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		<title>By: Lycurgus</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/07/getting-the-government-the-third-world-deserves/comment-page-1/#comment-43412</link>
		<dc:creator>Lycurgus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, this is the way of all civilisations. Collapse is always from within.

It only takes one generation of affluence and relatively benign government for a society to forget that things were not always so. People who have never lived under oppressive, corrupt regimes and/or grinding poverty are generally incapable of empathy with the mindset required to survive these conditions – a mindset often completely antithetical to their own.

When people emigrate from these regimes to a vibrant and confident society (like the US in the 60s) in controlled numbers, the force of the culture surrounding them will tend to encourage them to adopt the mindset of the host culture and pass it on to their offspring.

In the West, affluence and benign government has given room for the narcissistic navel-gazing that passes for introspection among the socialist academics (they would be ‘politically re-educated’ or simply liquidated elsewhere). The result of this is ‘multiculturalism’ – the idea that all cultures are equal, except the host Western culture, which is the fons et origins of all contemporary evil. 

The ramblings of the diseased minds in academia would be irrelevant if multiculturalism were not also linked to open boarders immigration policies. What the alleged academics who would call me racist fail to understand is that the color of the immigrants’ skin is irrelevant; it is the cultural attitudes they bring. If they bring western liberal democratic beliefs then there is no problem.

The problems arise when they don’t have these liberal (old fashioned meaning) beliefs and if there is no confident society for them to assimilate to: because they will not even try. When immigration numbers are uncontrolled and the immigrants are told continually (by the socialist media) that our culture is evil (and by extension that all other cultures are ‘good’) then it is logical for the large numbers of immigrants to impose their own culture on the host. The same culture that made the country they left a third world toilet.

The result is that the immigrants turn the host into the kind of divided basket-case country they left, hoping for a better life. The only people who benefit from this are left wing politicians who can buy these peoples’ votes by promising to ‘redistribute’ the country’s wealth to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, this is the way of all civilisations. Collapse is always from within.</p>
<p>It only takes one generation of affluence and relatively benign government for a society to forget that things were not always so. People who have never lived under oppressive, corrupt regimes and/or grinding poverty are generally incapable of empathy with the mindset required to survive these conditions – a mindset often completely antithetical to their own.</p>
<p>When people emigrate from these regimes to a vibrant and confident society (like the US in the 60s) in controlled numbers, the force of the culture surrounding them will tend to encourage them to adopt the mindset of the host culture and pass it on to their offspring.</p>
<p>In the West, affluence and benign government has given room for the narcissistic navel-gazing that passes for introspection among the socialist academics (they would be ‘politically re-educated’ or simply liquidated elsewhere). The result of this is ‘multiculturalism’ – the idea that all cultures are equal, except the host Western culture, which is the fons et origins of all contemporary evil. </p>
<p>The ramblings of the diseased minds in academia would be irrelevant if multiculturalism were not also linked to open boarders immigration policies. What the alleged academics who would call me racist fail to understand is that the color of the immigrants’ skin is irrelevant; it is the cultural attitudes they bring. If they bring western liberal democratic beliefs then there is no problem.</p>
<p>The problems arise when they don’t have these liberal (old fashioned meaning) beliefs and if there is no confident society for them to assimilate to: because they will not even try. When immigration numbers are uncontrolled and the immigrants are told continually (by the socialist media) that our culture is evil (and by extension that all other cultures are ‘good’) then it is logical for the large numbers of immigrants to impose their own culture on the host. The same culture that made the country they left a third world toilet.</p>
<p>The result is that the immigrants turn the host into the kind of divided basket-case country they left, hoping for a better life. The only people who benefit from this are left wing politicians who can buy these peoples’ votes by promising to ‘redistribute’ the country’s wealth to them.</p>
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		<title>By: thurston861</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/07/getting-the-government-the-third-world-deserves/comment-page-1/#comment-43410</link>
		<dc:creator>thurston861</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Internet has given power.

The Revolution has already begun. 

Three Battles Rage and go unreported in North America, the fourth touched on and Reported a wackos.

The sub-Groups are confederating with each new battle, thus the numbers in forces are increasing in every engagement, not diminishing. 

In fact yesterday the U.S. Government moved to surround the Home of Ed and Elaine Brown in New Hampshire, to take them into custody in a case where the Judge (same personage and tactics of teh usual suspects identified by Mr. Usher) Usurped the Right to a Fair Trial, the Jury was told that there is no such thing as Jury Nullification (shades of Peter Zenger and William Penn Trials), and denied them the right to show all of the evidence used by them in defense of their legal position and Right to withhold Money from the Government until answers to questions are provided (an ancient right since the Magna Carta per the Annuls of the Continental Congress October 24, 1774).

Well, the siege began yesterday. Until the word go to a couple of friends of mine.

The Government has backed off for now and More Media is streaming in to press for fair trial, and expose the lawlessness of government. Some will be human shields to not only diver the next Waco, but also to press the Judge.

The Course of Action was Telephone calls, that reached an Apex at the County Sheriff’s office over Plainfield, where it is reported that the Sheriff’s Receptionist was going to stop answering the Phones.

Funny how the same thing was kind of sort of happening last week and the week before last when the Senate took on the immigration Bill which is tied to the SPP and some other really awful stuff regarding the 2nd Amendment. (The incessant ringing of the Phones that staff were either told would not happen or told to placate to allow the Senate to try and move forward, must have sent people huddling under their desks)

Funny how in the story of the Candidacy of Ron Paul his mass appeal on the internet is attributed to a &quot;well organized group&quot; of alleged spammers. (Wolf Blitzer is getting that wrath now I hear.)

The War on the MSM, the Federal Judicial Rebellion against the People, and the Usual Suspects in Congress has begun.

Let us face it.  The People are organized now and are taking action. The only response of the MSM is to speak of the power of the Net in a condescending way, the Senate has to kill the immigration Bill (thanks for trying our Network only has expanded to more angry Citizens), and the U.S. Law Enforcement has to pull back the blockade and APC&#039;s (sorry chaps you just got the attention fo the whole 911 Truth Movement to add their voice to the Tax Honesty Movement). 

The only move other than capitulation to the Will of the People is suppress the Net.

This is already happening as messages to me are on a 24 hour delay.

Back up systems are being devised around the Blocking moves of the &quot;Controllers.&quot;  The Network is having to adapt and overcome.  WE WILL.

Phone systems will have to be taken out to stop that, since the Controllers have demonstrated their willingness to take out portions of the Net or even censor.

Strange how the People insist on being heard - not &#039;a herd&#039;.

But do not listen to me, I am a &quot;Nut&quot;, as certain as none of this is happening.

Mr. Rudov, I am still waiting for my apology, or are you going to continue to stay your course of lack of character and deny your effort to assassinate my character by your censorship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Internet has given power.</p>
<p>The Revolution has already begun. </p>
<p>Three Battles Rage and go unreported in North America, the fourth touched on and Reported a wackos.</p>
<p>The sub-Groups are confederating with each new battle, thus the numbers in forces are increasing in every engagement, not diminishing. </p>
<p>In fact yesterday the U.S. Government moved to surround the Home of Ed and Elaine Brown in New Hampshire, to take them into custody in a case where the Judge (same personage and tactics of teh usual suspects identified by Mr. Usher) Usurped the Right to a Fair Trial, the Jury was told that there is no such thing as Jury Nullification (shades of Peter Zenger and William Penn Trials), and denied them the right to show all of the evidence used by them in defense of their legal position and Right to withhold Money from the Government until answers to questions are provided (an ancient right since the Magna Carta per the Annuls of the Continental Congress October 24, 1774).</p>
<p>Well, the siege began yesterday. Until the word go to a couple of friends of mine.</p>
<p>The Government has backed off for now and More Media is streaming in to press for fair trial, and expose the lawlessness of government. Some will be human shields to not only diver the next Waco, but also to press the Judge.</p>
<p>The Course of Action was Telephone calls, that reached an Apex at the County Sheriff’s office over Plainfield, where it is reported that the Sheriff’s Receptionist was going to stop answering the Phones.</p>
<p>Funny how the same thing was kind of sort of happening last week and the week before last when the Senate took on the immigration Bill which is tied to the SPP and some other really awful stuff regarding the 2nd Amendment. (The incessant ringing of the Phones that staff were either told would not happen or told to placate to allow the Senate to try and move forward, must have sent people huddling under their desks)</p>
<p>Funny how in the story of the Candidacy of Ron Paul his mass appeal on the internet is attributed to a &#8220;well organized group&#8221; of alleged spammers. (Wolf Blitzer is getting that wrath now I hear.)</p>
<p>The War on the MSM, the Federal Judicial Rebellion against the People, and the Usual Suspects in Congress has begun.</p>
<p>Let us face it.  The People are organized now and are taking action. The only response of the MSM is to speak of the power of the Net in a condescending way, the Senate has to kill the immigration Bill (thanks for trying our Network only has expanded to more angry Citizens), and the U.S. Law Enforcement has to pull back the blockade and APC&#8217;s (sorry chaps you just got the attention fo the whole 911 Truth Movement to add their voice to the Tax Honesty Movement). </p>
<p>The only move other than capitulation to the Will of the People is suppress the Net.</p>
<p>This is already happening as messages to me are on a 24 hour delay.</p>
<p>Back up systems are being devised around the Blocking moves of the &#8220;Controllers.&#8221;  The Network is having to adapt and overcome.  WE WILL.</p>
<p>Phone systems will have to be taken out to stop that, since the Controllers have demonstrated their willingness to take out portions of the Net or even censor.</p>
<p>Strange how the People insist on being heard &#8211; not &#8216;a herd&#8217;.</p>
<p>But do not listen to me, I am a &#8220;Nut&#8221;, as certain as none of this is happening.</p>
<p>Mr. Rudov, I am still waiting for my apology, or are you going to continue to stay your course of lack of character and deny your effort to assassinate my character by your censorship?</p>
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		<title>By: KushinLos</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/07/getting-the-government-the-third-world-deserves/comment-page-1/#comment-43393</link>
		<dc:creator>KushinLos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, for a lot of this to go away we would need to have a Glorious Revolution that returns the country back to the proper reading of the Constitution and failing that, secession.  And if secession it be, be prepared to fight for our lives and our freedoms since the unitarians will seek to destroy us.

They are already on that path as it is, they don&#039;t like a white America (which I feel I must add I don&#039;t care if America is white or not, I just hate be considered evil due to my skin color) and won&#039;t let its true culture survive as well.  Quite frankly I don&#039;t want my family sold into the kind of mental slavery born into half the population of this country as it is and if that means that I have to war to save the other half to keep my family free, then even though I care not for them I will fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, for a lot of this to go away we would need to have a Glorious Revolution that returns the country back to the proper reading of the Constitution and failing that, secession.  And if secession it be, be prepared to fight for our lives and our freedoms since the unitarians will seek to destroy us.</p>
<p>They are already on that path as it is, they don&#8217;t like a white America (which I feel I must add I don&#8217;t care if America is white or not, I just hate be considered evil due to my skin color) and won&#8217;t let its true culture survive as well.  Quite frankly I don&#8217;t want my family sold into the kind of mental slavery born into half the population of this country as it is and if that means that I have to war to save the other half to keep my family free, then even though I care not for them I will fight.</p>
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