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‘I spent 23 years as a counselor… Arrests, prosecutions and sentencing in domestic violence cases are primarily based on gender, not on behavior’

2007-06-02
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“I spent 23 years as a counselor including 12 years as a probation counselor. Arrests, prosecutions and sentencing in domestic violence cases are primarily based on gender, not on behavior. It so ingrained into the system that the authorities usually do not know that they are being prejudicial. Very few cases of domestic violence fit the profile presented in the popular media or used in treatment programs for men.”

An interesting letter in the Vancouver Columbian about domestic violence arrest policies. 

System prejudicial

I commend Ron Jones for having the courage to say that which is politically incorrect regarding domestic violence. Jones’ May 18 letter, “Men victimized, too,” pointed out that domestic violence has been promoted as a male against female problem. I suggest that the problem is far worse and far more endemic.

I spent 23 years as a counselor including 12 years as a probation counselor. Arrests, prosecutions and sentencing in domestic violence cases are primarily based on gender, not on behavior. It is so ingrained into the system that the authorities usually do not know that they are being prejudicial.

Very few cases of domestic violence fit the profile presented in the popular media or used in treatment programs for men. The result is that the programs in place successfully meet certain political objectives, but in doing so damage the relationship between men and women. I am convinced that these programs increase the level of family dysfunction.

The way to change the end result is simple. The system and the people running it become honest. I found that both those presented as perpetrators of domestic violence and those who were supposed victims were nearly always honest about their behavior. It is those in authority who operate by a political agenda.

Ron Austin
Vancouver 

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  • scottkirk

    someone give me a linc to an organization that has a track record of fighting on this particular front (and has some favoreable victories to prove it)…
    as I’m not situated myself for this partucular battle, but will help fund it!!!!

  • http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com Roger Knight

    http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com/gourley.htm

    It has been one of those days.

  • http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com Roger Knight
  • http://www.antipeonage.0catch.com Roger Knight

    Where the DV charge is weak because it is not true, or because it is a two way street and any jury will see that, we dispense with the criminal charge and all of its constitutionally required procedures, and go with the restraining order game. Where there is no due process and the result is always catastrophic to a respondent man, and that when he tries to fight back with legal argument, he fights a ghost!

    http://www/antipeonage.0catch.com/gourley.htm

    Fight back has to include the political angle as well.

    Hopefully we will not need to resort to the Second Amendment, but I am not optimistic we can do this without violence.

  • anti armchair generals

    WLS (20) is absolutely right. I read a story from somewhere (possibly Denver) where they have fast track DV proceeeding. If you plead guilty,light sentence is sugested, but not all dire consequences are explained.
    A person convicted of DV can not have a lisence to carry arms. Police and security personnel would lose their jobs. for soldiers it’s not clear since military has its own code of justice.
    So as WLS suggests,don’t fall in the trap even if the night in jail has been scary experience.Once they get criminal recor on you,they will make your life living hell. If you can aford an experience lawyer,use it. Public defenders are overloaded and only try to clear the docket.

  • thurston861

    Bolwriter – we should also not censor as well!

    Such Myn must be purged from our Leadership and ranks. They are the greatest danger to the Truth, for then we become as “bugus as the bogus people we are against” -Jeff Spicolli, Fast Times at Ridgemeont High.

    So easy even a Surffer High School Burnout can understand.

  • scottkirk

    dad4justice…The question of what is appropriate justice for the modern feminist Klan is a topic few have reasoneably discussed.

  • dad4justice

    Yes feminists are twisted liars who distort facts at will, because they can’t fight fair , these scum bitches have destroyed the moral fibre of society by unleashing the fury of its hostlity against fatherhood , now fatherlessness is a huge problem of our countries . Low self esteem within our male youth and increased middle age men committing suicide point to a problem , however the feminist sympathetic media never report it . Wake up before it’s to late for a lost generation ? These feminazi’s should be burnt at the stake !!

  • bolwriter

    We are swimming against the current of recent history, but that history is based systematically on lies, distortions of the truth and no small amount of misandry. The great thing we have on our side is the truth and the truth, if stated often enough and clearly enough will eventually prevail. That is why we should always be careful to not fall into the feminist way of doing things, i.e. making up facts, illogical argument, etc. We have facts and truth on our side, so we don’t need to resort to their methods.

  • Dittohd

    >…Men who contest weak DV charges—rather than plea bargin (sic) and take batterers’ treatment—seem to win quite often…

    I think that making up facts and statistics on-the-fly like this should be against the law and this guy should be thrown in jail for this and his hate speech.

  • anti armchair generals

    scottkirk (10)
    Amen, you hit the nail on the head. Revisionist feminist historians are already trying to re-write the ancient part. One reportedly said that the West was won because women gathered fruits and nuts. Some call California by that insulting name. Hope truth is told about this era.
    I dont’t know if links can be posted, but this is to federal VAWA
    http://www.usdoj.gov/ovw/

  • scottkirk

    Glen…also tell RON AUSTIN from Vancouver that I’m also thankfull for his honesty..

  • scottkirk

    The WOMEN OF THE KLU KLUX KLAN also used rape hysteria for control..
    9 out of 10 of the people who were beaten and lynched in the deep south were black men who were accussed of rape….
    I’ve done my research (as i was falselly accussed) and we have a very serious dialogue coming soon…

  • Menck

    Whoever WLS is, she certainly has never had to contend with false or “weak” DV charges.

  • scottkirk

    anti-armchair general..we may be outnumbered..but were men.. We make the world turn. we do all the work, and make things happen..
    When men finnally break free from feminist social control, youre going to see some things change..
    As we write a history for our children..this period in time is not going to look very good for women…Why did they create a false rape/ domestic abuse hysteria….why did they strip fathers of their children…why are they killing so many children…
    And why in a age where men in 1920 died 1 year ealier than women, and are now dying on average 10 years earlier..are we only hearing deafening cries of women-as-victim..
    As Esther Vilar says in her book..”the manipulated man” The women-as-victim mantra they we are constantly subjected to in the media, and elsewhere has a tendency to blind men to all other sufferers..includeing themselves”..

  • amfortas

    WLS #7.

    Says who?

    Have you any idea of the number of men and the number of actions that I have inspired by circulating MND articles and commentators views? Even you as an horrible example. No of course not. You just guess, negatively.

    You aren’t Stephenie Guess are you?

  • anti armchair generals

    scottkirk (post 3) Yes, MND is a voice in the wildernesss, but do your realizehow many feminist organizations there are? NOW,AAUW.LWV etc, judges in our jurisdsiciton are expected to appear before feminist panel.
    During my about 30 years of activism things have gone from bad to worse. It took six sessions of legislature to get joint custody inot law because feminist opposition.
    Violence Against Women Act has an Office in the Department of Justice and have received about 5 billion budget in two terms> Media has so many feminist editors and reporters that mens/fathers side is seldom told. We ar like a knat against a battleship.
    I don’t want to continue arguing with your since you are entitled to your opinion. Besides. it’s like men being in a circular firing squad and we have enough enemies.

  • scottkirk

    breaking free of feminist social control is the most liberateing experience I’ve ever had….I recomend the yolked males that hear this message to cast off their chains!!!

  • amfortas

    The pen and keyboard raise an army, scott. You are here too.

  • scottkirk

    anti armchair general…”It will not change because men are to apethetic to become activists”…youre here blogging on MND. aren’t you!!!
    In leu of active revolt…our only other option is constructive defiance by way of the pen..

  • anti armchair generals

    Glenn Saks reveals a dark secret in the legal community by reprinting a letter of counselor in the field for 23 years/
    When in our community had a domestic violence work shop, the main speaker was author of “Women Who Kill” It was about 20 to 25 years ago. After that they admitted audience by “invitation onlY’ It was a horror shwow that now is inbedded in reality. Assistnat prosecutors are trained to be pro-feminist and drop charges against women. Mandatory arrest policy is in many places for 911 domestic violence call.
    By the time feminist support groups get the woman and children brainwashed, the man is a toast. Just stick a fork on him.
    It will not change because most men are too apathetic to bewcome activists and after they are arrested, they naively belive in Constitutional rights. Those rights are long gone.

  • badger

    No. Really. I find that soooo hard to believe.
    Misogyny in the legal community. Say it isn’t so.
    I work with a guy whose sister in an asistant DA in
    Vancouver (Canada) not Washington as is in the case
    in this piece. It must be something with Vancouver.
    She is a ball breaker whose wordsand actions just ooze
    man hatred. He tells me she continually whines about not
    any good men out there. I wonder why. Stupid biatch.







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