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		<title>By: steven deluca</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44455</link>
		<dc:creator>steven deluca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is continually missed in the debates about money is the pain and suffering of men who die of miners lung, or from forestry accidents, or from wounds, injuries in combat.

Ellan Goodman and others discuss how horrid the workplace was in the 60&#039;s so much discrimination against women, she didn&#039;t get the corner office with a view, but while many of her male peers lost their lives - or eyesight and wouldn&#039;t appreciate the view from the corner office, women like Goodman, who are stars in their careers pretend that men all get that corner office, big promotions and never once do they discuss male injuries or deaths - how much LOST income by men resulted from 58,000 dying in Viet Nam.  (My personal peeve while living with a 100% disability from the army and while knowing that many veterans disabilities are far worse than mine.  What can you do after 100% if a man is crippled, blind, war torn... you can&#039;t give them 200% but some should have that... 

Also, on Fox, someone should ask that Warren Farrell&#039;s book &quot;Why Men Earn More&quot; should be in every feminist public classroom that is teaching the only reason men earn more is discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is continually missed in the debates about money is the pain and suffering of men who die of miners lung, or from forestry accidents, or from wounds, injuries in combat.</p>
<p>Ellan Goodman and others discuss how horrid the workplace was in the 60&#8217;s so much discrimination against women, she didn&#8217;t get the corner office with a view, but while many of her male peers lost their lives &#8211; or eyesight and wouldn&#8217;t appreciate the view from the corner office, women like Goodman, who are stars in their careers pretend that men all get that corner office, big promotions and never once do they discuss male injuries or deaths &#8211; how much LOST income by men resulted from 58,000 dying in Viet Nam.  (My personal peeve while living with a 100% disability from the army and while knowing that many veterans disabilities are far worse than mine.  What can you do after 100% if a man is crippled, blind, war torn&#8230; you can&#8217;t give them 200% but some should have that&#8230; </p>
<p>Also, on Fox, someone should ask that Warren Farrell&#8217;s book &#8220;Why Men Earn More&#8221; should be in every feminist public classroom that is teaching the only reason men earn more is discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dias</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44449</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.foxnews.com/polls/poll_results/bg_results_business.jpg__basic_2101.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here are the latest poll results&lt;/a&gt; on the debate.&lt;/b&gt;  Looks like Marc won, hands down.

I cannot believe that Lis speaks with such passion, as if she believes wholeheartedly in what she&#039;s saying.  That&#039;s scary, that she would actually say that men excel when women give them direction.  The next time she tries that, she needs to be called on it.

And what&#039;s with Cavuto and his self-deprecating manner when he talks about whether his wife would approve?  He&#039;s the freakin&#039; host!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www2.foxnews.com/polls/poll_results/bg_results_business.jpg__basic_2101.htm" rel="nofollow">Here are the latest poll results</a> on the debate.</b>  Looks like Marc won, hands down.</p>
<p>I cannot believe that Lis speaks with such passion, as if she believes wholeheartedly in what she&#8217;s saying.  That&#8217;s scary, that she would actually say that men excel when women give them direction.  The next time she tries that, she needs to be called on it.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s with Cavuto and his self-deprecating manner when he talks about whether his wife would approve?  He&#8217;s the freakin&#8217; host!!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc H. Rudov</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44298</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc H. Rudov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wms2.streamhoster.com/mhrudov/RudovRap_061707.wmv&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rudov Rap by Genderwar.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the <em><strong><a href="http://wms2.streamhoster.com/mhrudov/RudovRap_061707.wmv" rel="nofollow">Rudov Rap by Genderwar.org</a></strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Marc H. Rudov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc H. Rudov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen:

The only &quot;gap&quot; I will continue to discuss is the reality gap. Too many lofty terms get lost in the white noise. Certain words and phrases work well on TV; others don&#039;t. 

People will remember my comment about women having no experience paying child support but lots of experience paying Victoria Secret. Did you see Lis&#039;s reaction? People will remember that I implied that Lis doesn&#039;t think (that comment upset my mother, but I don&#039;t care).

The next time Lis complains about being underpaid, I have a special rejoinder planned. Stay tuned for continued fireworks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen:</p>
<p>The only &#8220;gap&#8221; I will continue to discuss is the reality gap. Too many lofty terms get lost in the white noise. Certain words and phrases work well on TV; others don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>People will remember my comment about women having no experience paying child support but lots of experience paying Victoria Secret. Did you see Lis&#8217;s reaction? People will remember that I implied that Lis doesn&#8217;t think (that comment upset my mother, but I don&#8217;t care).</p>
<p>The next time Lis complains about being underpaid, I have a special rejoinder planned. Stay tuned for continued fireworks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I can even call this a debate in that it seemed that all Lis did was spout off bigoted, sexist nonsense. Unfortunately, this bigoted nonsense is taught on college campuses nationwide (which is undoubtedly where she &quot;learned&quot; it). Men aren&#039;t put down as emergency contacts? Come on. We&#039;re pretty good at &quot;honey-do&quot; lists?  And we don&#039;t know where the laundry detergent is? Normally, I just think Lis is wrong. This time, she was downright insulting. Does she even know any men? I have a solution for Lis: If she thinks men don&#039;t do enough cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc., well, us men can just stay single. Because, for me personally at least, I was much less busy when I was single. 

Here&#039;s the thing that I think people like Lis just don&#039;t understand, and that&#039;s the sheer responsibility men feel for providing for themselves and others. I really, really don&#039;t think most women get this. When women take a job, the mindset behind it is often to supplement the family income (for those who are still married). My parents&#039; relationship is like this, as is mine. I don&#039;t recall my father ever taking a sick day. He went to work consistently, and unfailingly, despite hating his job. My mother took sick days when she wasn&#039;t even sick, but simply didn&#039;t feel like going to work.

Men worry about keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table, while women, apparently (based on Lis&#039; comments), keep score about who is doing the laundry more often. If a family faces a financial crisis, who has to deal with it? It&#039;s going to be the man who has to take an extra job, work extra hours, sell his prized possession, etc. to make sure his family is secure. And, if the family decides that they make enough money so someone can cut back on work, it&#039;s usually the woman who quits her job or drops to part-time. 

But, of course, women may have to pick up a sick child from school sick once or twice a year (which men apparently never do), so I guess it all evens out.  

I also like how Lis didn&#039;t seem to disturbed about her inconsistent income disparity figure. That&#039;s nice. If the figure is true, then it certainly matters what the correct number is. If it&#039;s a bunch of BS, well, then you can just throw any old number out there, can&#039;t you?

I do love women, but Lis is depressing if she represents anything more than a tiny minority of women. She&#039;s practically exhibit A on why men shouldn&#039;t get married. 

Lis was terrible in this debate (to the extent that you can even call her performance a &quot;debate&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I can even call this a debate in that it seemed that all Lis did was spout off bigoted, sexist nonsense. Unfortunately, this bigoted nonsense is taught on college campuses nationwide (which is undoubtedly where she &#8220;learned&#8221; it). Men aren&#8217;t put down as emergency contacts? Come on. We&#8217;re pretty good at &#8220;honey-do&#8221; lists?  And we don&#8217;t know where the laundry detergent is? Normally, I just think Lis is wrong. This time, she was downright insulting. Does she even know any men? I have a solution for Lis: If she thinks men don&#8217;t do enough cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc., well, us men can just stay single. Because, for me personally at least, I was much less busy when I was single. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing that I think people like Lis just don&#8217;t understand, and that&#8217;s the sheer responsibility men feel for providing for themselves and others. I really, really don&#8217;t think most women get this. When women take a job, the mindset behind it is often to supplement the family income (for those who are still married). My parents&#8217; relationship is like this, as is mine. I don&#8217;t recall my father ever taking a sick day. He went to work consistently, and unfailingly, despite hating his job. My mother took sick days when she wasn&#8217;t even sick, but simply didn&#8217;t feel like going to work.</p>
<p>Men worry about keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table, while women, apparently (based on Lis&#8217; comments), keep score about who is doing the laundry more often. If a family faces a financial crisis, who has to deal with it? It&#8217;s going to be the man who has to take an extra job, work extra hours, sell his prized possession, etc. to make sure his family is secure. And, if the family decides that they make enough money so someone can cut back on work, it&#8217;s usually the woman who quits her job or drops to part-time. </p>
<p>But, of course, women may have to pick up a sick child from school sick once or twice a year (which men apparently never do), so I guess it all evens out.  </p>
<p>I also like how Lis didn&#8217;t seem to disturbed about her inconsistent income disparity figure. That&#8217;s nice. If the figure is true, then it certainly matters what the correct number is. If it&#8217;s a bunch of BS, well, then you can just throw any old number out there, can&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>I do love women, but Lis is depressing if she represents anything more than a tiny minority of women. She&#8217;s practically exhibit A on why men shouldn&#8217;t get married. </p>
<p>Lis was terrible in this debate (to the extent that you can even call her performance a &#8220;debate&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: scottkirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ray...spending gap...legal responseability gap....we can work with these!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ray&#8230;spending gap&#8230;legal responseability gap&#8230;.we can work with these!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Blumhorst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Blumhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next time Lis Wiehl brings up &quot;the wage gap.&quot;  I would love to see  these real gaps, that men (and boys) face, presented to her:

&lt;b&gt;Gender-compassion gap

Disposability-gap (includes the suicide and work-fatality gaps)

Spending gap

Legal-responsibility gap

Chivalry gap
 
LIfe-expectancy gap&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks to Darrin of NCFM for making this list and sending it to me.  As he stated, I&#039;m sure there are more gaps for men that could go on that list.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next time Lis Wiehl brings up &#8220;the wage gap.&#8221;  I would love to see  these real gaps, that men (and boys) face, presented to her:</p>
<p><b>Gender-compassion gap</p>
<p>Disposability-gap (includes the suicide and work-fatality gaps)</p>
<p>Spending gap</p>
<p>Legal-responsibility gap</p>
<p>Chivalry gap</p>
<p>LIfe-expectancy gap</b></p>
<p><em>Thanks to Darrin of NCFM for making this list and sending it to me.  As he stated, I&#8217;m sure there are more gaps for men that could go on that list.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dittohd</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44244</link>
		<dc:creator>Dittohd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DadWith2Girls,

I think the fact that Liz Weil is a ditsy blond is GOOD!  Just the title of her book says loads about her intelligence level.  If Marc was debating a smarter woman, he likely wouldn&#039;t be doing as well as he is.  Not because he isn&#039;t good or because he isn&#039;t right, but because the woman would be a whole lot better at lying and obfuscating.

I wish I was as good as Marc at thinking on my feet.  I&#039;m better at coming up with better stuff to have said well after it&#039;s too late.  There are plenty of times when he says things at the spur of the moment and I say to myself, &quot;Gee, that was good!  I never would have been able to come up with that !

Marc&#039;s good and I&#039;m really glad he&#039;s the one representing us in this battle on Fox.

But then again, Marc, I wish you had said...  when she said....  Just kidding!  Just kidding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DadWith2Girls,</p>
<p>I think the fact that Liz Weil is a ditsy blond is GOOD!  Just the title of her book says loads about her intelligence level.  If Marc was debating a smarter woman, he likely wouldn&#8217;t be doing as well as he is.  Not because he isn&#8217;t good or because he isn&#8217;t right, but because the woman would be a whole lot better at lying and obfuscating.</p>
<p>I wish I was as good as Marc at thinking on my feet.  I&#8217;m better at coming up with better stuff to have said well after it&#8217;s too late.  There are plenty of times when he says things at the spur of the moment and I say to myself, &#8220;Gee, that was good!  I never would have been able to come up with that !</p>
<p>Marc&#8217;s good and I&#8217;m really glad he&#8217;s the one representing us in this battle on Fox.</p>
<p>But then again, Marc, I wish you had said&#8230;  when she said&#8230;.  Just kidding!  Just kidding!</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I voted yesterday Marc was up 56% to 44%. I just checked the latest results and Marc is now up 58% to 42%. Awesome work Marc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I voted yesterday Marc was up 56% to 44%. I just checked the latest results and Marc is now up 58% to 42%. Awesome work Marc.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopold</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44225</link>
		<dc:creator>Leopold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply great!
The best thing is that Marc delivers all the important messages with a smile and complete composure, while Lis Wiehl comes across as struggling for arguments and trying to emotionaly manipulate the audience...
Marc, you are magnificent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply great!<br />
The best thing is that Marc delivers all the important messages with a smile and complete composure, while Lis Wiehl comes across as struggling for arguments and trying to emotionaly manipulate the audience&#8230;<br />
Marc, you are magnificent!</p>
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		<title>By: scottkirk</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44214</link>
		<dc:creator>scottkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave k...this is a goog site to combat the &quot;knowledge gap&quot;...refer friends to it..
http://www.mens-links.net/home.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave k&#8230;this is a goog site to combat the &#8220;knowledge gap&#8221;&#8230;refer friends to it..<br />
<a href="http://www.mens-links.net/home.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.mens-links.net/home.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: scottkirk</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44212</link>
		<dc:creator>scottkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>davek &quot;knowledge gap&quot;  good stuff man..were creating the new dialogue replete with all the new buzz words...
someone should start a mens rights buzzphraze dictionary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>davek &#8220;knowledge gap&#8221;  good stuff man..were creating the new dialogue replete with all the new buzz words&#8230;<br />
someone should start a mens rights buzzphraze dictionary&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DadWith2Girls</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44185</link>
		<dc:creator>DadWith2Girls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mruffolo - I would propose that &quot;the father&#039;s/men&#039;s movement wins when...&quot;
VAWA is repealed, the anti-Family Courts are reformed, and the word &quot;misandry&quot; is as common as &quot;feminist.&quot;

The debate is shaping up as a marathon, as you already understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mruffolo &#8211; I would propose that &#8220;the father&#8217;s/men&#8217;s movement wins when&#8230;&#8221;<br />
VAWA is repealed, the anti-Family Courts are reformed, and the word &#8220;misandry&#8221; is as common as &#8220;feminist.&#8221;</p>
<p>The debate is shaping up as a marathon, as you already understand.</p>
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		<title>By: mruffolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mruffolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The father&#039;s/men&#039;s movement wins when, in a debate, a man has the opportunity to speak the truthfully about what he observes.

It helps if he gives in-depth analysis of a complex idea in men&#039;s rights; supports main points with persuasive example; and, stays focused and organized.

It helps if he uses a story, almost a parable, to illustrate points.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/jesus/parables.html

Thanks Marc for helping spread the truth. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The father&#8217;s/men&#8217;s movement wins when, in a debate, a man has the opportunity to speak the truthfully about what he observes.</p>
<p>It helps if he gives in-depth analysis of a complex idea in men&#8217;s rights; supports main points with persuasive example; and, stays focused and organized.</p>
<p>It helps if he uses a story, almost a parable, to illustrate points.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/jesus/parables.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/jesus/parables.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks Marc for helping spread the truth. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: DadWith2Girls</title>
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		<dc:creator>DadWith2Girls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spelling errors nonwithstanding....

please write FOX to get Marc a better class of media girlfriend.

He surely has demonstrated that Lis is a talking head who needs to get a real job.

Can she t-y-p-e?

I would be happy to hire her to preefrood my posts!

Actually, that woman reminds me of my first high school girlfriend.

Big mouth. Small brain.

Good times!</description>
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<p>please write FOX to get Marc a better class of media girlfriend.</p>
<p>He surely has demonstrated that Lis is a talking head who needs to get a real job.</p>
<p>Can she t-y-p-e?</p>
<p>I would be happy to hire her to preefrood my posts!</p>
<p>Actually, that woman reminds me of my first high school girlfriend.</p>
<p>Big mouth. Small brain.</p>
<p>Good times!</p>
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		<title>By: DadWith2Girls</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44182</link>
		<dc:creator>DadWith2Girls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I may have said this recently, but I take back every bad thing I&#039;ve ever said about Marc Rudov. (I still don&#039;t own his book....)

He is telegenic, articluate and reasoned in a manner that is almost never seen on TV / major web media these days.

I particularly like the way he LISTENS very closely to what that blonde girl -- it&#039;s Lis right -- not the usual Liz? -- has to say.

Lis is so outclassed that I expect very soon Marc will be debating a trio of feminazis. That will be justified at FOX as intellectual parity .... feminist math will be employed to justify the silliness.

The most important -- and revealing thing -- that Ms. Lis stated (twice) was -- &quot;YOU&#039;RE (MEN) GREAT WHEN YOU&#039;RE TAKING INSTRUCTIONS!&quot;

Review the clip. She actually said that!

What further evidence of sexist ideology and gender fascism do you require?

The president of Harvard University got fired for far less incindiary hateful language than this blonde bimbo gets away with!

Fire Lis now!

Get Marc an intellegent woman to debate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I may have said this recently, but I take back every bad thing I&#8217;ve ever said about Marc Rudov. (I still don&#8217;t own his book&#8230;.)</p>
<p>He is telegenic, articluate and reasoned in a manner that is almost never seen on TV / major web media these days.</p>
<p>I particularly like the way he LISTENS very closely to what that blonde girl &#8212; it&#8217;s Lis right &#8212; not the usual Liz? &#8212; has to say.</p>
<p>Lis is so outclassed that I expect very soon Marc will be debating a trio of feminazis. That will be justified at FOX as intellectual parity &#8230;. feminist math will be employed to justify the silliness.</p>
<p>The most important &#8212; and revealing thing &#8212; that Ms. Lis stated (twice) was &#8212; &#8220;YOU&#8217;RE (MEN) GREAT WHEN YOU&#8217;RE TAKING INSTRUCTIONS!&#8221;</p>
<p>Review the clip. She actually said that!</p>
<p>What further evidence of sexist ideology and gender fascism do you require?</p>
<p>The president of Harvard University got fired for far less incindiary hateful language than this blonde bimbo gets away with!</p>
<p>Fire Lis now!</p>
<p>Get Marc an intellegent woman to debate!</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44181</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops... Marc not Mark... sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops&#8230; Marc not Mark&#8230; sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44180</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark that sounds awesome... and the fact of the matter is that even if you weren&#039;t winning you&#039;d be helping just by being out there.  EVERYONE knows the feminist position... we get inundated with the feminist position on everything... CONSTANTLY.  We&#039;re the group that has the knowledge gap that needs closing, so when any of us gets a national podium to provide our position and get folks thinking... it&#039;s a good thing, a DAMN good thing.  

Feminists won&#039;t win converts though exchanges like this... sure the sheep will go on thinking that since everyone says 76 cents it must be true, but every once in a while one of those sheep will have the thought &quot;well... since someone is arguing the point maybe the whole 76 cents thing ISN&#039;T as ironclad as I thought&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark that sounds awesome&#8230; and the fact of the matter is that even if you weren&#8217;t winning you&#8217;d be helping just by being out there.  EVERYONE knows the feminist position&#8230; we get inundated with the feminist position on everything&#8230; CONSTANTLY.  We&#8217;re the group that has the knowledge gap that needs closing, so when any of us gets a national podium to provide our position and get folks thinking&#8230; it&#8217;s a good thing, a DAMN good thing.  </p>
<p>Feminists won&#8217;t win converts though exchanges like this&#8230; sure the sheep will go on thinking that since everyone says 76 cents it must be true, but every once in a while one of those sheep will have the thought &#8220;well&#8230; since someone is arguing the point maybe the whole 76 cents thing ISN&#8217;T as ironclad as I thought&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc H. Rudov</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44178</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc H. Rudov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot respond to all these good comments. 

Yes, we have debated, several times, on the wage gap. Please go to www.TheNoNonsenseMan.com -- Media &amp; Events page, Archived TV Interviews section -- to watch those videos.

Fox News is NOT trying to rig the debate. It is a huge company. The website people and the TV people are NOT in the same organization. The TV people do not have the authority to tell the Website people what to do. The first vote was two weeks ago. THAT vote didn&#039;t begin until 30 minutes AFTER the debate ended: I won 63-36. I spent an hour on the phone yesterday with Cavuto&#039;s producer to help fix a number of Website issues. Over time, we will solve the problems. Look at it this way: this is the first time that the man&#039;s perspective is heard on international TV, before two million viewers, every week.

To those of you who think I&#039;m not winning, let me say this. The voting says I&#039;m winning. The letters to Cavuto say I&#039;m winning. Cavuto and his producers think I&#039;m winning. Letters I receive from people around the world -- men and women -- say I&#039;m winning.

For the foreseeable future, I will be on Cavuto&#039;s show every Friday. Why? our segment is a ratings bonanza -- a surprise to ALL of us involved. This will give me ample opportunity to make all the right points and to show that remaining logical and reasonable -- and unafraid of a pretty blonde -- is compelling.

If you guys vote for me at www.FoxFan.com, you can help make this even-more successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot respond to all these good comments. </p>
<p>Yes, we have debated, several times, on the wage gap. Please go to <a href="http://www.TheNoNonsenseMan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.TheNoNonsenseMan.com</a> &#8212; Media &amp; Events page, Archived TV Interviews section &#8212; to watch those videos.</p>
<p>Fox News is NOT trying to rig the debate. It is a huge company. The website people and the TV people are NOT in the same organization. The TV people do not have the authority to tell the Website people what to do. The first vote was two weeks ago. THAT vote didn&#8217;t begin until 30 minutes AFTER the debate ended: I won 63-36. I spent an hour on the phone yesterday with Cavuto&#8217;s producer to help fix a number of Website issues. Over time, we will solve the problems. Look at it this way: this is the first time that the man&#8217;s perspective is heard on international TV, before two million viewers, every week.</p>
<p>To those of you who think I&#8217;m not winning, let me say this. The voting says I&#8217;m winning. The letters to Cavuto say I&#8217;m winning. Cavuto and his producers think I&#8217;m winning. Letters I receive from people around the world &#8212; men and women &#8212; say I&#8217;m winning.</p>
<p>For the foreseeable future, I will be on Cavuto&#8217;s show every Friday. Why? our segment is a ratings bonanza &#8212; a surprise to ALL of us involved. This will give me ample opportunity to make all the right points and to show that remaining logical and reasonable &#8212; and unafraid of a pretty blonde &#8212; is compelling.</p>
<p>If you guys vote for me at <a href="http://www.FoxFan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.FoxFan.com</a>, you can help make this even-more successful.</p>
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		<title>By: scottkirk</title>
		<link>http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/06/15/working-dads-struggle-more/comment-page-1/#comment-44176</link>
		<dc:creator>scottkirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conserve..&quot;he makes self effaceing comments about his cooking ect. ect.(this is subtle way to show subservience to the princess- It connotates a man with his back brocken so he can&#039;t protect himself)..

And is reflexive (like pavlovs dogs)..in controlled and feminised men..

They have to continually show helplessness, and servility...else the princess be hard on him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conserve..&#8221;he makes self effaceing comments about his cooking ect. ect.(this is subtle way to show subservience to the princess- It connotates a man with his back brocken so he can&#8217;t protect himself)..</p>
<p>And is reflexive (like pavlovs dogs)..in controlled and feminised men..</p>
<p>They have to continually show helplessness, and servility&#8230;else the princess be hard on him&#8230;</p>
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