Really now, how many of your rights have you had taken away? And I don’t mean theoretical rights, I mean actual police state tactics. You haven’t, and you’re a liar if you say you have (or you’re a radical muslim, but that’s a different story.)

You leftists keep harping about the police state, and yet no one takes you away. Even your buddies the aclu couldn’t prove they had been spied on. They had zero evidence at all. And even though they will lie, cheat and steal to get their way, they couldn’t prove anything . Their whole case was built on their “feelings” they’re being spied upon. The judge threw their “case” out (instead of, oh, say having them shot)

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Oh, Halo. brmerrick probably won’t answer you about that (besides, how could he? What could he say – the second plane was remote controlled? Or a Hollywood trick?). All leftist America-haters are cowards who throw bombs, but run and hide when confronted with anything difficult.

You didn’t respond to any of my comments, so how about responding to this one: We all saw the plane fly into the second tower. Unless we were all hypnotized by those evil Republicans, we saw what we saw. Explain that one Mr. Conspiracy Theorist.

If the money is “fake” why do you object to having it taken from you? What does the FBI webpage have to do with anything? What the hell is your point of truth here? So they don’t have OBL as the perpetrator on their webpage–what does this prove? It doesn’t prove anything, you may think it suggests something by which you can construct a conspiracy theory, but that is a conspiracy theory, not reality.

“I’m glad that you at least admit that we are in this for the next “50 years and beyond,” a statement that speaks volumes concerning the ruling elite’s true intentions.” The U.S. has not seen the magnitude and intent to mass murder of civilians until sometime in the 1980s. Please enlighten us on how the U.S. should be dealing with terrrorism or for that matter, murder, theft, fraud etc. You know, all those issues that have been waged since the beginning of time.

For the record, I don’t believe all politicians are honest, but in general, most government officials are decent people at about the same incidence as the population as a whole.

On a less strident note, I bet you are probably a nice guy and I am sure we share common ground, but I fear you are a bit misguided and influenced by ideas that have insufficient evidence to prove your point.

That is nothing in comparison to the destruction of our freedoms wrought by our WhiteHouse in reaction to alleged Muslim Terrorisim.

If they hate use because we are free then the Patriot Act was our surrender document.

I’m glad you learned a lot from DHS meetings. For the amount of fake money being shelled into a new government bureacracy (after it is taken by force from hard-working citizens), I would hope someone would learn something. Why don’t you spend some time with the Kovach article and read all the points carefully laid out?

It is quite possible that some or all of the facts laid out will eventually point in different directions. But they will never explain why the FBI to this day does not put responsibility for the 9/11 attacks on their bin Laden webpage.

I’m glad that you at least admit that we are in this for the next “50 years and beyond,” a statement that speaks volumes concerning the ruling elite’s true intentions.

Terrorism is a tactic waged since the beginning of time by many different types of people. It is also on the rise after the Iraq invasion, years after “Mission Accomplished.” Terrorism as an idea will never be defeated, just like the War on Drugs. There are other ways of dealing with it, and free people need honest government.

1. Rapid onset of “collapse”
It took a while for the jet fuel to sufficiently heat the steel, it most definitely wasn’t “rapid”. Even burning jet fuel can only get steel up to the bending point.

2. Sounds of explosions at ground floor – a full second prior to collapse (heard by hundreds of firemen and media reporters)
Really? A whole second? This is really stupid. Ever heard a huge steel beam snap? I’ll just bet it’s pretty loud.

3. Symmetrical “collapse” – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall speed — the columns gave no resistance
Yes they did. It just wasn’t enough to stop the enormous weight crashing into them. Each crash made the collapse of the next floor go a little faster.

4. Squibs, or “mistimed” explosions, at the upper 7 floors seen in the network videos
Ever heard of “air pressure”? Or maybe it was from expansion caused by the massive heat wave coming up the elevator shafts. Or any number of simple explanations that don’t involve conspiracy.

5. “Collapses” into its own footprint – with the steel skeleton broken up for shipment
So gravity pulled it straight down? How odd. And it was broken up for shipment? If that weren’t an really pathetic lie, it would be amazing. I’ve seen lots of smaller buildings demolished, and they weren’t “broken up for shipment”.

6. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
Too stupid to comment on.

7. Tons of molten Metal found by CDI (Demolition Contractor) in basement (no other possible source than an incendiary cutting charge such as Thermate)
I doubt this is true, and you haven’t shown evidence it is. First off, you show me proof this is true, not just made up by another nutjob.

8. Chemical signature of Thermate (high tech incendiary) found in slag, solidified molten metal, and dust samples by Physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.
Slag and dust, eh? Same as previous answer.

9. FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
Wow. Rust and compression. How did that happen? It must have been George Bush.

10. Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional
So they have morons like you in Europe? I would never have guessed.

The engines typically used on a commercial aircraft includes a rotor carrying a huge fan at the intake. This fan compresses air for two purposes: to feed the jet engine in the center and to pump the rest of the air, about 80% of it, through the bypass coke bottle for propulsion. The relatively small portion of the air sent into the jet engine provides the oxygen to combust the fuel, generating energy and expanding gas to blow through the turbine which spins the entire rotor.

That is the short and incomplete explanation of a typical engine as used on the 757. It is designed for subsonic and low transonic flight. When air is entering at supersonic speeds, and it is thicker air at low altitudes, it is possible for the fan to freeze in position or for the bearings to overheat and freeze.

When the rotor of a 757 engine freezes, its angular momentum is sufficient to 1) snap the wing off the aircraft; or 2) flip the entire aircraft around several times.
Therefore Boeing engineers (and McDonald Douglas and Airbus engineers) design the attachment of the engine to the wing spar to consist of several shear pins. These shear pins are designed to snap should the engine rotor freeze on its bearings. The engine falls off the plane, but with the other engine intact and both wings intact, the pilots have a chance to bring it to the ground for the kind of landing you can walk away from, a good landing.

So if an engine fell off the United 93 757, all that means is that its rotor may have frozen from the stresses of the power dive and the angular momentum sheared it off the wing, as it was designed to do.

Their web site is here, but I suspect that you’d have to get a back copy of the print edition to verify the statistic that I gave you from them.

http://www.westernstandard.ca/website/index.cfm

However, the same survey is discussed on the web here:

http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/21364.shtml

A quote:

“Fully 12% of Muslim Canadians polled by Environics said the alleged terrorist plot — that included kidnapping and beheading the prime minister and blowing up Parliament and the CBC — was justified.”

“Predictably, the CBC managed to find a talking head — in this case York University sociology professor Haideh Moghissi — who dismissed this disturbing revelation.”

“‘It’s really negligible that 12 percent feel that the attacks would be justified,’ said Moghissi. ‘I don’t think it even warrants attention.’

“Clearly, other news agencies and those who put the poll results on the CBC website agree with Moghissi.”

“But just how ‘negligible’ is 12% of 700,000 people?”

“… if this poll is accurate, 84,000 Canadian Muslims think it’s justifiable to behead our democratically elected prime minister and blow up the very symbol and centre of our democracy!”

The original article was in the Calgary Sun by Licia Corbella, Feb 18, 2007.

Do they think Americans are that dumbed down??

Who came up with the flight 93 story?? A think tank..or just some Idiot!!

The question for me Is when did media in this country become seamless entity’s under the dictates of CIA.??

who passed the policy that it’s O.K. to mislead the public…If they think the truth would hurt us??

They clearly thought that americans could’t handle the fact that flight 93 was shot down ( for a good reason..It was going to crash into the pentagon) by an american f-16!!
Who passed this media gag, and how long has it been in place??

It’s the same media that constantly publishes only women-as-victim..to keep men toiling to an early death with their heads down while there doing it!!

infidel, I am presently researching 911myths.com. Thank you as well.

Now perhaps you would all like to visit the FBI’s website, search for “bin laden,” and tell me where on that website I can see an indictment of this most wanted criminal with the attacks on 9/11, because the only thing they mention is the 1998 embassy bombings and “other terrorist attacks throughout the world.”:

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

And perhaps, after watching video of WTC 7 falling, you might like to consider the following from http://www.ae911truth.org/:

1. Rapid onset of “collapse”
2. Sounds of explosions at ground floor – a full second prior to collapse (heard by hundreds of firemen and media reporters)
3. Symmetrical “collapse” – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall speed — the columns gave no resistance
4. Squibs, or “mistimed” explosions, at the upper 7 floors seen in the network videos
5. “Collapses” into its own footprint – with the steel skeleton broken up for shipment
6. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
7. Tons of molten Metal found by CDI (Demolition Contractor) in basement (no other possible source than an incendiary cutting charge such as Thermate)
8. Chemical signature of Thermate (high tech incendiary) found in slag, solidified molten metal, and dust samples by Physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.
9. FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
10. Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional

And as far as Flight 93 is concerned, MensNewsDaily itself has been onboard with that one. That’s how it all started for me:

http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/k/kovach/2005/kovach091305.htm

From The Western Standard, p. 27, March 26, 2007.

“12 percent of Muslims surveyed … identified themselves as extremists supporting terrorism”.