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	<title>Comments on: Koko the gorilla and sexual harrassment</title>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-69448</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anyone bothered to think that gorillas in the wild have a hierarchy even where the females are concerned...the females groom those ape breasts and genitalia for one another. It would not be uncommon for a gorilla to want to inspect the other females in the group if she felt dominant...in a case like kokos she is being taught by a male she probably looks at like a mate that has other females around.. because she has been taught to communicate and understands whats she&#039;s communicating with humans she is also curious about the differences between herself and the other females in the group.while she semi understands she is different I doubt she knows how to separate her more group like instinct to be a mature mating female in the only group she knows from her taught human traits. She may well be asking for displays of respect from the other females in the group. Apes have a tendency to weed out the weaklings in their breeding communities. Koko may well be attempting to do that to keep doc all to herself or figure out whats wrong with her own self because doc isn&#039;t trying to mate with her. Stranger attachments have formed and those kinds of things are what happens when you mess with mother nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anyone bothered to think that gorillas in the wild have a hierarchy even where the females are concerned&#8230;the females groom those ape breasts and genitalia for one another. It would not be uncommon for a gorilla to want to inspect the other females in the group if she felt dominant&#8230;in a case like kokos she is being taught by a male she probably looks at like a mate that has other females around.. because she has been taught to communicate and understands whats she&#8217;s communicating with humans she is also curious about the differences between herself and the other females in the group.while she semi understands she is different I doubt she knows how to separate her more group like instinct to be a mature mating female in the only group she knows from her taught human traits. She may well be asking for displays of respect from the other females in the group. Apes have a tendency to weed out the weaklings in their breeding communities. Koko may well be attempting to do that to keep doc all to herself or figure out whats wrong with her own self because doc isn&#8217;t trying to mate with her. Stranger attachments have formed and those kinds of things are what happens when you mess with mother nature.</p>
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		<title>By: elizaskinner.net - the jambox &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gorillas/Women (Pt. 2)</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41624</link>
		<dc:creator>elizaskinner.net - the jambox &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gorillas/Women (Pt. 2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 14:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sadly, as a result of Koko&#8217;s unchecked nipple obsession, Penny and Koko (ok, the Gorilla Foundation) were sued for sexual harrassment. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sadly, as a result of Koko&#8217;s unchecked nipple obsession, Penny and Koko (ok, the Gorilla Foundation) were sued for sexual harrassment. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Naked Circus - Weekly World Nudes &#187; Will Sexual Harassment Panda Please Give Koko the Gorilla a Hand?</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41597</link>
		<dc:creator>Naked Circus - Weekly World Nudes &#187; Will Sexual Harassment Panda Please Give Koko the Gorilla a Hand?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 05:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Courtesy of Men&#8217;s News Daily [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Courtesy of Men&#8217;s News Daily [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thurston861</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41522</link>
		<dc:creator>thurston861</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 16:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! The Ape instinctively knew that these women had had their Feminity Educated out of them in college, and upon meeting them wanted to first remind them of the fact that they must first face the actual reality of their Feminity?

Maybe they did not look Feminin enough for her and she wanted proof?

Even an Ape can see there is a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! The Ape instinctively knew that these women had had their Feminity Educated out of them in college, and upon meeting them wanted to first remind them of the fact that they must first face the actual reality of their Feminity?</p>
<p>Maybe they did not look Feminin enough for her and she wanted proof?</p>
<p>Even an Ape can see there is a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: MartianBachelor</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41516</link>
		<dc:creator>MartianBachelor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 15:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who ever thought a career in primate studies would leading to stripping?  What a bizarre story...

Any idea why they didn&#039;t use some anatomically correct stand-in for a real person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who ever thought a career in primate studies would leading to stripping?  What a bizarre story&#8230;</p>
<p>Any idea why they didn&#8217;t use some anatomically correct stand-in for a real person?</p>
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		<title>By: conservativation</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41391</link>
		<dc:creator>conservativation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 21:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silverback has moved beyond signing...impressive.

I was wondering, if I called myself KoKo, could I get nipple flashes, and without Mardi Gras beads? To be clear, I&#039;ll ask my wife, rest of ya keep the shirts on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silverback has moved beyond signing&#8230;impressive.</p>
<p>I was wondering, if I called myself KoKo, could I get nipple flashes, and without Mardi Gras beads? To be clear, I&#8217;ll ask my wife, rest of ya keep the shirts on.</p>
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		<title>By: Silverback</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41377</link>
		<dc:creator>Silverback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 18:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was not there at the time of the alleged incident though I can say it was asked or suggested of women working and visiting Gorilla foundation to show Koko their nipples. Anyone from there stating it was not is either lying or ignorant to what went on at the research facility. Most of the office workers weren&#039;t in the area of the gorillas or worked at a different location, and that includes the person that was quoted as saying â€œSimply stated, Koko does not have a nipple fetish and no employee of the Foundation has ever been asked or expected to expose their breasts to Koko. Any suggestion to the contrary is false.â€

That statement, if  quoted correct, is absolutely false. If the author of this piece likes, you can email me privately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not there at the time of the alleged incident though I can say it was asked or suggested of women working and visiting Gorilla foundation to show Koko their nipples. Anyone from there stating it was not is either lying or ignorant to what went on at the research facility. Most of the office workers weren&#8217;t in the area of the gorillas or worked at a different location, and that includes the person that was quoted as saying â€œSimply stated, Koko does not have a nipple fetish and no employee of the Foundation has ever been asked or expected to expose their breasts to Koko. Any suggestion to the contrary is false.â€</p>
<p>That statement, if  quoted correct, is absolutely false. If the author of this piece likes, you can email me privately.</p>
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		<title>By: conservativation</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41356</link>
		<dc:creator>conservativation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 14:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daylight.....I blew a horrible joke even</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daylight&#8230;..I blew a horrible joke even</p>
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		<title>By: conservativation</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41355</link>
		<dc:creator>conservativation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 14:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Day come and me read this tome.....DO NOT show her a banana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day come and me read this tome&#8230;..DO NOT show her a banana</p>
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		<title>By: scottkirk</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41350</link>
		<dc:creator>scottkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 12:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im doing a piece right now on how certain police jurisdictions manipulate false rape accussations to keep the number of false reports as low as possible..because of pressure from womens groups, and the domestic abuse &quot;funding industries&quot;.
  I interviewed a women who ran the local sex crimes unit here in b.town
and she claimed the percentage of false reports is 1/2 of 1 percent.
I asked how she came up with them numbers because i&#039;m reading about police precints that deliberatelly re-define what a false accussation in order to give a skewed idea to the publick that false rape accussations simply don&#039;t happen .
boy i hit a nerve with her..she got very defensive...wouldn&#039;t give me any more info, and started to walk away..
  As she was walking away, I said men and boys are getting their civil rights violated by these false, inflamatory, and incendiary, mis-leading, deliberate mis-information about the actual numbers of false rape accussations. And she said nothing, and walked away...

  So either these deliberate lies about the actual numbers of false accussations are to protect future rape complainants...(which is the feminist position, but I believe is simply non-linear logic) or its incendiary mis-information thats is promoteing a culture of hate against men/boys..to the point where men no longer get equal protection under the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im doing a piece right now on how certain police jurisdictions manipulate false rape accussations to keep the number of false reports as low as possible..because of pressure from womens groups, and the domestic abuse &#8220;funding industries&#8221;.<br />
  I interviewed a women who ran the local sex crimes unit here in b.town<br />
and she claimed the percentage of false reports is 1/2 of 1 percent.<br />
I asked how she came up with them numbers because i&#8217;m reading about police precints that deliberatelly re-define what a false accussation in order to give a skewed idea to the publick that false rape accussations simply don&#8217;t happen .<br />
boy i hit a nerve with her..she got very defensive&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t give me any more info, and started to walk away..<br />
  As she was walking away, I said men and boys are getting their civil rights violated by these false, inflamatory, and incendiary, mis-leading, deliberate mis-information about the actual numbers of false rape accussations. And she said nothing, and walked away&#8230;</p>
<p>  So either these deliberate lies about the actual numbers of false accussations are to protect future rape complainants&#8230;(which is the feminist position, but I believe is simply non-linear logic) or its incendiary mis-information thats is promoteing a culture of hate against men/boys..to the point where men no longer get equal protection under the law.</p>
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		<title>By: radio relay</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41349</link>
		<dc:creator>radio relay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 12:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A ground breaking moment. Thank God!!!! Finally, I now have legal precident to sue the neighbor&#039;s leg humping poodle!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A ground breaking moment. Thank God!!!! Finally, I now have legal precident to sue the neighbor&#8217;s leg humping poodle!!</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41343</link>
		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 11:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I showed my John Thomas to a lady gorilla I doubt it would inspire trust!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I showed my John Thomas to a lady gorilla I doubt it would inspire trust!!</p>
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		<title>By: Denise Noe</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41341</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise Noe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 10:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amfortas said,

Women making false accusations against a gorilla? Is this what Lorraine Slater is suggesting? Get the NOW guerrillas on her case! How dare a women be accused of making a false allegation. No such thing is possible, shirley? What a situation. A female asks another couple of females to expose themselves to a third female.

And no man to blame? !!

(Denise) Yes, amfortas, all the players in this drama are female.  That is not unprecedented as I&#039;ve heard of female-on-female sexual harassment cases before and have even been sexually harassed by two females at different times myself.
When I first told one of the men I quoted that there was a sexual harassment lawsuit against the Gorilla Foundation, he automatically responded, &quot;You mean they&#039;re accusing male employees at the Gorilla Foundation of harassing them, right? Surely they&#039;re not accusing the gorillas of harassing them!&quot;  I explained the allegations and he responded with the quote above about how he might have  exposed himself if he thought it might build a bond of trust with the animal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amfortas said,</p>
<p>Women making false accusations against a gorilla? Is this what Lorraine Slater is suggesting? Get the NOW guerrillas on her case! How dare a women be accused of making a false allegation. No such thing is possible, shirley? What a situation. A female asks another couple of females to expose themselves to a third female.</p>
<p>And no man to blame? !!</p>
<p>(Denise) Yes, amfortas, all the players in this drama are female.  That is not unprecedented as I&#8217;ve heard of female-on-female sexual harassment cases before and have even been sexually harassed by two females at different times myself.<br />
When I first told one of the men I quoted that there was a sexual harassment lawsuit against the Gorilla Foundation, he automatically responded, &#8220;You mean they&#8217;re accusing male employees at the Gorilla Foundation of harassing them, right? Surely they&#8217;re not accusing the gorillas of harassing them!&#8221;  I explained the allegations and he responded with the quote above about how he might have  exposed himself if he thought it might build a bond of trust with the animal.</p>
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		<title>By: amfortas</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/05/20/koko-the-gorilla-and-sexual-harrassment/comment-page-1/#comment-41334</link>
		<dc:creator>amfortas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 09:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women making false accusations against a gorilla? Is this what Lorraine Slater is suggesting?  Get the NOW guerrillas on her case! How dare a women be accused of making a false allegation. No such thing is possible, shirley? What a situation. A female asks another couple of females to expose themselves to a third female.

And no man to blame? !! 

Gaaaaarn. There are raw prawns prancing around in the Gorilla Foundation.

What a lot of hysterical poppycock (if you will excuse the term. No offence meant. Please don&#039;t sue me. Or maybe I shall have to countersue for this being an unsafe blog viewing!).

Then there is the other outrageous claim: &quot;the well-known gorilla who was the first of her species (although not the first simian) to learn a human language.&quot; 

Is that what it is called. Grasping the rudiments at about the level of the average womyn&#039;s studies undergraduate. Ok, point taken. 

And not a skerrick of a hint of a sign of the famed fantasy of women&#039;s superb communication skills, empathy, or conflict resolution. I see the women weren&#039;t asked to show their tits while chewing gum at the same time as multi-tasking is nowhere in sight either.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women making false accusations against a gorilla? Is this what Lorraine Slater is suggesting?  Get the NOW guerrillas on her case! How dare a women be accused of making a false allegation. No such thing is possible, shirley? What a situation. A female asks another couple of females to expose themselves to a third female.</p>
<p>And no man to blame? !! </p>
<p>Gaaaaarn. There are raw prawns prancing around in the Gorilla Foundation.</p>
<p>What a lot of hysterical poppycock (if you will excuse the term. No offence meant. Please don&#8217;t sue me. Or maybe I shall have to countersue for this being an unsafe blog viewing!).</p>
<p>Then there is the other outrageous claim: &#8220;the well-known gorilla who was the first of her species (although not the first simian) to learn a human language.&#8221; </p>
<p>Is that what it is called. Grasping the rudiments at about the level of the average womyn&#8217;s studies undergraduate. Ok, point taken. </p>
<p>And not a skerrick of a hint of a sign of the famed fantasy of women&#8217;s superb communication skills, empathy, or conflict resolution. I see the women weren&#8217;t asked to show their tits while chewing gum at the same time as multi-tasking is nowhere in sight either.</p>
<p> <img src='http://mensnewsdaily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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