Video: Couric Skates Abuse Charges
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July 14th, 2007 at 2:31 am
I love the part where Marc mentions a man stabbed in the forehead and the moderators response is “what did he do?” a man is a victim of domestic violence and suddenly it’s all about the victim deserving their punishment. feh.
July 14th, 2007 at 5:35 am
If we started to encourage men to tell when their wife/girlfriend hits them..we would start to see a very different picture of domestic violence…
The greatest fear of the new feminist run domestic violence industry is that men will start to tell!!! Thats why they are fighting tooth and nail to not allow men to receive any services or support from being the victim of domestic violence…
http://www.mediaradar.org/
July 14th, 2007 at 8:16 am
Excellent topic.
I expect NOW has Marc on their radar.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:18 am
weihl obviscated all over the place. rudov stays focused on the subject matter. it is easy to stay focused when you debate from a position of strength. when one debates from a position of weakness it is all but impossable to NOT obviscate, dodge and weave. weihl also is very artfull in trivialising that which does not support her. twice, rudov stated that 50% of domestic violence is caused by women and both times weihl ignored him. unfortunately, cavuto let her get away with that. i am thinking she didn’t address it because she knew he was right or that the numbers were close enough to NOT support her positions. think obviscate!
this one was a blow out from the first minute, even with cavuto pandering to his female audience, ( which i understand he probably must do for ratings ). i wonder though…..does he ever pander to men for ratings? i must have missed that segment.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:22 am
weihl and cavuto also made light of the stabbing of the husband IN THE HEAD. yuk yuk! that allows her to stay off topic and keep rudov from stating facts while she babbles. too obvious and cavuto is being had. doesn’t matter…..she got smoked anyway.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:25 am
drdamage…… my appology. i “did” read your post and should not have repeated the stabbing in the head thing.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:26 am
thats apology. i need another cup of mud!
July 14th, 2007 at 8:39 am
I hope you guys are voting by pressing the green VOTE button above. When you send your e-mail, please tell Neil what you think of female-on-male violence and indicate the debate’s winner.
Thank you.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Here is a copy of my e-mail:
“Katie Couric is an anti-male sexist who, among other things, has advocated castration for reluctant bridegrooms. She has no right to physically assault the people who work for her. Feminists who support a woman’s right to abuse men without fear of retaliation may defend her, but Marc Rudov wins this debate hands down. “
July 14th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
My emal to Cavuto:
Marc proved his point as Lis danced around the issue. Violence is violence no matter which gender perpetrates the act. Katie should be fired and arrested for battery.
Marc wins it again.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
Donnieboy,
No one panders to us and it is our fault. The average guy cares more about sports and T&A than issues affecting their lives. What kind of crap do we get? The vapid Man Show? No wonder women think they can away with anything. Perhaps we here at MND would watch “Sacks on the sexes” or “Usher on the issues” or better yet “BaskervilleWatch” but I don’t think we’ll get many men to watch that have NASCAR stickers plastered all over their pickup.
It is not until we get injured, do we start getting educated.
For me, it took a false accusation of domestic battery and subsequent guilty finding to reduced battery. My attorney grabbed the cash as he knew it was a lost cause for me. He helped me not at all.
July 14th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Go to http://www.wmur.com and check on the video of a reporter being knocked down by a man. This involved a court case and a hounding reporter. lets see how this one is treated Marc won hands down on this one too. I too have ben slapped by a woman and nothing was done about it.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
Get this and please pay attention —
Lis actually stated — “women die of domestic violence more than any other cause in this country… a woman’s most dangerous place is her home…”
Please review the clip and tell me if I am incorrect…. the audio was muddy due to overlapping voices by Marc, Lis and the mod dude…
Lis actually stated this LIE as a fact. Google women’s causes of death and report back… it would be a waste of your time….
Lis is a virulent feminist with a cute blonde persona.
That’s not the most negative thing about her.
The truly tragic thing is that Lis does not think well. (On her feet, or with her legs in the air….)
She is … sorry to say … the poster girl for “a dumb intellectual blonde.”
I really would like to find some redeeming qualities in Lis.
Can she dance on a pole?
July 14th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
DW2G that was silly.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
“Lis is a virulent feminist with a cute blonde persona.”
This is what makes her the perfect person for Marc to debate. She states all of the classic feminist lies for Marc to refute. This also makes her very predictable so that Marc more likely to be better prepared for each debate.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
“DW2G that was silly.”
Yes, it probably was.
But … why?
Lis has all the qualities for being an excellent stripper or concubine, with attitude…
She obviously needs a new haircut …
But other than that, she looks pretty “perky.”
And, she sure knows how to talk.
Can anybody explain why American women feel that men want to listen to them talk all the time?
WTF?
July 14th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
“Can anybody explain why American women feel that men want to listen to them talk all the time?”
Because when they were teenagers, boys/young men listened to them in order to be in the position to get lucky. To admit that men do not want to listen to you as you get older is to realize that you are no longer desirable. So they live in denial.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
DW2G I was being sarcastic re EG’s stuff….nevermind. You have touched a great point here and bomb has answered most likely dead on correct for me.
American women and “old europe” western europe women are the same in this regard…..blah blah blah. Yet the refernce in counsel is that men retreat to their boxes and we shoudl not. After all, our brians only light up in spots, theirs look like speagetti super highways as they think circles around us.
Again…bomb….ding ding ding.
July 14th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
not able to vote or view video.
I have auto scroll etc unchecked.
The votes is linked to a mailto:
July 14th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Joi,
If you cannot view video, go to http://www.FoxNews.com. Click on ANY video you see. You will be prompted for your Internet-connection speed. Once you indicate that, you will be able to view all FNC videos. Then, click on my video.
The voting software got screwed up this week, so all votes are by e-mail. That’s the way it is.
July 14th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Sent to Neil Cavuto via email:
Neil,
I think you do a very good job of interviewing your guests. You ask direct questions and do not let guests avoid a question or to spin their answers. Your segments with Marc Rudov and Lis Wiehl are great and I hope this will become a permanent feature of Your World with Cavuto.
Marc Rudov clearly won this round. Lis was not at all intellectually honest in this debate. Any man would be fired and CBS would have issued a companywide memo condemning his behavior. The CBS legal department probably would have ordered companywide sensitivity training directed primarily at men to try and minimize their legal exposure to any potential future cases. All men at CBS would be put on notice. Kouric can sidestep the issue because CBS sidestepped the issue first. This would NEVER happen to a man.
Lis attempted to sidestep the issue by recalling that dinosaur Dan Rather and his comment about “dumbing down and tarting up” the news at CBS with the hiring of Kouric. It is no secret that Kouric is flatlining at CBS news. CBS will do anything to defend their choice of Kouric. CBS will even blame it’s audience (their consumer) for Kouric’s failure at CBS. CBS should rethink the tactic of insulting their viewers who are key to their advertising revenues. This had nothing to do with the topic of this debate.
When Marc brought up the subject of the man who was knifed in the head by his wife Lis attempted to sidestep this as well by claiming this had nothing to do with this debate. It most certainly did! What is it about violence committed by women against men that does Lis not understand? Lis also tried to sidestep this by treating it as a humorous incident. Neil do you remember the Clara Harris case? Or the Lorena Bobbitt case? I remember when these cases were in the news and how women had laughed at what had happened to the men involved-women also treated these as humorous incidents where the men deserved what they got. By all accounts these were mostly good, if flawed men, who did not deserve the crime committed against them. Lorena Bobbitt received a 45 day sentence in a mental facility. Harris lived to tell her side of the story-and advantage not shared by the husband she murdered.
As I said, Lis also attempted to treat this horrendous knifing incident with humor-it was obvious from her laughing. Had this been a women getting knifed I’m sure Lis would have condemned men generally just like she blamed men generally for Couric’s failure at CBS (Lis said that Kouric has it harder because she is a woman) or the way she erroneously blamed men generally for the domestic deaths of women.
Lis was also intellectually dishonest about saying that domestic violence is the largest killer of women. It most certainly is not. There is extensive documentation both by governmental and non-governmental agencies about the mortality rates of both men and women and death by crime of both men and women. You can check FBI statistics to see the breakdown of criminal victims by gender. The mortality rates in general are much higher for men. Women outlive men by 10 years in this country. The vast majority of criminal victims including death by crime are men.
Best regards,
Denis
July 14th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
bombbomb etc. & conservativation ,
You dudes are killing my schtick hereabouts on MND!
If just a few more men agree with me, I’m toast!
Unfortunately, nothing you have stated can be disputed.
My alter ego is meeelllllltttttiiiinnnnngggg…..
(Curious man behind a transparent curtain?)
Keep writing guys!
July 14th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Why is it the feminists feel compelled to blatantly lie?
I saw a show today regarding “the feminine mistake” on cspan.
The guest said very flattly that “70% of child support cases are in arrears”.
The gals have turned the corner and are now blatantly, bald face, lying.
July 15th, 2007 at 4:07 am
Marc, hope to see you nail Lis next time for using one of the many feminist phony statistics. I believe heart disease is the number one killer of women, just as it is for men, but it gets no attention next to breast cancer because it kills more men than women. But we have no shortage of legislators, judges, and prosecutors ready to crack down on men every time the feminists dream up another phony statistc, and none of them, so far including Lis, are ever held accountable, nor are the laws based on phony stats ever repealed.
Also, what would be different if women died several years before men instead of the reverse being true.
July 15th, 2007 at 6:21 am
i would sure like to hear from a few married men hear. how do you discuss this topic with them? does she support mens rights or defend feminists who tell lie after lie? will she speak out at church and social gatherings in your defense as you are expected to do in hers? does she see a gender biased media and is she able to confront that problem within her female circles? just wondering as i have been divorced for 8 years and am out of that loop as of now. i just cannot see me rolling over anymore and it would seem to be a problem for a concerned guy who is married. just asking.
July 15th, 2007 at 7:14 am
Donnieboy I’ll take a stab at answering that from my corner of the married world. However my experience may be a little different, but it ended up my wife sees nearly eye to eye with me on these matters. It’s a good thing too because it is painful trying to argue with her. We nearly divorced and rode the family court horse for a year and a half before reconciling, so she saw firsthand what was happening, and actually after reconciliation saw the utter lopsidedness of it all.
I constantly am pointing out examples of misandry, on TV, in the news, and at church. We were traveling a couple Sundays ago and were at a church we used to attend. I always look at the list of resources for men and women and compare them. Of course there is far more going on for the gals, but we were both shocked to see the Men’s Ministry leader was named Karen something or other. That floored us.
I point these things out so often for the benefit of my 2 boys, and the older one 14 gets it plain and simple. The 10 year old will, he’s just too young. My daughter says I’m a chauvinist and my wife’s only complaint is that I’m obsessed, looking for gender demons everywhere.
I’d be very curious about younger couples, recent college grads just starting, and how this plays in those homes. From what I see in malls and airports, a meek sweating guy carrying kids, bags, boxes and equipment while taking direction from the wives, I’d say it doesn’t fly at all.
July 15th, 2007 at 8:49 am
12 scottfree said,
Talking about that reporteress knocked down; that is the worst fake fall I have ever seen. If he had knocked her down, why was she still falling as he walked away? Apparently we are supposed to believe that was a prof. camera-person who couldn’t keep the camera centered on the action. This guy was set up! Notice the so-called “Hit” or slap happened just off camera.
July 15th, 2007 at 11:36 am
conservativation — “My daughter says I’m a chauvinist and my wife’s only complaint is that I’m obsessed, looking for gender demons everywhere.”
I truly hope you have separated your financial assets into YOUR account and HER account, and that you know a good divorce attorney.
You are on the path to be divorced. (Not of your choosing, obviously.)
Take pro-active measures NOW!
Sorry, bro’.
The Matriarchy you have been supporting is about to harvest you….
July 15th, 2007 at 12:19 pm
I have not yet been able to watch the debate, but reading the comments, it appears Lis claimed more women die in domestic violence than women. MRAs should know 2005 Utah statistics provide the potential for a counter argument to this: When including domestic violence related suicides, the vast majority male, more men than women end up dead from domestic violence. Word to your mother.
I managed to get a member of The House of Lords, Lord Campbell Savours, to ask in parliament, whether the UK government currently keeps track of domestic violence related suicide stats by gender. The UK does not.
Ask your administration if they keep track of dv-related suicides by gender. Another key victim-feminist statistical battle cry should now be under threat.
Word to your sisters aswell.
July 15th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Correction! It should read ‘Lis claims more women die in domestic violence than MEN.’ – (they don’t).
July 15th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
I think Lis stated (paraphrased) that DV is the leading cause of death for women.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN U.S. FEMALES –
All Races, Females Percent
1. Heart disease 28.0
2. Cancer 21.6
3. Stroke 7.7
4. Chronic lower respiratory diseases 5.3
5. Alzheimer’s disease 3.6
6. Diabetes 3.1
7. Unintentional injuries 3.1
8. Influenza and pneumonia 2.9
9. Kidney disease 1.8
10. Septicemia 1.5
http://www.cdc.gov/women/lcod.htm
Hmmm. Don’t see domestic violence anywhere on the list, let alone as the No. 1 cause of women’s mortality, as Lis stated.
Proving that Lis is a vicious, unintelligent liar, a blonde rad-fem parasite who will say anything in her desperate attempts to be perceived as credible.
This woman is an easy lay … errr… lawsuit.
Just waiting for Marc to file the papers…..
Defamation?
Fraud?
Breech of contract?
(She must have represented herself to FOX as a credible debator… well?)
July 15th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Thank you for the advice. Its a bit late. She did that in 2004, and I rode the family court pony for 2 years. We reconciled, and interestingly she actually sees things as I do now….her complaints about me being obsessed don’t mean she doesnt agree with me, just that I want to discuss it more then her.
Your advice though was spot on, based on what you had read.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Oh that comment you made above DW2G works just fine in Spanish….she is an easy LEY.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
PS — (sorry, I’ll stop posting when Marc gets a superior girlfriend…)
Who at FOX decreed that Marc has to debate this vacuous Barbie Doll?
Does FOX have any clue how much better Marc would come across if he was given just the least intellectual challenge?
Marc must go home with mental blue balls after every encounter with Lis.
She is that frustrating.
There’s no foreplay, no engagement, no climax….
Lis is a blow-up doll looking for an air hose.
Please let her retire, with what little dignity she retains.
As a 15-minute deer-in-headlights opinionated bimbo.
Vote for Marc, and VOTE to give Lis her pension!
July 15th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
dadwgirls…you should send the top 10 reasons for womens demise to neil cavuto at fox news…
July 15th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Obviously, Lis has been brainwashed by feminist theory.
July 15th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Main Causes of Deaths Among America Population 2003 by Gender
Cause of death: Women Men
Diseases of the circulatory system 14,278 13,682
Neoplasms (cancer) 2,722 3,526
Diseases of the respiratory system 1,446 1,690
Diseases of the digestive system 1,426 1,485
Infectious and parasitic diseases 370 924
Accidents, poisoning and injury 517 1,580
(See page 5)
http://www.gender-az.org/doc/en/development/stat/gen_stat_2004_eng.pdf
Spouse that murder other spouse an average 1,439 per year over the last 29 years.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/relationship.htm
Feminized moms kill their child an average 1,400,00 per year over the last 30 lears.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/graphusabrate.html
July 16th, 2007 at 7:05 am
tonysprout, I am glad you picked up on that too, seemed real fake to me too. The point I was making is that couric can slap around a guy and nothing is said, but here is a man that was walking away, chased by a reporter and now he is in trouble because he “assualted” her. talk about a double standard. Couric should be fired, no question about it. I am keeping an eye on this other story to see what happens next if it is reported at all.
July 18th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
The voting is now operational at http://www.FoxFan.com. Please vote there. Thanx.
July 18th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
marc.. youre dominateing the voting !!!obviously youre message is reaching the fox fans!!!
July 18th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
I voted for you Marc. Keep up the fight!
July 18th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Just voted.
Marc is ahead 78% v.22%.
July 19th, 2007 at 9:34 am
I was ahead 79-21, but the vote is back to 78-22. What does this mean? Why am I not winning 95-5? Because almost a quarter of the viewers agree with Lis’s perspective, that a woman slapping a man is no big deal.
Let that sink in. Mind you, some of Lis’s supporters are MEN. Don’t kid yourself. Vaginized men are OK with women abusing them. After all, besides Neil Cavuto, who else aired this story? Nobody. Most TV hosts are men.
Get everyone you know over to http://www.FoxFan.com to vote.