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Never Leave Your Buddy?s Behind: Mike Gravel and the Gay Spartan Army

2007-08-10
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There’s a video that is several months old that has just now begun making the rounds, and it shows Democrat presidential candidate Mike Gravel (either that or Jason Robards has returned from the hereafter) answering a question on gays in the military with the following:

Clinton was dead wrong on that issue (don’t ask, don’t tell)…

…If you had any knowledge of ancient history, in Sparta, they encouraged homosexuality because they fight for the people they love, and if it’s your partner and you love him, you’re prepared to die for him. And that’s the same ethic you see in the military today — it’s not the country, it’s my partner.

Go see the movies on war, and it’s always the person next to me — who’s in my foxhole with me. Well I gotta tell ya, extend that a little further and you’ll see why the Spartans trained their people to be homosexuals. Because they were better fighters.

Man, why wasn’t this guy involved in last night’s Democrat debate on all-gay issues?

How exactly does one go about “training” somebody to be homosexual? This should anger a homosexual lobby that has spent the better part of their lives telling everybody they were just born that way.

Another thing that should rile gays is that Gravel seems to insinuate that they don’t want to serve for reasons of patriotism, but they’re just there to make sure that the tires on their mustache ride don’t get shot flat. Kind of insulting if you ask me.

Now, I’ve never been in the military, but I always figured that the reason it was a bad idea to have couples with an emotional attachment serving together was because you don’t carry out missions in pairs, but rather in groups. If you’re leading a group and have more of an attachment to one of those people than the rest, what are the chances this will cloud your decision-making process?

In the meantime, feel free to draw your own conclusions of what that brush on top of Spartan helmets was designed to be used for. I can only imagine that it tickled.

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  • Christopher Burchfield

    The above mail was submitted before editing was complete. Again, the reference to Corinthian homosexual units was taken from Will Durant’s “The Life of Greece.” The references to Spartan lovers are several, and derived from readings of ten to fifteen years ago. The suggestion was not to cast doubt on the courage and effectiveness of straight soldiers.

    Rather it was to prompt the Pentagan, which over the recent decades has shifted to the progressive left, to undertake the building of a “gay” battalion. Personally, in this day and age, I do not think it would be successful. Throwing a female battalion into combat would end in certain catastrophe. Still, these two groups should be an opportunity to fail.

  • Christopher Burchfield

    The reference to Corinthian homosexual units was taken from Will Durant’s
    “The Life of Greece.” The references to Spartan lovers are several, and derived from readings of ten to fifteen years ago. The suggestion was not to cast doubt on the courage and effectiveness of straight soldiers.

    Rather it was to prompt the Pentagan, which over the recent decades has shifted to the progressive left, to undertake the building of a “gay” battalion. Personally, I do not think it would be successful in combat. But leets get the qI am certain throwing a female battalion into combat would end in catastrophe. These two groups should be the chance to fail. With our passage into post modernism, there are a surfeit of planners at the Penatagon, who are incapable of learning

  • The Vicar

    Halo, again well said.

  • Halo

    Christopher Burchfield said,

    I’ve read about the effectiveness of Spartan and Corinthian homosexual lovers in battle and am inclined to believe it.

    Where did you read this? As tone281 said above, Plutarch didn’t mention this. He did talk about Spartans climbing the walls to sneak into their girlfriends rooms to have sex. Another thing he mentioned was their disdain for Greeks for having sex with boys. Which admittedly could mean an aversion to pedophilia, but taken with other of his writings, I believe it meant they were not homosexual. They did speak of their love for their fellow warriors, but that means nothing. You tend to have real emotions for the guy who’s got your back in battle.

  • Christopher Burchfield

    I’ve read about the effectiveness of Spartan and Corinthian homosexual lovers in battle and am inclined to believe it. We currently have a government whose main business is dabbling in social schemes. In the interest of forming a “Gay” Brigade” the Pentagon should adopt a policy of “Please ask, please tell.” Train the Brigade expertly, then allow them to set sail for Iraq where they will hopefully confirm the Greek experience.
    In the interest of gender equity an “Amazon Battalion” should also be formed. However, like most progressive programs this one may prove problematic. Women possess 62% of a man’s strength, and have a pain thresh hold 28% lower than same. In addition, almost without exception they decline employment within all the world’s most dangerous professions. Even in my great grandfather’s day it was so.
    In 1917 the Russian socialist leader, Alexander Kerensky, had trained what was designated “The Women’s Battalion of Death,” under the leadership of feminist general, Maria Bochkareva. In her diary the English nurse, Florence Farmborough–then serving on the Eastern front–wrote that when the women were ordered out of their trenches into a hail of German lead, some “did go ‘over the top.’ But not all of them. Some remained in the trenches, fainting and hysterical, others ran or crawled to the rear. Bachkarova retreated with her decimated battalion; she was wrathful, and heartbroken, but she had learnt (sic) a great truth: women are unfit to be soldiers.”
    This should be the final word regarding women in combat (zones). But in the world of postmodern America, where no lessons are ever learned, why not form our own “Woman’s Battalion.” The Pentagon could then parachute them into the mountains of Afghanistan, from whence their fortunes could be monitored.

  • The Vicar

    As if soldiers need a homosexual “lover” to fight for… what about wives, girlfriends, children and the rest of us?

    Gravel’s his name, gravel’s brains.

    By the way, great posts!

  • barkingdog

    So, the movie “300″ should be renamed “369″?
    Couldn’t resist. :)

  • Tone381

    Umm… does he mean the Theban sacred band that fought Alexander at the Battle of Chaeronea? I don’t recall Plutarch making much mention of homosexual Spartans.

  • amfortas

    Sparta was a matriarchy. Yes, the idea of all those tough, 5’2″ bare-arsed blokes humping away on the battlefield whilst waiting for the enemy to stop shitting themselves and do a bit of biffo overlooks the fact that it was a segregated society where women ran the finances, businesses, the markets and lived in the palaces, while the men lived in barracks. We are on the way!

  • ebjjs

    Yeah and he wrote a book called “jobs and more jobs”. Wonder if he meant “Blow Jobs”?.







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