman you are dating ever says “I went off my birth control because I just wanted to see if everything is still working…”

RUN!

( I didn’t …)

Hence, my MND label.

It is indeed ironic to realize that the mistakes you make in life may produce your greatest unexpected gifts….

Sometimes being unintentional is the best mode of retroactive logic….

ROE V WADE was not a rape case: its whole point is abortion `on demand.’

Although `Roe’ did initially claim rape when her pregnancy became evident in order to save face, I believe that ruse was long disproven by the time the case went to the high court, which at any rate didn’t consider it in reaching its decision.

There is no state in which a mother can simply “declare there to be no legal father” unless the conception was artificially induced by a physician, although there are various avenues for subterfuge that too often allows that aim to be accomplished. One of the main problems is that many men believe the sort of BS being posted here by which they have fewer rights and less legal recourse than they actually have. Sometimes you have to get off your ass and stand up for yourself.

Rather than emphasize prosecution for false claims, etc., we ought to be campaigning for reforms that will remove the incentives to lie, and correct laws and policies that facilitate perfidy and deceit as `legitimate’ means to self-serving, predatory ends.

PT discovered that women lie about sex (birthcontrol, pregnancy, etc). Wow. This is right up there with Time discovering men and women are different. Yawn.

To DW”2″G’s: fool me once……