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Video: Feminism Is Dead!

2007-07-20
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Marc Rudov Debates Lis Wiehl

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FNC’s Your World with Neil Cavuto: 07.20.07

“Political Pandering to Women Proves Feminism Is Dead”

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  • WLS

    The original issue, it may be useful to recall, was not really how the blogsite is financed, but whether it informs and effectuates political action and social change, or is more an introverted, targeted to the choir, spot essentially for amusement. No one’s begrudging any gains, or beguiling anyone to suffer losses, for its own sake.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    Hi Thomas – yes, I got it. Thank you. It should show up in the chipin widget in a few days after the check has cleared.

    Meanwhile, let’s see if the community of readers can step up to the plate and help me out with the server costs in the coming months.

    Actually – while MND is technically a “for profit” business – I can think of no fundamental reason to keep this site’s financial books a secret to this community.

    Over the years, I have come to understand that a lot of folks in the MRA community are at once thrilled and enraged, congratulatory and envious over the unprecedented success of MND as a social networking tool. And because the site focuses largely on unsung social issues, many folks think the site ought rightly be run by committee as a NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

    To be honest, I have looked into this prospect. But the fact is, MND is such a high-profile media cherry, I don’t think it could work as a non-profit. There are just too many interested people with an unwholesome — even creepy — desire for power and personal aggrandizement. If MND were to fall into the hands of such men, I am certain it would quickly rot from the inside, and little of substance would be left in the end.

    For that reason alone, I would sooner close this site down forever and move on to other topics, rather than see it fall into the wrong hands.

    But the idea of treating the site as though it were a non-profit organization is quite intriguing to me.

    What do I care – after all – if the financial books on MND are open to the public? I think the community might get a kick out of it, and the real costs of operating this site month-to-month and year-over-year might finally begin to sink in.

  • Thomas

    Hi Mike, As you likely know, I mad a contribution as well, but I guess the transfer takes awhile to clear, Nonetheless, I post to let you know someone else cares about this and wants to put their money (however little they have left after a recent visit to FCU – Family Court University) behind your cause.

    I’ve mentioned this quite a few times in debates with Elder George – bottom line this whole movement needs money – you can sit around and debate forever, but without cash – forget it. He argues that if you makeit about money then the cause is lost – excuuuuse me – aren’t you (elder george) posting on this site? So where is your donation :-)

    Tom

  • http://www.false-accusers.com TheManOnTheStreet

    Mike LaSalle said,

    The monthly server cost to keep MND running is $414.90. Let me help you grasp that: four hundred and fifteen US dollars PER MONTH.

    If you are reading this you may indeed ask yourself what YOU have done to raise awareness of these important issues – while I sit in my furnitureless house, waiting for the next bill to come.
    ______________________________

    Exactly what I was refering to ML. I hope that my post wasn’t interpreted as calling you out. I KNOW what it takes to run a site. I was trying to make that known to those that have no idea what it takes…

    TMOTS

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    Thank you BQ!

    Yes, MND is 100% supported by me. But if not for my wonderful wife – who has supported ME (in all ways) while I have built and managed this site over the years – MND would not even be here.

    Best to you,

    Mike

  • The Biscuit Queen

    Done. Thanks Mike, I didn’t realize you were shouldering this on your own.

  • http://thenononsenseman.mensnewsdaily.com Marc H. Rudov

    To Mike LaSalle:

    I’m sure you have learned by now that people who whine the most contribute the least — mostly because they have the least to contribute.

    I hope that, given your public posting of private finances, the trolls and detractors will reassess themselves and think twice about talking for the sake of talking. Time will tell.

    Thanx for your invaluable contributions.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    The Biscuit Queen – the box to donate to my paypal account is indeed right in front of you – at the top of the third column on MND. I just added it this morning, requesting help to pay my August server bill.

    You know – just to counter the empty allegation that MND is a “big-profit machine”, I am very tempted to make public all of my accounting books for this site.

    Fact: I am deeply in debt owing exclusively to my unwavering commitment (six years and counting) to keep this website on the air at any cost.

    Fact: I am almost always late in paying for my monthly server charges simply because I don’t usually have enough in the way of operating capital to pay it on time.

    Fact: Last year I paid out over $20,000 to a software engineer to help me get the site onto the wordpress blogging platform. I still owe this engineer over $7000, and at this point I am only paying him a small amount every month against the debt I owe him. (I funded this project out of proceeds from the sale of my house in 2005. That money is now GONE.)

    Fact: I am worse than broke, and – if I had any brains at all – I would do myself (and my family) a great favor by dropping this site off a cliff and moving on.

    Whenever I hear someone like DW2Gs or WLS piss and moan about what a “shill” I am for running MND, it either makes me laugh or cry – I can’t remember which.

  • rastus

    Just wanted to throw in my two cents here, for those concerned that talk accomplishes nothing. I got into the online debate thing on Compuserve many years ago, participating mostly in their Men’s Issues forum that Jack Kammer got started. What I found was that the ratio of lurkers to participants is at least 10:1, and often much more. The influence of what we said there extended well beyond our small cadre of debaters. I heard talk radio hosts repeating some of our arguments, nearly verbatim.

    People come in to sites like this having clicked on a link, and once here they will usually read a few of the articles — and with the comments attached at the bottom, they’ll likely read those, too. Do not underestimate the power of the online “pen”; it can wake up some of the most unexpected people, and inform far more than you might otherwise have guessed. What Mark does is wonderful, because he reaches an audience that may not see what we write here, and that’s a crucial part of what MRAs need to accomplish. Just don’t sell short the effect of sites like this one. You’re preaching to far more than just the choir that sings with you.

  • The Biscuit Queen

    Mike, is there an account we can donate to? I didn’t see it (which means it must be right in front of my face!)

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    The monthly server cost to keep MND running is $414.90. Let me help you grasp that: four hundred and fifteen US dollars PER MONTH.

    If you are reading this you may indeed ask yourself what YOU have done to raise awareness of these important issues – while I sit in my furnitureless house, waiting for the next bill to come.

    Some of thurston861′s most colorful language suddenly springs to mind…

  • The Biscuit Queen

    WLS is right however, in a way. People depending soley on the internet to be active are missing out on real-life activities. The problem with on-line activity is that people only read if they choose to-thus it becomes in large part preaching to the choir. I have been on message boards for the better part of 5 years, and have gotten next to nowhere. Glenn Sacks has a way of making it work by using the internet to rally people into action by letter writing campaigns, which is great. However outreach to new people, which is the single most important issue we face today, is not going to happen on-line in enough numbers to make a difference. We must get out from behind these computers and start talking to people. Even talking to each other in person makes such a big difference. There is a family rights rally in washington DC http://www.dcrally2007.com/ (turn down your volume there is really loud music.) Here is a chance to get together and be heard.

  • http://mensnewsdaily.com/author/mike-lasalle Mike LaSalle

    WLS has been outed in a previous post by Michael Robinson:

    I rarely if ever comment on these blogs but I felt compelled to mostly because of some of the misunderstandings about the Taron James case, the Navarro decision, AB 252 and WLS’s, aka William Spence’s relentless attacks directed towards Glenn Sacks, others and sometimes myself. READ MORE HERE

    In fact I have received numerous complaints regarding WLS by many, MANY contributors to MND. I have been asked repeatedly to ban him.

    Yet here he is still, venting his rather sad and jaundiced spleen.

    That’s “free speech” for you.

    Or perhaps you could say I just like to keep him around for “entertainment value.”

  • WLS

    The trouble is the blogsite stifles and suppresses real-world activism, in ways which in are in part related to the advertising carried.

    If you like playing a fantasy or role-playing game, it’s OK, otherwise you should be dissatisfied.

  • http://www.false-accusers.com TheManOnTheStreet

    DW2G,

    Marc is writing articles, doing the circuit, appearing on Fox once a week, writing books…

    He may not fit onto the neat little box that some would like him to, but he IS out there doing SOMETHING!

    Just as this site… Sometimes I see ads that make me wonder “WTF?”. But then I am reminded that high traffic sites COST. And ad rolls like adsense etal sometimes place ads that are not really appropriate for the content… whether it is intentional or not, someone has got to pay the bills. So if allowing the occasional date site ad, or book on how women can get even in divorce is the price to pay for this medium to actually exist.. then so be it.

    So, in closing… WTF have you done for the men of this world….

    Thought so.

    TMOTS

  • http://MSN Tancredman

    Yes, I just added my vote for another one of Marc’s 70% majorities. Keep the message goning Marc.
    I hope the delivered effect upon American women is this:

    YOU’RE NOT OPPRESSED!

  • donnieboy57

    the purpose of the votes is to track a clear increase of the voting each week which supports the position of increased viewership which increases ad billing which drives profit. thats ok as long we get some kind of message out that helps more than hinders. there is along way to go. india just elected a man hating shrew and hillary is probably next. rpr……are we having fun???

  • scottkirk

    marc..you should make some T shirts with the question..

    ARE THERE ANY BENEFITS FOR MEN IN MARRAIGE ANY MORE????
    with a picture of youreself…and underneath that
    NO NONSENSEMAN.COM

  • WLS

    While unfunny issues figure in the background, TV debates are calculated to attract viewers by being amusing to causal observors, and to accordingly please advertisers. Some useful consciousness raising follows, but it’s no substitute for actually engaging law- and policymaking—activities which you will not find discussed or encouraged on this blogsite. Most alarmingly you will sometimes even find them reported on disingenuously disinformingly, in deference to its entertainment and, for some, moneymaking aims.

  • Ed

    Jeez, you guys,

    For the record the long statistical study done by Sanford Braver which was on the web in total clearly showed Weil’s lies for what they are. Women clearly come out ahead financially in al,most all divorce cases, of course then theres the little factor that when a man loses his children, he really loses his life.

    All this bobble headed doll does is bobble from right to left while Marc is drilling her with facts. Maybe the disclaimer that this is “entertainment” works for some of the folks above but this is NOT entertainment. This is the problem. Lies that go on and on to become pseudo facts which are then used by fools like that moron Biden to fund the VAWA.

    Tahnx to Marc for having the guts to sit there and take the bobbling and the lies from this foolish woman, I know I couldn’t sit there week after week and listen to her lie. Even the shrew voice and squeaky demeanor is enough to make me uncomfortable.

    Anyway, I would underscore the point again this is not entertainment. These lies are what brought us to our knees. Infidel in the space above hits on a few of the lies perpetrated by the likes of this Wiel, she and Couric and Clinton are not kidding around, this isn’t funny.







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