A Philosopical Look at Slutness
Nobody’s Opinion: Some words are just potent. Some words just jump out and grab you by the throat and slap your head up against the floor. Some words have so much power they can influence an entire life, and the way the rest of us look at that person. Some words can label a person by their peers for life.
All it takes is one time spoken.
“Slut” is one of those words. And this word is 95% of the time used to describe a woman. She is an adulterer, a slovenly woman, a fornicator, a prostitute—a woman with loose morals.
And despite the fact that there are many men that not only FIT this word and its attributes with more perfection than many women: when a man is an adulterer, a fornicator, a man with loose morals…instead of ostracizing him from the crowd of humanity, most of the time he is basically admired for his prowess.
He is not a slut…he is a stud.
Just ask Gene Simmons…he brags that he has “done” 4,685 women. (Well, around that but actually it’s probably higher.)
I remember my own father encouraging my brother to “bed” as many girls as he possibly could muster, and smiling with pride with every girl he notched, as I sat by and watched the damage. Silently.
And he was only fifteen.
And yet—when I once got into a car with my boyfriend (I was sixteen) and another guy to go somewhere to get a coke, because I went with two men instead of one, my father called me a “slut.”
I had to ask around to find out what the word meant.
Like I said…powerful. I didn’t get over that horrible scar from my dad for another twenty years.
As far as I know there is no word in the English language that describes the same behavior in a man…at least I couldn’t think of one.
I guess old Daniel Webster just left it out.
Okay, I’m not telling anyone anything new here…I imagine the word “slut” has been around since the first time some woman was raped in the desert in order to get some more camel milk. It was probably used with the Salem witch burnings. They were considered slutty and dangerous.
And as we are finding out, the Islamic laws will kill the girl who is just raped…even through no fault of her own. Good thing my father was not Islamic, I’d probably not be writing this.
The world is full of men, and more than half of them are Muslim. All Western women are sluts to them, and I’m very much an American woman, and proud to be one.
So, what’s the point?
I do intend to try to make a philosophical point, being the philosophical slut that I am.
And that is to explore just how easily women can be manipulated to become men haters. There is historical groundwork that has been laid, and the ground was very fertile.
All it needed was a little leftist manure.
Sort of like how all the white people are still being blamed for crimes committed hundreds of years ago which we fought a civil war over.
Men have been labeling women sluts since forever, and women have been resenting it.
Yet…when men are falsely accused of being sluts (rapists) (as in the Duke Case) there was an outcry for all the damage done to those poor boy’s reputation, as there should have been.
But…does anyone see some hypocrisy here? No? Why?
When was the last time you remember some girl being called a “slut” (falsely) and anyone even caring about it?
We are so used to the label of “slut” for women, and how much men really love “sluts” (as evidenced by the trillions made in porn) that our culture creates the monsters we see now in our Hollywood entertainers.
We can all agree I’m sure that this double standard has been around since time began. Many women, from the time they come into puberty, are bombarded with hundreds of men coming at them, trying to get sex. The testosterone hits the boys, and Mother Nature drives them to the honey…
Girls reaching puberty get to thinking dodging land mines would be easier.
This is why most fathers are overprotective of their daughters…they remember their own thoughts.
Women are almost like walking metaphors for the eggs they are carrying inside. ONE BIG EGG against the millions of little semen’s who are swimming around, mathematically speaking; only one gets through, and for THAT event the poor egg becomes a slut. No matter how big a fight she might put up…or not put up, she can just stand there and do nothing like the egg inside her, and she can be accused of being a slutty egg. Especially if she puts on lipstick.
Really, she can’t win.
Now, when they (the elite rulers and media guru’s) started the women’s movement, (Yes, I was there) it was to tell all women the wonderful message that they would become equal to men.
Women could have lots of sex like the guys and not be called sluts! GREAT! Go ahead…feel good at last! The pill was invented and they were free to fornicate as much as the men! They could even be superior with multiple orgasms!
Wrong. They were sure duped. There were more sluts than ever. (And abortions)
In the sixties, the world was rolling in slut mud. (Clinton never got out of it.) And men were in some kind of slut smorgasbord, because even though they yell “slut” at a Paris Hilton, or a Brittany Spears…they will go home and search for their sluttish picture on the internet.
Leaving the woman with saying, “Okay…I’m suppose to LOOK like a slut, but act like the Virgin Mary….how do I do that? Is it even possible?”
It’s like asking Brad Pitt to hang out with Angelina Jolie and NOT have sex.
Jesus— a enlightened man (savior) who knew that men were sluts too, made his statement about the whole subject long ago when he protected the prostitute Mary Magdeline from being stoned. How’d that go?
“You without sin, cast the first stone.”
No man could throw even a pebble. Nobody even spit.
Well, I have to agree with Jesus because he was expressing what many women have found extremely unfair for years. And then, when giving permission, they started doing what Socrates advised so many years ago…and that was: “The unexamined life is not worth living.”
Many women started examining their lives. Some of them found their lives, when it came to men, really could use a little improvement.
They wanted to be independent like men, and get the same pay for the same work—and not be called a slut every other second in the gym locker room if they happened to have on shorts bought at the mall that day, which was of course the latest fashion and the only thing to be seen in, not to mention…the only thing being sold.
So, why do I bring this up at all? Because philosophically speaking, the “women’s” movement is basically why all the men were being attacked.
Instead of some diabolical movement for women to take over the world… it REALLY was installed as a political movement that had been done in communist countries all over the world.
Get the women in the work force. How do you do that? Make them all equal sluts.
And still this “Equality in Slutness,” goes on. Get them all to watch “Sex in the City.” Create Sodom and Gomorrah in downtown.
The family will break down. No respect anywhere. The state takes control.
So, next time you go thinking about calling some girl a “slut,” remember you are contributing to the vast planned political movement that is tearing America apart.
You might also think of what Jesus said—Have you been one? If so, then maybe reconsider.
Look in the mirror. After all, if P.J. O’Roake can write that wonderful novel on our Congress called, “Parliament of Whores:”
You can call yourself a …well…whatever you are…you know it. And if you don’t mind, then I don’t either.
Philosophically speaking of course, Jesus would be proud of your revelation. And he’d be even more proud if you were a man and cast the first stone at the hypocracy of “slutness.”
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June 13th, 2007 at 8:33 am
I think it’s the case that 95+% of the time the word “slut” is used, it’s used by one woman referring to another because it’s important to women to be to sex what OPEC is to oil: keep the supply down and the price up. The trick, for lack of a better word, is for women to capitalize on their sexual power without actually putting any supply on the market, which is why the hint of there maybe being a free sample (aka dancing sexy) is so much a part of the strategy.
The male analogue to a slut IMO is not a rapist but a man who dates women the way a traditional suitor would and gets little in return (i.e., is “just a good friend”).
And I don’t think half the men in the world are Muslims. Maybe only 20% if I recall my figures correctly (1.2 out of 6 billion people).
June 13th, 2007 at 10:24 am
“And despite the fact that there are many men that not only FIT this word and its attributes with more perfection than many women: when a man is an adulterer, a fornicator, a man with loose morals…instead of ostracizing him from the crowd of humanity, most of the time he is basically admired for his prowess.
He is not a slut…he is a stud.”
This is not a double standard……any woman no matter how ugly or fat can have sex anytime she wants to…..all she has to do is ask for it.
No man no matter how good looking or wealthy can have sex when ever he wants it….he has to WORK for it (prostitutes excluded)
This is NOT a double standard.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:27 am
“I imagine the word “slut” has been around since the first time some woman was raped in the desert in order to get some more camel milk.”
Are you implying that the woman had sex in exchange for camel milk?….That makes her a whore/prostitute not a rape victim.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:29 am
I suggest you look at this website….its parody but for the most part its RIGHT
http://www.intellectualwhores.com
Read the Ladder theory
June 13th, 2007 at 10:39 am
“Yet…when men are falsely accused of being sluts (rapists) (as in the Duke Case) there was an outcry for all the damage done to those poor boy’s reputation, as there should have been.”
So now your associating being a slut (which no matter what your opinion of them being a slut is a choice and involves consentual activity.)
Being a rapist is a crime….it is NOT the male version of a slut. Being falsely accused of being a rapist lands you at the very least as the subject of a police investigation and most likely in jail……being falsely accused of being a slut at most hurts your feelings.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:41 am
“So, next time you go thinking about calling some girl a “slut,” remember you are contributing to the vast planned political movement that is tearing America apart.”
Actually if I call a girl/woman a slut…..I am probably just being honest.
June 13th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
It’s very simple.
If you wish to get rid of that kind of man (for the most part) all women have to do is stop rewarding such behavior with sex.
You ladies are at the point where you’ve driven the fathers out of lives, and marginalized them, and made “macho masculinity” (Of the kind that would have smacked a young man down for treating a woman in such a way) a term of derision and scorn.
Take your “sisters” to task. Stop letting feminists speak for you. Shut them up.
We’re really tired of western women making us men the whipping boy for all the ills of civilization. And we don’t care to hear it anymore, especially when every effort we make to correct it gets us shrill and strident lectures about “Casting the first stone” and being whiners.
IOW, Joy – lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.
June 13th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Gee Gonzman…so what you are saying is that it’s the girl’s fault for “rewarding” the man with “sex?”
He is not responsible in any way?
Boy, either you did not read what point I was trying to make, or comprehend it, or even care to..being brainwashed with “feministic” propaganda.
Okay…feminists do not speak for me…I was going back over some of the earlier points of what it was like to all of a sudden, come to “puberty” in the sixties, and find, instead of the usual “women should be in the home” a whole new world where women could “be somebody too.”
Frankly, I found it refreshing. I still do, and I don’t apologize for it. AND most importantly, I do not think that woman could have in any way compete with men on many levels…but on other levels they can.
I like to think that men and women should be like a business…who is the best at what chores…and work together. Who cares who is better at math, or making money, or taking the trash out? Work it out.
We all know there are idiots in both genders. It’s the ones that are guiding the educational system and polticial system that is keeping us all back.
You cannot compare…and that’s obvious.
I do not blame men for that “movement” at all. In fact…as we see now, it backfired horribly. And maybe you did not get to the last where I mention that the whole thing had a political motive.
Did you?
My intention was to make the point that there has been a different set of rules for women.
ANd I have found in my experience that men of ability, intelligence, and common sense have NEVER had any problem at all working with women as their peers…in accordance with whatever problem is trying to be solved…
I have come to the conclusion, having known many of these kind of men, that they accept themselves, their lives, and reality. If a woman is the best in her field, he could care less…he just wants to work with her.
Women, on the other hand cannot expect equal pay when they are out of the workforce raising kids…they need to get a grip on that.
MartianB…interesting concept! But, by market value…women, prostitution and porm are not exactly kept off the market…because men go by “visual” they are used to sell everything…sex sells. In fact, in the case of Paris Hilton and the news..the market is overplayed.
I guess you are talking about “dating’ right?
You are right when it comes to dating. It’s known to women too that unless she “gives” out sooner or later she will be tossed. Not much to be done about that…and some girls really milk that to the core.
Bad for both genders.
That’s another idea to discuss…thanks…
Virtue: …yes, anyone can have sex anytime…that’s not what I was saying. I was trying to make the point that if a man has a lot of sex, he is admired, whereas the woman’s value as a person, has gone down.
Okay, let’s not say a double standard…let’s say it’s not right, and unfair.
You’re turn.
The camel milk was a “joke” guys. Loosen up. But, back then a woman WAS completely depended on a man. ANd I guess I would even give sex if I was starving…it has happened all throughout history…and not only to women.
Now, as to the Duke case…yes…rape is a “crime” I see your point there. but it was just naturally assumed by many because she was a “stripper.” performing for thier sexual entertainment, that the men might have been guilty.
Thank God the many good men on this site hollared and screamed. They helped win a very big victory….
Which brings me back to my original intention, meant to point out…that it should not only be up to women to uphold morals….the men on this site and many women too went to bat for those guys.
Morals.
The men that protested against this injustice should do the same when women are accused.
I’d get more into this on another blog as I’m in the middle of my work day..but…you say woman are not hurt by this?
My father calling me a slut at seventeen did a hell of a lot of damage to my whole conception of self confidence.
Now, just imigine fathers raping thier daughters.
Men should lead more moral lives also. Pretty simple concept…
Also…guys…when you attack someone personally, you only weaken your own argument.
I’m presenting a “woman’s” point of view…I made my living working with all men, and find dismissing half the human race as always at fault for whatever, let’s just say it’s not a very well thought out resonable argument.
I consider myself a independent of all parties…men, woman and political…
I’m just trying to get to the answers.
Refute the issue, not the person. Let’s look at all sides.
Besides guys…if you think I’m the enemy..then you’d might want to listen if you want to “win.” It sound to me, from reading the anger on this site, that many answers need to be found.
But you must be willing to listen to arugments, even if they don’t fit your ideal of what you want.
I just saw a good movie about this men’s stuff…with Nicolas Cage…the Weatherman…you might want to rent it some night…it makes you think.
It’s a good “men’s” movie.
Oh, and about that Mulim number…I will go look it up, but I did read recently that Muslims religion has the other religions outnumbered.
I will try to find more time, in these “men’s issues.” Forgive me for being sleepy. Since I write in my spare time late at night, sometimes I just don’t have the time to “edit” but, I’ll try harder.
Thanks for all comments.
June 13th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
You’re spitting out the same feminist propaganda and lies that “Women have ALWAYS been sexually repressed, and men have NEVER had anyone look down for them for having as much sex as they could!”
It’s bunk. Go ask someone who was alive and on the dating scene prior to Betty Freidan, and you will find that not only were men expected to be gentlemen, they were no man at all if they weren’t; and if they “ruined” a girl, the pressure was on them to marry her. Nowadays the oops moment and marriage trap is pregnancy – then it was being caught in the mere act of foreplay. At least as a tramp you were still a woman.
You can’t make a valid argument from a false premise. It’s the same thing – no matter who erudite you are – if you based a diatribe off the long debunked “rule of thumb” canard.
You want morality? A little sense of shame? We used to have it, but lawzy! Den Ol’ Missy Steinem, she chased away dat ol debbil “Patriarchy!” Who argued against those things going away? Men. Who got shamed with catcalls of “being afraid of strong women?” Men.
Who stood by in silent complicity while we got shouted down? All those women who “Feminism didn’t speak for.” Who would also be the same bunch who “tsk, tsked” and raised the “You Meanies! Picking on girls!” chorus when we did fight back.
Different set of rules for women these days? You betcha. She cries “Rape!” and she instantly becomes an icon of truth no matter how often she has cried wolf. She wants to “be a single mother” and effectively makes a fatherless child? Heroine! Man makes a fatherless child? Deadbeat!
Can’t “ruin” HER life by making her an unwilling parent, no, no. He should have “Kept in in his pants. And even if he did, and the summons to paternity court got sent to the false address given – hey – get a default judgement, wait two years, and then … oooooh, so solly, cholly.
No to mention, buy a set of heels, stocking, and a wig and you too can shoot your husband in the back while he’s sleeping, yank the phone out of the wall, and run off with the kids while he dies over a period of hours. Get caught? Shed a tear, hold up the wig and stuff, and BINGO! Get out of jail! Abuse! Abuse! No going to war if you don’t want to, cry “discrimination!” and get that job you don’t deserve, keep that job you should lose, or get that promotion you haven’t earned… God Bless Affirmative Action!
And if you destroy your marriage? Well, that’s easy. DFab on a little makeup, go down to the courthouse, and sniffle, quiver that lower lip, say “I’m … I’m … I’m AFWAID!” and out he goes – you get the house, car, kids, bank account and backdoor alimony – if not the real thing. What that bastard gets for coming home and catching you banging the pool boy.
Yeah – trade you double standards. Any day of the week. Let’s see – if I’m not discreet about my sex life, I’ll get called a name.
Life is just rough, ain’t it?
We’ll be happy to discuss issues. Wanna put some out there instead of feminist propaganda and urban legends?
June 13th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
First of all:
Joy A wrote:
You’re quite correct, thoughtless remarks made by those closest to us can do immense (and most likely, unintended or at least one would hope) damage.
However, with respect to this issue, in my experience it is not men who most frequently use the epithet “slut”. I don’t believe I have ever used this epithet myself but have observed that groups of women often describe other women this way (usually when the subject is not present)
The truly obscene part about the behaviour of women who use this epithet is that it is not the woman who gives of her affections widely and freely who is treating sex like a financial transaction, rather it is the women who resent her for damaging the economic power of their own bodies who are treating sex like a financial transaction in which they dole out their affections sparingly and in return for advantage.
I suppose I just skated dangerously close to calling such women “sluts” myself, though that was not my intention. It is indeed a dangerous and damaging double standard and with regard to sexual behaviour I reserve my ire for those people (male and female) who make promises of exclusiveness then betray their partner.
This is the wrong that society ought to scorn and the people who commit this wrong are those that should be ostracized and pilloried for their lack of honor.
June 13th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
DrDamage,
I agree with you!
I have heard lots of women call other women “Sluts”.
I sick to death of delusional characters blaming us guys for their own behaviour.
Other women have much more of an idea of how a certain woman is behaving than us blokes.
Of course it is in women’s interests to keep sex in short supply and us blokes uncertain as to whether we are going to get it or not. Yep that is the great patriarchial conspiracy. When in reality it is a Matriarchial conspiracy.
June 13th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Slut…stud…enough said.
June 13th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
“Its never the girls fault” is a throw back to the days when women were treated as children…
“its never the girls fault” is this progress for women???????
June 13th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
I have read enough of Joy’s work to know that she can see the trees as well as the woods and have a sound impression of a well balanced woman. So when such a shriek comes our way, I read carefully. There is a hell of a lot of pain there, spilling over into righteous anger.
Who it is that calls us names and insults us, matters more than the words used. There used to be a time when Fathers loved their daughters and daughters thought the sun shone from Daddy’s backside. For a father to call his daughter a slut is a terrible thing and the pain caused can last for years and tears. I bet even Paris Hilton’s parents don’t call her a slut.
There is an ongoing row in Australia about a lad who was held until this month in Gitmo. His father recognises that the lad did wrong but by God he still stands by him. Fiercely. Fathers do wrong when they deliberately hurt their children. Remonstration for wrong doing may well be appropriate but care is needed and demanded if the relationship is to survive. Loyalty and support is what Fathers need to give their children.
Frankly, Joy’s father needs a sound box around the ear from an adult.
Mindless? Yes. Maybe a momentary lapse in some cases, but from the anecdote that he encouraged the son to sow wild oats like a friggin’ loon says otherwise. It was stupidity.
Double standard? You bet your arse its a double standard. I recognise that many use ’stud’ as a faux-praise. Buggered if I can see why though. Most men that I have seen or known who have been called that were thick shits for whom one would be hard pressed to find any other praiseworthy words.
Yes there are women with loose morals. It isn’t the having sex business though. Go for it, I say. Enjoy. No, its the whole personality and behaviour hanging together that marks a woman gone bad.
You in America may reflect a little on the observation that it is mainly in America that these terms are used with such frequency and ease. Other English-speaking countries are more circumspect in such labels.
“When was the last time you remember some girl being called a “slut” (falsely) and anyone even caring about it?”
Just the other day, actually. As pointed out elsewhere, it is a term more used by women than men and in this instance it was a woman I know and like using the term against another woman I know and dislike. I remonstrated with her. In fact I got quite annoyed at her ease of use and indiscriminate calumny.
There is a world of difference between a growing girl discovering her sexuality and a Rude Nasty Girl destroying all around her with her outrages. A Father who can’t tell the difference didn’t ought to be raising daughters. He can ruin an otherwise adventurous, loving girl turning her into a harridan, or worse. He can easily, at least, cause immesurable pain to a young woman who otherwise would have held him in much higher regard.
As for all the ‘tit for tat’ that is going on here, well Joy did start it with some introduced provocative sidebars. Nevertheless, let’s be careful with the stones, everyone.
Joy is a good woman. I am upset that she is in pain.
June 13th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
All women are slut, all women are sows!
Now that I’ve got your attention I’ll try to show what I belive is the fundamental problem with this article and what can be done to help the womem commonly refered to as sluts.
I believe the article above is based on a common but incorrect premise.
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And despite the fact that there are many men that not only FIT this word and its attributes with more perfection than many women: when a man is an adulterer, a fornicator, a man with loose morals…instead of ostracizing him from the crowd of humanity, most of the time he is basically admired for his prowess.
He is not a slut…he is a stud.
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This is common thinking, but also obviously incorrect! ALL MEN ARE PIGS. As the saying goes, if I had a dollar for every time I heard that one or variations thereof, I would be a rich guy. The answer to the question simply varies on who you ask. This view about man is so common and pervasive that sometimes people don’t even bother calling men pigs, they just say “Typical male” to imply scron about a man sleeping around.
When the above says “…instead of ostracizing him from the crowd of humanity”, she is not talking about humanity she is talking about men (btw, I think MRAs types should notice things like this because this type of mistake lends credence to some of the feminists arguments about bias in language, in this particular case however I don’t think the feminists will complain much this case since forgetting about women when talking about humanity allows for men to be blamed for being unfair).
Symply put a more correct generalization than one contained in the article would be:
qw = what do you think of women that sleep around?
qm = what do you think of men that sleep around?
1)ask qw to men = slut
2)ask qw to women = slut
3)ask qm to men = stud
4)ask qm to women = pig
Ask women what they think of a guy that sleeps around, you won’t get a nice answer, sure she might still sleep with him, just like a guy will call a girl a slut but still will sleep with her.
If this is what we consider a great situation for males, this shows a few of things:
Men that sleep around are studs to other men but are viewed with disgust by women.
Women that sleep around are sluts to men but also sluts to women.
The thing in common with both sexes is that they both have a negative view of the opposite sex sleeping around !!
Now building on what both men and women have in common. If women truly wants sluts not to be treated with disgust, then they just need to stop treating women that sleep around with disgust. They don’t need to worry about what men think. Men, just like women can continue to think that the opposite sex sleeping around is a reprehensible thing.
Its actually simple, slutness carries a price, and if enough women do it, the price will be that men will get to say “all women are sluts” and be able to get away with it the same way women can say that “all men are pigs”. (what is enough women? I think in industrialized country we’ve reached that number but I’ll let you think about that one..)
In short, if women want it to be OK to sleep around they just need to stop blaming men for being the cause that its not OK for them to sleep around and start accepting responsibility for their action by not giving a hard time to women that sleep around. Anyone that has had the pleasure (or displeasure) to meet women truly deserving of the slut appellation has probably notice one thing, they travel in packs and amongst that clique sleeping with many guys is cool, and the expression “you slut” is said with fondness. We just need more of that attitude from more women and the problem solved! Its OK for a woman to be a sluts. Of course, slutness carries a penalty and if that penalty is as heavy as it is for men, I might become OK to say “All women are sluts”, or maybe to be fair I should say “all men are pigs”, “all women are sows”.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:23 pm
Whew! Now…that was fun! Amfortas, my dad has long died, and I long ago forgave him for that period in his life.
And I learned from all of this. It seems women nowadays are going into the vindictive calling other women “sluts.” …well, that’s good news. (tongue in cheek)
That means that not only am I mistaking as a “feminist” (which is a big insult if you knew me) I have probably being called a slut at this very moment by most of the females in my neiborhood.
Things are looking up. I really wanted to be called a stud. Feel free.
Well, I wanted to do an article on a men’s issue…and get everyone talking..so that’s good. But…never once do I blame men or women for anything…for goodness sakes, we are all just the sum total of our experiences…and whatever forces that have made us.
Some of you must remember…I was born around the time of the first Crusade…(right before amfortas) it will take me some time to catch up.
So…a toast to all pigs and sows…! My we all oink on!
June 14th, 2007 at 3:10 am
Slut
June 14th, 2007 at 5:49 am
Women sleeping around too much means we don’t know who the father is, meaning the bastard child has a grim, dim, fatherless future. DNA paternity testing may help, but what assurance does the father have that the next child of a slut is going to be his, and what happens to the first child when the second child has a different daddy, and the third, and the fourth?
Men don’t naturally accept responsibility for another man’s child – never did, never will. It is basic simple human nature, no matter how much we try to subvert it with anti-male laws, shaming, and propaganda. The solution is time-tested, proven effective, and simple. Instead of blaming men for human nature, just deride a slut as a slut for acting like a slut, and have her take some responsibility for her actions and the consequences those actions have on others.
Or, we could say to hell with men, children, and human nature, and focus on “reproductive freedom for women”, or sluthood without consequences. That’s good for sluts, for a while at least, and lousy for men, children, and society. But in a feminarcissist matriarchy like we have today, there aren’t many who really care. In fact, today we are more likely to deride those who call a slut a slut, and that might even be the basis of an article somewhere, just in time for father’s day. Now, we must not hurt the feelings of sluts, otherwise they will become “victims” of their own sluthood, forced to accept some consequences for their own actions in a society where rights are for women, responsibility is for men, and to hell with children.
June 14th, 2007 at 11:38 am
You guys are absolutely right. I feel like I’m floating on a sea of “I’m told how to think, and all women in the world are just out to get me, those sluts. Thanks for all the cool new words I can now use to get empowered!”
Not very original— not really very different than the “women’s” movement that I went through in the sixties. All men were “chauvanists.” Now all women are “feminarcissist.” Which gives the the feminists a reason to make up a new word….how about “chauvanego’s” (or Ego’s)
It doesn’t affect me, but…be sure to tell your father to die first. If your mother finds out how much you hate women, she might decide to use all the money for a trip around the world.
The next thing will be “all kids are bad.” In 2005, there will be a kids site where they can complain about how badly their parents have done them wrong. All parents will become “the enemy” and the kids will be shouting “parenthitlers!…I demand my rights! ”
Name calling…what fun!
I especially loved Ed’s comment. That took a lot of thought. Good for you Ed, keep it up, but next time I’d appreciate it if you called me an American slut. I mean, after all, it’s only one more word..and I’d do the same for you.
Unless of course you’d prefer to be called just slut. It’s your choice.
You know, I always wondered why men would refuse to wear rubbers…now I see it’s because those men wanted a reason to complain.
(O00000…Braveheart picks a fight.) OR is it (nobody wonders if maybe we need welfare for men.)
Having said that…just becaue i’m a woman, doesn’t mean I don’t think the courts are unfair and really screwed up, that women can’t be just as ruthless as men, or that Hillary isn’t out to turn the country into somekind of feminist socialist cesspool….
You think it’s bad now.
I just wish more of you would aim your anger at HER, it would be much more productive. If you can’t save yourselves, then at least work for the next generation of men. And attacking “women” will not get anything accomplished…but going after the system that is being crammed down all our throats will help.
But then again….divide and conquer is the rule, and men and women, no doubt have been divided big time, the family MUST be broken, for the state to rule.
June 14th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
Joyanna, Virtue said women can have sex anytime they wanted…you answered by saying, “yes Virtue anyone can have sex anytime the want”. His point as stated stands, and if you think anyone can have sex anytime they want it then how does anything get done, men would be shagging in the stairwell at work, on commuter buses, in city parks, etc. How many gay bath houses for women are there?
“Women can be just as ruthless as men”???????????
As to the elusive uniting of conservatives against Hillary, the problems most of the men here face are not addressed in current national discourse. Until one is touched by the evil of misandry in society by virtue of family law politics looks very important. Once cast aside, men begin to see the micro as more important than the macro. Hillary Care vs. Romney Care…who gives a friggin rip when you live under a bridge to PAY, or you live in jail while accruing what you must PAY….when you are a visitor to your kids, when you realize that millions of precious moments, small discussions about their day, firsts occuring…the first date, kiss, drive, whatever, and you cannot sit on the couch and savor. No, I’d say even the tax rate and the war in Iraq, while profound, cannot crown these matters from mans heart.
Thats why this site has evolved more to the 1st Husbands Club. The whining can get shrill and even annoying. But overarching is serious righteous anger and pain.
Which leads me to say….
Amfortas, please, stay with whats written and not some sort of imagined empathy (deserved or otherwise) reading between the lines. You and Joyanna can still be friends even if you take exception to what she says occasionally.
June 14th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Well…it’s the laws you need to change right? And the women’s movement from the sixties is what started this whole mess.
SO…therefore, when a man is being deprived of his children…then the laws must be attacked. That’s why I suggested in a recent ariticle that men start protecting themselves with Prenups.
Also, because of the “sexual revolution” lots of out of wedlock babies were born…which forced many women to get into the work force…which started the women complaining about “men”…..which, in reviewing the whole mess was started by design.
How many of you remember the “disco” scene?
Sure, it’s hard to concentrate on the politics of your country when your in “jail” or you are missing your kids….
And that’s exactly why so many women got ‘angry” in the sixties. Here they were told to go out and “be like men” and then they ended up pregnant, and having to work and raise kids alone.
As Vox Poppoli said…why get married at all? That’s become the mens’ mantra.
So..where does that leave the American family…? You guessed it…right in the control of the new world order.
Has this been planned? Nobody knows. (but there is Lots of evidence if you want to look for it.)
I tend to see it more politically and economically because I lived through my own pain of divorce, and my own frustration with the many women I come into contact with daily who are just plain idiots. You would not believe the many “feminists” I fought with on school boards, teachers, they are so…brainwashed. And they have been programmed to think that they are superior….it makes one wonder if there are sensible thinking people at all.
But, there are…all over the place. On this site. On many internet sites. It’s great…all you need to do is have an open mind and read. Like Bob Parks, who reads all the liberal sites, and reads them.
Read his piece on the blog now, Bob is a good man, and a great thinker.
Having said that, I am a REAL sucker for an intelligent man. Whoa baby. Look out. Where’s my red lipstick? Where’s my push up bra?
Which is why amfortas and I probably tend to see things more eye to eye.
We are older. And hey, amfortas, unlike me…is VERY highly educated, he has Phd’s out the wazoo…so I forever listen to his point of view…and he doesn’t always agree with me…but then, you wouldn’t know that if you have not read me every day.
Besides…amfortas actually to me, understands what I’m trying to say, and answers, not only me, but everyone on the blog to the point of the piece.
I love to read anything he has to say about anyone’s stuff.
He can be really funny, and bring up points that no one has thought of. AND may I say, to side with a woman on a men’s site takes lots of courage…and courage is a good thing to have. That’s why it’s always best to keep your sense of humor…it’s easy to do, and it feels good.
It’s has taken me loads of courage to say my opinion here…because it’s not going to be popular with men that are in such emotional pain. It brings back my own pain which I prefer to put behind me…and that’ not always easy when you are trying to make a point, and the only thing you have to go by is your own experience.
But when Will quit because of all the comments, I thought…hey wait…what’s wrong with this picture?
Some people seem to read just a little, and don’t finish, or speed read, or maybe are in just so much pain, they don’t take the time to understand what you are trying to say.
Anyone who has actually read anything I’ve written, could not say at any time that I have attacked men. In fact, all my friends are men…I have only two true women friends.
When my first husband left,…one day with no explanation except that he wanted to “find himself.” I was left pregnant, with a small boy to raise, no money from him to help out…and wo a job or any skills besides being a “entertainer”
Try to get hired as a pregnant entertainer.
At the time, he took the only car we had, (and he got due to my good credit not his) He was making over 50,000..he reprimended me.
He didn’t want to pay any support at all…I should go out and get a job and support myself and my kid he said…I was lazy if I didn’t. I did that.
But, I can’t say it didn’t make me angry at the time….still I put the blame on myself for being so stupid and naive that I didnt’ see the “mistake” I had made for marrying him in the first place.
Sure, I got child support…but I had to go and collect it. He made three times the salary, and he paid $75.00 a week. I never saw the medical or the insurance or the other stuff in the degree…so…well, there you go. So see, it can work both ways. It has more often than you might think.
AND..I really hate talking and bitching about it. It’s stupid. I met a bad apple. The guys on the blogs have met really rotten apples.
So, if a man is just in too much pain to function, or think about the fact that his little girl is being brainwashed in school, or that his son is being drugged in school…and he has no power to do a thing about it…then the only power he has is to get together with other men *AND WOMEN and change the laws.
And when the socialist/facists take over…that’s going to be harder.
The women, who suffered from divorces too…(maybe not now but in my day it wasn’t easy) are still suffering, because to go through life without the warmth, the strength, the wisdom, the companionship…and not to mention all the other goodies that comes with a man..is just too sad.
I have witness what divorce has done to women too. But it was the political systems of Gloria, Betty, and Hillary, that made way for this mess.
I didn’t find out till Bill Clinton’s impeachment that they were all almost card carrying communists. They kept that secret well hidden.
None of them would want to meet THIS nobody…they have ruined too many AMERICAN women.
I am conservative, I believe in “god”, I believe in America, and I believe in both men and women….but they need to unit.
And kindness goes alot farther than critizism. Even John Adams learned that when he was teaching. If you think women are stupid…then putting them down will get you nowhere.
This country would have never been formed if the men in the Continental Congress did not have civilized conversations. And if you read any of John Adams diaries…he had a hard time not telling half of them off, but he saw the big picture ahead. And thank goodness he did.
You know, I have a brother…(I talk about him in the piece above) and I watched him being adored by women his whole life. His secret was easy…he just adores them all. Fat, ugly, stupid, pretty, any and all would die for him.
Never mind that his “count” probably amounts to half the state…I adore him too. He is funny, and just can’t help himself. THat was his talent from God.
I don’t think he even knows what the word feminist means. The movement came and went…and he had a great time. If you asked him now…he doesn’t even know a feminists. He just loves women…all of them. No matter what.
And his sister pretty much loves men. But…having said that…he was much better looking and had a distinct advantage.
Maybe I’ll go talk to him.
He had compassion.
And by that I do not mean the compassion that we have gotten from George W. Bush.
Also…since my pain from my first marriage is so long ago…my anger is not as intense. That’s why it’s so much easier for me to see both sides.
So…on with the debate. Thanks conservatism for taking the time to comment. You’re a good man.
So guys, when I write on “feminists” issues, tell me your pain…your experiences…get it out of your system. I don’t mind.
But also remember, I’m not your enemy. I’m just a nobody who is trying to deal with her own issues of getting older in a society where Angelina Jolie is the norm, and I happen to love oreo cookies.
June 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
I am not surprised….when ever I bring up the points I made in my above post I have yet to meet a woman who didn’t change the subject…..Hell most men want to change the subject