Sk, sadly David Usher is a diseased mind that comes from a long line of obviously diseased minds.

Yeshua (AKA Jesus) taught us to look at the fruits.

I did and gave my report while he censored my collection of facts to prove my point and he ran like the little Fascist he is.

He is just going to waste people’s time right now asking the State for our Rights and not denouncing Statist Marriage as the Toxic time bomb that has maimed so many of us here.

Lacking time, I will give no patience to those who project themselves as knowledgable but are not.

They get one shot to correct themselves and be thoughtful if they purport to be a leader.

I did this in the Tax Movement when I called down the Shills and Opportunists building their Empires, and time proved me correct on the Two at the Top as they tried to project things forward.

They acted just like David. Intellectually dishonest and diseased. (Pathetic)

It will not matter what minor wins that I did not have him to be thankful to David for 5 years ago when I got pushed through the grinder.

Laws do not matter to Judges that ignore the Organic Law of the United States of America.

Constructive Defiance… is what we need to be doing and I will make in 5 years this be a larger problem of national attention than he did in the prior 19 years.

If I stay out of Prison.

Meanwhile I have Rule 60(b) void judgment Motions to work on, then the Habeas Corpus.

The Mens Movement is missing a big puzzle piece until it recognizes unalienable Rights that have been trampled by a Corrupt Court System that was supposed to PROTECT and DEFEND those Rights.

Constructive Defiance will be RESISTENCE at every level, and non violent.

were men here, not hysterical, loose canons, taking shots at good men like david usher…he’s done more allready for mens/boys/fathers rights than most will dare to do in their lifetime..and he’s just getting warmed up..

It was his conclusion not mine.

It goes to indictment of credibilty so that modern women can be quickly shown that without men or even the devluation of men at the ballo box has lead to the destruction of their hope in the only truly fulfilling thing their hearts can desire.

It lends to CREDIBILITY as to who truly cares about them and is on their side and the exposure of the insanity of Women’s movements.

If that is not important then the struggle never ends as I told you because we have to argue one point at a time as the fem media creates the issue with them.

Men have less and less time.

Drop the Bomb on the truth of their track record and move on.

We have legitimate Nation building to do and I have a son and daughter out there who deserve a nation of law I was sold.

This is the Men’s Movement, so I approached it from that angle.

Last time I Lead people in a movement it took 5 years to get a response from government to take action that continues to this day,.. to enjoin the speech of individuals and FEDERALLY adjudicated First Amendment groups to keep people for opening up the law books and reading the law in light of its History and their Fundamental Rights.

In a nation where your Legislature does nothing or colludes with the Executive to Order you to be ignorant of the Law and your Fundamental Rights, there is no place to hide.

Clearly from all the damaged and hurting Men here, the extent that the assumption of Congressional Jurisdiction to violate the Organic Law of the Land knows no bounds whatsoever.

Men need Women to have families and rebuild with. The sooner we show how silly, insane, and miserable living in that house is, the sooner they join us and reject disessed thought, and then we both take back our Birth Right, FAMILY and a NATION OF LAWS with a Limited and accountable government.

So flip the selector switch and punch a hole in that one AM, I’ll throw down with you

This is getting daft. We have a franchise for all adult citizens. You seek to restrict it to just men. Well let’s look at that.

50% of men are of 100 IQ or below. ie: thick as two short planks.

Of the 50% no quite so thick, around half vote for lying nig-nogs.

Of the 25% that don’t vote for lying nig-nogs, half don’t vote for anyone (like me, they say a Pox on all their houses) as even the non-nig-nogs lie like Dicky Mint trim sheets.

Of the 12 1/2% left who do vote, 2% are sociopaths, 4% are so uneducated that they can barely read anything beyond comics, 3% wear their sisters’ clothes (actually 12% in the USA and 17% in NZ but many are in the other categories too) , and another 3% are pissed out of their brains at any time.

That leaves just 1/2 of one percent to vote for someone reasonable, such as me, were I to be called to Stand for President, and most of them are glued to the television watching the friggin’ ‘game’.

Is it surprising that the women’s vote is needed. There are fewer pissed or watching the game or wearing their bothers’ clothes.

His only response could have been that the 10th Amendment gave our Parental Rights to the State, but we know that parental rights have been well adjudicated to belong to the parents since the adoption of the Bill of Rights in 1787.

So, he would have hung himself yet again.

My vison, and obviously around here as well, does not matter in respect to reality.

Reality dictates that the State is not going to wake up tomorrow and say “we voluntarily renounce…”

Reality dictates that it is going to take many years to get 50 States to come to grips with the ills that its involvement has created. So Mr. Usher will be riding the gravy train for life.

What reality does not have to dictate is Men and Women having a realtionship where this issue IS TALKED ABOUT (unlike here where it is censored by David Usher) like Bitch and I have when I have read to her this back and fourth today, which she finds most fascinating (and gets her motor going by the way).

Men and Women actually finding compatibility on the hardest issues to make agreements outside of the State and keep them because they value one another over the State. This is what I understand is part of EG’s ideas about a spiritual solution. (This is what David says he wants too but he wants to work with the State and offer a materialistic solution.)

Now, in light of Lawrence v. Kansas, and my relationship with Bitch being so open, frank, honest, her love of people, I can have more than one wife. (Interesting how she suggested this.)

In an optimum situation we (REAL FREE PEOPLE) procreate like Mormons and take the nation back.

Just the conversation on this alone will help a man weed out a diseased woman, which is no loss in light of the damage teh Hazardous Substance can Yeild.

So back to vison… In light of what Men face by any subjugation to the State, and judging the drive to procreate being central to our being (Not to mention a commandment of G-D HIMSELF), I cannot see how any man who chooses a functional relationship can make any other choice than to Confederate with her without Statist/Fascist intervention.

As far as I can see Right Now, healthy logic dictates it. (This is where my sparks would eventually fly between Mr. Usher and I had he not run away.)

The next problem is KEEPING the STATE OUT.

That seems to be easily handled by in the States eyes cohabitating with more than one woman, so the state cannot declare a Common law marriage without violating the bigomy laws.

Either way the State is going to get dragged into polygomy kicking and screaming, David Usher being in the front screaming blasphemies coupled with my name.

Additonally, never seeking welfare, which means accepting the risks inherent in life, working together, to be together. Trusting G-D not government…more spiritual solution and a rejection of materialism.

(I am sure someone is going to imagine me as a Hppy type on that, but they have not been hurt enough to understand the deeper point of not being in service to things.)

The final/first stage (depending on how you examine this) is the large number of Men reaching the point of the Marraige strike understanding the enemy of the Statist Marriage, talking about it to Women, and beginning relationships that address the True Hearts of Real Women, that spiritual fulfillmetn that Men bring to their life that Feminism is trying to fill with materialism and sexual permissivnesss that is ironically making women sluts for easy guys.

So it is still all about Real Men being the Real solution, not just for us, but for Women’s Hearts and Souls (like that being deep in Bitch that makes her say WOW deep inside when she sees me or hears my voice).

If I found this woman, then to Mr. Ushers credit, Men can find non-diseased women out there. That is what the MSDS was all about. Does she value People, or things?

Women who are given everything they desire do not care about People. They only see themselves. That is just the first step in the test for Active Instability, or generally Intert nature.

As numbers of these confederates grow, the pressure in Society builds against teh Statist system. It is kind of like having a copeting monetary system, a secondary culture.

Those dissatisfied with the establishment flock to the one that gives sanity and actual benefits. Dead culture dies and a new one emerges.

Now enough of these couples together they can draw the men together to make a adjudicatory counsel to help all of the relationships thrive and flourish, settle disputes within the terms of the realtionships as agreed upon when entered.

Hopefully, a close group of friends who trust and value one another can pay attention, be mindful of one another, and address things before a festering issue occurs and avert Ecclisiastical Counsels (so to speak).

The idea requires that people be in touch with one another again.

Imagine that.

You also see the State the way I see it: both powerful and powerless. They can punish men who don’t support their children, but they cannot successfully support a single child.

Do you see that we simply cannot ask the State to act against it wishes? I think we’re in agreement here. The State simply must deem a man responsible for a child, even if said child isn’t his, because the State cannot raise a child.

But, in all of this, do you want what I seem to want? A voluntary renunciation of State involvement in marriages? I picture a world where men and women have relationships, yet the State cannot intervene in these relationships, because the man and woman have voluntarily opted out of State interference. Is that your vision?

Especially at MND know to be a rather radical place?

Because it shows that David Usher is a Shill, and now everyone can see he is a censor too.

Hope Men remember this week and never give him the time of day again.

Men deserve a leader that does not deny the root of their problem.

He is disgusting.

Yet he defends their right to vote.

Diseased is what Diseased says.

Take this you Fascist.

Mr. Usher. Your logic is diseased.

40 Years is no justification in the scheme of Polluted and Delusional societies.

Jonah was sent to Nineveh who repented and was spared. Yet, 40 years later, it is taught, that the City of
Nineveh had forgotten its reprieve and was destroyed.

In the writings of Orthodox Rabbi Marvin Antleman’s “To Eliminate the Opiate” it is revealed that in Germany in the 1860’s a Rabbi declared that the blasphemy of Reformed Judaism rejecting the Divine authorship of Torah would bring a Holocaust.

That took 70 years to reach fruition after a vast majority of European Jewry subsequently fell for the lie of Humanism in the form of Communism.

The facts of History and the formula of Societal breakdown destroy your justification for your position and censorship.

Even Jefferson stated Revolution was necessary every 20 years. Logically that is keep a generation of people from never knowing what the point and purpose of governmental functions for the preservation of Society truly are, because everyone would always know sometime when they were in fact free.

You deny History.

You deny the Bible.

You deny the timeline that governs phenomena of Societal corruption is 40 years and beyond, which disproves the foundation of your justification.

Now you will censor me.

The fruit does not fall far from the tree does it Mr. Usher. Not far from your Grandmother who let these murderers into our homes.

40 years of a voting record is nothing. Especially in the face of the U.S. Supreme Court case of Buck v. Bell which allowed the Commonwealth of VA to sterilize wards of the State. Never overturned, and used by the Nazi’s for justification of their eugenics program.

Your Grandmother and her cronies knew the enemies were at the gate. She and her friends disbanded after opening the door for the Eugenics philosophy of the Sangerites to infect the Courts for Buck v. Bell, infecting the Academics and Intelligencia about 30 years before Women could be educated into it in vast enough numbers to effect an impact in the 1960‘s.

So it is only when the infection is rampant that you will admit that there was a disease?

So you deny that there is any moral culpability in destroying the order of things?

That is insane.

You sir have proved that in the end you are not fit to lead, neither by intelligence, nor by pedigree being a descendent of a Traitor.

Finally, to save yourself embarrassment, you show you are an enemy of the People as you press Statist Marriage as well as censor me to keep others from seeing the truth about you and your sacred Cow

You sir are a Fascist

There is no joy is saying that, only sad disgust.

You have done well in cutting short my further investment here by cutting directly to the chase and revealing once and for all your diseased logic.

Until you repent, you are part of the disease, and Will Malven is more qualified to lead than you are.

greater explanation of my intent here

I prefer my Truth Straight, clear with no disguises. That is why I like you. You keep that Mercucio delivery, and the truth is not lost.

I am the gentleman Am, and I am not tired, just have a lot to do, and the issue would not leave me until I had the answer. (Too many people hurting, and nothing here but a spin cycle. There was an answer somewhere in here.)

I have nothing against Sacks, even less now with Will (never had a problem with his overall idea, he just could not get a consistent set of precedent)but Usher was one of those all too familiar Weasles, his picture never made sense. Now I know the truth. Like the story of the Frog and the Scorpion, he is what he is, like a Woman, its his Nature.

If you do not see it, well it will not keep me from buying you a round.

Name calling?

Get real Am! Drink up!…if you cannot put the historical pieces of the puzzle together you have every right to live out the rest of your life here. But I will call Treason Treason, and according to Churchill’s Reading of the Magna Carta, the whole family is to be put.

Me, I am looking for “Movement” not rehash trying to convince someone in office to legislate my Rights which they have no business touching to begin with.

I am looking more for what was done to Saul, the Chairman of the MI GOP this past week when he was spreading a Petition to keep Ron Paul from the Republican Debates.

He got a clear message from not just large numbers of People, but very powerful Political People in the State that if he wanted a Party he would withdraw from his petition.

Effectively, he had his head handed to him on a plate. He withdrew.

Guliani, had hs scrotum handed to him by Ron Paul the other night, cause Heir Rudi has no clue about World Affiars short of carrying Water for the Saudis and the American Union.

That is what you witnessed here tonight. It all happened kind of suddenly, but in the end I knew that everyone especially me would be better for it.

The truth hurts, so “…for what we are about to receive may be truly be thankful.”

I just put the pieces together, and he ranted, raged, threatened, and ran off refusing to address the substance of the question.

We call such people Politicians. Politicians make Slaves. Statesmen make Men.

Me. if it were me, I would just post things, take the lumps and learn from the people who have enough of a clue and fortitue of will to engage me and sharpen me.

David is not one of those. He is an Empire Builder. A user of Men. He will waste people forever for his ego.

You AM, you are my Brother. I have no Right to your sweat and blood, thankful for your words of wisdom and jocularity. Your words helped me a whole lot this past Dec. Jan. as I adjusted to this new phase of my life trying to find answers about what I could have done differently. EG delivered the actual liberating message.

Me, I am a forensic Historian/Archeologist/Analyst/Engineer.

I will take the airline disaster and put pieces together until I find out what is missing out of place and what happened to keep from getting fooled again.

This time, it all was deliverd on a silver platter in a matter of hours. A little piece from here, a whole bunch of pieces from there

David gave me ALL the ammo, Denise, the Confirmation of Character through Association.

Then he proved all of my wild suspicions correct.

(Read most of this to Bitch, she can’t believe the guy folded so easy.)

This struggle is not unlike a debate. The men like Sacks and others have consistently handed Men the facts in my #10 above, which prove as David had to agree, that we have every means to support a statement to Women that Women’s groups have done nothing but create larger injustice and misery for Women by devaluing Men to Second Class Citizens.

(Thank SK for sending me out on this quest.)

That the Women’s movement that has really objectified Men, de-humanized them.

Now whether or not they are projecting their own problems on men or creating a problem that doex not exist are good but seperate issues. The real issue it that two wrongs can never justify their unequal Rights.

If Men can never say that with certainty with knowledge of History and Credible Leadership bringing them valid Resarch, then Women will never have reason to abandon the Feminist Camp.

(Kind of Like EG saying ‘Look in the Mirror, say I’m a Man and keep saying it until your comfortable.”)

If my Brothers continue to be given false hope in the Statist Marraige System, and do not indict the Courts and their UnConstitutional behavior along with the twisted laws Women are using, we will never get women to our side to review the Meaning of Marriage, and stand with us against Courts that will soon be plundering them equally, as soon as new prisons are built.

Is the truth getting tiresome Am?

Keep drinking and do not come back here, even if I am not here. Because this will be the same thing until the Root of the Cancer is allowed to be publicly identified and Men empowered to intellectually excise it. (Find Comedian Myq Kaplan on myspace, his routine inspired some of this as well, specfically the prediction that David would run for the Right to Vote)

For those who stay here…the unelected leadership and spokesmen will label you a Nut if you stand against the Statist Marriage License and question the Value of the Women’s Vote despite absolute Societal Disasters from Prohibition to Present.

Does not sound like much of a Movement to me.

Don’t forget to occasionally lick the hands of your Slavemasters. I hear they really like that. I think it has something to do with lust for power in a diseased mind.

It is time you had a good lie down and then try to be a nice gentleman. That, and turn your wit and anger against real femonazis instead of seeing Usher and Sacks as turncoats and traitors and doing all this name calling. It is getting tiresome, buddy.

I went forward with some well posed questions to the person here I had the greatest respect for.

He returned with a history lesson and avoided the criteria of the questions.

I learned something from, of all People, Denise! Regarding this so-called leaders association with someone else I had admiration for. It was not flattering. It was eye opening and disappointing, and conincided with the admissions of the so-called Leader.

So like Ron Paul I pointed out History. And he cried Foul and threatened specific censorship, and then shut the whole thing down.

I have made enough comments with specificity.

I have a Moral duty and obligation to tell you if the Enemy is in the Gates.

SK, I had hoped Homer’s thesis as you shared was wrong.

It was more right than I wanted to believe.

I really wish I had missed something and could be directly corrected.

It was not to be.

SK – you are so Right. Right as the Bible on this one.

The struggle is part of our curse, for diseased choices.

What women want? When left to themselves with no discipline, they want everything.

I got banned by David Usher who is a Fascist, and Shill for the Marxists.

I was making comment and found it was closed.

So I make this final input to David’s avoidance of our Need for Real Leadership.

Am – There is no other direction to go than the return of our Rights and a Righteous Rule of Law.

Thus spending time and treasure on more legislation does not make government and court release that which they have no right to steal.

There is no other direction in conflict than direct confrontation of a massive histroy of diseased thought of the Women’s Movements, which Davd reavealed that ALL of them are frauds and ruses, Feminists today to the Temperance Movement of the Past.

Make the Point of the facts and the disasters they have caused for Women, without exception, as they look at their Daughters dance on Girls Gone Wild.

True Leadership does not deny the obvious and send you to far away places to do work that amounts to nothng.

Evil often comes as an Angel of Light.

Poison would not be consumed if in its Raw form.

In the consideration of sources and individuals, look at their Family and Associations.

Only simpletons and commoners do not follow that Rule taught by the Master that good trees bear good fruit and bad trees bear bad fruit. One cannot produce the fruit of the other.

I did not want Mr. Usher to prove my suspicions right, but he did.

Thankfully he went directly to action and threats of censorship when he could have tasked me to harass him for a couple of months to get the answer.

G-D is merciful that I need not take much time with him jsut to get him exposed.

At its core, it really comes right back to the “she was asking for it…” cliche argument, right?

In so many scenarios — She dressed like a slut, acted like a slut, and then got accepted by a man on the basis of her masquerade as a sex-commodity.

Then, after the evil patriarchal consumation of her drama, she claimed that she was a virtuous women “just pretending…”

This connects very obviously with the Ideology of Feminism and the cheap imitation, defunct-but-useful Code of Chivalry. (The former is far more developed intellectually than the latter…)

The raunch culture analysis (Google Ariel Levy) posits that women have accepted a false notion of power … basically that “liberation” requires women to be as sexually promiscuous and indiscrete as men. (That’s also a false premise, but too tangential for this post.) Bad girls are wanna-be men.

So, it would be “useful” (a stupid male obsession) if modern post-feminist women might “define” (oh crap … another misogynist notion!) what GENDER-FREEDOM might actually mean?

Back to Freud’s confession — “I spent my life seeking to understand what women want, and failed.”

Apparently the feminine mystique retains its power, in perpetuity?