Texas Mother Murders Her 3 Children–and It’s Ex-Boyfriend’s Fault?!

Wednesday, May 30, 2007
By Glenn Sacks

Gilberta Estrada hung her four small daughters, three of whom died–and it’s her ex-boyfriend’s fault?! For example, Christian Newswire just issued the press release “Victim of Domestic Violence Hangs Self and Four Daughters” in which they claim:

“Domestic Violence is a destroyer. It is believed that Gilberta Estrada hanged herself-after hanging her four young daughters first. A police investigation hopes to confirm the tragic facts of this case. An already confirmed fact is that Estrada was a victim of domestic violence. The Associated Press reports that she had previously obtained a restraining order against the father of one or more of her children. Can we rule out the possibility that domestic violence, or the threat of continued domestic violence, was a contributing factor to the depression Estrada was reported to be experiencing and the decision to end her life and the lives of her children?”

Even if Estrada were a victim of domestic violence, it wouldn’t come within a mile of excusing or explaining her horrendous crime. But it is in no way an “already confirmed fact that Estrada was a victim of domestic violence.” Estrada got a temporary restraining order against her ex-boyfriend Gregorio Frayre Rodriguez. While to outsiders this may sound impressive, it is, in fact, absolutely meaningless.

According to Elaine Epstein, former president of the Massachusetts Women’s Bar Association, restraining orders are doled out “like candy” to “virtually all who apply,” and that “in virtually all cases, no notice, meaningful hearing, or impartial weighing of evidence is to be had.”

Restraining orders are generally done ex parte, without the accused’s knowledge and with no opportunity afforded for him to defend himself. When an order is issued, the man is booted out of his own home and can even be jailed if he tries to contact his own children. Despite these grave effects, many courts grant restraining orders to practically any woman who applies. Research shows that these orders often do not even involve an allegation of violence. Usually all that’s needed is a claim that the person to be restrained “acted in a way that scared me” or was “verbally abusive”—what’s known as “shout at your spouse, lose your house.”

A restrained person does have the opportunity to contest the orders at a hearing a couple of weeks later. However, these proceedings are often just a formality for which no more than 15 minutes are generally allotted. In fact, the State of California’s website gives the following advice for men who are contesting restraining orders:

“Practice saying why you disagree with the charges. Do not take more than three minutes to say what you disagree with. You can bring witnesses or documents that support your case, but the judge may not have enough time to talk to the witnesses.”

One study of restraining orders published in the Journal of Family Violence found that 94% of those brought by women in one Massachusetts district were extended.

Many if not most domestic violence restraining orders are simply tactical maneuvers designed to gain advantage in high stakes family law proceedings. The Illinois Bar Journal calls the orders “part of the gamesmanship of divorce.”

A recent article in the Family Law News, the official publication of the State Bar of California Family Law Section, explains that the Bar is concerned that “protective orders are increasingly being used in family law cases to help one side jockey for an advantage in child custody.” The authors note that protective orders are “almost routinely issued by the court in family law proceedings even when there is relatively meager evidence and usually without notice to the restrained person….it is troubling that they appear to be sought more and more frequently for retaliation and litigation purposes.”

The restraining order against Rodriguez was only temporary, and was probably issued ex parte. Yes, it’s certainly possible that Estrada may have been a victim of domestic violence, and I’m sure her family, friends and defenders will try to portray her as such. However, as of right now, we have no credible evidence that she was a victim of domestic violence. And even if they did have a violent relationship, it may have been Estrada who was solely or largely responsible for that violence. After all, while we have no proof of any wrongdoing by Rodriguez, we do have absolute proof that Estrada was violent and mentally disturbed.

The Associated Press  story is Mother hangs herself, 4 children; infant found alive.

Help for Los Angeles/Ventura County Dads
Peter M. Walzer, Certified Family Law Specialist
www.California-Divorce.com

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  1. 54
    amfortas Says:

    Scottkirk, there is little effective difference between Communism and Fascism. Both are perversions of a natural propensity that most people have to co-operate and support one another. The perversion lies in the enforcement of these inclinations on a mass scale by sociopaths with a murderous intolerance, who wish to control and use the people and gain all the benefits. To sociopaths, other people are useful idiots.

    The healthy expression of the natural propensity is the family. It is based on love and desire, protection, nurturing, provision and human growth. The individual man and woman are the keystones and their natural expressions with, to and for one another spreads outward to social kindness and helpfulness.

    This particular mother was an individual instance of the Communistic/Fascistic person, a sociopath with a murderous intolerance. It encompassed even herself.

  2. 53
    mruffolo Says:

    Artfldgr,

    This document reads like a piece from NOW’s web site.

    The traditional woman appears to the enemy of Communism also.

    Thanks for sharing.

  3. 52
    Artfldgr Says:

    forgot to mention all that is from the source at the bottom, not me… you would be surprised what other stuff says…
    i also forgot the link http://www.marxists.org/history/international/comintern/3rd-congress/women-theses.htm and as i have said, horses beget horses, not kangaroos.

  4. 51
    Artfldgr Says:

    The real equality of women, as opposed to formal and superficial equality, will be achieved only under Communism, when women and all the other members of the labouring class will become co-owners of the means of production and distribution and will take part in administering them, and women will share on an equal footing with all the members of the labour society the duty to work; in other words, it will be achieved by overthrowing the capitalist system of production and exploitation which is based on the exploitation of human labour,and by organising a Communist economy.

    Only Communism creates conditions whereby the conflict between the natural function of woman – maternity – and her social obligations, which hinder her creative work for the collective, will disappear and the harmonious and many-sided development of a healthy and balanced personality firmly and closely in tune with the life and goals of the labour-collective will be completed.

    All women who fight for the emancipation of woman and the recognition of her rights must have as their aim the creation of a Communist society.

    The masses of proletarian women must, in their own interests, support the revolutionary tactics of the Communist Party and take as active and direct a part as possible in mass action and in every type and form of civil war that emerges both on the national and international scale.

    and to address your comment as to their aims..

    At its highest stage, the struggle of women against their dual oppression (by capitalism and by their own domestic family dependence) must take on an international character, developing into a struggle (fought under the banner of the III International) by the proletariat of both sexes for their dictatorship and for the Soviet system.

    Third Congress of the Communist International

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