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EU Constitution: Next Move?

2007-07-05
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The proposed EU constitution met with defeat in 2005. As predicted (see link in article to left) supporters found a way around the democratic process. They have reintroduced a barely modified version as a treaty to avoid public referenda.

In view of this development, I think readers should be aware of the research and analysis of Vladimir Bukovksy, the 64-year old former Soviet dissident who fears (as I do) that the European Union is on its way to becoming another Soviet Union. In a speech delivered in Brussels (February, 2006), Mr Bukovsky called the EU a “monster” that must be destroyed, the sooner the better, before it develops into a full-fledged totalitarian state. (interview, commentary, and text of speech)

Mr. Bukovsky dug up evidence in now opened Soviet archives that points to a socialist conspiracy; and he puts the author of the proposed constitution, Giscard d-Estaing, in the middle of it. He describes pseudo-democratic efforts to advance their agenda “a trick for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting.” The speech was given before EU bosses decided to bypass referenda and bring the proposed constitution into law directly against the will of the people.

How can EU citizens stop the political machine from running over them? Changing ideas, especially political ideas, often requires replacing people. That’s democracy. And that’s the piece of democracy missing in the development of an EU constitution. Even if good intent rather than conspiracy is assumed; Albert Einstein provided the wisdom to proceed when he pointed out that problems cannot be solved with the same mindset that created them. It is clear that the process is now controlled by a group of people with only one idea; a previously failed political idea that has been rejected by the more enlightened European population of the 21st century.

What is needed is a demand for special elections that allow the people, rather than the political machinery of Europe, to decide who the members of the constitutional committee will be. Another easy prediction: at least the vast majority elected by the people would be among those who solidly reject the current draft, as well as any “trick for idiots” used to pass a constitution into law.

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    Lots of humor about Iran’s home-built weaponry. But what if it works better than anybody expected — much better? Don’t rule it out. America was once a technically illiterate nation that gained power building weaponry nobody thought would work. And now the USA is #1 militarily — for the moment. China and other technologically advanced nations are advancing quickly.

  • http://www.geocities.com/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    I also don’t find Einstein’s insight on solving problems “trite.” I don’t know that he ever claimed to have been the first person to have made such an observation, but do know that really good problem solvers take the art and science of problem solving very seriously. Old wisdom – so long as it’s wise – is good wisdom.

    I don’t know however where the official Einstein quote website is. After finding a variety of versions of what he said about solutions and the mindset that created the problem; I made the comment about his insight without quotes. Some of the possible quotes I ran across seemed somewhat more discerning – so accurate that it could be used to solve problems in artificial intelligence.

  • http://www.geocities.com/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    Correction: … Einstein’s work AND work toward a serious …

  • http://www.geocities.com/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    The only actual trail that I’m aware of is the same one everybody else uses – previously published science – “standing on the shoulders of giants.” Einstein’s formulae can be derived from classic physics, so long as you include his “strange new twists.”

    I’ve always seen Einstein’s work at work toward a serious theory of child support calculation as being very similar. The heavy intellectual work is not in the derivation of formulae; it’s in the conceptualization that is needed before taking those final mathematical steps. Once you have the concept in hand – the “strange new twist” – the math can be done by any reasonably good mathematician – as I did it while an undergraduate in engineering.

    Would physics be just as advanced today applying the concept of the “ether”?

  • http://www.geocities.com/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    I’ve never heard that Einstein stole his ideas before; although I once thought it was worth considering myself – i.e. he was constantly exposed to the ideas of others when he worked as a patent clerk. By now however, I think someone would have discovered it if there was a trail of ideas that led to his published discoveries.

    The only actual trail that software bug ……

  • jjtaup

    Yeah, Einstein was a fraud–actually was missing half his brain. Really worked as the midnight janitor where he daily found chewing gum wrappers with phone numbers scribbled on them that, as a joke, spliced together as his “Theory of Relativity”. And while we’re at it, George Washington was a homosexual–really the first great, great homosexual rights activist. That was the real purpose of the American revolution. And, of course, Jesus never existed. And Galileo’s greatest contribution was in simply being a transvestite who discovered that it was all in the timing of the swinging of his pen–well, we say “pendulum” nowadays to be polite.

    Let’s see, what else is up? Oh yeah… America was actually the pure essence of Marx and Engle’s Communist Manifesto, only whites can be racist, the West is making a comeback, Mr. Spock doesn’t really know how to do that shoulder thing, and, while not all terrorists are Muslim, all Muslims are certainly terrorists.

  • infidel

    Bukovsky said: “The people have to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting.”

    That’s what the separatists in Quebec do too. Twice the people voted against separation and yet separatists still say they will hold another referendum, when they think they can win. Then there will be no more referendums.

    Now, a brief off-topic comment:

    Roger said: “Albert Einstein provided the wisdom to proceed when he pointed out that problems cannot be solved with the same mindset that created them.”

    Einstein’s point is valid, but Einstein himself was a fraud. He was a plagiarist who stole his formulas and ideas from other scientists, sometimes with a strange new twist just so he could call them his own. Because he was such a prolific thief of ideas and was backed by a loud group of supporters, that he came to be considered a genius.

    The idea that “problems cannot be solved with the same mindset that created them” is a trite observation, but when coming from the “genius” it is considered profound.

  • Artfldgr

    Take any random system, and put a small bias to one side that is constant, and the outcome is only a matter of time… the more bias, the faster it skews, the less bias the slower. what is not in question is where it will end up. there for democratic socialism is a bias towards one side from one sides base. and the other side is still totalitarian so any bias displayed can be reversed at whim, and so is a false bias that does NOT balance the situation. remember as long as we have those things, we have a bias, and as long as we have a bias, the end result is moot.

  • thurston861

    Roger and BD,

    This must be reverse engineered to make the poit clear.

    Dubya is a Decendent of the American Brahmin, HELL NO, HE IS the American Brahmin. THey are the Tories who did not leave during and after the Revolution.

    His Grandfather was the Banker for the Nazi’s here in the U,S.

    The White House under Direct Control of the President originated the never read before the Vote, Patriot Act, and recently struck Military Commisions Act, the beseiged Real ID Act which Petrick Leyhe has intended to REpeal and tried to force through without debate the Immigration Reform Act which had further re-enforcment of the Real ID ACt and the SPP/North American Union concealed under its name headding.

    If all of this is the same as the Totalitarian State of the EU, and Nazi Germany where you must have your papers in order to be free from suspicion of guilt of a crime, then Dubya is a Totalitarianist like his GrandfFuehrer.

    Again, the American Brahmin Fruit does nto fall far from the Tree.

    So BD, the latter does not seem to include Dubya, IT CERTAINLY DOES INCLUDE HIM, unless that which waddles, swims, quacks, and lays eggs like a Duck is no longer defined as a Duck.

    BD- as for Fox News the Beltway MenChildren were blasting Talk Radio for their position against the Immigration Bill. These two idiots are just more proof that the MSM even Fox and Rupert Murdoch are part of the propaganda machine agaisnt REASON and FREEDOM.

    Mr. Gay – Mr. Bukovsky is correct and displays for us all the realty of the situation.

    The Steve Ferrell article on the Catholic Bishop being under criminal prosecution by spoecking the truth obut the Bible is the evidence of how correct Mr. Bukovsky’s indictment of the Totalitarianist EU is.

    Watch the Catholic Church.

    Watch how the Church lets this Bishop get destroyed by Belgum. What how the Catholic Church now exposes itself by its public inaction in defense of their Bishop who defends the Old TEstament/Torah Law against homosexuality being a sin and a sin that delineates a Man of Society to a Man of selfishness.

    European current events show us that Americans dies in WWII in vain, and America footed the Bill for the Reconstruction fo Europe in vain.

    THe West is surrendering to its destruction despite all of the blood shed to allegedy save her.

    WWII in Eurpoe is now an equal failure as Iraq.

    Since the Men of Europe have endured this Marxism by Rule of lawyers and Women’s insanity, they are disarmend.

    It is one minute to midnight in Europe on the eve of the mass confinement of entire cultures.

    Watch Poland carefully. The Convulsions have already begun there. They also make evvective weapons and have greater spirit and strength for resistence agianst that which they have hated longer than Europe.

    They were betrayed by Hitler and Stalin, and they were betrayed by FDR, now they will betrayed by teh EU. Sobieski’s spirit will rise in them, and they will not delay as they did under Stalinism.

    Germany will be the third to be infected with the Revolt, just by proximity,as Italy is realizing their future of naught is upon them at this instant.

    The Evil Beurocrats and the Lawyers will all the first ones lined up against the wall.

    Meanwhile the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys and Limeys who love Marxism so much that they cannot see that they are Marxists are drooling at the opportunity to take the mark of the beast. Their REason has been diseased for far too long for them to have a future.

    Living in America, last week we shut down the Kennedy-Bush (Neuvo-Richie American Brahmin Lackeys) Juggernaut, and all fo the Media cannot handle it.
    Nor can they handle and explain away Ron Paul.

    It si two minutes to Midnight to the Fourth American Revolution.

    40% of Familialy, Judicially, and Materialistically disaffected formerly Married Men is an army of over 2 Million.

  • http://www.geocities.com/rogerfgay/ Roger F. Gay

    The US uses international agreements with an extreme view of constitutional law on treaties to do all sorts of unconstitutional things – while also avoiding any human rights or equality requirements in the treaty (child support reform being an example). We also have the “activist judges” problem; judges that have been busy since the 1960s reclassifying all sorts of private issue law as “social policy” and “economic policy” – thus, eliminating individual rights requirements and allowing arbitrary government control (family law being the most obvious example).

  • barkingdog

    Very true, but isn’t the same thing happening in our country? Example: Immigration “reform” (i.e. amnesty for all) fails in congress because of the true power of the people. That is quickly blamed on “right-wing extremist talk radio” and we go directly to the next round of guess what? Still more talk of “reform,” but with the new added ingredient of “by the way, let’s revive the Fairness Doctrine.” Of course the MSM see no connection, and the loudest voice on the subject on Fox News is (yuchh!) Geraldo.

    Beware of the socialists, communists, and one-worlders. (The latter seems to include Dubbya.) They are persistent and they will find a way to get their way. The EU is just another example of what we see here nearly every day.







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