The Hunter and His Dog
A hunter and his dog went deep into the woods in search of game. After the first day passed they had not caught any game. After the second day passed they again did not catch anything. They could quench their thirst form the water in the streams, but they had nothing to eat and became very hungry. After the third day passed they still had not caught any game. Their hunger increased. Sitting around the campfire that night the hunter looked at the long tail of his dog and thought it would make a tasty snack that would relieve his hunger. He took out his knife and cut his dog’s tail off leaving just a small stump. He cooked the tail in a pot of water that hung over the campfire. When the tail was done the hunter began to eat it. He noticed his dog looking at him and making sounds indicating a desire for something to eat as well. The hunter threw the part of the tail that he could not eat to his dog. His dog wiggled its stump of a tail in appreciation.
Dogs have a consciousness and can be responsive; however, they do not have a self-consciousness-they cannot analyze. The hunters dog could not say to itself, “The whole tail was mine, why should I be grateful that he gave a piece of it back to me.” The dog was hungry, the hunter fed him, and the dog wiggled its tail in gratitude.
Human beings on the other hand have self-consciousness and can analyze, yet they tend to behave the way the dog does. In this parable about the hunter and the dog, the hunter represents our government and his dog represents the people, you and me. The government has nothing of its own, whatever it has it received from the people; when it gives a portion of what it has received back to the people they do not realize they have been given back a small portion of what was taken from them. They wiggle their tales in gratitude.
Some people feel they are ahead of the government because they are receiving more in financial benefits than they are paying in taxes. The main thing the government has taken from you is not your money but your manhood. When it gives you part of it back in the form of rights, it has done nothing deserving your gratitude. When you go to family court and the government gives you rights to visit your own child-it is your child not theirs-do you wiggle your tail in gratitude?
What man gives man can take away, but fortunately what God gives only God can take away. The government can suppress your manhood, it can smother it, and it can stomp on it, but it can’t take it away.
I have stopped wiggling my tail a long time ago and am looking for men who want to do likewise. Our country needs men ready to reclaim their manhood. Are you one of them?
If so, you know where to reach me.
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June 10th, 2007 at 10:36 am
An interesting parable but I see a different reality. I have my tail whacked off annually, but receive only a few tip-hairs back for which I am not grateful since they were mine to begin with, while those folks permitted to keep their tails, receive most of my tail.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:24 am
Elder George wrote in another post — (* = DW2G let me deconstruct…)
“The reason that the so-called men’s movements of the past 30 years have experienced complete failure is because they have not addressed the fundamentals necessary to bring about change. Four fundamentals that require attention are:
1.The problem or issue
2.Its cause
3.The corrective action necessary
4. Defining the enemy.”
* 1-4: E.G. – your logic is obsolete.
In fact, it is a liability for the men’s movement.
Have you noticed that in these modern times, “women’s ways of knowing” constitute the new logic?
It’s all about spin now.
Forget primary texts. And don’t ever suggest that your opponent should READ anything! (That signals that you’re not post-literate and do not jog ever morning with an I-pod surgically grafted to your ears….)
If you insist upon pursuing your current faux-philosopher identity, you might want to read up on the moral and intellectual superiority widely celebrated by your mistresses. (Mentors?)
Logic has already been defeated as a strategy.
What else might you have up your sleeve?
June 10th, 2007 at 11:34 am
To DadWith2Girls,
Sounds like you’ve surrendered already. Can’t help you.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:41 am
No sir.
To misquote our Commander-in-Chief — you’ve misidentified the actual battle.
You did not answer my question.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:52 am
To DadWith2Girls,
I don’t need anything else up my sleeve. Read my blog The Will, which is about ten slots down the line.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:57 am
DW2G – you shining brillance interspresed with your disjointed logic of #3 has me writing out a lithium prescription for you.
I believe that you are Bi-Polar, otherwise you would point out Where exactly Elder is wrong, and then prcisely place your finger on the course of action for a solution.
The Spin and “intuitive” svengalism of Women has no effect on the Will of REAL Men.
You on the otherhand apprear to be its prisoner.
You have our Pity.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
thurston861,
Despite you (r) inability to spell — I will take your psychiatric expertise to heart.
T-861 : “The Spin and “intuitive” svengalism of Women has no effect on the Will of REAL Men.”
Have you read any Freud or Jung?
If so, could you write a few lines about the “REAL” aspect?
You seem to be angry and conflicted!
(Not a feminist “shame-and-blame” game … just an observation.)
(Also, you are “projecting” bigtime!)
Nothing personal, my bro’.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
That is what I have come away with from the last dozen posts from you.
You do not have to accepot it. Denial is a completely acceptable position for the majority of humanity, for you do appear to be contrary to ignorance.
One does not have to read the Cocaine addicted analist Freud, or his one time Protege Jung to know that the change begins between ones two ears.
REAL= self-aware, self-actuating opp. pawns and puppets subject to control and blatant manipulation. REAL is a pursuit, an objective, thus an Action.
I used to be angry, and conflicted, but since I do not think that I want anything I seem to not feel anything anymore.
I do feel for the children who are being raised without their Fathers and know not what their purpose on Earth is. But G-D in his writing has assured me that HE alone WILL raise up Fathers even from stones ifneccesary, for those that are HIS.
The rest…they do not care about HIM, so they will never be able to know the difference. That is ignorance.
That is why our laws are just like the Bibilical Laws, wilfull ignorance is punishable, because the WILL in such a case is REBELLION.
I dare say you posess the means of choice. You know too much to be without an option, or do you want to plead insanity?
Those are just my observations. Most think nothing of them. Thank you for your thoughtful consideration.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
T-861,
I am not a Christian. So, it’s difficult for me to connect with your unreality.
Speaking of bi-tri-polar-disorder — do you believe in god, the son, and the holy ghost?
I have come to believe that religion is a major tool of radical feminists’
strategy to dominate and disempower men.
You write well.
I read thoughtfully.
I think ruthlessly…
June 10th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
PS – (sic) –
Mike LaSalle might want to create a rubber-padded MND virtual “room” (directory) on his website, for all the like-minded deviant posters.
With all the requisite legal disclaimers!
Mike, you never anticipated this excess of contentious dialogue and potential legal liabilities, right?
What was your original business model for MND?
How has it evolved?
Do you (certainly I’m sure) have a very expert lawyer?
June 10th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
dw2g-
Actually you have it completely backwards…as usual.
Radical feminism is a tool of Marxism. Those who most fully identify themselves as “feminists” are all Leftists and Marxist, if not overtly than by proxy. Marxism embraces and seeks to instill atheism. It seeks to lift man from the oppression of the “opiate of the masses.” Thus it is atheism which “is a major tool of radical feminists’ strategy to dominate and disempower men, not Christianity or religion per se.
At their heart, Religions, especially those of Judeo-Christian origin have a code of moral and ethical standards. Atheism has nothing at it’s core except self-worship. It is because of that core of moral and ethical standards that those on the Left fear and hate Christians.
They fear the moral judgment. They hate the ethical standards imposed by the tenets of those religions. One cannot live a life of self-indulgence and a Christ-like life. We do impose our moral judgments on others.
Christianity encourages the stability and strength of the family, Marxism, Liberalism, and feminism despise the family as a source of cohesive strength for the greater society.
A Christian society would never tolerate the unbridled murder of millions of unborn children each year; an atheistic society would have no underlying moral imperative to prevent each from exercising such behavior at their discretion.
A Christian society would never seek to take those “natural rights” those right “endowed by our Creator” from us; an Atheistic society has no such compunction. Any right which is given by man can be taken away by man. Any right which is given by God ever be taken away by man.
Radical feminists embrace your paradigm and ethos, not those of the Judeo-Christian faiths.
Atheism, and Marxism believe in the perfectability of man; in the Judeo-Christian paradigm, only God is perfect. Even Christ, who is often referred to as the only perfect human, when addressed by the young rich man in Mathew 19 gently rebuked him for calling him “good master,” saying to him “Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God”
You read snidely.
You think foolishly…
June 10th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
To S Baker,
I had to reflect on your question and was out for a while this afternoon.
If you’re speaking in the economic sense, then the saying, “To whom much is given, much is also required” applies. Not always fairly, but it applies. Why should I be getting social security when I have four children who could support me? If we eliminated social security we would have a whole new (old) way of life here.
If you’re speaking child support or alimony that’s another matter.
In any event, what are you prepared to do about the condition that bothers you?
June 10th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
To DadWith2Girls,
Did you read my blog on The Will?
June 10th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
Firstly, let me say to my comrades at MND that I am perfectly comfortable being chastized as an occasional heretic. No problem.
Frankly, in this respectible and truly diverse crowd that Mike LaSalle tolerates (cultivates?) — every serious commentator deserves a night in the box, once in a while. (Paul Newman reference…. failure to????)
I left the Catholic Church at age twelve after a grueling summer of catechism classes… only to be dissapointed to learn that all I needed to accomplish to verify my devout faith was to pass a twenty-question multiple choice exam.
That’s a foolish religion, by any standards. So, I quit and never looked back.
Will, t. al. — I respect your perspectives and believe that Mike’s
little salon here may play a real part in saving what we used to call Democracy.
You know. Discourse. Argument. A trial of ideas and philosophies.
MRA’s need a few more “snide” supporters in Congress when VAWA 2010-2015 comes up for reauthorization.
“Snidely.”
That’s a great old word.
It used to mean “practicing deception.”
Thank you for using it, if perhaps with unintentional artifice.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
To the Elder: I am speaking in the economic sense when it comes to my tax burden. I don’t disagree that much has been given me, but I expect all capable people to make a contribution, not just pursue the next handout. As a life scientist for most of my life, I am grateful just to be alive on the face of this increbibly complex planet. Having a belief in God is simply a function of higher order thinking and only humans have the capacity. From all I know about the complexity of life, down to the molecular level, secures my belief in God. Life from a mud puddle did not happen. There is no process known to human ingenuity that does not require information, a plan, and execution in a directed sense to produce a complex system and humans produce nothing but tinker toys compared to a living cell.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
http://mensaction.net/
Elder George, is this the holy grail of men’s activism?
There’s no porn!
Not even intellectually stimulating material.
To quote my dead rasta friend — “It takes a Revolution, to make a Solution!”
June 10th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
To DadWith2Girls,
I’m working on it. What are you doing?
Most accomplishment isn’t intelectually stimulating–that’s entertainment.
Accomplishment is using the Will to bring hope to reality.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Dw2G,
I use words that are appropriate for the meaning I wish to convey; as they were meant to be used, not as I choose them to mean.
I am not a follower of the Humpty-Dumpty paradigm:
“Snidely-adverb: in an uncomplimentary, sneering manner.” Trust me, it is not a compliment.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
Humpty-friggin’-Dumpty? You even get that wrong.
June 10th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
DOWN with Democracy!
All Democracies faill and are destined to because no Right or Reson restrains them. Adams (who is tha actual Pen of the Declaration and Constitution) and Jefferson had endless exchanges about this fact.
Democracy: Keel-Hull it 3 times, then make it walk the Plank, wait for it to surface, then hang if from the ForeMast.
Rule of Law is the soultion.
Men are destroyed in this present system of Democracy. Had there been a Republic not even Legislators could have made the insanity that we now toil beneith.
DEATH to the Democratic State – Long Live the Republic!
(Was that me or the spirit of my Scalping Training Ancestors?)
June 10th, 2007 at 8:40 pm
Gentlemen! EG is asking if you will stand as men, and all you do is bicker over minor differences. Such bickering does not move us forward. Does no one remember the warning about a “house divided”? Yes, we need to discuss important issues. But nit-picking others’ spelling, word choices, or political/religious affiliations does NOT advance our cause. It mires us. Yes, we have differences. Deal with it. Stop getting hung up on the “small stuff”. I do not agree with all here, but know for certain we must pull together if we’re to succeed.
I’m not a Christian. So what? I still recognize there may be a guiding force in the Universe. Despite the myriad contradictions it contains, the Bible still holds much wisdom. I believe strongly in the nuclear family as the bedrock on which society depends. Disturb that bedrock and society crumbles.
I’m not a Republican or a Democrat. Not that it should matter. I personally believe neither party serves the best interests of men, the family, or the nation any more. I support those who put our Constitution first.
We all need to pull together to restore the sanctity of the family. I don’t care which party or religion you support. I don’t care where you’re from, what education you have, or what your spelling looks like. I DO care if you are ready to stand together with the rest of us, despite our petty differences.
June 10th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
Amfortas???
A few too many Fosters perhaps?
Thou hadst best educate thyself before you speak out lest ye demonstrate thine ignorance:
Lewis Carroll is a great read. That is from “Through the Looking Glass with Alice.”
June 10th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Well, there you go. Thick old Gnome. Pass the tinny, I might as well make a night of it.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
America is a pagan nation. Focus is on self pleasure, not pleasing God. Instead of following God’s rules, America and many western countries follow their own rules.
This is why one decade something is illegal like homo sex, homo marriage, divorce, abortion, false witness against another (as in rape), and later it is legal.
Laws in a pagan culture changes like the wind, by popularity vote.
It makes some sense that in America’s media, church, academics, and government Christian and Catholics are mocked and unacceptable, while the religions of other countries, like Buddhism, Hindu, and Islam that we know little about, is honored and acceptable.
The whore says, “I’m not religious, but I am spiritual,” not knowing that she is dead already. She has sex, and takes a shower, thinking that her sin has been washed away. She thanks her spirituality, then she waits for the next man.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:28 am
We sure have a variety of opions as always, but very little standing together to do anything. Very little Will to do is shone, which is why my blog The Will received only three comments.
For any endeavor of change many will be called but few will be chosen. The reason being that few, but a very few, will have the Will to stand together and make change.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:43 am
To monkeyinthemirror,
Appreciated your positive comments, but ask that you reconsider a couple of specifics.
The nuclear family has never worked and it has led to the dissoution of the family that you see today. The nuclear family is unsustainable and requires government assistance. The more assistance it gets from the government, the weaker it becomes until finally there is no family and the government runs everything. We are just about there.
The export of the West to the rest of the world is the institutionalized care of people. Those cultures that practice patriarchy do not put their people in institutions–they are capable of taking care of them through the extended family structure.
The constitution has degenerated much as the nuclear family has degenerated. They were both built upon the premise of the state providing instead of man providing. An extension of that thinking led to socialism and feminism.
June 11th, 2007 at 5:28 am
the modern nuclear family is in trouble..
Boys are growing up overcoddled and smothered by their mothers to the degree that they can’t support themselves…
June 11th, 2007 at 6:47 am
I do not know what the tipping point is that reverse the trend of liberal feminism that moves western culture toward family, toward fathers as leaders.
I sense violence will not be the spark.
The leader, like other successful movements, ought to have a religious background; this man will have moral authority.
Americas men now mostly focus on money (work), sex, beer, and sports or “toys” (self pleasure).
In American history there are Great Awakenings (about three of them) that returned America and Europe to a less pagan, self-centered country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Awakening
June 11th, 2007 at 7:27 am
To mruffolo,
The tipping point will be reached when men exercise their Will, whwether intintionally or due to circumstances. Until then, nothing will happen.
June 11th, 2007 at 7:30 am
I’m used to seeing the MND “veer” but this little ditty really has gone round and back. So many metaphoric references, a few literary drop ins, the religious, the not religious, and the merely spiritual join together.
I have to toss in a plea…can we stop with the silly admonishments about spelling? DW2G, thurston may ramble sometimes, he may push a point well beyond where we would ever imagine, and he may even get really angry and spout an occasional invective, but I am certain he is more then capable of spelling…he has stated a dozen times, no less, that his posts are all from a phone keyboard. That not only excuses an occasional typo, but speaks to the speed of his thumbs.
June 11th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Or to his youth…Ow! My poor arthritic thumbs:)
June 11th, 2007 at 9:40 am
Historically a great leader’s tipping point is when he had I Popeye moment.
Recall when Popeye saw injustice, he said, “That’s alls I can stands and I can’t stands no more.” He then went out to take care of business.
Moses had it. Gondi had it. Samuel Adams had it.
Injustice felt in an ordinary man’s heart can transform him to leader of men. The world will then never be the same.
June 11th, 2007 at 10:35 am
The problem is were fat…….what other nation in the world has a class of people living in poverty that are majority overweight carrying around cell-phones Ipods and have TV’s with playstation’s for their illegitimate children. Make no mistake the government has taken great effort to ensure we are pacified as they take more and more of our God given rights (Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness) When Men are truly hammered by the fist of an oppressive government, only then will we take action.
June 11th, 2007 at 10:39 am
To Virtue,
If it’s not too late. Once we’re completely enslaved it’s much more difficult to break out. The time for action is now.
June 11th, 2007 at 10:39 am
Men do not know what their Rights are to know that they are opressed.
June 11th, 2007 at 11:02 am
“Men do not know what their Rights are to know that they are opressed.”:
Then they need to educate themselves.
June 11th, 2007 at 11:46 am
I believe the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights are excellent sources of both authority and Merit……There the best sources I can possibly imagine.
We hold these truths to be self evident…..
June 11th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
How about obligations, responsibilities, and considerations instead of rights?
June 11th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
Those are Ethics concerns that should addressed apart from legal rights.
June 11th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Legal rights are only necessary in the absence of ethics.
Extended family has no legal rights. Everyone fullfills thier obligations, responsibilities, and consideratins, all cemented together by a love for one another.
Virtue, the past that you are familiar with didn’t work, it never worked, if you keep going back to it you will recreate what we have now.
June 11th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
To some extent Ethics and Legal rights do go hand in hand….Specifically With freedom comes responsibility……specifically the responsibility to defend that freedom….the responsibility to ensure that your freedom did not infringe upon the freedom of others……and to take responsibility that your actions as a free man and their consequences.
June 11th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
“…He took out his knife and cut his dog’s tail off leaving just a small stump. He cooked the tail in a pot of water that hung over the campfire. When the tail was done the hunter began to eat it. He noticed his dog looking at him and making sounds indicating a desire for something to eat as well. The hunter threw the part of the tail that he could not eat to his dog. His dog wiggled its stump of a tail in appreciation.”
When I read this the first thing I thought about was the government or more accurately, the IRS.
June 11th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
To DKSanctuary,
That’s a start. Look at what that government has done to your manhood. You don’t have authority over anything anymore. Your’re just a production worker–an automaton consumer.
Let me know when you’re ready to fight back.
June 11th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Elder,
They (IRS) can’t get what they don’t know about–I’ve probally already said too much. I think I will leave it at that.
June 12th, 2007 at 12:34 am
Virtue – I think I had posted this before but t disappeared.
The Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights have been marketed to the American People as spontaneously generated in a vacuum.
This is so that the Academics can make names for themselves in re-writing our history and the History of our rights.
The writings of the Continental Congress is an eye opener as to Rights and what specificity that they sacrificed in order to make a straight forward document.
Patrick Henry warned that the Bill would eventually be used to limit the Rights of Man, not enforce them.
He was correct. So it has come to pass.
THe twisters of our Rights even try to twist the Faith of Jefferson to justofy getting rid of the concept of a creator that gave Men their Rghts so that the product of Academia, the lawyers, can then assume control of the meaning of Rights while ignorign the development of Rights from 1215 to 1776.
No SIr, the Declaration and the Bill of Rights is not enough.
This is why up until a few years ago, if you chould prove a Right from the Bible, Roman Law, and/or English Law prior to 1789, it was yours.
I entreat you Sir to look deeper.
Do not let deceivers control you.